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54 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Yeah, he used to be a pretty normal poster. His brain has significantly smoothed over since covid hit.

Quite a few pretty normal posters absolutely lost their minds at COVID.  Batshit crazy stays dormant until something drives it out. For a lot of people it was COVID

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Just now, MNLonghornFUKM said:


No you’re not. Go cry on some internet strangers shoulder some more, pussy.

Oh really? You wouldn’t be able to survive the last month I had. You’re too fucking stupid and clearly don’t have a heart

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56 minutes ago, Foosters said:

Yeah, he used to be a pretty normal poster. His brain has significantly smoothed over since covid hit.

I want to agree with you but I’m afraid it’s more this 

 

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23 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:


If you think opening up border states to a country that 90% of its population lives by the border is a bad thing, then we’re wasting our time. I don’t care what Canada’s government does. If their citizens start flocking here if we opened our side, that would be a tall tale sign that they need to pull back reentry restrictions.


Yep. US mishandled this from the get go. Having bigger cities, hundreds of millions of more people, being fatter and older has its consequences. And fuck you if you think “I don’t care”. Acting like I hug and breathed on every old person without a mask the last 15 months. That’s a bullshit pivot tactic here

I didn't say it was a "bad thing" except to say that we have to work with these people and coordinate our operations at the border. Not doing that is, practically speaking, an invitation for chaos. My preference would be that the border be open and that we have an easy way to determine that the people that crossing are vaccinated. But I also understand why that might not be practical. I'm guessing you've never had to manage large projects and see how things can quickly collapse without organization. 

For the last part, I didn't say you didn't care. I said only an asshole wouldn't. And only an asshole would think all that death was inevitable. 

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Oh really? You wouldn’t be able to survive the last month I had. You’re too fucking stupid and clearly don’t have a heart

Nobody laughed at death, or ever did. I was responding to how JS1 worded his above post.

Do not care about how hard your last month. The way you treat and talk to others in this board tells me that you’re a loser on here and in real life.
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There ya go!!!! Make assumptions about someone based on a message board that’s full of assholes being assholes. And I mainly hangout on the baseball board but please don’t come over there and ruin the college World Series. Thanks. 

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15 hours ago, lmao said:

Never said it was the same. I got the Covid vax as soon as I could (JJ). Pretty sure the flu is more lethal and has more hospitalizations for those under 18. Seems like there is a lot less pressure for people to get the flu vaccine. Don't remember any campaigns for it when I was in hs and there would be outbreaks in the district and in some cases kids would die. 

Tl;dr there is a lot of apathy in getting the flu vaccine amongst the general population particularly people under 18. 

I'm almost 50 years old.  I've never known anyone that has died of the flu.  I know at least 10 people that died of COVID-19.  I don't know where you are getting your numbers, but my life experience leads me to believe that your numbers are bullshit.

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4 hours ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I'm almost 50 years old.  I've never known anyone that has died of the flu.  I know at least 10 people that died of COVID-19.  I don't know where you are getting your numbers, but my life experience leads me to believe that your numbers are bullshit.

Not sure why you're mad but I'm talking about people 18 & under. The flu ravaged my district when I was a freshman in hs. It seems crazy looking back they didn't really implement any flu prevention or push for the flu vaccinr. I'm arguing that they're should have been a push to get young people vaccinated, similar to what they're doing with covid. 

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I know of at least four people who were relatively healthy in their late 40s and early 50s who died unexpectedly this past year, and a couple in their early 70s, who died and their deaths will probably never be attributed to Covid. I don’t know for sure if Covid caused it and probably will never know but I do know that amount has never happened before in my lifetime. Previous deaths in the past I knew were due to car wrecks or suicide.  So many people I know dying at that age in one single year. Lots of death in the past year.

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On 6/19/2021 at 7:23 AM, mdmost said:

In fairness to Cole, there's only so much to do in Buffalo and you can only go look at Niagara Falls once or twice before it's just not that exciting any longer. 

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Gottlieb was on CNBC this morning and said modeling shows a big uptick in the early fall in the non-vaxxed states of, you guessed it, Arky, Bama, Miss., etc.  (Sorry Bama Chick.)  Same modeling shows the coastal cities largely not impacted.

This will settle into being a rural, white, Trumpkin disease, which is what we've long predicted.  

