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5 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Interdasting that it was pulled down....so maybe closer to the truth?

Well, we know it's gotta be above 5,000 easily.  It had to already be in the thousands back on March 2nd, when the Russians released those original numbers.

And every active convoy that is hit, and every time we read about Russians getting pushed back, that's plenty of Russian dead.

 

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Just now, atomheartbevo said:

Well, we know it's gotta be above 5,000 easily.  It had to already be in the thousands back on March 2nd, when the Russians released those original numbers.

And every active convoy that is hit, and every time we read about Russians getting pushed back, that's plenty of Russian dead.

 

Yep.  Around 10K seems reasonable for casualty numbers at this point with many more not out of the question.  

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46 minutes ago, ATexanAbroad said:

I made a good friend from Ukraine, who was Azov, and is in Ukraine right now fighting. Posts some cool shit on his insstagram. Was laying mine from his drone the other day. Is fighting with his former Azov buddies in Kyiv. I sent him some money for some equipment to help and his birthday is on the 26th, so he has a beef stew MRE to celebrate.

Those are some bad dudes and they fucking hate Russians. When I first met him he made me cheer shots to anti russian phrases in Ukrainian. 

Link to Instagram if he wants some surly followers..

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43 minutes ago, Superhero said:

Other side of the story from Snack's preferred news source - Financial Times:

It's not all puppy dogs and unicorns for the Ukrainian forces.

https://amp.ft.com/content/0be1bc1a-6a9e-4ae0-b7d2-1d31018f14ca

 

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Military briefing: Russian losses mask Ukraine’s vulnerabilities


Putin’s forces may move to an attritional phase as dearth of information dogs assessment of Kyiv’s capabilities

 

Victory was supposed to be swift. Instead, the invasion began badly. The Russians massively underestimated resistance and soon found their positions and supply lines harried by an elusive opponent.

But in the end, after months of grinding warfare, Russia won the “winter war” against Finland in 1940 — an attritional campaign that analysts warned could be a template for how the war in Ukraine ends. 

The outcome is still far from certain more than three weeks after Russia launched its campaign, said a growing number of western defence officials. While Ukrainian successes have stalled Russia’s advance, US and UK military chiefs have been largely silent on Kyiv’s military problems. 

It is a major question that dogs assessments of the battle for Ukraine, given the dearth of information surrounding Ukraine’s own rate of attrition. 

In addition although Russia’s military has fared poorly its forces are regrouping and there is little sign that President Vladimir Putin is scaling back his strategic objectives.

“The winter war is a very interesting analogy. The Russians did badly but they secured a very favourable peace by their ability to counter-escalate and sustain attrition,” said Sidharth Kaushal, a military analyst at the UK’s Royal United Services Institute.

He added: “We have to remember that there are some pretty significant challenges the Ukrainians face.” 

As Thierry Burkhard, France’s chief of the defence staff, warned in an interview in Le Monde this month, Russia’s forces may yet “steamroller” Ukrainian resistance. 

Kyiv says it has lost 1,300 troops compared with an estimated 7,000 killed, wounded or imprisoned for Russia, according to US estimates. But western officials and analysts said the Ukrainian losses were likely far higher: most agreed that an equivalent loss rate to Russia was plausible, equating to about 10 per cent of Ukraine’s troops. 

Hundreds of Ukrainian tanks and vehicles have also been destroyed, said one Nato official. “I can tell you that western arms supplies to Ukraine are absolutely critical at this point,” he said. “Without them I think we’d be in a very different place, notwithstanding the incredible heroism from the Ukrainians.” 

Even the current level of supply may be insufficient. 

“Senior [Ukrainian] officials have told me that supplies of anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons have slowed to a trickle and stocks are running low,” said Paul Grod, head of the Ukrainian World Congress, an NGO. “This needs to be addressed as soon as possible — otherwise Ukrainian fighters will be confronting Russian tanks with just machine guns.”

Recent air strikes have hit the Antonov aircraft works and Artem arms factory near Kyiv and an aircraft repair plant near Lviv, indicating that Russia intends to cripple Ukraine’s munitions manufacturing capacity. 

