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7 minutes ago, troph said:

I have nothing against you at all. So please don’t take this the wrong way. if she’s coming and going from Mexico to and from the US then y’all need to make plans for if she is detained / sent back. Who to call, how to inform you if you aren’t together. Make sure her phone is clean, etc etc. you really should be concerned. Hell I’m concerned for me and I am a white US citizen. 

I appreciate the advice, but both of us have been dealing with visas/consuls/paperwork/lawyers/CBP/border crossings/etc for 5 years. The idea that neither of us is aware of what's going on in the US right now is laughable. As I mentioned, she's here legally and is very careful about her behavior and social media. She hates politics and would never be involved in shit like this. 

Right now I'm a lot more worried about running into venomous snakes (likely) on our dog walks than I am about ICE and deportation (unlikely).

The rest of you can continue with the histrionics.

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Glad you are both aware, it’s not the same as the last 4 years so I hope what you’ve done this far is enough this go round. I hope she remains safe. Despite our political differences I wish no harm or heartache on anyone.

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1 minute ago, rage-a-holic said:

I appreciate the advice, but both of us have been dealing with visas/consuls/paperwork/lawyers/CBP/border crossings/etc for 5 years. The idea that neither of us is aware of what's going on in the US right now is laughable. As I mentioned, she's here legally and is very careful about her behavior and social media. She hates politics and would never be involved in shit like this. 

Right now I'm a lot more worried about running into venomous snakes (likely) on our dog walks than I am about ICE and deportation (unlikely).

The rest of you can continue with the histrionics.

There have been a few changes in the past six months that make your five years of experience completely meaningless.

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Boy, this shit sure knocked Elon saying Trump was in the Epstein files out of the national consciousness quickly.  Terrible writing, leaving all these dangling storylines unresolved.

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10 minutes ago, royiv said:

There have been a few changes in the past six months that make your five years of experience completely meaningless.

Oh for fucks sake. The last 5 years includes the past six months, which also includes the time she flew here from Mexico....last month.

All the "BuT YoU dOnT KnOw WhAt'S HaPpEnInG RiGhT NoW!" posts are funny though

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Posted
6 minutes ago, Cody2422 said:

There are two sides to every story and in the environment we live in today you will be fed the side of the story that enrages you and plays on your emotions.  

Umm what?

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Posted
2 minutes ago, royiv said:

I’m not nearly as nice as troph is. I’ll laugh my ass of when she gets detained knowing that you voted for it.

Good for you!

And I was living in Mexico during the last election and didn't vote, but keep throwing out more horseshit assumptions

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4 minutes ago, rage-a-holic said:

Good for you!

And I was living in Mexico during the last election and didn't vote, but keep throwing out more horseshit assumptions

Dude, we all know your politics. 

Posted
2 hours ago, Zepol87 said:

After hurricanes and shit yea I agree with you. What is the point of deploying them here? 

I'm not saying they should or shouldn't be deployed. I just had an issue with the way that statement was phrased. 

Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well, remember, these are Trumpco's fanciful interpretations of the laws and constitution that considerably err on the side of executive power.

 

And also recall that 1-2 months ago, in an interview, when asked directly if he was obligated to uphold the Constitution, he said: "I don't know."

Never mind that oath of office stuff.

 

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Posted
56 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

They can't deploy active-duty military in the manner he wants, so he has to go the National Guard route, something that many Presidents have done in the past.

You know I don't like the guy, but there is a huge difference between the National Guard and regular US Army soldiers or US Marines.

Is Trump trying to fuck around and see if he can get active duty troops deployed domestically and violate the Constitution?  I have no doubt he would like to, but at the end of the day, if he could pull it off, he would have went straight to the regulars and not the National Guard.

The last time the National Guard was federalized and deployed without the consent of a state’s governor was before you or I were born. So, yeah, this time it’s different.

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2 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Yeah man I know my history. 

When is the last time that an American civilian was killed by the national guard? Is it Kent State? Seems like a decent track record. 

Lol. During the BLM protests.

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I believe the last time the NG was federalized was during the '92 riots.

Then here:

On September 24, 1957, President Dwight D. Eisenhower federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard to ensure the safe entry of the Little Rock Nine to Little Rock Central High School the following day. Governor Orval Faubus had previously used members of the guard to deny the students entry to the school.[57][58]

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2 minutes ago, Rip76 said:

I believe the last time the NG was federalized was during the '92 riots.

Then here:

On September 24, 1957, President Dwight D. Eisenhower federalized the entire Arkansas National Guard to ensure the safe entry of the Little Rock Nine to Little Rock Central High School the following day. Governor Orval Faubus had previously used members of the guard to deny the students entry to the school.[57][58]

The 1990s was at the request of the CA governor at the time. The last time it happened without the consent of a governor was the 1960s.

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Posted
5 hours ago, Captainant said:

The unit's name is "79th Infantry Combat Brigade". They are trained warriors. You send them places you want to kill people.

 

There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people

The army is basically organized around the BCT, so any almost any time army units are deployed they will be elements of a BCT. 
 

That said, this is a clear provocation. The admin feels above water on immigration and knows that the military is popular.  He wants to have the image of protesters fighting uniforms. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, DaggerHorns said:

On June 1, 2020, David McAtee, a 53-year-old African-American man, was fatally shot by the Kentucky Army National Guard in Louisvilleduring nationwide protests following the murder of George Floyd and the killing of Breonna Taylor.[2][3]

Another below

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/oct/31/americans-killed-protests-political-unrest-acled

Thank you.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

I'm always going to fall on the nonfascist side. 

