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Posted
1 hour ago, Snake Diggity said:

Harris and a qualified VP from a swing state probably has the best odds of actually happening and actually beating Trump.  

Biden/Harris have the best odds of beating Donald. The media is doing a hell of a job right now 

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1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Reagan-Bush-Clinton the most recent.  Not exactly the question you asked, but there were 7 different presidents in the 7 election cycles between 1956 and 1980.

Obama Trump Biden.

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The scary scenario is the Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, Grover Cleveland one that we may be facing soon where a guy was president, lost in the next election, and then was elected after that.  

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I guess there have been a few. But this would potentially be 3 consecutive presidents without any serving two consecutive terms. I really jacked up my question. Apologies 

Posted
3 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Reagan-Bush-Clinton the most recent.  Not exactly the question you asked, but there were 7 different presidents in the 7 election cycles between 1956 and 1980.

Yeah but Reagan and Obama were term limited. You would've had a new president regardless. 

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15 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

aunties, the tias, the meemaws, the Angela’s, the Beckies, the Karens, thots, prudes, e-girls, waifish art history majors who smoke cigarettes, instagram models, cleat chasers, mousey women who work for the state

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4 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

I guess there have been a few. But this would potentially be 3 consecutive presidents without any serving two consecutive terms. I really jacked up my question. Apologies 

I get it, I think the question really is how many times have there been two one termers in a row?

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26 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Disagree- if there was ever an election to lean into the dignity of women as human beings with inalienable rights, this is it. We need the aunties, the tias, the meemaws, the Angela’s, the Beckies, the Karens, thots, prudes, e-girls, waifish art history majors who smoke cigarettes, instagram models, cleat chasers, mousey women who work for the state, we need all of them to vote and save America. Men are a lost cause at this point.

Women like the idea of voting for a woman, but when an actual candidate is out there they start to nitpick her and end up voting for a man.  

I thought E. Warren was a great candidate last time, and was floored by how many women I talked to were dogging her -- more or less for stylistic rather than policy reasons. Wake up sheeple

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Posted
14 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

Reagan-Bush-Clinton the most recent.  Not exactly the question you asked, but there were 7 different presidents in the 7 election cycles between 1956 and 1980.

I'm assuming he meant for re-elections to not count or it would be Obama, Trump, Biden.

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14 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The scary scenario is the Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, Grover Cleveland one that we may be facing soon where a guy was president, lost in the next election, and then was elected after that.  

I'd kill for Grover Cleveland right now.

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1 minute ago, South Austin said:

I'd kill for Grover Cleveland right now.

Interesting choice of phrase given recent events...

5 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Yea, Warren was my favorite candidate last cycle. Didn't really understand why she couldn't gain any momentum.

I agree, but also I bolded your answer. 

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Posted
3 minutes ago, WBT said:

I'm assuming he meant for re-elections to not count or it would be Obama, Trump, Biden.

Correct. All those years of higher learning and I can't even pose a simple hypothetical.

Posted
3 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Yea, Warren was my favorite candidate last cycle. Didn't really understand why she couldn't gain any momentum.

Crowded primary. Hard to just say it’s just bc “woman.” 

If you’re going to win a Dem primary, you better figure out how to appeal strongly to black voters. Hillary and Biden both buried their competition with black voters. I’m not saying their ideas weren’t popular in the party, but both Bernie and Warren from lily white New England didn’t gain any traction with them 

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Posted
10 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Disagree- if there was ever an election to lean into the dignity of women as human beings with inalienable rights, this is it. We need the aunties, the tias, the meemaws, the Angela’s, the Beckies, the Karens, thots, prudes, e-girls, waifish art history majors who smoke cigarettes, instagram models, cleat chasers, mousey women who work for the state, we need all of them to vote and save America. Men are a lost cause at this point.

Great analysis.  Except it misses one key thing: perhaps the most devastating, crippling misogynists in the world are....other women.  Men are a lost cause, but nominating a minority female will boost the turnout of shitty men.  And if you think we'll make up the gap because women will be enthusiastic and support Kamala...you haven't been paying attention to how shitty women, particularly white women, are.  See the breakdown from 2016:

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Yes, "things have changed since then."  I think that in the aggregate, they've gotten worse, not better.  Women are not coming to save us.  The Karens from the burbs are going to show up in force to support the candidate who hates minorities as much as they do.  And a lot of other women "just can't trust a woman to make such big decisions," because believe it or not, plenty of women are as misogynist as men.

Nobody is coming to save us. And we are incapable of saving ourselves.  Self-immolation is our destiny.

Posted
21 minutes ago, mdmost said:

The scary scenario is the Grover Cleveland, Benjamin Harrison, Grover Cleveland one that we may be facing soon where a guy was president, lost in the next election, and then was elected after that.  

 

5 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I'd kill for Grover Cleveland right now.

Beat me to it.  I'd give your left nut for Grover Cleveland on the ballot.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Men have to vote for Trump or they’re not actually men. Charlie Kirk said so

Charlie Kirk.

A man who last touched a vagina when he plopped out of his mom's.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yes, "things have changed since then."  I think that in the aggregate, they've gotten worse, not better.  Women are not coming to save us.  The Karens from the burbs are going to show up in force to support the candidate who hates minorities as much as they do.  And a lot of other women "just can't trust a woman to make such big decisions," because believe it or not, plenty of women are as misogynist as men.