So far, Ukraine’s information dominance has masked its losses: thousands of open-source images of exploded Russian armour have been taken by Ukrainian civilians, who are unlikely to post similar pictures of their own side’s losses. This has led to a natural bias in the online content being scrutinised by many analysts. 

Russian troops, meanwhile, have had their mobile phones confiscated by commanders — a lesson from its covert invasion of Crimea in 2014, and intended to give Russia greater control over information. Instead, it left a vacuum that was filled by Ukrainian content.

Moscow is also hamstrung by its domestic need to maintain the fiction that the war is a limited “special operation”, meaning it cannot pump out images of Ukrainian losses on TV that might indicate otherwise. 

The Kremlin has nevertheless repeatedly insisted its operations are going to plan. “I have seen no evidence that its overall intent has changed,” said one western defence official.

In the south, Russia has had some success. Heavy Ukrainian losses were sustained as Russian forces over-ran positions defending the land bridge from Crimea. On flat, open terrain Russian battlegroups have also been able to deploy and advance more easily. At least one brigade of Ukrainian marines — the 36th naval infantry brigade — is now trapped defending the besieged city of Mariupol.

For Russian forces in the east and the north — where logistical problems have been most acute, because supplies come from depots in Belarus via narrow, vulnerable roads, not rail — there are signs of regrouping. 

This has been aided by increased use of drones in the past week, according to one western military official. Dozens are now flying over Ukraine and being used to hit targets and provide intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance capabilities to Russian battlegroups. 

Nor is there any sign that Russia is scaling back its plans, despite supply problems.

“They have not determined that they need to move to a defensive position, which is the first thing they would do if they are truly worried about supplies,” said Kusti Salm, permanent secretary at Estonian defence’s ministry. “Until that happens, the Russian meat grinder will keep grinding.”

Moscow is also seeking to replenish its forces with troops from Russia’s east and foreign fighters. On April 1 the current draft of conscripts end service and they may face pressure to sign up as regulars, which would allow for their continued deployment. 

“By mid-April we could see the resumption of large-scale Russian military operations,” said Gustav Gressel, an analyst of Russia’s military at the European Council on Foreign Relations. “Of course Putin has to think carefully about domestic opinion, but in theory this is a force of 100,000 or so he can draw on.” 

Perhaps Ukraine’s biggest tactical vulnerability is its Joint Forces Operation (JFO), where the bulk of Ukraine’s military assets are deployed just west of Donetsk and Luhansk. Russia is seeking to encircle the Ukrainian troops, western officials said, cutting them off from Kyiv and drawing them into open combined-arms combat which plays to Russian battlegroups’ superiority. 

Crushing Ukraine’s forces in such a way would be as much of a victory as capturing Kyiv, some analysts said, invoking Clausewitz, the military theorist who saw the destruction of armies rather than the capture of cities as the fastest route to victory.

Regardless, few believe the fight in Ukraine will end soon. 

“Even under the best case assumptions, this will be a war with many operational pauses,” said Rusi’s Kaushal: “A war of fits and starts that will probably drag on for a long time.” 

 

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27 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

This is what happens when you get wrapped around the energy axle of a foreign power with less than good intentions

 

Historically speaking that hasn’t been a major issue for the Germans.(I say as someone with a very German last name that pops up in uncomfortable spots in history books) Can’t speak to the Hungarians 

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34 minutes ago, Superhero said:

So dumb question ahead…

Will Putin nuke Europe if NATO knocked out Belarusian units when/if they cross into Ukraine?

They aren’t Russians after all, and who knows if Putin even gives a shit about them. 

 

27 minutes ago, ClubWhatever said:

What makes you think NATO would do that?

This.  NATO shouldn't do that, and I don't think it will.  It will stay the course: supply Ukraine with intel, "eyes in the sky," and weapons to take on the enemy.  And one suspects it would be happy hunting against a not very competent and not enthusiastic enemy army.  Frankly, deploying the Belarussian military to this war could end up being the biggest miscalculation yet, if it actually happens.  That same army may just end up turning around, driving back to Minsk, and pointing the barrels of their tanks at Lukashenko.

