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Here's a Tarp article assessing the LB room. The long and short of this one is that they don't a single complete LB. They have 4 guys that they think can play and then 3 other guys who have never played, one RS Freshman and two true Freshmen. The 4th LB, Jordan Lockhart, ran amok against McNeese State last year and has otherwise done nothing. Depth is a problem at LB for ATM this season. Without the same talent on the DL, injury risk increases and more plays will need to be made. 

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Quick thoughts on Texas A&M's LB room in fall camp

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    The starters in Texas A&M's linebacker corps are givens with Mike backer Taurean York and Will backer Scooby Williams. The duo complements each other well with York being more of a B gap to B gap player and Williams able to work up and down the line of scrimmage. More importantly, they can slip or beat blocks from the inside and take people down for losses.

    There is no question that the third backer is Daymion Sanford who is athletic and can move well laterally. He is better equipped as a pass defender than a run stuffer. Sanford has played the Will with Williams filling in at the Mike when York leaves the field.

    The Aggies have wanted to find a fourth guy and more of a Mike whose strong suit is playing off blocks and stacking ball carriers up at contact. Right now, that fourth guy appears to be second year player Jordan Lockhart who is built more like a guy who can be aligned in the A gap more often than not. Lockhart had an interception in the Maroon & White Game ranging near the sidelines to follow his assignment and move in on a Marcel Reed throw. Overall, his drops and reactions to run action, flowing to the right gap have been good. He has been a physical guy with a motor that runs hot in closer quarters and is better suited scraping and filling. Most of all, he can complement Sanford both on early downs as well as passing downs.

     

    The rest of the group is still a work in progress to an extent. Tristan Jernigan is more of a Will. The freshmen in the room, Noah Mikhail and Kelvion Riggins, are active players who can cover ground and be physical when they arrive at the point of contact. They'll get up the field, hit gaps, and convert speed to power. They can leverage bigger blockers by playing north-south while the offensive linemen haven't gotten going yet or have their shoulders turned too east-west. Both are fast enough to drop and then move laterally to cover possible targets in the passing game. All three of them will play special teams.

    The key for them will be to get help not just from the defensive line but the secondary as well. At least one defensive back will have to fill a gap as well as them to make the run defense go and the backers as a group will have to get closer to Sanford's level as pass defenders.

 

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8 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

If you, as a defender, think Marcel Reed is good enough to contend for the Heisman, that says a lot about you as a player.

And it ain't good.

Arch needs to throw all day to Bryce’s area of the field.

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The mental gymnastics Pate does in this is truly astounding. My favorite piece is him calling Casius Howell potentially one of the best edge players in the country after a 3rd team all MAC season in 2023.

 

 

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19 minutes ago, Vertigo said:

The mental gymnastics Pate does in this is truly astounding. My favorite piece is him calling Casius Howell potentially one of the best edge players in the country after a 3rd team all MAC season in 2023.

 

 

Well Josh, lets pull of the receipts shall we...

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So... you lost to all but 1 ranked team you played and dropped 4 out of 5 to end the season if we include the loss to  9th place B1G team USC who needed the W to break 500 on the season. The soul victory being New Mexico State at home. 

And Josh before you start waving your Tiger flag around end of season is how you measure a team. 

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A champion is measure on how they finish. You wanna call 8-5 winning, well shit Josh, I gotta bullshit.

That said, I absolutely support your propaganda regarding the upcoming season. Get them on the roller-coaster!

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Just now, billfromlaketravis said:

Looch was a groomsman at his wedding. What does that tell you? 

Ah. Explains a lot. I don’t care enough about Pate’s (or anyone on TV doing football bullshit) personal life 

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34 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

Well Josh, lets pull of the receipts shall we...

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So... you lost to all but 1 ranked team you played and dropped 4 out of 5 to end the season if we include the loss to  9th place B1G team USC who needed the W to break 500 on the season. The soul victory being New Mexico State at home. 

And Josh before you start waving your Tiger flag around end of season is how you measure a team. 

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A champion is measure on how they finish. You wanna call 8-5 winning, well shit Josh, I gotta bullshit.

That said, I absolutely support your propaganda regarding the upcoming season. Get them on the roller-coaster!

I like how he says 'some will say I'm in the bag for a&m'. Well if your weekly spots on texags and Billy being in your wedding isn't giving those vibes out, you certainly are far too close to the situation to look at it objectively.  

