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9 hours ago, Texas Fight said:

Are you imagining that or do you have specific quotes from specific people?

Jesus fuck, dude. Are you serious with this shit? Quotes? We fucking lived it, you fucking moron.

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15 minutes ago, Redneck Mutha said:

Hey we kept the drag queens out of story time and built 3 miles of wall to protect our kids against the brown people trying to make a living. What more do you want? 

Coulda been worse. Why have you not thanked us?

While they were worried about brown people that posed no threat to them Zeus said "hold my fucking beer"

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1 minute ago, Michael Knight said:

Texas really needs to improve its efficiency, maybe next time they can give these kids measles before drowning them

If they knew the kids were going to die they would have vaccinated them the day before so they could scream "vaccine deaths!"

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1 hour ago, Hagbard Celine said:

uh oh

this is the same kerr county stuff from yesterday but dramatically expanded

in addition to refusing free sirens paid for with obama money, they turned down free biden money in 21

https://www.reddit.com/r/TexasPolitics/comments/1ltnjf8/we_have_floods_all_the_time_and_small_town/

welp, just in case the regime hacks reddit i'm going to go ahead and copypasta the content

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We have floods all the time and small town politics
Discussion

Edit/ ** Additional information provided from redditor comments below***

I also want to point out that a man named John Cornyn is referenced by Rob Kelly in connection with ARPA funds. The only lawyer named John Cornyn I’ve been able to identify in the state of Texas is the current senior U.S. Senator. Additionally, just last year—on July 25th, 2024—Rob Kelly requested that Governor Abbott declare a state of emergency for Kerr County due to severe storms and flooding.

u/throwawayatxaway added additional context to the timeline of these discussions. The Wimberly flood in 2015 killed several people. Wimberly is approximately 80 miles east of Kerrville.

Pen-cap provided an additional conversation that occured prior to the point where I started this and frankly it is damning.

Commissioners' Court Regular Session 06/27/16

COMMISSIONER BALDWIN:  You know we had a baby flood a couple weeks ago, a month or so, whatever it was.  And I keep hearing these reports of the old, old system, and I know we're not going to deal with that though.  Expect that to be gone where the Jones call the Smiths, and the Smiths call Camp Rio Vista, and Rio Vista blah, blah, blah, along down the line.  But it's still there and it still works.  The thought of our beautiful Kerr County having these damn sirens going off in the middle of night, I'm going to have to start drinking again to put up with y'all.

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  I think -- I think this and that's what the committee is going to look at and how to do it.  I think the going in position is that we don't need to change anything, and is there a need to improve what we have.  And if there's a need to improve how much is improved.  And what the options for doing that and what it would cost.  And I think the first thing to do is say why change anything.  It worked this long and maybe we don't need to do a thing.  And then it gets into the thing we talk about earlier today, and that's risk mitigation.  And you know there's still people drowned and you know --

COMMISSIONER BALDWIN:  And I hope you ask the question like who are we notifying, or who are we trying to get the message to?  Are they these crazy people from Houston that build homes right down on the water?

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  Well, I think the thing is you say it's for the general public and the crazy people from wherever they are, from Houston, okay, and then the camps, and then how do you get the message out to those, that's all part of it, so it's a pretty complex project.

COMMISSIONER BALDWIN:  I'm sure it is.

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  And the question is do we need to do anything.  And what do we want to do and what can we afford.

MRS. STEBBINS:  Commissioner Moser, will you put it on the next agenda for discussion after you have this meeting on Thursday?

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  Oh, absolutely, right.

MRS. STEBBINS:  Okay, thank you.

JUDGE POLLARD:  I would comment that we don't hardly have any crazy people that live here.  The few that we do have we handle them through CSU.

COMMISSIONER BALDWIN:  Or they serve on this board.

JUDGE POLLARD:  I'm just trying to keep us out of trouble here, okay.  The media's still here.  All right.  Any other reports?

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In 2016 Kerr County contracted for an engineering study on their current warning system and were told it was antiquated and inadequate. 

