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2 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

Trump's gonna commit an impeachable offense in the video, will get impeached again, and this will replay every day till the 20th like The Breakfast Club.

I disagree. Trump's video will be a calm, rational breakdown of his superior healthcare plan. Then, he will give a thoughtful speech on how to achieve peace in the Middle East. It will be his first presidential moment. It will be his gift to the nation, and the world. Then, he will go off the rails and curse about the 4th quarter of the Texas/ Iowa State game. 

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1 hour ago, yoladu said:

50 years from now in history books, students will read, "The president was impeached twice, but not convicted? " and ask why?

the GOP will not be looked upon favorably.

 

 

(not calling you out.  just found it amusing)

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4 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

holy shit, today was the day that donald became president. that was a shockingly reasonable statement, aside from the brief aside about 1st amendment bullshit.

Feels like someone got to him.  Like, uh, you're going to fucking prison.  You might want to stop.

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3 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

holy shit, today was the day that donald became president. that was a shockingly reasonable statement, aside from the brief aside about 1st amendment bullshit.

The only real thing he cares about is getting Twitter back. He will sell his whole movement and all his supporters for Twitter.

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Dotard is the worst I've ever seen at coming across as sincere when he reads speeches like these under duress, because his words ("rancor" and "incursion"? lulz), cadence, tone, and attitude don't at all resemble his honest, off the cuff statements. And he sucks ass at hiding the fact that he's reading; he just squints at the screen off to the side. 

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2 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Dotard is the worst I've ever seen at coming across as sincere when he reads speeches like these under duress, because his words ("rancor" and "incursion"? lulz), cadence, tone, and attitude don't at all resemble his honest, off the cuff statements. And he sucks ass at hiding the fact that he's reading; he just squints at the screen off to the side. 

Hey, he showed up and completed the exam. Gentleman's C, no point figuring the actual average. Ey oop off to pub.

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1 hour ago, hayden_horn said:

holy shit, today was the day that donald became president. that was a shockingly reasonable statement, aside from the brief aside about 1st amendment bullshit.

I think it lends credence to the report that it's finally sinking in how much that he's fucked his brand/business interests going forward.

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2 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

dems are too politically stupid to hold on to power

this right here.  dems have been getting played, scapegoated, swiftboated and rickrolled for decades.  today was the perfect example where they have global tv as a live stage all to themselves, and it's the house with no senate rule 19, and never before in political history have they been sitting on the mt. everest of logic and moral high ground, and they absolutely fail to coordinate their assault.   half the speakers should have never wasted bandwidth and got 30 seconds of air time for no purpose.  the dems could have pummeled the everlivingfuck out of the sanctimonious bastards, the fox script would have been shattered in to a 1000 pieces, fox would not have been able to switch to anything else, the dipshits would have had to take the loss pussy, and the dems fucking blew it.

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1 minute ago, Hagbard Celine said:

the dems fucking blew it

You're telling me the same dem leadership that forced clinton down our throats and enabled trump's rise by losing the house and senate are continuing to blow it?? SAY IT AINT SO! WHAT A SURPRISE!

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There is no guarantee of that.
Anyone telling you what's going to happen in 2022 is a fool and a liar.
A) Trump voters don't show up when he's not on the ballot
B) We have to wait and see what Biden does - $2k checks, an actual vaccine distribution system, reopening schools and getting people back to work and a projected good economy due to re-openings and vaccines - why would suburban voters suddenly freak out and flip back to the GOP? Who is STILL going to be the party of Trump, with plenty of nasty primary battles. 
C) GOP has way more ground to defend than Dems.  GOP has seats up in 2 different Biden seats (PA and WI) and an open seat in NC. Dems have no seats in Trump states this time around, unlike 2018.


Because team first. What would it take for you to start rooting for Aggy? That’s where we are.
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Additional rant. Him bitching about the first amendment and censorship while literally using his public platform to be heard worldwide. He can speak and be heard any time he wants. He’s just been prevented from using a privately owned website to sow violence amongst his deplorable followers. Seriously, those five minutes are more infuriating to me than anything he’s done.