Nobody is coming to save us. And we are incapable of saving ourselves.  Self-immolation is our destiny

I don’t disagree with this, but it’s not that things have changed, it’s that styles make fights. We don’t have the choice of depolarizing the electorate or wedging the Trump coalition. So, like @jimmyjazz said, we make the agency of women the thematic center of the campaign and polarize that. Not gender identity or squishy white feminism. Abortion. D&C. The ability to remove a miscarriage from your body before you go into sepsis. The ability to “take care of it” before your high school age daughter has to walk into Westwood County Club or show up at Highland Park High School with a baby bump. 
 

I give a Harris/Whitmer ticket a punchers chance to beat Trump. Biden has lost his hook and he ain’t no dancer.

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Posted
13 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Yea, Warren was my favorite candidate last cycle. Didn't really understand why she couldn't gain any momentum.

She gained a ton of momentum, until the media assassinated her

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Just now, Doc Sam Beckett said:

She gained a ton of momentum, until the media assassinated her

2020 wasn’t her year, 2016 was. She missed her window. 

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

Personally, I'd like to see how Ben Shapiro would deal with Josh Shapiro on the ticket.

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2 minutes ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

She gained a ton of momentum, until the media assassinated her

She was a democrat and not perfect, that’s what democrats do, tear each other down if not perfect.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, TexPx said:

A woman already beat him in the popular vote. Even before he was a convicted felon.

Yes, but several million of those votes were from New York Jews. #maga

Posted
17 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Great analysis.  Except it misses one key thing: perhaps the most devastating, crippling misogynists in the world are....other women.  Men are a lost cause, but nominating a minority female will boost the turnout of shitty men.  And if you think we'll make up the gap because women will be enthusiastic and support Kamala...you haven't been paying attention to how shitty women, particularly white women, are.  See the breakdown from 2016:

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Yes, "things have changed since then."  I think that in the aggregate, they've gotten worse, not better.  Women are not coming to save us.  The Karens from the burbs are going to show up in force to support the candidate who hates minorities as much as they do.  And a lot of other women "just can't trust a woman to make such big decisions," because believe it or not, plenty of women are as misogynist as men.

Nobody is coming to save us. And we are incapable of saving ourselves.  Self-immolation is our destiny.

Your graph suggests women are significantly better than men. It doesn't really support your point. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, immamac said:

This is almost like a coaching search thread lol. 

Do we need to have someone at Horseshoe Bay on the lookout for Kamala?  Nicole might be willing to take a break from her Rainey Street gig to serve in that capacity.

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Posted

When Kamala ran for POTUS last time why did she drop out prior to Iowa?  Funding or polling or combo?

 

Shapiro apparently waffling on being Veep. Cooper from NC is a possibility.  

Posted
13 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Charlie Kirk.

A man who last touched a vagina when he plopped out of his mom's.

Goddamn can you imagine passing that watermelon? That woman must have had a pelvis like the Lincoln Tunnel. 

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Posted
27 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Yea, Warren was my favorite candidate last cycle. Didn't really understand why she couldn't gain any momentum.

Dems didn't want some young whippersnapper.*

*Warren was 71.  But Biden was 77 and Bernie was 78.

Posted
13 minutes ago, Ghost of LL said:

It's a very real phenomenon in American politics that a politician's best speech is his last one.  It's both the best speech and it's the best received speech.  See generally the farewell speeches by Obama and Reagan.  Biden would get the opportunity to have a five-month farewell speech.  And it could really move the needle.

I'm stepping down, I'm not running for President.

One last time.

 

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I wish I could watch all this as a disinterested witness. Because this is going to be the craziest shit ever..... Replacing your nominee a month before the convention.

Biden down to 26c on predictit. Michelle Obama and Newsom are going to catch him soon at this rate.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

I wish I could watch all this as a disinterested witness. Because this is going to be the craziest shit ever..... Replacing your nominee a month before the convention.

Biden down to 26c on predictit. Michelle Obama and Newsom are going to catch him soon at this rate.

Is this just pure speculation that he's gonna step down because he realizes that COVID is enough to sideline his ass for an extended period of time or is there more going on. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Is this just pure speculation that he's gonna step down because he realizes that COVID is enough to sideline his ass for an extended period of time or is there more going on. 

That plus Schiff, Pelosi, and Schumer telling him he needs to drop out.

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, immamac said:

Is this just pure speculation that he's gonna step down because he realizes that COVID is enough to sideline his ass for an extended period of time or is there more going on. 

Given the timeline of events (meeting last weekend with Dem leaders and the sudden outpouring of "he needs to step down" comments from congressional leaders yesterday), many are speculating that Biden was given a few days to make the call on his own and now the Party is going all-in to get him out.  The COVID diagnosis and resulting campaign fallout is just another datapoint that folks can use against him.

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Posted
35 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Charlie Kirk.

A man who last touched a vagina when he plopped out of his mom's.

With that melon? C-section for sure

Posted
49 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

Yea, Warren was my favorite candidate last cycle. Didn't really understand why she couldn't gain any momentum.

Didnt appeal to blacks, not moderate enough for never-Trumpers, not male enough for sexists.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

That plus Schiff, Pelosi, and Schumer telling him he needs to drop out.

Oh fuck I missed this. Yeah he's cooked. 



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