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23 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:

This needs to be plastered on every DNC office across the country.

Elections are not about policies.  They are about vibes.  People subconsciously decide who they want to vote for and THEN craft an internal reasoning for why they feel that way.

Kamala had great vibes. 

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39 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

Kamala had great vibes. 

Kamala isn't great at answering questions, and I stopped bothering to watch her rallies when it became apparent that she and Tim Walz were just going to repeat the exact same speeches and talking points every time. I still voted for her because of course I'm going to, but Trump is direct and to the point about being a piece of shit, and that resonates with republican voters in a way that Kamala wasn't able to with people who might vote for a democrat.

Posted
2 hours ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

Kamala isn't great at answering questions

The more you sound like a college student speaking up in class for participation points, the less voters like you or understand what you're saying.

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7 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

The more you sound like a college student speaking up in class for participation points, the less voters like you or understand what you're saying.

I was referring to this when I was describing the Dems generational struggles with communication.  
 

Too many of the older crowd are trying to imitate Kennedy or MLK (even Obama is prone to this but he’s a world class speaker and funny so he can get away with it).  
 

Everyone else needs practice on getting to the point quicker.  I listened to Jake Auchincloss’s interview with Derek Thompson and he’s a great example of a compelling biography held hostage by his ambition to sound like a well educated Harvard man.  

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1 minute ago, LCHorn said:

I was referring to this when I was describing the Dems generational struggles with communication.  
 

Too many of the older crowd are trying to imitate Kennedy or MLK (even Obama is prone to this but he’s a world class speaker and funny so he can get away with it).  
 

Everyone else needs practice on getting to the point quicker.  I listened to Jake Auchincloss’s interview with Derek Thompson and he’s a great example of a compelling biography held hostage by his ambition to sound like a well educated Harvard man.  

It also is a dead giveaway of how little time the speaker has spent as a member of the working class. Trump's greatest gift is being literally too stupid to speak in complete sentences.

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Posted
5 hours ago, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

antifa christ

haha.

I think I shared this before as I'm a big Zohran fan, my best friend and SIL were his year at Bowdoin (and on student government) and he's always been super earnest and honest in his beliefs and thinking. He's the real deal and even was kind of an annoying pain in the side back then, what you see today isn't some put on for politics. 

Sometimes some people are just made for the moment.

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On 11/3/2025 at 9:41 AM, immamac said:

AOC would wipe the floor with anyone else running and your concerns are not real. The main problem with AOC is there would be a lack of unity and self sabotage from the dems if she ran. If she had the org behind her it wouldn't be close. 

hopefully she runs for Senate. She'll win.

On 11/3/2025 at 10:19 AM, G650 said:

I mean, I wouldn't call AOC or even Mandami populists. They both have a very astute grasp of the complexities of governance.

There is a much wider definition of populist than the one you're using. Populist issues and grasping complexities aren't mutually exclusive by any means. 

 

On 11/3/2025 at 10:48 AM, G650 said:

The Democratic party as we know it is essentially dead. It either refreshes itself with young, energetic candidates or it goes on as a zombie version of what it has been.

LOL. Two Democratic women with national security experience won governorships in contested states yesterday, while the fascist party got wiped the fuck out across the board. There was massive turnout in CA on a single, complex issue all about defeating the fascist party. Which party needs to wholly reinvent itself?

This clip below shows a simple thing - the fascist party is committed to their repulsive lies and hypocrisy, and churlish games. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

There is a much wider definition of populist than the one you're using. Populist issues and grasping complexities aren't mutually exclusive by any means. 

 

 

No, there isn't. Populism by definition is simple answers to complex questions. Providing needed services and checking power is just basic governance.

 

7 minutes ago, Chopper said:

LOL. Two Democratic women with national security experience won governorships in contested states yesterday, while the fascist party got wiped the fuck out across the board. There was massive turnout in CA on a single, complex issue all about defeating the fascist party. Which party needs to wholly reinvent itself?

 

They are literally emblematic of what I said has to happen? Straightforward, engaged, not a billion years old, speaking to actual concerns voters have without getting mired in inane sideshows. I hope the Dems continue down that path. 