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18 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

this right here.  dems have been getting played, scapegoated, swiftboated and rickrolled for decades.  today was the perfect example where they have global tv as a live stage all to themselves, and it's the house with no senate rule 19, and never before in political history have they been sitting on the mt. everest of logic and moral high ground, and they absolutely fail to coordinate their assault.   half the speakers should have never wasted bandwidth and got 30 seconds of air time for no purpose.  the dems could have pummeled the everlivingfuck out of the sanctimonious bastards, the fox script would have been shattered in to a 1000 pieces, fox would not have been able to switch to anything else, the dipshits would have had to take the loss pussy, and the dems fucking blew it.

The idea that the republican script can ever be changed by anything the Dems say or do is flatly ridiculous 

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1 minute ago, Hookah Horns said:

Not changed, but effectively countered, exposed, debunked and belittled. 

Why do y’all pretend any of that shit matters? No one on that side of the aisle is being swayed by anything to Dems so or do. Stop giving a fuck what they think. 

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1 minute ago, hobbes2702 said:

Why do y’all pretend any of that shit matters? No one on that side of the aisle is being swayed by anything to Dems so or do. Stop giving a fuck what they think. 

Nobody's (at least I'm not) talking about swaying dyed in the wool Rs, much less R congresscritters. I'm talking voters who can be swayed. Messaging matters. As just one example, fucktons of people voted R this cycle because of R fear mongering about the horribly named "defund the police" movement and "socialism."

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3 hours ago, Lobo said:

I know a lot of this forum think McConnell is an dumbass like Trump.  But he is sublimely clever.  

this reminded me of a quote from Robert Baskin in his seminal 1914 closure on the 19th century saga of Deseret, Reminiscences of Early Utah:

"I then said Gentlemen, speaking seriously, I think I know Brigham Young better than you do.  He has assumed the role of a lion, and, if by roaring he can scare me as he has you, and thereby put an end to the prosecutions, it will strengthen the belief of his credulous followers that, as claimed by him, he is under the guidance and protection of a divine power greater than that of the United States; that as a lion he is not of much consequence, and when he fails, as he will, to accomplish his purpose in the role of a lion, he will assume that of the fox, in which he is very formidable."

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2 minutes ago, Hookah Horns said:

Nobody's (at least I'm not) talking about swaying dyed in the wool Rs, much less R congresscritters. I'm talking voters who can be swayed. Messaging matters. As just one example, fucktons of people voted R this cycle because of R fear mongering about the horribly named "defund the police" movement and "socialism."

If someone is concerned about messaging when a president is being impeached for a second time after just attempting a violent coup then they are already team R. It’s beyond tired seeing Dems and progressives criticize Dems for their messaging when the opposition is burning the country down. 

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this is fantastic from bernstein.  fucking nixon, NIXON got down on his knees with kissinger and prayed for the country and prayed for peace and he recognized what he had done to the country and the fucking orange man will never have that level of introspection.  FUCKING NIXON.

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and the enablement of dotard by the republican cult is the greatest crime of his administration.... in nixon's case all the leading pubs told nixon they were going to impeach and convict him themselves, in this case the seditionists have instead enabled the dotard.

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7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

If someone is concerned about messaging when a president is being impeached for a second time after just attempting a violent coup then they are already team R. It’s beyond tired seeing Dems and progressives criticize Dems for their messaging when the opposition is burning the country down. 

Defund the police was one of the biggest unforced errors I’ve ever seen. 

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1 minute ago, Biff Tannen said:

By the skin of their teeth. After the worst president in history and a completely complicit senate. 

It was such a huge unforced error that they flipped fucking Georgia. I wonder why?

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3 hours ago, 4th&Five said:

 

Trump managed to parlay a regular election loss into 60 court losses, a terrorist attack, and an impeachment. Truly the business genius we were promised.  In the process, he’s trashed his brand, plus lost his party’s corporate sponsors and his own business’s investment bank. Art of the Deal!

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Why do y’all pretend any of that shit matters? No one on that side of the aisle is being swayed by anything to Dems so or do. Stop giving a fuck what they think. 
Anyone on that side of the aisle will never even hear anything the dems do positively. Not ever. They consume right wing media which is a ceaseless diarrhea of outrage real or fabricated. Dems play nice - shit.
Dems hit back equal outrage.
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21 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Defund the police was one of the biggest unforced errors I’ve ever seen. 

This is a very stupid way to characterize it given that no Dems running in competitive races ever embraced it. Black activists pushing for policy reforms aren't the same people as Democrats running for office.

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