The Texas A&M was one win away from the conference championship game line is sooo tiresome. They lost 4 of last 5. They may or may not have lost a couple of other games because the opposing coach did absolutely no preparation for the correct quarterback (LSU when Reed came in and Missouri not expecting Weigman to start).

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I’ve been assuming that he’s paid to do it. We know that the ATM AD pays Texags over $1M per year because they’ve had to disclose it. I’m guessing they’re paying others. There is simply no way multiple outlets are this stupid in the same exact way. It’s not like Pate comes about his conclusions differently than Texags or other ATM rags, ever. It’s the same shit every cycle and yet he’s not an aggie. He’s getting paid. 

The Liucci model.  Charge Aggies to tell them what they want to hear.  Got to respect that.  It’s a sin to let suckers keep their money.  

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6 minutes ago, Frank Drebin said:

The Liucci model.  Charge Aggies to tell them what they want to hear.  Got to respect that.  It’s a sin to let suckers keep their money.  

When is aggie gonna get my boy Graham on the god damn gravy train. He's more than towing the line and uses big words to sound smart. 

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1 minute ago, BurntEyes said:

When is aggie gonna get my boy Graham on the god damn gravy train. He's more than toeing s the line and uses big words to sound smart. 

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What’s holding Graham back is that he looks like Pat

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Just now, BurntEyes said:

Dude Billy ain't no ladies man either and at least Graham ain't sportin' the chin beard.

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Billy has been there since the beginning and he got Ozempicfied. Also has the Johnny Football credibility 

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2 hours ago, Vertigo said:

The mental gymnastics Pate does in this is truly astounding. My favorite piece is him calling Casius Howell potentially one of the best edge players in the country after a 3rd team all MAC season in 2023.

 

 

Pate, just like D Pollack, is looking for aggy click bait for social media numbers.

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50 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Billy has been there since the beginning and he got Ozempicfied. Also has the Johnny Football credibility 

Billy lost a bunch of weight a few years ago.  He found a bunch of it last year from what it appeared on his podcast a few months ago. 

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2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

So... you lost to all but 1 ranked team you played and dropped 4 out of 5 to end the season if we include the loss to  9th place B1G team USC who needed the W to break 500 on the season. The soul victory being New Mexico State at home. 

*sole

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In regard to ATM’s 2025 schedule, they play 5 true road games. This is an issue that has received very little discussion. ATM has been atrocious on the road for a very, very long time. Here is a link to a Texags thread with the usual ignorance, abject stupidity and trope-huffing that discusses their OOC road futility and attempts to rationalize it. One guy, “Mac94” comes along and rationally lays out actual facts while still aggiefying part of his subjective review. I’ve spoilered his data review posts below. 

Highlights:

-ATM has played exactly 4 true P4 road games over the last 20 seasons. Read that again if you’d like. 0-4 in those games. (I’m not counting a non-P4 SMU in 2014, nor should you)

-Since 1995, they are 0-8 against then P4 teams on the road. If you include Utah, Pitt, and SMU, although I’m not sure why you would, that record “improves” to 2-9. 

-Including bowls and fake P4 teams, from 1995 forward, ATM is 13-26, 11-25 otherwise.  

-Predictably, several goobers try to p-hack and pine for the golden years of Jackie Sherrill and just remove late Slocum and Fran-tastic seasons altogether. The Mac94 guy comes along and reveals that the Sherrill years provided a 7-13 road/bowl P4 record. 

-Culturally, ATM is a program in a bubble. People can claim that the right coach will come along and fix it. Maybe. I’m not buying it. They’re a historically bad road team for a program perennially opening nearly every season ranked in the top 25. 

-My view is that ATM goes 1-4 on the road this season. 0-5 wouldn’t and shouldn’t surprise anyone. 