Commissioners' Court Regular Session 8/22/16

COMMISSIONER MOSER: We had at our steering committee meeting we invited also TxDOT to participate in that.  So the original engineer, and both of them as a matter of fact showed up at that meeting.  Their assessment was what existed today, and the Sheriff may want to comment on it, is antiquated and it's not reliable.  So we said okay with that, you know,  not just that, but we thought that there was a pretty ill-defined system that we have.  So the engineering study we thought would be appropriate.  If the result of the engineering study says that -- recommends that we enhance the system, okay, buying additional sensors, kind of like Comal County did.  Comal County spent a little over three hundred thousand dollars, where they had add 8 locations to monitor the rate of rise of the river and streams.

COMMISSIONER REEVES: And while I agree with Commissioner Letz, that if we have a system that's not working, we need to certainly look at that, technology is great, but still one of the best things, and you may disagree with me is the people up river calling. Because you're probably going to get a call.  I've received just this year from calls before it's even had time for a warning to go off, I'm getting texts from Divide Fire Chief, and I think -- where'd the Sheriff go?  I sent you a text the other night, you may have got it too from him, but we're knowing probably before, and  I know with one flood that we had earlier in the year, by the time you got the warnings going off, it had been too late.  Because it was coming out of just some draws that took too long to get downstream.

COMMISSIONER BALDWIN: I have one.  I'm going to vote no because of numerous reasons.  I think this whole thing is a little extravagant for Kerr County, and I see the word sirens and all that stuff in here.  And of course, you say that these are steps that will be taken through the years.  But that's where you're headed, there's no question in my mind that's where you're headed.  And you're determined to do that. But step one of taking these funds out of special projects, out of Road and Bridge, that ticks me off a little bit.

 Commissioners' Court Regular Session 10/24/16

Mr. Hewitt: Sirens did not seem to get very much support.  The thought was that sirens are better for tourists than local residents.  The sirens would only be beneficial for someone that's not familiar with the area, and wouldn't know what to do.

The second part of the study contained recommendations for updating the system and sirens were purposely left out even though other areas had implemented them.

Regular Commissioners' Court Agenda 01/09/17

Comal County has implemented a river guage and siren system that includes New Braunfels, Guadalupe County and the Water-Oriented Recreation District (WORD) as funding partners. When gauge heights reach a certain level, emergency management personnel are notified and the siren is automatically activated. Emergency personnel can also activiate the sirens remotely if they know flood water is headed downstream. The data from each gauge, including river height and rainfall, is avaiable online for anyone, including residents, to access.

The filed for federal assistance via a Hazard Mitigation Grant for 976k.

Commissioners' Court Regular Session 01/09/17 Discussing the recommended warning system

COMMISSIONER MOSER: The cost of that whole thing is going to be like 976 thousand dollars.  That's a lot of money.  All of it, and the reason we're here today and moving so quickly is that there is a FEMA grant that's available until as long as we apply by January the 20th.

JUDGE POLLARD:  Which is when President Obama goes out of office.

(Laughter.)

JUDGE POLLARD:  Well, the reason I mention that is because he authorized this particular thing, and it's going to --

MS. KIRBY:  It's a coincidence.

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  Going on the record with that it's a coincidence.  And so there has to be a presidential declaration of disaster to be able to have these kinds of funds available.  So it goes away just so happens to be when he leaves office.

 COMMISSIONER MOSER:    So we've talked about, you know one of the things we said sirens and we said we don't want sirens, too many many people said they did not want sirens when they had these -- when we had these gatherings.  Code Red, and I don't know if Dub wants to chime in on this, but Code Red is the same that's going to get information to a lot of people; not to everybody, okay.  One of the things that we'll do is identify a point of contact in all of  the camps, we won't communicate with everybody in the camp, but we have a point of contact at the camp so that they can disseminate people within -- to people within the camp, like during the summer when kids are there, or to RV parks.  Now, if the RV parks want to have a siren themself when something goes up that's up to them. That's not part of our thing.  So getting the information to the public is the end item of this whole thing. The first thing is sense a flood, then communicate that information to the local authorities, to the right authorities, and then for them to have a system by with which to disseminate the information to the public.

SHERIFF HIERHOLZER:   The only thing I have to remind people, unfortunately, I guess I'm one of the ones that – Harley maybe has been around here to see some very devastating floods and quite a bit of loss of life.  No matter what we do it's going to be up to the public, okay.  The notification is great.  I think the -- just the markers, the posts at the crossing is one thing, but it actually oughta state that at that level that your car may wash off, get people's attention at that crossing.  The only other thing is, and as Bob can attest to, most of the time it has been informal where we call people.  Unfortunately, the time we had the most devastating one down on the east end of the County down at the camps, I was working that night, spent 72 hours pulling kids out of fences.  But we call people, we called camps, they made the decision that they thought they could beat that ride, and then that no matter what we do and no matter what we install there's going to be loss of life.  It's educating people. 