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28 minutes ago, G650 said:

 

No, there isn't. Populism by definition is simple answers to complex questions. Providing needed services and checking power is just basic governance.

 

 

They are literally emblematic of what I said has to happen? Straightforward, engaged, not a billion years old, speaking to actual concerns voters have without getting mired in inane sideshows. I hope the Dems continue down that path. 

There is right wing populism - where they pretend to be something they're not. Trump, for example. And it's distinct from left wing usage, ie Bernie Sanders and AOC. And that's why you're wrong in a nutshell. But whatever. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

There is right wing populism - where they pretend to be something they're not. Trump, for example. And it's distinct from left wing usage, ie Bernie Sanders and AOC. And that's why you're wrong in a nutshell. But whatever. 

Populism isn't that hard right now. Crowd funding a ton of money is easier than it has ever been. 

Posted
24 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'd rather light money on fire than give it to a politician.

before you do that, please call me as I could use some funds to grow my businesses. thank you for your consideration to this matter.

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Posted
3 hours ago, washparkhorn said:

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Someone else ran and won on “affordability” last night.
Say his name. 🐀

 

One guy from a Gravel Institute video, who nobody had ever heard of a year ago, completely dismantled the premise on which Mayo Pete's (and a bunch of other useless thinkpiece writers) entire worldview and business model are based.

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Pundits outchea saying though Zohran getting all the attention the biggest winner last night was our boy Newsom. He's building to a successful presidential bid IMO and I'm hear for it (spicy memes addict).

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12 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

Pundits outchea saying though Zohran getting all the attention the biggest winner last night was our boy Newsom. He's building to a successful presidential bid IMO and I'm hear for it (spicy memes addict).

Re: Newsome, at least he fucking did something.  

I'm a little over the establishment Dem "we have to fight" but it's empty rhetoric.  

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Posted
1 minute ago, Chopper said:

@G650apologies for being overly argumentative or dismissive. I need to do better. 

 

It's all good homie, we are in the trust tree.

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On 11/3/2025 at 4:59 PM, LCHorn said:

 


Well, the evidence is that the Democratic brand is so tarnished there an independent does better, so I’m not sure what underpins @chainsaw’s faith here.  

Let’s see what it looks like if this government shut down goes another month.

 

 

Actually let’s see what happens if the Medicaid cuts stick and ACA credits go away due to the republicans nuking the filibuster 

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7 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

Let’s see what it looks like if this government shut down goes another month.

 

Let’s see what it looks like if this government shut down goes another month

 

Actually let’s see what happens if the Medicaid cuts stick and ACA credits go away due to the republicans nuking the filibuster 

I hope I'm wrong that option 3 (Pubs caving and the gov't reopens after fixing the HC part of Trump's stupid law), while being good for lots of people in the short-term, would be a long-term loss for us all. You know Dems wouldn't capitalize on that win, even if they tried. People need to feel the pain, unfortunately, to set aside their racism and xenophobia and actually vote in their own economic interests.

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1 minute ago, softlynow said:

I hope I'm wrong that option 3 (Pubs caving and the gov't reopens after fixing the HC part of Trump's stupid law), while being good for lots of people in the short-term, would be a long-term loss for us all. You know Dems wouldn't capitalize on that win, even if they tried. People need to feel the pain, unfortunately, to set aside their racism and xenophobia and actually vote in their own economic interests.

If the republicans were to cave today, would it even be possible to put the subsidies back into the ACA? Isn't every state already advertising their plans and don't people have to be signed up pretty soon?

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Just now, The Hot Dog Buffet said:

If the republicans were to cave today, would it even be possible to put the subsidies back into the ACA? Isn't every state already advertising their plans and don't people have to be signed up pretty soon?

No clue. But we live in the timeline where things we thought were impossible have already happened, so I put little stock in the conventional wisdom on anything the federal government touches. 

Posted
5 hours ago, LCHorn said:

Re: Newsome, at least he fucking did something.  

I'm a little over the establishment Dem "we have to fight" but it's empty rhetoric.  

He should be candidate. He’s the only one to thrive in this era for democrats. 

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