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On 5/12/2025 at 11:29 AM, irishtexan said:

The scenes involving the infected, the wolves and the cult are great. The scenes about Ellie and Dina's budding relationship are pretty fucking terrible. 

I just finished last night and started reading the replies and bravo you said it much more succinctly than I could have. 

Also why do they alternately portray Ellie as a zombie killing badass and then a dumber than a 10 year old idiot when Dina is making battle plans. For the better part of an episode there, Dina was giving main character energy and Ellie was just the doofus sidekick. And then at the end she's Jason Bourne again. 

The plot is still good and interesting, and I still think Ramsey is a kick ass actor with plenty of good scenes. And I like Dina and think her character is well acted, too, but yeah the writers are forcing the relationship plot line a little too much right now imo. Less talking, more scissoring. 

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4 minutes ago, Baboontyme said:

I just finished last night and started reading the replies and bravo you said it much more succinctly than I could have. 

Also why do they alternately portray Ellie as a zombie killing badass and then a dumber than a 10 year old idiot when Dina is making battle plans. For the better part of an episode there, Dina was giving main character energy and Ellie was just the doofus sidekick. And then at the end she's Jason Bourne again. 

The plot is still good and interesting, and I still think Ramsey is a kick ass actor with plenty of good scenes. And I like Dina and think her character is well acted, too, but yeah the writers are forcing the relationship plot line a little too much right now imo. Less talking, more scissoring. 

Agree with all the above.

In the aftershow thingie, someone was trying to explain Ellie's behavior by saying that there's tension between Dina's ex-boyfriend and Ellie, with her trying to prove she can protect Dina as well as anyone, but instead, here comes the ex-boyfriend to rescue both Dina AND Ellie, saving the day.

Still doesn't make sense.

I guess what would work is saying Ellie's an immature teenager suffering through PTSD/trauma and has never been in love. Because of that, she displays erratic behavior, has poor impulse control, and is kind of a dumbass.

That explanation might not suck if it were better written. Right now, Ellie isn't the most sympathetic character, to say the least.

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On 5/12/2025 at 5:29 AM, irishtexan said:

The scenes involving the infected, the wolves and the cult are great. The scenes about Ellie and Dina's budding relationship are pretty fucking terrible. 

This is what it’s come down to for me, and not because of woke or looks. Just sucks.

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that was a very good backstory and explains the Ellie we meet at the beginning of the season. Doesn't explain why they made her make such stupid decisions moving forward though.

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14 minutes ago, naija said:

that was a very good backstory and explains the Ellie we meet at the beginning of the season. Doesn't explain why they made her make such stupid decisions moving forward though.

She’s never been a calculating person, man. Sometimes the answer to “why is this character doing something stupid?” is because that’s part of who they are as a character.

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Fantastic episode imo. Maybe the best one yet, either season. So much so that I was disappointed when in the post-episode recap they talked about many of the scenes being from the video game. Great storytelling with the flashbacks on how Ellie came to realize what happened in SLC and how her resentment for Joel grew. Loved also the call back to Joel's childhood, and psyched to see Lalo make an appearance. 

Also, a thought/prediction. I'm going to spoiler it, even though I'm a non game player and don't know what will happen

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I think Deena is going to die. This is the only way the amount of attention that has been paid to the budding scissor relationship makes sense. It's completely out of place with the rest of the story. 

 

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