COMMISSIONER REEVES:  And I will say and, Sheriff, you can correct me if I'm off base on this, the camps have had a very good system of letting down river if there's a rise, they're phoning their competitors or colleagues down river and letting them know what happened.  It's informal as you said, but it's been a very good system to let them know over time.

SHERIFF HIERHOLZER:  Right.  The camps and they do, they notify each other, we notify them, they notify -- there's a lot of informal things that really do work real well.  It's not totally those unless they try to get them out too quick in trying to beat it. Because this river can come up in a instant, we all know that with the drainage.  But it will go down just as quick if they just hold tight with what they've got. But the whole key is just getting people that are traveling up here from somewhere --

 COMMISSIONER REEVES:  That's my concern is ones that don't live here.

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  That's everybody's concern.

JUDGE POLLARD:  So this is kind of an offer, or to see if it's accepted by and also agreed to by UGRA and the City.

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  Correct.

JUDGE POLLARD:  And if they don't then where are we with this?

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  If they don't then we just forget the whole project.

 JUDGE POLLARD:  Just dead in the water.

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  Dead in the water, right.  It's dead in the water.

COMMISSIONER REEVES:  Question --

COMMISSIONER MOSER:  Or the pun for the Flood Warning System.

JUDGE POLLARD:  Dead in the water.

After failing to secure a grant, they continued to kick the can down the road.

2021 rolls around and they have over 5 mil in ARPA funds in their bank and wind up with a grand total of over 10 mil. 

Commissioners' Court Regular Session 10/25/21 discussion of communication systems

COMMISSIONER LETZ:  Well, I think that's  good. I just think that -- you know, I'd like to get an idea of what the Sheriff's radar systems are going to cost.  I mean I just don't want to send -- go out and get public input on something and then us just not be able to follow up because we have a priority that's different and we have additional information.

 JUDGE KELLY:  Well, but let me just explain. What all of these are intentioned to do is to initiate the education system.  We need to get the Court educated.  We need to get the public educated.  Everybody knows that we have over $5 million sitting in our bank account that the Federal Government sent us for these ARPA funds.  And they're not really grants, they're funds.

MRS. LAVENDER:  And as the Judge said, there's a huge category.  There's a bunch of things that you can spend the money or -- or secure the money to spend.  And when we use the term grant, grant is not really what this is. It's just funding that's been made available through this American Rescue Plan Act.  It doesn't require a match.  It doesn't require, you know, that kind of structure.  But it does have strings attached.  It's not  free money.

COMMISSIONER LETZ:  And that's my concern, Judge.  My concern is that from my understanding what  the -- well, I won't say LCRA because I know what their number is.  The number from the Sheriff's Department, the number from internal communications, we're already over 5 million dollars, so I don't want to go out to the public requesting -- we have no money to do it.

 COMMISSIONER BELEW:  Well, at least we make  the determination that that's the first --

COMMISSIONER LETZ:  Right.  But --

COMMISSIONER BELEW:  Then it's done.  But we  haven't made that determination.

COMMISSIONER LETZ:  That's why I think we need to get discuss that phase.  We need to get those  numbers -- I mean, my opinion is law enforcement and the internal communications are the number one and two.  I'm not sure which order.  Probably law enforcement first. And -- and I haven't heard the rest of the Court say what their top two priorities are but --

COMMISSIONER HARRIS:  Well, that's mine.  Because not only does it cover that, it -- the Sheriff's office, communications, getting it up to speed, and also the Volunteer Fire Departments and making sure that we can communicate with other counties. As we saw last winter, I mean, communications is one of our biggest weaknesses and there's the Sheriff up.  I'm sure he'll back me up on  that.  Communications was a problem.  Go ahead, Sheriff.