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3553009

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10:56a, 8/14/25 
 
Lets see (OOC Power 4 games away from Kyle):
1995 L @ Colorado 21-29
1995 W vs Michigan (Alamo Bowl) 22-20
1997 L vs UCLA (Cotton Bowl) 23-29
1998 L vs FSU (New Jersey) 14-23
1998 L vs Ohio St. (Sugar Bowl) 14-24
1999 L Penn St (Alamo Bowl) 0-24
2000 L @ Notre Dame 10-24
2000 L vs Mississippi St. (Independence Bowl) 41-43
2001 W vs TCU (Gallery Furniture Bowl) 28-9
2002 W @ Pitt 14-12
2003 L @ Virginia Tech 19-35
2004 L @ Utah 21-41
2004 L vs Tennessee (Cotton Bowl) 7-38
2005 L @ Clemson 24-25
2006 L vs Cal (Holiday Bowl) 10-45
2007 L @ Miami 17-34
2007 L vs Penn St (Alamo Bowl) 17-24
2009 L vs Arkansas (Arlington) 19-47
2010 L vs Arkansas (Arlington) 17-24
2010 L vs LSU (Cotton Bowl) 24-41
2011 L vs Arkansas (Arlington) 38-42
2011 W vs Northwestern (Texas Bowl) 33-22
2012 W vs Oklahoma (Cotton Bowl) 41-13
2013 W vs Duke (Chick-fil-A Bowl) 52-48
2014 W @ SMU 58-6
2014 W vs W Virginia (Liberty Bowl) 45.37
2015 W vs Arizona St. (Houston) 38-17
2015 L vs Louisville (Music City Bowl) 21-27
2016 L vs Kansas St. (Texas Bowl) 28-33
2017 L @ UCLA 44-45
2017 L vs Wake Forest (Belk Bowl) 52-55
2018 W vs N.C. St. (Gator Bowl) 52-13
2019 L @ Clemson 10-24
2019 W vs Oklahoma St. (Texas Bowl) 24-21
2020 W vs N. Carolina (Orange Bowl) 41-27
2021 W vs Colorado (Denver) 10-7
2023 L @ Miami 33-48
2023 L vs Oklahoma St. (Texas Bowl) 23-31
2024 L vs USC (Vegas Bowl) 31-35

So looking at current power 4 teams that we played OOC either in bowls, neutral site, or true road games we are 13-26 since 1994. Very few of those were true road games but in those we are 2-9 against current P4 schools ... but SMU, Utah, nor Pitt were P4/5 at the time we played them so excluding those we'd be 0-8
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Looking at things since Jackie was hired ... we have:

1985 L @ Alabama 10-23
1985 W vs Auburn (Cotton) 36-16
1986 L @ LSU 17-35
1986 L vs Ohio St. (Cotton) 12-28
1987 W vs Notre Dame (Cotton) 35-10
1988 L Vs Nebraska (New Jersey) 14-23
1988 L @ LSU 0-27
1988 L @ Oklahoma St. 15-52
1989 L @ Washington 6-19
1989 L vs Pitt (Sun Bowl) 28-31
1990 L @ LSU 8-17
1990 W vs BYU (Holiday) 65-14
1991 L vs Florida St (Cotton) 2-10
1992 W vs Stanford (Anaheim) 10-7
1992 W @ LSU 31-22
1992 W @ Missouri 26-13
1992 L vs Notre Dame (Cotton) 3-28
1993 L @ Oklahoma 14-44
1993 L vs Notre Dame 21-24
1994 W @ LSU 18-13

Using the "glory era" of the SWC we were 7-13 against current P4 schools and 3-7 in true road games.

 

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24 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

In regard to ATM’s 2025 schedule, they play 5 true road games. This is an issue that has received very little discussion. ATM has been atrocious on the road for a very, very long time. Here is a link to a Texags thread with the usual ignorance, abject stupidity and trope-huffing that discusses their OOC road futility and attempts to rationalize it. One guy, “Mac94” comes along and rationally lays out actual facts while still aggiefying part of his subjective review. I’ve spoilered his data review posts below. 

Highlights:

-ATM has played exactly 4 true P4 road games over the last 20 seasons. Read that again if you’d like. 0-4 in those games. (I’m not counting a non-P4 SMU in 2014, nor should you)

-Since 1995, they are 0-8 against then P4 teams on the road. If you include Utah, Pitt, and SMU, although I’m not sure why you would, that record “improves” to 2-9. 

-Including bowls and fake P4 teams, from 1995 forward, ATM is 13-26, 11-25 otherwise.  

-Predictably, several goobers try to p-hack and pine for the golden years of Jackie Sherrill and just remove late Slocum and Fran-tastic seasons altogether. The Mac94 guy comes along and reveals that the Sherrill years provided a 7-13 road/bowl P4 record. 

-Culturally, ATM is a program in a bubble. People can claim that the right coach will come along and fix it. Maybe. I’m not buying it. They’re a historically bad road team for a program perennially opening nearly every season ranked in the top 25. 

