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AUSTIN, Texas (AP) — Texas will require all public school classrooms to display the Ten Commandments under a new law that will make the state the nation’s largest to attempt to impose such a mandate.

Gov. Greg Abbott announced Saturday that he signed the bill, which is expected to draw a legal challenge from critics who consider it an unconstitutional violation of the separation of church and state.

A similar law in Louisiana was blocked when a federal appeals court ruled Friday that it was unconstitutional. Arkansas also has a similar law that has been challenged in federal court.

The Texas measure easily passed in the Republican-controlled state House and Senate in the legislative session that ended June 2.

“The focus of this bill is to look at what is historically important to our nation educationally and judicially,” Republican state representative Candy Noble, a co-sponsor of the bill, said when it passed the House.

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5 minutes ago, Captainant said:

“The focus of this bill is to look at what is historically important to our nation educationally and judicially,” Republican state representative Candy Noble, a co-sponsor of the bill, said when it passed the House.

Huh?

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Does anything happen if a student breaks one of the commandments? Say he or she takes the Lord's name in vain or bears false witness or covets their classmate's wife? If I was a smart ass teen assigned to Saturday school for absences I would complain that doing so would violate the 3rd commandment of keeping the Sabbath day holy. 

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I’m confused. How can the same people who support this also support our current president, who seemingly goes out of his way to break as many commandments as possible? If it doesn’t matter, as it seemingly doesn’t, then why have them anywhere at all?

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2 minutes ago, Samson's Wig said:

How did we get to the point where the dumbest motherfuckers among us control the vote? 

I've been asking this for the last 8 years, rinse and repeat. But if you and others want to joke about living in Iran and how shitty the USA is, wow. 

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9 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Does anything happen if a student breaks one of the commandments? Say he or she takes the Lord's name in vain or bears false witness or covets their classmate's wife? If I was a smart ass teen assigned to Saturday school for absences I would complain that doing so would violate the 3rd commandment of keeping the Sabbath day holy. 

One of my wife’s friends who teaches first grade is already prepared to tell her kids to ask mommy and daddy what adultery is, and what coveting thy neighbor’s wife is if the kids ask.  Gonna be some great conversations to be had at home.

Probably be a lot of teachers printing out a small copy and putting it with the bullshit on the walls that kids don’t pay attention to.

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8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I’m confused. How can the same people who support this also support our current president, who seemingly goes out of his way to break as many commandments as possible? If it doesn’t matter, as it seemingly doesn’t, then why have them anywhere at all?

These same people claim the government can’t educate kids and so they need to be sent to private schools instead, but now they claim the government should teach the most important topic of all.

I’ve had a few people I know cheering this on, and then I gently remind them that our Governor is a Catholic, and Catholics are the largest group in the state, and to be careful if they want more religion in the classrooms unless they like the new Pope. 

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Shit like this is why I’m never going back sans unexpected parental health issues. Fuck raising a kid in that mess, especially if it happens to be a girl.

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10 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Shit like this is why I’m never going back sans unexpected parental health issues. Fuck raising a kid in that mess, especially if it happens to be a girl.

As someone raising a beautiful baby girl in Texas, FUCK!

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Surly Remindme! [18 years] “to ask captainant for photos of his daughter”

 

I will be messaging you in 6 years on Monday, June 22, 2043 at 10:49:47 UTC to remind you to ask captainant for photos of his daughter and I will send you a PM to also be reminded and to reduce spam.

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2 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Shit like this is why I’m never going back sans unexpected parental health issues. Fuck raising a kid in that mess, especially if it happens to be a girl.

 

2 hours ago, Captainant said:

As someone raising a beautiful baby girl in Texas, FUCK!

Do ya’ll raise your children or just leave it up to the school?

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12 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

 

Do ya’ll raise your children or just leave it up to the school?

Why should the school display the Ten Commandments? Teach them at home instead of indoctrinating everyone else’s kids 

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3 hours ago, Deej said:

Well, Texas Republicans weren't going to make it law to post the Golden Rule in school classrooms. 

 

3 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

It would conflict with coveting thy neighbor’s wife.

Well then I guess it’s only fair that @Hank_Hill covets my wife. Best of luck to him. 

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18 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Well no, she's a 1 year old so she doesn't go to school. That said, I don't think public schools should be shoving christianity down everyone's throat and asserting its primacy as the "normal" state of things. 

There's been multiple supreme court cases over this that have always ruled it was a violation of the first amendment. This is a waste of yours and mine taxes and legislative session time.

Plus, schools should be a place for facts and critical thoughts. Not bible stories. That's SUNDAY school.

Agreed, then raise your children how you would like to raise them. Don’t leave it up to someone else.

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19 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Why should the school display the Ten Commandments? Teach them at home instead of indoctrinating everyone else’s kids 

Proof that school didn’t work for YOU.

What did I say about the Ten Commandments or indoctrinating everyone else kids?
 

Your reading comprehension is dogshit.

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34 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

 

Do ya’ll raise your children or just leave it up to the school?