SHERIFF LEITHA:  Yeah, I kind of agree with Jonathan, if you go that direction.  Now, we had a  meeting, did attend with LCRA, a very good meeting, just preliminary.  Preliminary, I'm looking at $3 million for just me.  That's just us and -- the Sheriff's Office. That's not including we have the constables, we have Animal Control, we have the fire department.  There's a whole bunch of stuff that needs to be checked into.  Are we going to provide radios or not.  But I can tell you, I mean, it kind of shocked me.  But that was three million right off the  bat.  And -- and that's not even going into all the other agencies.  Are we going to supply those radios, they're very expensive, to all the fire departments or not.  So this is something we really need to look into, if we want to go that direction with the new infrastructure.  Also, visiting with the Chief on a daily basis, you know, that's kind of the direction they're going.  I've requested to be on the same radio system they are.  Only because the fire department dispatch is out of the County.  But the radio system will be very  expensive.

COMMISSIONER BELEW:  And -- but if we upgrade, we will also be able to communicate with the surrounding counties.

SHERIFF LEITHA:  Yes.  We will be.  And it's a very big project.  You know, something that's going to take some time.  Very costly.  And there's a lot of questions, you know.  We're opening a can of worms, you  know.  We discussed we really need the volunteer fire department input.  We've already gotten some kickback --I mean some -- some -- you know, and that's why I didn't open this can of worms. It's going to be a long, drawn out process, you know, to do this.  It can be done.  But like I said, it's very costly.  Something I can say like Don asked me, I mean, in the long run in the five year we can save money.  We pay over $300,000 a year in tower leases.  So there is going to be some savings down the line, just to let you know.

And they still don't update their flood warning system.

The people also didn't want to spend any of the ARPA money because it was tied to the Biden administration. Even the Judge suggests just holding on to the money so that it can’t be sent to states that don’t share their same values. And now we have 10s of people who have died and many might have lived if the county had updated their flood warning system and installed flood sirens along the river like the multiple counties/towns around them did. 

Commissioners' Court Regular Session 11/08/21

Resident: Are you accountable to anyone for how you spend it?  Or is it a, kind of, a reward and shows your support for this particular program? It's not free money.  Being present as we  talk.  How do we know this?  Immediately.  Unless you want it on the COVID lies and vaccination pressure, you have to send it back.  Those are heavy strings.  And those are strings. The deep state harangue and vilified President Trump for calling COVID for what it was and then suggest responses that were non-draconian, and then when Biden took office, the leftist government took its gloves off.  It has lied and lied more about this COVID -- about COVID. 

The temptation is great, you're accountable, and we would like to know where your allegiance is.

Resident 2: And I'm here to ask this Court today to send this money back to the Biden administration, which I consider to be the most criminal treasonous communist government ever to hold the White House.  And Kerr County should not be accepting anything from these people.  They're currently facilitating an invasion of our border, and we're going to support these people?  So that's what I have to say.  Thank you.

Resident: I happen to know that there is no such thing as free money.  It's never government-funded; it's tax-payer funded.  So they're taking our money and they're putting strings attached to it and then they're giving it back to us.  And they're going to get their foot in the door in this county.  We don't want their  money.  I feel like the people have spoken and I stand with the people.  Thank you for your time.

COMMISSIONER BELEW:  We have money in the bank, $5.1 million, that was sent to Kerr County.

JUDGE KELLY:  We didn't ask for it.  They sent it.

COMMISSIONER BELEW:  They sent it.

MS. DEWELL:  Exactly.

COMMISSIONER BELEW:  The money is in the bank right now.  Hasn't been spent.  In the event that you don't spend it, you send it back.  That's part of the Treasury's rules on it.  If you do spend it, whatever percentage, there would be no expense to the  taxpayers in Kerr County.  It would all come out of that account, no matter what you do with it.

JUDGE KELLY:  And GrantWorks has been very helpful in -- in getting us focused on what colors between the lines and what doesn't.  As of last Thursday, when I got a call from Bonnie White telling me about this -- the problem that y'all were going to present at the meeting, I went and got on the telephone to their Senior Vice President from GrantWorks.  And there -- there are discussions that they want to have with us and so we want to sit down and listen to them. And we want -- we want you to hear them, too.  Because you're the public.  But we -- we need to know and get very comfortable with where we are with this grant before we start taking that money.  And the claw back was the first thing. As far as where that money sits for the next year or two, my old law partner John Cornyn tells me that if we send it back it's going to New Jersey or it's going to New York or it's going to --

MRS. LAVENDER:  Or California.

 JUDGE KELLY:  -- or California.  And so I don't know if I'd rather be the custodian of the money  until we decide what we have to do with it rather than giving it back to the government to spend it on values that we in Kerr County don't agree with.  So --

COMMISSIONER BELEW:  And any spending of it would have to be done in Commissioners' Court so you'll be able to see it and know it.

