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I love the New Derka World Order where you throw out an opinion (in this case grounded in uppers and inaccuracies), somebody thinks your opinion is crap....claps back and the default position is "well they are just unable to handle contradictory opinions".  What a time to be alive.

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Oh my God, I got a precise line of dialogue wrong! The style/delivery is more important than the words themselves.

And yeah, that guy is plainly unable to handle contradictory ideas. Thinking because I like Tarantino and his movies, I have to acquiesce to his opinion on another director. I think he completely missed that I said Tarantino was the “true talent with a sense of humor” rather than just the true talent, as well. Again, whatever. Nolan fanboys are so reddit, so literal, so concerned with accuracy, so Austin, so enamored with AI/LLMs, EVs, etc. What a shame that the more compelling 53 year old in PTA is basically not even known among the general public. 
 

Anyway, y’all will be rid of me soon. Terrible vibes on this site, especially looking at the politics board — earnestly crying about “democracy” in peril, probably tons of lawyers posting. 

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i am trying to imagine how one can genuinely believe this insufferable effort at projecting superiority of taste can possibly be effective enough on this board in particular that it is worth it for them to put the level of effort necessary to register an account and post a bunch of 14 year old styled projection (bonus mention for using drugs, so edgy!) on this thread.

it's so pathetic and puerile that i genuinely can not.

people try so hard.

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Well, the key word there is genuinely. And you’re right, “I” have been puerile, try hard, insufferable. But why care so much (or at all) about opinions from anonymous people? There are no stakes; everyone is just talking past one another. This ofc goes for myself too. 

Besides, movies are now just entertainment. Nothing wrong with this at all. Maybe it’s an objectively good development, even. 

Idk, maybe the internet would be good again if we all acted more like 14 year olds on it. But who really cares anyway? Besides stiff/self-serious lawyers with auto caps turned off.
 

 

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16 hours ago, WholesomeChungusSocialist said:

 I still maintain that Chris Nolan is otherworldly visually talented, but just doesn’t quite have the flesh of a great (or probably even good) writer.

This is hardly a controversial opinion in the world of film discourse. Nolan has cringe dialogue and writes transparently thin female characters, news at 11. Incredibly insightful and against the grain stuff here.

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25 minutes ago, Reynolds Woodcock said:

This is hardly a controversial opinion in the world of film discourse. Nolan has cringe dialogue and writes transparently thin female characters, news at 11. Incredibly insightful and against the grain stuff here.

Right. But I think he also struggles to write men more often than we care to admit. Again, whatever, movie didn’t work for me. Maybe I’m just surprised by how much more I enjoyed Barbie.

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3 hours ago, sidis said:

in particular that it is worth it for them to put the level of effort necessary to register an account and post a bunch of 14 year old styled projection (bonus mention for using drugs, so edgy!) on this thread.

You're talking to an AI.

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Man I remember 12+ years ago when I first joined the Shag,  I lurked for a good six months and waded into the waters very gently when I finally felt I had something clever to contribute.  I knew I wanted to be a part of this community but had seen the sheer mercilessness inherent in a ‘room’ full of drunken longhorn lawyers.  

I’ll never understand ‘people’ who go through the trouble to sign up, and instantly either join a contentious thread or burst in with regarded hot takes given it usually ends up poorly 

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I’ll never understand ‘people’ who go through the trouble to sign up, and instantly either join a contentious thread or burst in with regarded hot takes given it usually ends up poorly 


That’s a much easier process if you’re an AI taking uppers.
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Finally got to see this.

Not sure exactly how to praise this film, except to say I found everything about it outstanding.

 

This page of the thread, however...  Good God you all need therapy.

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On 1/10/2024 at 3:18 PM, sidis said:

i finally watched this last week. 

i liked it a lot more than i expected to which surprised me. 

I did as well to the opposite experience.

I am wondering if it’s because I watched it outside of the hype cycle some 7 months later, but it seemed to be flat. None of the acting was off the charts for me. RDJ was good, Matt Damon was okay, the female leads were okay, Cillian Murphy was good, not great, as the most remarkable thing he did was vaguely look like Oppie. 

Maybe I’m being too harsh because expectations were high hearing it on everyone’s Oscar shortlist, but it really felt like a marginally better Napoleon (with worse costumes and sets) and a less urgent and less gay Imitation Game.

The biggest problem to me…The cyanide in the apple was so melodramatically stupid that I was immediately taken out of the film and character and it took a while to take the movie serious again.

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3 hours ago, BeardIP said:

 

The biggest problem to me…The cyanide in the apple was so melodramatically stupid that I was immediately taken out of the film and character and it took a while to take the movie serious again.