20 minutes ago, Not a cat said:

I wouldn't be surprised if fetal alcohol syndrome is a huge problem among the conscripts.  

I know it's a throwaway remark, but don't discount it.  The effects of incredibly high levels of alcohol abuse are a real thing in Russia.

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1 minute ago, BabaYaga said:

Yep.  Around 10K seems reasonable for casualty numbers at this point with many more not out of the question.  

Yeah.  9,861 Russian KIAs and 16,153 WIAs.

When you consider that the Russians are not going to be able to quickly get their WIAs to field hospitals, and given that their field hospitals are probably shit and overcrowded to begin with, I could easily see plenty of those KIAs having been WIAs that didn't make it to a hospital in time.

https://warontherocks.com/2018/10/how-long-can-the-u-s-militarys-golden-hour-last/

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Treating and then returning military personnel to duty — which has always been a primary mission of any military medical corps — maintains force strength. Moreover, knowing that they will be cared for and have a high chance of survival if injured boosts service members’ morale and will to fight. In a 2017 survey of West Point cadets conducted via the Modern War Institute, over 80 percent of respondents expressed confidence in the military’s ability to care for injured soldiers. This confidence also enables recruitment and maintenance of a robust all-volunteer force.

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In the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the U.S. military medicine achieved the highest rate of survival from battlefield injuries in history. The wounded-to-killed ratio has more than doubled, from 4:1 during last century’s world wars, to 10:1 today. Substantial credit for this achievement goes to a tireless focus on getting wounded warfighters lifesaving care within 60 minutes of injury — a timespan that is referred to as the “golden hour.”

 

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11 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

The United States needs to announce a comprehensive program for Russians willing to defect. Target officers, soldiers, and people with technical skills or working in key industries. 

Do you realize how difficult it would be to secure that many recreational vehicles and plots of land in Montana right about now?

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Kherson, the occupiers are beating civilians. Orcs are incapable of fighting, and it is a pleasure to attack an unarmed crowd.

Mariupol. Chaotic shelling of the city's infrastructure by racist aircraft.

Everything you need to know about "denazification" from the Russians.

 As a result of Russian shelling in the Toretsk community, the mass grave of soldiers killed in battles with the Nazis was damaged.

 Already four World War II sites have been damaged by Russian shelling, including three mass graves

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Somebody asked why Rob Lee was constantly posting profiles/stories about dead Russians, implying that he was trying to glorify them or something (which is about as far from the truth as you can be, if you've followed him and read what he's written).

He's part of an OSINT group that is tracking this stuff, hence his hundreds of postings of videos/photos of Russian stuff being taken out or Russian operations.  They have spreadsheets of confirmed Russian deaths, etc. (i.e. photos posted of corpses with their military IDs, or the death notices on the Russian websites, etc.).

He mentioned that he's not posting all of the Russian deaths, but is posting mainly the ones that are in "elite" units, and that are senior NCOs and officers, in order to show that the Ukrainians are fucking up the ability of the Russian units to operate, including both in terms of the chain-of-command as well as the NCOs that are experienced and have institutional knowledge of how things work.

He's also posting the ones linked to their death notices on official Russian websites (both news and local Russian government websites), showing that Russians are aware that the Ukrainians are killing a shitload of Russian soldiers, even if the government isn't releasing a formal number.

I haven't seen the spreadsheets that all of these are being fed into, but it is very clear from just the notices he's posting that the Ukrainians are impacting a lot of Russian units, including a lot of "elite" units.

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Re: all the dead Russians:
Good.
More.
Let the bodies hit the floor.
No apologies for my take. I love seeing invaders slaughtered. My only regret is that there aren’t more. Make it 50,000. Make it 100,000. They’re fine attacking civilians in Mariupol. So they can die. All of them. There’s only one path to redemption: lay down your arms and surrender.

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