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10 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Gottlieb was on CNBC this morning and said modeling shows a big uptick in the early fall in the non-vaxxed states of, you guessed it, Arky, Bama, Miss., etc.  (Sorry Bama Chick.)  Same modeling shows the coastal cities largely not impacted.

This will settle into being a rural, white, Trumpkin disease, which is what we've long predicted.  

Long enough for the redneck variant to form 

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19 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Gottlieb was on CNBC this morning and said modeling shows a big uptick in the early fall in the non-vaxxed states of, you guessed it, Arky, Bama, Miss., etc.  (Sorry Bama Chick.)  Same modeling shows the coastal cities largely not impacted.

This will settle into being a rural, white, Trumpkin disease, which is what we've long predicted.  

/Mack Brown/ And that's fair /Mack Brown/

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On 6/18/2021 at 9:12 PM, lmao said:

Not sure why you're mad but I'm talking about people 18 & under. The flu ravaged my district when I was a freshman in hs. It seems crazy looking back they didn't really implement any flu prevention or push for the flu vaccinr. I'm arguing that they're should have been a push to get young people vaccinated, similar to what they're doing with covid. 

Not sure why you think I'm mad.  

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On 6/17/2021 at 11:50 PM, WhatTheBuck said:

Bullshit. Demonstrate it. You’re projecting. I assume you’re talking about Redfield. “Could have” and “was” are two different things. Who was calling him a racist? I don’t recall that.

It’s likely that we'll never know exactly where and how it came into the human population. And anyone who obsesses over that rather than the lies and incompetence of the Trump/Pence administration that cost hundreds of thousands of American lives is probably just trying to distract us from the lies and incompetence of the Trump/Pence administration that cost hundreds of thousands of American lives.

Watch the video again. Colbert wasn’t even taking Jon seriously. I was more bothered by the makeup stain on Stewart’s shoulder. And it was comedy. Of course it could have been broadcast at any time. The whole notion that, “This would have been banned on YouTube not long ago,” is stupid and false. Again, I think you’re projecting and when you say, “We miss you, Jon,” I don’t believe you. (Hint: he hasn’t exactly gone away.)

I demonstrated it and you ran away.

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Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.
 
Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.
The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.
 
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9 hours ago, Aqua Buddha said:

Two people are dead and four of their coworkers were hospitalized after a Covid-19outbreak swept through a government building in Manatee County, Florida.

The outbreak began in the IT department, according to Manatee County Administrator Scott Hopes, who is also an epidemiologist. Another person who worked on the same floor but in a different department also tested positive for coronavirus last week.
 
Of the six people infected, five were hospitalized. One employee who was in the hospital died and another employee who was not hospitalized also died, Hopes told CNN's Erin Burnett.
The only exposed employee in the IT office who was vaccinated did not get infected, Hopes said.
 

Morons.

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I should add, this is what lmao thinks is conclusive proof that the virus came out of a Wuhan lab. Some of the people who believe that now were bitching about bats and wet markets before. I have no problem admitting that I don’t know. And I’m not sure we’ll ever know. And if we know, how does that change anything? What are we going to do about it?

We’ve been building a military to fight the Russians and the Chinese since before I was born. Is it time to put it to use? I’m ready to take the risk. Are you?

Anything we say about how China should behave is meaningless. We can talk all we want. As if they give a fuck. They’re a huge market and we’re thirsty for their money and cheap labor and nothing is going to change any of that. Unless we want to get serious and put millions of lives on the line. 

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On 6/19/2021 at 11:00 AM, 4th&Five said:

Just another dumb blonde from SMU. 

You can take the boy out of Little Elm, but you can't take the Little Elm out of the boy.  

For reference, Little Elm is rural-ish Denton County on the north side of Lake Lewisville.  It's prime Trump Country.

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Well here is a nice snapshot of what is coming to our heavily red voting areas.  You know the areas I am talking about, where many people voted for Donald Trump, thought masks were for pussies, and they personally do not need a vaccine dose.

Manatee County in Florida gives us a nice snapshot of where this level of endless stupidity will land you.  I am not the biggest Huffington Post fan (don't worry dotards you can attack the messenger, media, or whatever helps keep your delusions intact) but these numbers seem significant. Only person not killed or hospitalized in county office was vaccinated   Manatee Country voted 57% for Trump in 2020.  

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Two people are dead after a recent COVID-19 outbreak in the IT department of a county government building in Manatee County, Florida ― leaving only one person, who was vaccinated, unscathed.