They eventually signed a 7.5 mil contract with Motorola in 2022 for a county emergency communications system. The system would provide 95% radio coverage to firefighters, EMS and law enforcement. 

But hey at least the USGR has had developing a flood warning system on their Strategic Plan doc since 2022 which they kept rolling to the next year plan.

USGR Strategic Plan 2025

B-2. Work with local partners to develop Kerr County flood warning system 

• In January 2017, UGRA partnered with Kerr County in a FEMA flood warning implementation grant request for $980,000. The project was not selected for funding and most of the funds went to communities impacted by Hurricane Harvey. 

• In FY18 the USGS installed a high intensity precipitation gauge at the streamflow site on the Guadalupe in Hunt included in the agreement with UGRA. 

• During the previous reporting period, a pre application for a county wide flood warning system was submitted to the Texas Water Development Board Flood Infrastructure Fund. The project was invited to submit a complete application, but UGRA declined due to the low (5%) match offered through the grant. 

• UGRA participated in the update to the Kerr County Hazard Mitigation Action Plan which addresses hazards including flooding. The final plan was submitted to FEMA in April 2025. 

• During this reporting period, UGRA requested bids for a flood warning dashboard that combines multiple sources of data into one tool. The project will also recommend future improvements to monitoring equipment related to flood warning. Information from this dashboard will be used by UGRA staff and local emergency coordinators and decision makers. A contractor for this project was selected in April 2025.

 

 

try that in a small town?  Oh wait....

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19 minutes ago, Hmbre97 said:

It's crazy to read his background, then go back and re-read his comments from those meetings and think that a guy that has had the career he did was completely cool with continuing to rely on a game of telephone as your warning system to prevent loss of life. 

It's fascinating  infuriating

Reads like a classic NIMBY to me. He was worried about being bothered by sirens going off at all hours of the night. The dude must've been damn near 80 when he was serving as a county commissioner. How loud would the sirens have to be for him to be annoyed by them?

 

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1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

That Kerr co. commissioner Moser from 2016 sounds like a grade A fucktard. I hope he's still alive & is wracked with grief & pain over the consequences of his decisions.

I hope he fucking drowned in the flood. 

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1 hour ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

That Kerr co. commissioner Moser from 2016 sounds like a grade A fucktard. I hope he's still alive & is wracked with grief & pain over the consequences of his decisions.

He is, and he's not. You know, god's will and all that. "Perhaps we should have done more"

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The community was not in favor of having sirens located in a lot of locations,” said Tom Moser, a former Kerr County Commissioner who served from 2012 to 2021.

 

“Sirens, you know, can go off unintentionally, accidentally,” Moser said of the community feedback. “And that was not desirable on the part of some people.”

Meeting minutes from 2017 show that because “too many people said they did not want sirens,” county commissioners decided to not include them in a $980,000 federal grant proposal, which requested more flood gauges and sensors to monitor high-water crossings along the Guadalupe River. Moser said ultimately, the grant proposal was not approved, and the sparsely-populated Kerr County struggled to fund a major flood warning system in subsequent years.

“In hindsight, could we have done more, perhaps so,” Moser said. “Should we, you know, perhaps so.”

https://www.khou.com/article/news/state/texas-news/texas-flood/kerr-county-emergency-siren/285-d4480a4f-731a-4651-9afa-0f0561c9990c

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1 hour ago, Ted Lange said:

REUTERS Ted Cruz say: is not the time for finger pointing USA TODAY Texas Sen. Ted Cruz condemns partisan finger-pointing after deadly flooding Advertisement Republican Sen. Ted Cruz says it's not time for political finger-pointing after deadly floods in Texas killed at least 80 people.

 

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Ted Cruz v @tedcruz Follow Leftist policies made the California wildfires much worse. . Democrats supported: X Dumping fresh water into the ocean to save a breed of smelt fish X Prioritizing DEl over fire prevention X Prohibiting good forest management practices NEWSMAX GOP WORKS TO UNIFY BEHIND TRUMP'S SWEEPING RECONCILIATION PACKAGE = II. 3:19 LIVE 30TT THREATENS TEXAS A&M ON DEI FORUM ... LA TIMES OWNER:

Now is not the time for finger pointing...