Funny how the people who identify with the party not in office always claim the nonfascist side.  I’ve been on this site for a long time and often ignore most everything that remotely resembles politics, but this falls into that category.  The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better.  Today, it’s trump deployed the national guard to put down rioting in Los Angeles, left reacts.  Years ago, it was Biden arresting the insurgents at the capitol, right reacts.  Think I’ve said this before, but this place is filled with some of the smartest dumb people I know -credit to bud kilmer

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Just now, Cody2422 said:

Funny how the people who identify with the party not in office always claim the nonfascist side.  I’ve been on this site for a long time and often ignore most everything that remotely resembles politics, but this falls into that category.  The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better.  Today, it’s trump deployed the national guard to put down rioting in Los Angeles, left reacts.  Years ago, it was Biden arresting the insurgents at the capitol, right reacts.  Think I’ve said this before, but this place is filled with some of the smartest dumb people I know -credit to bud kilmer

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3 minutes ago, Cody2422 said:

Funny how the people who identify with the party not in office always claim the nonfascist side.  I’ve been on this site for a long time and often ignore most everything that remotely resembles politics, but this falls into that category.  The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better.  Today, it’s trump deployed the national guard to put down rioting in Los Angeles, left reacts.  Years ago, it was Biden arresting the insurgents at the capitol, right reacts.  Think I’ve said this before, but this place is filled with some of the smartest dumb people I know -credit to bud kilmer

We also have some of the dumbest dumb people I know 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Cody2422 said:

Funny how the people who identify with the party not in office always claim the nonfascist side.  I’ve been on this site for a long time and often ignore most everything that remotely resembles politics, but this falls into that category.  The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better.  Today, it’s trump deployed the national guard to put down rioting in Los Angeles, left reacts.  Years ago, it was Biden arresting the insurgents at the capitol, right reacts.  Think I’ve said this before, but this place is filled with some of the smartest dumb people I know -credit to bud kilmer

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9 minutes ago, Cody2422 said:

Funny how the people who identify with the party not in office always claim the nonfascist side.  I’ve been on this site for a long time and often ignore most everything that remotely resembles politics, but this falls into that category.  The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better.  Today, it’s trump deployed the national guard to put down rioting in Los Angeles, left reacts.  Years ago, it was Biden arresting the insurgents at the capitol, right reacts.  Think I’ve said this before, but this place is filled with some of the smartest dumb people I know -credit to bud kilmer

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9 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

We also have some of the dumbest dumb people I know 

We have some people around here who should be whooping in their shit kickers and maroon fishing shirts 

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25 minutes ago, Cody2422 said:

The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better. 

Yep

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22 minutes ago, Scheiss Meister said:

Harming US citizens exercising their rights is not part of that duty for my or anyone else in the military.

No shit that was the idea that I took offense to to begin with. 

Read the thread. 

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20 minutes ago, ztejas said:

No shit that was the idea that I took offense to to begin with. 

Read the thread. 

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Did you forget how to read full sentences? It specifically is for US citizens. That is 100% what the military is for. Killing the enemy. 

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56 minutes ago, Cody2422 said:

Funny how the people who identify with the party not in office always claim the nonfascist side.  I’ve been on this site for a long time and often ignore most everything that remotely resembles politics, but this falls into that category.  The sooner everyone wakes up and realizes it’s all a fucking game to the republicans and democrats, congressmen and senators, governors to keep everyone in a frenzy, the better.  Today, it’s trump deployed the national guard to put down rioting in Los Angeles, left reacts.  Years ago, it was Biden arresting the insurgents at the capitol, right reacts.  Think I’ve said this before, but this place is filled with some of the smartest dumb people I know -credit to bud kilmer

Both things can be true are the same time. Thay what Trump is doing is wrong and that it is a game to Republicans and Democrats. But I have to say those two incidents are not comparable. 

And I kind of get the logic of "nothing matters, don't react to anything you are only playing into their hands" but I don't know. Soulless nihilism just isn't for me.

I have values, I have eyes and I have ears and I am going to see things and make judgements. Maybe the smart thing is to have no values and disbelieve everything I see and instead sit around in a nihilistic fog. But I need a little more convincing that is a good idea. 

I will say this, it sure seems like this protest was exactly what Trump wanted to trigger just so he could do this. He remembers the summer of 2020.

It's probably bad that these people fell for the trap. 

But the correct way to respond eludes me. Simply talking about the bad things Trump does doesn’t seem to produce good results either.

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Did you forget how to read full sentences? It specifically is for US citizens. That is 100% what the military is for. Killing the enemy. 

Okay well I guess we'll see how many people they gun down in the streets of Los Angeles. 

Posted
Just now, SubliminalHorn said:

There is a non zero chance that this occurs. That alone should be alarming 

Eh I'm not alarmed. I have enough on my plate to deal with already. 

Y'all are welcome to keep freaking out about it though. 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Luka said:

Yes. 

All of 40 people were detained and set to be deported. And that erupts into protests?

Sketchy. Somebody wants chaos. 

https://abcnews.go.com/US/protests-erupt-immigration-raids-los-angeles/story?id=122604723

 

 

 

My understanding is these people were reporting for routine immigration appointments and were then detained. Their friends and family got upset and that led to the protests. That is not particularly sketchy or illogical.

But there probably is more to it.

For sure this probably plays into Trump's hands. He was pretty eager to call in the troops.

Posted
7 minutes ago, ztejas said:

Eh I'm not alarmed. I have enough on my plate to deal with already. 

Y'all are welcome to keep freaking out about it though. 

Yeah no worries. Every week there is another disaster in this country.

 

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