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One is the official one that will actually air nationally and be simulcast on multiple stations. The other will be just another Trump rally that Fox will cut away from the moment he starts in on another insane rant, just like they've been doing since the Dominion settlement. 

MAGA-Trump only agreed to debate Biden
DNC-Ok, Biden agrees to show up for the debate
MAGA-He’s not your candidate!
DNC-Ok, candidate Harris agrees to show up for the debate
Who’s on first?
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If he's the pick, get ready for Trump and the GOP focusing more on what constitutes a "good" Jew and a "bad" Jew  and the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the media lapping it up for views/engagement.  Since Rs are having a hard time figuring out how to attack Kamala, they will zero in on Shapiro. 

Do we really want to invite this situation right now while trying to unite the party to win an election? 

Still have faith that Kamala and her team will go with Walz or Beshear. 

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

If he's the pick, get ready for Trump and the GOP focusing more on what constitutes a "good" Jew and a "bad" Jew  and the Israel/Palestine conflict, and the media lapping it up for views/engagement.  Since Rs are having a hard time figuring out how to attack Kamala, they will zero in on Shapiro. 

Do we really want to invite this situation right now while trying to unite the party to win an election? 

Still have faith that Kamala and her team will go with Walz or Beshear. 

 

 

I think he answered that fine.

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1 hour ago, Chuckie Finster said:


The truth is she has 5+ exceptional options, but the evolution of the dialogue is a good example of why anyone who was hoping for a mini-primary to choose the candidate does not understand how politics works in 2024.

I wonder if either party will heavily modify or just abandon the primary system altogether.  With how polarized everything has become, allowing the more extreme primary electorate to saddle you with a less electable choice in the general seems suboptimal.

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Just now, HenryJames said:

I think he answered that fine.

I do too. But he'd have to answer a lot more questions about this shit, and it would take up way too much oxygen in this campaign. 

 

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23 hours ago, David Dennison said:

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This is one of the conundra here.  #bothsides believe a substantial portion of the population is too dumb to vote, especially when their ignorance leads them to support their opponent.  The right is actively working to diminish the right to vote for the "wrong people."  So far, the left doesn't seem to be much attracted to that idea.    I think it is an illiberal notion regardless of which side employs it or acts upon it.

The founding fathers I think either understood this problem (too dumb to vote) or were just afraid that it might be an undoing of their experiment, so they tried to build in some firewalls to unfettered democracy.  It is ironic that those firewalls are being employed or weaponized to undermine democracy.

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5 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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I understand not wanting to validate Truth Social, but there should be one campaign account on there to constantly @ him with this type of shit, 100 posts a day, until he explodes or better yet rage blocks it

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2 minutes ago, immamac said:

Oh wow. If anyone has concerns about the gloves not being off. 

I was going to say that I think we are past gloves and on to knives and brass knuckles, but then I remembered we skipped all of those to gunshots last month. 

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Huh, weird:

1 hour ago, jimmyjazz said:

The problem with a Kamala-only press conference masquerading as a debate against Ghost Trump is that few people would pay attention.  I don't disagree that she should accuse him of being scared and let the media run with that clip, but it would ring somewhat hollow if she doesn't debate Trump on FOX.

 

1 hour ago, Dahobbs said:

2) no it wouldn't. Her team will make clear that this was agreed and is the debate. Also, I'm betting Sept 4th will not be available due to VP duties anyway. They'll make a show of her being out of country or something that day. 

3) she may counter with Donald doing the abc debate and she'll do a debate on Fox after (knowing he isn't agreeing to abc debate). 

 

10 minutes ago, TexEx15 said:

 

 

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32 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

This is the best fucking post I’ve seen I. Awhile. Amen. 

32 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

I hope he makes it and I hope she wins by one vote in Georgia 

When can he mail in his ballot? 

24 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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Fucking fire. 

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

Huh, weird:

Her statement does nothing to counter my assertion that single-person "debates" are essentially press conferences and they will likely generate far less interest.

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1 minute ago, jimmyjazz said:

Her statement does nothing to counter my assertion that single-person "debates" are essentially press conferences and they will likely generate far less interest.

That wasn't your full statement. I don't think anyone cares if neither single person debate garners a ton of interest. The optics are the same, Trump is afraid of actual debate. 

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3 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Her statement does nothing to counter my assertion that single-person "debates" are essentially press conferences and they will likely generate far less interest.

Normally I’d agree. But because of the nature and timing of how Harris became the nominee, I think there’s a huge segment of America that will tune in as this will be the first real chance to get to know Harris. She’ll have a massive platform to really introduce herself and her beliefs. People will tune into that and to have her do it without any pushback would be a fucking boon as well. 

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2 minutes ago, Dahobbs said:

That wasn't your full statement. I don't think anyone cares if neither single person debate garners a ton of interest. The optics are the same, Trump is afraid of actual debate. 

The conditionals of my statement haven't come true (or failed to come true).  Yes, right now it's a great offense to call Trump "scared", as I alluded.  He will be able to do the same if she doesn't show up for the FOX event. 

Does it matter?  I doubt it.  Personally, I think she should debate him, although I don't trust FOX to try to have a mixed-support crowd nor try to keep a lid on the circus.

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These Republican fuckers are giving up the game with their push for Shapiro. Sad that Enten also falls for it. 

Should Shapiro being Jewish be a negative?  Of course not. Will Republicans use it as a dividing force to muck up this entire election but take cover by blaming the left? Absolutely. 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Do we really want to invite this situation right now while trying to unite the party to win an election? 