Unless you're on the right and can immediately pinpoint blame on DEI, drag queens, Joe Biden, black people, immigrants, Antifa, "Demonrats" and "libtards" for every major event and disaster.

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8 hours ago, chainsaw said:

I'm supposed to be mad about a non-deployment decision from June 2 that might have improved rescue operations on June 4? How long does it actually take to bring out swift boats from Austin to Kerr County? Wouldn't Baker needed to have known, ahead of time, exactly where along the Guadalupe to send those boats? Is that even possible? And if he'd done that and the rain bomb had landed in the City of Austin how would Baker explain that the swift boats were several counties away?

I'm sorry I just don't understand the accusation here.

8 hours ago, TreatyOak said:

I do not understand the accusation either. Just sharing it for info. Perhaps this is the result of an ongoing feud. 

8 hours ago, Judge Roybeanbag said:

I could argue that they may have been needed here given the loss of life in northern/northwest Travis County and Burnet County.

8 hours ago, Redneck Mutha said:

Can't recall which presser the other day (ATC, Wilco, Burnet) that mentioned they had sent a team to Kerr but then at some point had to recall them once things started getting sideways back home.

I got a little irritated that they would send people at all given the threat in their home jurisdiction and then after bringing them back, expecting them to be full strength to do their jobs here. Can't imagine the physical and mental toll those guys went through.

8 hours ago, crash_davis said:

I'm sure they were pissed thinking they could've helped. Maybe some are even pissed they missed their hero moment. Whatever. It was a prudent decision to keep them here because of the threat of that shit happening here in Austin.

Whoever agreed to publish that has their hearts in the right place. Their heads are unfortunately somewhere else.

I'm sure there are many more posts that I could quote on this topic. And yeah, even as a member of that union local and a retired Austin ff, I don't understand the accusation ... but tbf, I stopped keeping up with AFD shit the second I walked out the CTECC doors after my retirement party 3 years ago. Never looked back. DGAF. And yeah, the writer of that posting (yes, I know them, and no, I'm not naming names) writes some pretty cringy shit.

My uninformed guess based on past experience is that this is probably based on previous relations with said chief. Emergency resource management is not quite as simple as "They need it, so let's send it. Right now!", and they know that.

ETA: Maybe something good will come from his documentation that the State knew ahead of time and was mobilizing well in advance of the storm. Maybe there's some method to the author's madness after all.

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43 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Damn, these people are stupid.

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Susan Deininger is an awful, crazy bitch.  She suggested in that meeting that the schools in Kerr County were receiving $100k for each class that was vaccinated.

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Crazy idea, but the state could work with county and city officials to identify problems and create solutions. The state could provide expertise and fund a portion of expense. Local leaders could pick up a share of the expense and monitor the maintenance of equipment and the education of residents. Schools go through many varied drills each year to prepare for a variety of emergencies… summer camps should have the same requirements.

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You would need governments focused on governing instead of theatre and power with citizens who weren't satisfied with that status quo.

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20 minutes ago, Woland said:

Crazy idea, but the state could work with county and city officials to identify problems and create solutions. The state could provide expertise and fund a portion of expense. Local leaders could pick up a share of the expense and monitor the maintenance of equipment and the education of residents. Schools go through many varied drills each year to prepare for a variety of emergencies… summer camps should have the same requirements.

fuck that ice cube GIF

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you likely recognize cnn's chief investigative reporter pam brown

her dad was governor of kentucky

her mom was phyllis george, miss america 1971

pam just broke down live reporting from kerrville

only olds will remember george was one of the first women to hold a national sports tv job

george was born in denton and went to unt and tcu

so the texas connection explains pam's breakdown because she's a mystic alum

 

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4 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

why must they lie about everything ?

 

It's worked so well for them, why would they stop now?

It's the same question my buddy always asks about COTA. The answer is the same.

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2 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

kerrville city officials are claiming they received no warnings or alerts

They only had TRUTHSOCIAL on their phones

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8 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

pam just broke down live reporting from kerrville

only olds will remember george was one of the first women to hold a national sports tv job

george was born in denton and went to unt and tcu

so the texas connection explains pam's breakdown because she's a mystic alum

I saw that.  She was talking about parents getting letters from their deceased girls.  Oof, that was a gut-punch.