That was actually a real thing Oppenheimer said he did though. It wasn’t cyanide but he did inject an apple with random chemicals and attempt to give it to his professor that he was pissed at. Allegedly almost got expelled for it.

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8 hours ago, Helobious said:

That was actually a real thing Oppenheimer said he did though. It wasn’t cyanide but he did inject an apple with random chemicals and attempt to give it to his professor that he was pissed at. Allegedly almost got expelled for it.

I guess? I read it was not very historically reliable that it occurred.

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On 1/10/2024 at 3:36 AM, Homercles said:

Man I remember 12+ years ago when I first joined the Shag,  I lurked for a good six months and waded into the waters very gently when I finally felt I had something clever to contribute.  I knew I wanted to be a part of this community but had seen the sheer mercilessness inherent in a ‘room’ full of drunken longhorn lawyers.  

I’ll never understand ‘people’ who go through the trouble to sign up, and instantly either join a contentious thread or burst in with regarded hot takes given it usually ends up poorly 

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Nah, I register and post in like 1 day.

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12 hours ago, HornOnTheBayou said:

Are you telling me that a Hollywood production took some liberties with the historical truth?

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Yea to the detriment of the entire tone and gravitas of the movie, in this instance. 

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Yea to the detriment of the entire tone and gravitas of the movie, in this instance. 

The poison apple scene occurred in part of the movie showing a young physicist trying to find his calling and he was flailing.

It was later used to establish scenes with Nelson Bohr (Branaugh). The poison apple was used here at various points to set up various ethical questions about Opp, including how could a man make a bomb that could destroy the world.

And you’re worrying about the one time he poisoned an apple for one man?
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On 1/10/2024 at 5:36 AM, Homercles said:

I knew I wanted to be a part of this community but had seen the sheer mercilessness inherent in a ‘room’ full of drunken longhorn lawyers.  

Hey!

 

I'm not a lawyer.

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On 1/9/2024 at 2:25 PM, WholesomeChungusSocialist said:

Oh my God, I got a precise line of dialogue wrong! The style/delivery is more important than the words themselves.

And yeah, that guy is plainly unable to handle contradictory ideas. Thinking because I like Tarantino and his movies, I have to acquiesce to his opinion on another director. I think he completely missed that I said Tarantino was the “true talent with a sense of humor” rather than just the true talent, as well. Again, whatever. Nolan fanboys are so reddit, so literal, so concerned with accuracy, so Austin, so enamored with AI/LLMs, EVs, etc. What a shame that the more compelling 53 year old in PTA is basically not even known among the general public. 
 

Anyway, y’all will be rid of me soon. Terrible vibes on this site, especially looking at the politics board — earnestly crying about “democracy” in peril, probably tons of lawyers posting. 

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9 hours ago, Eskimohorn said:


The poison apple scene occurred in part of the movie showing a young physicist trying to find his calling and he was flailing.

It was later used to establish scenes with Nelson Bohr (Branaugh). The poison apple was used here at various points to set up various ethical questions about Opp, including how could a man make a bomb that could destroy the world.

And you’re worrying about the one time he poisoned an apple for one man?

Nelson?

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Finally saw it. Twice. Excellent movie. My only "criticism" is that the Trinity explosion itself paled in comparison to the real life 1945 footage. Not much they could have done about that without CGI'ing the fuck out of it.

Have a question that I've never seen or heard discussed regarding Los Alamos that I'm hoping one of you history buffs can help me out with:

The Trinity test took place on July 15. Fat Man and Little Boy shipped so shortly after to allow Little Boy to be loaded onto the Enola Gay by August 5th. Obviously, the three bombs were built simultaneously, two plutonium, one uranium (Little Boy). It seemed like the Trinity bomb had a lot of externally ran elements, cabling and exposed components. I doubt Fat Man was as "simple" as encasing all of that in a bombshell and throwing it in a crate. Or was it? Hard to imagine that they built two radically different plutonium bombs (other than the altitude-triggered implosion in Fat Man). Or were the externally ran elements purely to assist in data collection, and they could have made it more "self-contained" had they needed?

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That was the shortest 3 hour movie I have ever seen.  It was amazing.  Also, there were a couple of lines that were gave me chills when Oppenheimer and Grove were trying to convince people to join the project. 

I don't know if we can be trusted with such a weapon. But I know the Nazis can't.

Why? How about because this is the most important fucking thing to ever happen in the history of the world!

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I knew I had to watch this before the AA’s tomorrow night but never could find a suitable 3-hour window to knock it out. Just finished about an hour ago. Simply outstanding.

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On 2/26/2024 at 8:48 AM, kevwun said:

 

Why? How about because this is the most important fucking thing to ever happen in the history of the world!

Wrong. The A bomb is a close #2 behind the front-release brassiere.  

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