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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

I think that the fact that the actions were political/personal in nature is the dispositive fact. The Hatch Act tidies that up nicely.

I think a second factor is that federal officials, probably most especially executive officials, have no role in state elections.

That the acts are alleged to be a crime and may be proven to be a crime is not dispositive.

These are my hopes, but I'm not the judge and I really hope this isn't wishcasting.

On this, I'm pretty sure that the only conceivable role any federal official could have related to state elections would be actual DOJ attorneys investigating whether in conducting an election some state official was violating citizens' constitutional rights. I guess maybe the attorney general, to the extent the attorney general is involved in discussions with lower-level investigators concerning such investigations.

The President and/or the Chief of Staff? Absent a truly terrifying application of the unitary executive theory, I can't see it. 

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3 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

On this, I'm pretty sure that the only conceivable role any federal official could have related to state elections would be actual DOJ attorneys investigating whether in conducting an election some state official was violating citizens' constitutional rights. I guess maybe the attorney general, to the extent the attorney general is involved in discussions with lower-level investigators concerning such investigations.

The President and/or the Chief of Staff? Absent a truly terrifying application of the unitary executive theory, I can't see it. 

This. 

Posted
2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

No wonder he's been melting down slightly more than usual on truth.social. He's been playing the greatest hits, but MAGA isn't sending him money.

The PAC had $156 million.  It now has $4 million.

I will guarantee two things about the $152 million that has been spent:

1) very little of it actually went to pay attorneys (Trump attorneys get stiffed: this is the way)

2) a great deal of it found its way into the pockets of the Trump family

 

The problem with any con that goes on too long is that it all falls apart.

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8 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The PAC had $156 million.  It now has $4 million.

I will guarantee two things about the $152 million that has been spent:

1) very little of it actually went to pay attorneys (Trump attorneys get stiffed: this is the way)

2) a great deal of it found its way into the pockets of the Trump family

 

The problem with any con that goes on too long is that it all falls apart.

I happen to know that one of his former, now deceased (RIP), attorneys never got paid for any of the (fairly significant) work he did. 

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Wasn't it shown that Melania's hairdresser/stylist was being paid as a "strategy consultant" or similar BS title in another filing? The fucking beverage cart girl at Bedminster is going to show up as "diplomatic liaison" in some accounting report down the road.

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I happen to know that one of his former, now deceased (RIP), attorneys never got paid for any of the (fairly significant) work he did. 

She stole his money and killed him! (wink, you know who)

Posted
2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

I happen to know that one of his former, now deceased (RIP), attorneys never got paid for any of the (fairly significant) work he did. 

His entire life has been a quest to be the biggest piece of shit any of us has ever seen. And he was elected President. 

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1 minute ago, GhostOfTomJoad said:

The fucking beverage cart girl at Bedminster is going to show up as "diplomatic liaison" in some accounting report down the road.

Mycological Masseuse

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

The PAC had $156 million.  It now has $4 million.

I will guarantee two things about the $152 million that has been spent:

1) very little of it actually went to pay attorneys (Trump attorneys get stiffed: this is the way)

2) a great deal of it found its way into the pockets of the Trump family

 

The problem with any con that goes on too long is that it all falls apart.

#2 wouldn't surprise me but what I understand is that the lawyers who don't get paid are those who Trump pays for himself.

The PACs aren't run by him and are paying the legal bills for Trump and some defendants like Nauta. In fact, the reason they are running out of cash is because Trump refuses to pay for the lawyers out of his own pocket and insists on using the money from the rubes from Save America PAC.

Keep in mind there are two PACs here - "Save America" which is the one paying the legal bills and for some campaigning and also "Make America Great Again PAC" which doesn't pay the legal bills but has had to loan Save America PAC money in order to make ends meet. 

Regardless, both are running out of cash and I wouldn't be surprised to see Save America go kaput soon.

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Posted
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

The PAC had $156 million.  It now has $4 million.

I will guarantee two things about the $152 million that has been spent:

1) very little of it actually went to pay attorneys (Trump attorneys get stiffed: this is the way)

2) a great deal of it found its way into the pockets of the Trump family

 

The problem with any con that goes on too long is that it all falls apart.

Well, a certain someone is facing a $250 million default loss in the state of New York with either payment or asset forfeiture, so yeah.  

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Posted
11 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

It's not that shooting someone in the face is or is not a crime.  It might be murder, it might be manslaughter, it might be self defense and not a crime at all.

It's that the White House Chief of Staff is not authorized to carry a weapon, he's not authorized to protect the president using force or deadly force, he's not generally authorized to shoot people, for any reason. He has no law-enforcement authority whatsoever.  It's not part of his job description, crime or not.

But if he's arguing that he didn't shoot him, didn't even have a gun then the analogy is fine. You still need to address it. 

And go. 

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Posted (edited)
21 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

But if he's arguing that he didn't shoot him, didn't even have a gun then the analogy is fine. You still need to address it. 

And go. 

What?  I've explained it in great detail.  Arguing that something is or is not a crime, guilt or innocence, is not going to help get a case removed, or conversely, keep it in state court.

If shooting people is part of your official federal duty, that's relevant.  If it's not, that's relevant.  Whether the shooting was murder or manslaughter or completely justified is not relevant.  Trying to argue you didn't do it isn't relevant, either.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

While most of America was sleeping, Donnie was airing his feelings at 2 am:

 

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He spelled it right! 

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Posted

It might be related to the absolute fucking mountain of evidence in him, in a variety of different cases. A lot of which we have all seen and heard. 

"I've been arrested for no reason!"

"We have video of you murdering people. You looked at the camera and said your name, and then murdered them. You are being prosecuted for that."

"Yep, no reason at all!"

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Posted
4 minutes ago, The Dog said:

bit of a sidetrack but more from Kemp - he really went after Donnie:

 

Sounds like there may be a Republican politician in Georgia who actually has working brain cells.  Hope he can last a few more months without being murdered.

Posted
6 minutes ago, The Dog said:

bit of a sidetrack but more from Kemp - he really went after Donnie:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

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Yeah he's really pushing to be the darkhorse guy if/when Trump either bows out or dies, positioning himself for 2028 Presidential run or the 2026 Senate seat held by Ossoff. 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

Yes he is.  He's positioning himself for 2026 Senate, 2028 President if Biden wins again or the guy the GOP money people turn to in 2024 if Trump can't go. 

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

I don't get it.  Is he up against a term limit?  Does he just not want to be the Republican nominee for governor the next election?  Is he on dope?

He's been going after Trump for 2 years and crushed a MAGA primary challenge in 2022. 

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

He's been going after Trump for 2 years and crushed a MAGA primary challenge in 2022. 

Got it.  Haven't been really following Georgia politics beyond the Herschel Walker hilarity.  If the state veers back to red then I guess it's better than MAGA red. 

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Posted
33 minutes ago, AnTiM said:

Sounds like there may be a Republican politician in Georgia who actually has working brain cells.  Hope he can last a few more months without being murdered.

He’s a RINO!

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3 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Got it.  Haven't been really following Georgia politics beyond the Herschel Walker hilarity.  If the state veers back to red then I guess it's better than its not MAGA red. 

MAGA has been rejected in statewide races which is why guys like Kemp and Raffensburger keep their jobs while they have two Democratic US Senators (because the R candidates were MAGA idiots). It also wasn't widely reported but the GOP speaker of the Georgia house also said he wasn't going after Fani. 

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Kemp is a piece of shit in his own right, but he legit hates Trump and has for a long time.  He took all of Trump's shenanigans in Georgia personally.  He's not going to do him any favors for many reasons.

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