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There really is no limit to how stupid people are. A few years back, we had flooding across Bee Cave Rd at the low water crossing in Rollingwood. Water was pouring across the road and moving fast. Police had blocked off the road with a roadblock and flashing lights, and were making people turn around. A couple of cars in front of me, a man was begging the police to let him drive through it. I was imagining what he was saying: “I’ve got to pick up my dry cleaning.” The cops told him to back up and turn the fuck around. Unbelievable. 

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It’s hard for me to hold parents responsible for not looking deeper into the flood safety procedures of these camps, when just five days ago I made a reservation on the Blanco River in an RV park and never once thought about the flood risk. 

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2 hours ago, speed817 said:

Always reactive, never proactive....

 

 

Hey Dan - why don’t we look at the different rivers in Texas and see where sirens could save lives in addition to the Guadalupe? It only takes over 100 dead for Dan to do the absolute fucking minimum.

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1 minute ago, Dbeasy said:

It’s hard for me to hold parents responsible for not looking deeper into the flood safety procedures of these camps, when just five days ago I made a reservation on the Blanco River in an RV park and never once thought about the flood risk. 

I don’t mean it to hold parents responsible. They are not. But moving forward I don’t see how anyone could send their kids there. Plus in the best of situation it is teenage camp counselors helping some of these kids. 

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1 hour ago, Woland said:

Crazy idea, but the state could work with county and city officials to identify problems and create solutions. The state could provide expertise and fund a portion of expense. Local leaders could pick up a share of the expense and monitor the maintenance of equipment and the education of residents. Schools go through many varied drills each year to prepare for a variety of emergencies… summer camps should have the same requirements.

Carve out a few dollars for them to design cool cosplay uniforms for each department and they may come to the table to work together.

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2 hours ago, speed817 said:

Always reactive, never proactive....

 

 

Look, this fucking douche canoe can eat multiple Cerberus dicks on the reg…. But if this actually goes down then I’ll lock hands with this jagoff to ensure that this doesn’t happen again.

i don’t want anyone ever to experience the pain and the suffering of this weekend ever again.
There should never be another human being swept away in theme sleep by a flash flood.

im still so angry and numb all at the same time. 

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4 hours ago, Captainant said:

They literally had >$5M dropped into one of their accounts and they refused to spend it because it was from the Federal Government and they would do a COVID on them. I'm not fucking kidding

 They eventually signed a $7.5M contract with Motorola for emergecny comms which just serve fire fighters, cops, and EMS.

 

I made the mistake of opening the link to the transcript of the public comments.   Makes you want to throw your hands up and quit.

i made it through about 10 peoples input, here is an example, they are all just as bad or worse.


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2 hours ago, Woland said:

Crazy idea, but the state could work with county and city officials to identify problems and create solutions. The state could provide expertise and fund a portion of expense. Local leaders could pick up a share of the expense and monitor the maintenance of equipment and the education of residents. Schools go through many varied drills each year to prepare for a variety of emergencies… summer camps should have the same requirements.

So, basically the way government in general should work.

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cnn has been reporting that "kerryville" applied for a fema grant in '16 and didn't get iit

my read of the posted minutes does not jive with this

am i wrong?  did i miss this in another source other than the reddit link i posted earlier?

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11 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

cnn has been reporting that "kerryville" applied for a fema grant in '16 and didn't get iit

my read of the posted minutes does not jive with this

am i wrong?  did i miss this in another source other than the reddit link i posted earlier?

Which show are you hearing this on?

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34 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I made the mistake of opening the link to the transcript of the public comments.   Makes you want to throw your hands up and quit.

i made it through about 10 peoples input, here is an example, they are all just as bad or worse.


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175 Beaver Road, Ingram TX you say.....

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That dude is like 1000 ft from the Guadalupe. 

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34 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

I made the mistake of opening the link to the transcript of the public comments.   Makes you want to throw your hands up and quit.

i made it through about 10 peoples input, here is an example, they are all just as bad or worse.


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Mr Wade is likely dead from diabetes or rural suicide. Fuck him and anyone clapping for him, and any other fucking republican in existence. 

these pieces of shit will murder, rape, and plunder the entirety of this state without a care in the world then blame black Mexican Jew commie dems. May they all feel the dread and guilt from this event and eat a fucking bullet.  I don’t fucking care anymore, they can go fuck.

fuck.

end drunken rant 1, please turn tape over for drunken rant 2 

 

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