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Posted
9 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

i'm not for them, but their data insists upon itself

within this decade if georgia continues to win double digits and if corn continues to suck....

then georgia's position on the ap rankings chart is going to move their bubble ahead of corn then they will be in the top 8 in all 4 categories

ctj says there are 8 trueblues

if there are only 8 trueblues what is the formula?

ap charts?

total wins?

winning percentage?

what about ap titles?

usc are #6 in the ap rankings bubbles, #5 in AP titles and #7 in win %

are they out?

all of the ties and number of games played distorts a lot of this data

example: Texas has played 65 more games than usc even though usc started playing in 1888 and we started in 1893

wins and win % starting in 1936 would be interesting to see........

here's the chart listed by wins but with the other metrics added

                              wins        win%     ap bubbles    ap titles

1        Michigan      1012      0.733          top 8             3
2        Ohio State    978        0.735          top 8             9
3        Alabama       974        0.733          top 8             12
4        Notre Dame 962        0.732          top 8             8
5        Texas             961        0.704          top 8             3
6        Oklahoma     950        0.723          top 8             7


7        Penn State     943        0.691     NOT TOP 8        2
8        Nebraska       924        0.677      last top 8          4


9        Georgia         892        0.667     NOT TOP 8         3 
10      USC               882        0.694          top 8             5


11      Tennessee      875        0.67      NOT TOP 12       2

12      LSU                815        0.645

 

postulate: the number of trueblues, at this time, is either 6 or 10

 

Select as many variables as you want, then flatten the data to two dimensions with PCA and use something like k-means to cluster the schools around centroids. I suspect the result will look a lot like the AP overall vs. AP top 5 graph

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For the top-ranking dominance, here is the top 5 vs top 2 plot. Again, very good overlap with 21 teams being in at least one top 20 list. Texas A&M and Washington drop out and Army joins as the #20 in top 2 and #23 in top 5 (they are #60 in top 25). The top 3 really stand out here and the 5 of the remaining top 8 (blue bloods) are close to more recent top teams such as Miami and FSU.

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Posted
11 hours ago, closetojumping said:

-Texas

-OU

-Nebraska

-Alabama

-Ohio State

-Michigan

-Notre Dame

-USC

I don’t remember the methodology or criteria and I am not convicted about this list changing or not.

The criteria seem to be the top one or two in conference.  Tennessee is the historic SEC#2 and should be on that list.  The Vols were down for so long that many younger fans believed that UF or UGA had always been the 2nd best team.  

I get naming only one BB from the PAC and SWC since there was a logjam at the #2 slot.  But the SEC only has one!?

Posted (edited)

Consensus AAs is a pretty good one. Pitt punches above its weight. 

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I'm looking at some of the draft picks stuff - like first rounders and total selections - but can't find consensus numbers anywhere. Not sure why.

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Posted
2 hours ago, notre dame joe said:

The criteria seem to be the top one or two in conference.  Tennessee is the historic SEC#2 and should be on that list.  The Vols were down for so long that many younger fans believed that UF or UGA had always been the 2nd best team.  

I get naming only one BB from the PAC and SWC since there was a logjam at the #2 slot.  But the SEC only has one!?

Tennessee just isn't that strong on a bunch of historic metrics. And the 2000s haven't been kind to them in general.

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