Of the six known exposures that occurred around the same time, at least four people have reportedly been hospitalized and two have died. One of those people died last week in the hospital, while the other one died at home, Dr. Scott Hopes, a county administrator and epidemiologist, told CNN’s Erin Burnett.

“That’s a 40% case fatality rate,” Hopes told Bay News 9. “That’s a high fatality rate.”

In all, five of the six people got sick ― and none of them were vaccinated, according to Hopes. “This particular outbreak demonstrates the effectiveness, I believe, with the vaccine,” he said. “All of the cases were non-vaccinated. They were unvaccinated.”

Three additional county workers tested positive for the virus over the weekend, after the county closed the building Friday afternoon for an emergency deep cleaning. According to Fox 13 News, none of them were vaccinated either.

About 700 people work in the nine-story building each day.

And Don't worry Republicans, the guy that died at home will not be counted as a Covid death by DeSantis' Health department. So you can get excited about that!

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Curious about liability

Let’s assume the family of dead man sue. if I was the judge I would dress up in a gritty costume and dismiss the case. But let’s also assume the judge isn’t an asshole like me. Would the company be liable for not enforcing vaccinations? Or can they be covered by a some kind of signed waiver saying you accept the risks if you’re not vaccinated?

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7 hours ago, WhatTheBuck said:

I should add, this is what lmao thinks is conclusive proof that the virus came out of a Wuhan lab. Some of the people who believe that now were bitching about bats and wet markets before. I have no problem admitting that I don’t know. And I’m not sure we’ll ever know. And if we know, how does that change anything? What are we going to do about it?

We’ve been building a military to fight the Russians and the Chinese since before I was born. Is it time to put it to use? I’m ready to take the risk. Are you?

Anything we say about how China should behave is meaningless. We can talk all we want. As if they give a fuck. They’re a huge market and we’re thirsty for their money and cheap labor and nothing is going to change any of that. Unless we want to get serious and put millions of lives on the line. 

There's a big thread here dealing with recent theories about the origin of the virus.

You are correct that it's not proven either way.  Probably never will be.

I think there are some legitimate questions raised that should be investigated.  Like where is "gain of function" research occurring if it is?  Should it be shut down?  Did US government money fund any such research and should it?  Do we have adequate knowledge and control of "sub-agencies" like EcoHealth Alliance that distribute NIH money?

But, as is consistent with the timeline, the main origin of the recent "controversy" is an attempt to prove tRuMp was right and FaUcI was wrong.  Which is stupid.

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46 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

But, as is consistent with the timeline, the main origin of the recent "controversy" is an attempt to prove tRuMp was right and FaUcI was wrong.  Which is stupid.

I don't think that this is an accurate representation of the events on the time line.  If anything Trump's bumbling reflexively suppressed broad and careful consideration of the evidence.  and Fauci was part of that reflexive response at the time, yes. But the re-emergence of the discussion in broader circles at this time is the result of actions by a number of different scientists that have stepped forward, and either modified their prior hastily taken positions or newly piped in to tell people to slow their roll with the blanket dismissiveness.  Then the major media outlets started to ramp it up, and here we are.  I don't think that any of those individuals are driven by a desire to prove Trump right and Fauci wrong.  

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

There's a big thread here dealing with recent theories about the origin of the virus.

You are correct that it's not proven either way.  Probably never will be.

I think there are some legitimate questions raised that should be investigated.  Like where is "gain of function" research occurring if it is?  Should it be shut down?  Did US government money fund any such research and should it?  Do we have adequate knowledge and control of "sub-agencies" like EcoHealth Alliance that distribute NIH money?

But, as is consistent with the timeline, the main origin of the recent "controversy" is an attempt to prove tRuMp was right and FaUcI was wrong.  Which is stupid.

There’s also a thread on UFO’s with people who think “unidentified” means “alien.” As much as I’d like that to be true (unless they’re here to eat us), I can’t reach that conclusion. And the probability of them being extra-terrestrial is so low as to make it virtually impossible.

One thing I feel pretty confident about when it comes to the virus is that it’s highly unlikely that it was engineered as a bio-weapon because that just wouldn’t make any sense. It killed too many Chinese people. There’s no reason to create a bio-weapon that is as dangerous to you as anyone else. The worst comic book villain wouldn’t do that. 

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