 

3 minutes ago, DaggerHorns said:

Agreed, then raise your children how you would like to raise them. Don’t leave it up to someone else.

 

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Proof that school didn’t work for YOU.

What did I say about the Ten Commandments or indoctrinating everyone else kids?
 

Your reading comprehension is dogshit.

You are posting word salad. What are you actually trying to say?

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1 minute ago, DaggerHorns said:

Proof that school didn’t work for YOU.

What did I say about the Ten Commandments or indoctrinating everyone else kids?
 

Your reading comprehension is dogshit.

You're rhetorically saying "so what" in not addressing the topic and instead personally attacking posters. Which is probably why you're getting the response you're looking for

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I am a believer.  Prayer has never left the classroom as long as tests exist.

If you raise a child of faith.  Have some fucking faith.

both of those lines serve me well.

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Just now, Iceman said:

I am a believer.  Prayer has never left the classroom as long as tests exist.

If you raise a child of faith.  Have some fucking faith.

both of those lines serve me well.

Speaking of word salad.

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9 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're rhetorically saying "so what" in not addressing the topic and instead personally attacking posters. Which is probably why you're getting the response you're looking for

I never said “so what.” I asked a specific question. It’s cool that’s what you got out of it though…

5 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

Can someone translate these posts? I seriously want to know what the contention is.

I agree. I want to know too. I keep getting told I’m saying shit that I never mentioned.

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I'm sure the people who have no problem with this would be totally cool with passages from the Quran or the Seven Tenets of Satanism adorning an elementary school classroom.

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2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Infrastructure and basic government functionality is woke.

Anything I don't like, or that is liked by people that are a color or religion that I didn't like, is woke! 

Didn't you get that memo? It's delivered, in person, by people wearing red hats.

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58 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're rhetorically saying "so what" in not addressing the topic and instead personally attacking posters. Which is probably why you're getting the response you're looking for

Posts vague word salad about raising your kids at home on a thread about the Ten Commandments in schools and then attacks people for misinterpreting his word salad.

dumbass 

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

“The focus of this bill is to look at what is historically important to our nation educationally and judicially,” Republican state representative Candy Noble, a co-sponsor of the bill, said when it passed the House.

Is there any factual basis for this statement, particularly the judicial part?

Because it's my understanding most of the legal framework of the Western legal tradition was built on a foundation laid out by the Roman Empire. Moreover, the Ten Commandments were largely derived from Assyrian oral traditions and the Code of Hammurabi. What makes the Ten Commandments a little innovative is that it simplified a bunch of shit into for rules.

What I think would be okay with everyone is just posting the Golden Rule because, you know, it boils downs to a single, easy-to-learn concept: "Don't be a dick." That's kind of universal truth among just about every religious or secular group. Plus, it comes fully endorsed by the Geezus.

You know what's really ironic, though, is that forcing the Ten Commandments to be posted in every classroom is totally a dick move.

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I gently remind them that our Governor is a Catholic, and Catholics are the largest group in the state, and to be careful if they want more religion in the classrooms unless they like the new Pope. 

You’ve been saying this shit for years yet they only get more brazen.

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2 minutes ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You’ve been saying this shit for years yet they only get more brazen.

It still surprises people, particularly the Southern Baptists in the family.  They all assume out governor is one of them.  They’d be surprised if they looked up his wife.  They think it’ll work out fine for them.

Texas is soft-banning porn and forcing religion down on our throats, but personal freedoms and all that..

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Wait… why is he/she asking folks if they raise their kids or rely on the school system but ignores the main critique of this thread. Is there some weird logic I’m missing?

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5 hours ago, pacman said:

Did this topic just lose a SC decision in Louisiana?

It was the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, which is the intermediate federal appellate court.
 

Still plenty of time for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn over forty plus years of precedent and tell us what the Constitution has actually said all this time. 

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11 minutes ago, YChang said:

Wait… why is he/she asking folks if they raise their kids or rely on the school system but ignores the main critique of this thread. Is there some weird logic I’m missing?

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13 minutes ago, Rudiger said:

It was the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit, which is the intermediate federal appellate court.
 

Still plenty of time for the U.S. Supreme Court to overturn over forty plus years of precedent and tell us what the Constitution has actually said all this time. 

Generally speaking, the 5th Circuit is a bit right of Alito and Thomas.

That particular panel, though, was on the liberal end of things.

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27 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

It still surprises people, particularly the Southern Baptists in the family.  They all assume out governor is one of them.  They’d be surprised if they looked up his wife.  They think it’ll work out fine for them.

Texas is soft-banning porn and forcing religion down on our throats, but personal freedoms and all that..

Seems to be working out just fine for them.

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1 hour ago, Fudge Nuggets said:

You’ve been saying this shit for years yet they only get more brazen.

The flaw in his reasoning is an assumption that religious members of MAGA retain any fidelity to their church. Their faith resides in the MAGA movement and anything that is a contradiction to MAGA is discarded. Catholic, Protestant and weird non-denominational offshoots don't matter, only the overarching cult matters.

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