Look, if we let childish purity tests stop us from voting for a fascist, it will be our fault when a fascist wins.

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Posted (edited)
4 minutes ago, BrickHorn said:

Look, if we let childish purity tests stop us from voting for a fascist AGAIN, it will be our fault when a fascist wins AGAIN.

FIFY. Been there, done that. 

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

These Republican fuckers are giving up the game with their push for Shapiro. Sad that Enten also falls for it. 

Should Shapiro being Jewish be a negative?  Of course not. Will Republicans use it as a dividing force to muck up this entire election but take cover by blaming the left? Absolutely. 

 

 

She should have stopped him right at “the left is washing anti-semitism” and made him show his work, and then fucking referenced half a dozen posts from Elon musk 

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8 hours ago, bluto said:

Pence didn’t really deliver them, Trump had the evangies wrapped up all the way back in primaries when Falwell among others signed on to kill off Cruz. I remember my late hardcore southern bap grandparents  talking up Trump at Christmas of ‘15. 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2016/01/26/politics/donald-trump-jerry-falwell-jr-endorsement

Falwell only signed on because Michael Cohen agreed to "handle" the person that knew that Falwell jacked off in the corner while the Cuban cabana boy fucked his wife

1 hour ago, Js1 said:

Oh look, the black woman has expensive jewelry!


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It was a gift from Doug, and we all know that Doug would NEVER pay retail!

20 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

These Republican fuckers are giving up the game with their push for Shapiro. Sad that Enten also falls for it. 

Should Shapiro being Jewish be a negative?  Of course not. Will Republicans use it as a dividing force to muck up this entire election but take cover by blaming the left? Absolutely. 

 

 

I tuned into fox news the other day, and there was a consensus that Harris would be CRAZY to pick anyone other than Shapiro.

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13 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

She should have stopped him right at “the left is washing anti-semitism” and made him show his work, and then fucking referenced half a dozen posts from Elon musk 

It’s Kaitlin. She lets anyone just spew shit as long as she gets to ask questions in a certain tone to make herself feel better. 

When Stacey Abrams called her out live the other day, she got visibly angry. 

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21 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

These Republican fuckers are giving up the game with their push for Shapiro. Sad that Enten also falls for it. 

Should Shapiro being Jewish be a negative?  Of course not. Will Republicans use it as a dividing force to muck up this entire election but take cover by blaming the left? Absolutely. 

 

 

Republican Talking heads if Shapiro isn't the VP choice- The left is anti-semitic and hates Jews.  Vote for Trump because he loves a good Jew.

Republican Talking heads if Shapiro is the VP choice- Do you want a Jew globalist controlled by Soros one heartbeat away from the presidency?  Vote for Trump because he loves a good Jew. 

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16 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

She should have stopped him right at “the left is washing anti-semitism” and made him show his work, and then fucking referenced half a dozen posts from Elon musk 

Apparently it's "anti-Semitic" when people want one country to stop trying to erase another country (both full of Semitic people, by the way).

"Measured response" is anathema to these morons.

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6 minutes ago, Pancho said:

It’s Kaitlin. She lets anyone just spew shit as long as she gets to ask questions in a certain tone to make herself feel better. 

When Stacey Abrams called her out live the other day, she got visibly angry. 

In all fairness, Kaitlin is kinda dim.  She's the Wolf Blitzer of CNN's distaff posse.

 

 

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2 minutes ago, Beantown Express 2.0 said:

Republican Talking heads if Shapiro isn't the VP choice- The left is anti-semitic and hates Jews.  Vote for Trump because he loves a good Jew.

Republican Talking heads if Shapiro is the VP choice- Do you want a Jew globalist controlled by Soros one heartbeat away from the presidency?  Vote for Trump because he loves a good Jew. 

Exactly, they will twist and contort any scenario to fit what angers the gumps that watch that shit non stop anyway. Fuck what they think 

#teamwalz

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2 hours ago, Js1 said:

Oh look, the black woman has expensive jewelry!


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You'd be surprised how many women hate one women celebrities who are flashy.  Men and male celebrities don't do this.

I follow Kendal Toole on IG and she had a post once about her monthly budget and said she spent like $3,500 on food.  (Never mind she makes a ton of money and her brand is a professional athlete/model.)  The blowback she got from women posters was surprising.  

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

 

 

She didn’t include a link in her tweet. I went to nytimes.com…this was the headline I saw:

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If I go to:

https://www.nytimes.com/section/politics

I see the same headline (with preview text):

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Here’s the link to the article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/03/us/politics/trump-harris-debate-fox-news.html

It begins:

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Former President Donald J. Trump said late Friday that he agreed with Fox News to debate Vice President Kamala Harris on Sept. 4. If it happens, it would be the second presidential debate this election cycle and the first between Mr. Trump and the new Democratic candidate.

According to Mr. Trump’s post on his social media site, Truth Social, the debate would take place at a to-be-determined location in Pennsylvania, one of the most consequential battleground states. Fox News anchors Bret Baier and Martha MacCallum would moderate.

It was unclear early Saturday whether Ms. Harris had agreed to the debate and its terms. Representatives of her campaign did not respond to requests for comment. A spokeswoman for Fox News also did not respond to questions.

I don’t know who Amy Fried is but if her reporting on the headline was accurate then that wording apparently didn’t last long. 

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