-My view is that ATM goes 1-4 on the road this season. 0-5 wouldn’t and shouldn’t surprise anyone. 

https://texags.com/forums/5/topics/3553009

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10:56a, 8/14/25 
 
Lets see (OOC Power 4 games away from Kyle):
1995 L @ Colorado 21-29
1995 W vs Michigan (Alamo Bowl) 22-20
1997 L vs UCLA (Cotton Bowl) 23-29
1998 L vs FSU (New Jersey) 14-23
1998 L vs Ohio St. (Sugar Bowl) 14-24
1999 L Penn St (Alamo Bowl) 0-24
2000 L @ Notre Dame 10-24
2000 L vs Mississippi St. (Independence Bowl) 41-43
2001 W vs TCU (Gallery Furniture Bowl) 28-9
2002 W @ Pitt 14-12
2003 L @ Virginia Tech 19-35
2004 L @ Utah 21-41
2004 L vs Tennessee (Cotton Bowl) 7-38
2005 L @ Clemson 24-25
2006 L vs Cal (Holiday Bowl) 10-45
2007 L @ Miami 17-34
2007 L vs Penn St (Alamo Bowl) 17-24
2009 L vs Arkansas (Arlington) 19-47
2010 L vs Arkansas (Arlington) 17-24
2010 L vs LSU (Cotton Bowl) 24-41
2011 L vs Arkansas (Arlington) 38-42
2011 W vs Northwestern (Texas Bowl) 33-22
2012 W vs Oklahoma (Cotton Bowl) 41-13
2013 W vs Duke (Chick-fil-A Bowl) 52-48
2014 W @ SMU 58-6
2014 W vs W Virginia (Liberty Bowl) 45.37
2015 W vs Arizona St. (Houston) 38-17
2015 L vs Louisville (Music City Bowl) 21-27
2016 L vs Kansas St. (Texas Bowl) 28-33
2017 L @ UCLA 44-45
2017 L vs Wake Forest (Belk Bowl) 52-55
2018 W vs N.C. St. (Gator Bowl) 52-13
2019 L @ Clemson 10-24
2019 W vs Oklahoma St. (Texas Bowl) 24-21
2020 W vs N. Carolina (Orange Bowl) 41-27
2021 W vs Colorado (Denver) 10-7
2023 L @ Miami 33-48
2023 L vs Oklahoma St. (Texas Bowl) 23-31
2024 L vs USC (Vegas Bowl) 31-35

So looking at current power 4 teams that we played OOC either in bowls, neutral site, or true road games we are 13-26 since 1994. Very few of those were true road games but in those we are 2-9 against current P4 schools ... but SMU, Utah, nor Pitt were P4/5 at the time we played them so excluding those we'd be 0-8
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Looking at things since Jackie was hired ... we have:

1985 L @ Alabama 10-23
1985 W vs Auburn (Cotton) 36-16
1986 L @ LSU 17-35
1986 L vs Ohio St. (Cotton) 12-28
1987 W vs Notre Dame (Cotton) 35-10
1988 L Vs Nebraska (New Jersey) 14-23
1988 L @ LSU 0-27
1988 L @ Oklahoma St. 15-52
1989 L @ Washington 6-19
1989 L vs Pitt (Sun Bowl) 28-31
1990 L @ LSU 8-17
1990 W vs BYU (Holiday) 65-14
1991 L vs Florida St (Cotton) 2-10
1992 W vs Stanford (Anaheim) 10-7
1992 W @ LSU 31-22
1992 W @ Missouri 26-13
1992 L vs Notre Dame (Cotton) 3-28
1993 L @ Oklahoma 14-44
1993 L vs Notre Dame 21-24
1994 W @ LSU 18-13

Using the "glory era" of the SWC we were 7-13 against current P4 schools and 3-7 in true road games.

 

Trust the Elk.  Instead of spending his time working on his diet and exercising, he’s been in the film room studying.  And eating triple cheeseburgers. Don’t let his 4x moo moo fool you.  The man has been working hard. 

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Another post on that thread pulls the inevitable but still hilarious maneuver of claiming hypothetical wins:

 

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If Texas had agreed to maintain the series, we would have won in Austin multiple times...
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The best part is them pointing out they’ve only played like 4 true P5 road games in the last decade 20 years or whatever the time frame is.  Yeah.  That’s kind of the point.  Your average 8-4 unranked season is still misleading given the pussy non conference the Ags normally play.  They are so close to getting it when they make that point. 

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