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Posted
31 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Here's the thing....there's a very good chance that many of these stories are true/contain truth.  Why?

Because IT'S A FUCKING CULT.  So, is it credible that a cult member would approach the cult's diety, and be overwhelmed by the emotion of the moment? YEP.  Is it credible that they would tell tales to the cult diety to ingratiate themselves with their god?  YEP.  Might these tales be only loosely based on reality (cabinet maker is actually teetering on the edge of bankruptcy, but that's just because of woke DEI communism; the only reason he's still in business is them there tariffs, even though the cabinet maker has no idea how they figure in to things)?  YEP.

In other words, the underlying message is utter bullshit, but the event -- nutbar teary-eyed cult member tells cult deity some bullshit tale -- may have some real truth to it.

I don't think the tears are from people overcome with emotion. I think it comes from when they get a whiff of his odor.

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Insulted right to his face and:

1. He's too stupid to realize it

2. He's too infatuated with his own narcissism that he can't pause getting his dumbfuck thought out that he likely thinks is genius

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Posted
31 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

So my precinct had a turnout of 8k in 2020, at a percentage of 60% Republican, or 4800 votes.  If we pick up 5 percent that's 400 votes, just my precinct.  I live in a district with close to 200k votes.  2020 the totals were approximately 120k votes, if we cut in 5 points its 110k votes, negating the state total by 10k.  That's a big deal.  

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Posted
29 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

He's got the looks for it.  All he's missing is a club foot. 

I'm betting he has one of those in his freezer. 

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Posted
3 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I had to walk into my meeting, but the Bloomberg/ECC interview was getting wild when I took out my earbuds. He was busy telling Bloomberg‘S EIC that he had been “wrong” his whole career about tariffs. 

Yep. His rambling 'weave' and blatant disregard for trying to stay on topic is just a beating. The guy simply cannot just give a direct answer to a direct question. Period. He's all over the place, weaving 6 stories into a response that goes nowhere near answering the question. If anyone wants to hear what a word salad really sounds like, just go listen to that crap. Even if I liked the guy & his idiotic ideas, listening to him for any length of time would still be an absolute mind-numbing beating. Loved seeing John try to keep him on task and challenge his economic ideas, to which Trump would respond with "the others who made trade agreements before me were all idiots or corrupt", and "you've been wrong your whole life". 

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4 minutes ago, wood said:

 salad really sounds like, just go listen to that crap. Even if I liked the guy & his idiotic ideas, listening to him for any length of time would still be an absolute mind-numbing beating. Loved seeing Joh

 

See, that is where you are wrong.  People have tears in their eyes just from listening to him.  He can do no wrong.  Just ask them.

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Posted

Dem strategy seems to be to juice turnout on the first day of early voting -

Obama will open up early voting in Las Vegas, Harris will open up early voting in Detroit, Walz/Obama will open up early voting in Madison

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Posted
3 hours ago, Tuco said:

I also doubt he played tight end.  It wasn't really a position until the 50s, and I doubt you would have seen it much at the high school level.  It is also unlikely there were many players lifting weights.  My stepdad played for the Cornhuskers in the early 50s and weightlifting was prohibited for fear of making the players "muscle bound."    

So yeah, all of that is just bullshit he invented on the spot based on what he understand about football today. 

Dead giveaway was when he hesitated, saying "I was a tight, uh .... a tight end".

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Posted
7 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Well, I literally had a nightmare last night that TFG won the election with a national popular vote margin of 50-45 (5 went to dipshit third party types).  Utterly fucking depressing.  And THEN, it got weird.  On election night, after all the parties wound down, he was occupying a shared suite -- like, we shared a bathroom -- with me and my crew.  The horrific part: he left the bathroom door open, and we saw his saggy old ass.  The great part: my crew was two attractive women, and they were not shy about prancing around the room with no clothes on.  So I'm petty sure I suggested a threesome to get the horrible evening's events out of our minds, and they enthusiastically agreed.

So, turned a nightmare into a pretty nice scenario.  Sometimes I'm not sure what to do with my subconscious mind.

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11 minutes ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

Because I hate myself, I copy/pasted the response and asked chatGPT to rate how he answered that question:

Spoiler

I would rate the response poorly based on the following criteria:

  1. Empathy and Acknowledgment (2/10😞
    The response does not directly address the woman’s concern about inflation and the high cost of groceries, which was the core of her question. While the speaker does eventually mention prices, it comes too late and lacks a direct, empathetic acknowledgment of the struggles American families are facing.

  2. Clarity of Plan (2/10😞
    There is no clear, structured plan for addressing inflation or reducing grocery costs. The response meanders between different topics, from farming to border control, without offering specific policies to combat rising prices.

  3. Feasibility and Relevance (3/10😞
    Some references to farming and trade could have relevance to inflation but are not tied together coherently. The focus shifts quickly to other unrelated topics like immigration and crime, diluting the response's relevance to the issue at hand.

  4. Tone and Delivery (3/5):
    The tone is scattered and includes tangents that detract from the main topic. While it attempts to be conversational, it lacks the focused reassurance that a question on inflation would require.

  5. Vision and Confidence (2/5):
    The response does not convey a strong vision or confidence about how inflation will be tackled. It provides no sense of direction or concrete future steps.

Total Score: 12/40

In summary, the response is unfocused, strays into unrelated issues, and fails to offer a clear plan to address the pressing concern of inflation. It also lacks the empathy and directness that the question calls for.

ChatGPT feels like a pretty charitable grader to be honest. 

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Posted
Just now, UncleSonny said:

Because I hate myself, I copy/pasted the response and asked chatGPT to rate how he answered that question:

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I would rate the response poorly based on the following criteria:

  1. Empathy and Acknowledgment (2/10😞
    The response does not directly address the woman’s concern about inflation and the high cost of groceries, which was the core of her question. While the speaker does eventually mention prices, it comes too late and lacks a direct, empathetic acknowledgment of the struggles American families are facing.

  2. Clarity of Plan (2/10😞
    There is no clear, structured plan for addressing inflation or reducing grocery costs. The response meanders between different topics, from farming to border control, without offering specific policies to combat rising prices.

  3. Feasibility and Relevance (3/10😞
    Some references to farming and trade could have relevance to inflation but are not tied together coherently. The focus shifts quickly to other unrelated topics like immigration and crime, diluting the response's relevance to the issue at hand.

  4. Tone and Delivery (3/5):
    The tone is scattered and includes tangents that detract from the main topic. While it attempts to be conversational, it lacks the focused reassurance that a question on inflation would require.

  5. Vision and Confidence (2/5):
    The response does not convey a strong vision or confidence about how inflation will be tackled. It provides no sense of direction or concrete future steps.

Total Score: 12/40

In summary, the response is unfocused, strays into unrelated issues, and fails to offer a clear plan to address the pressing concern of inflation. It also lacks the empathy and directness that the question calls for.

ChatGPT feels like a pretty charitable grader to be honest. 

Ha, then I asked it to guess who said it:

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Based on the style, tone, and content of the response, it seems likely to have been said by former President Donald Trump. The response includes several hallmarks of his speaking style, such as:

  • Tangents: The response veers into unrelated topics like immigration, crime, and border security, which are common themes in Trump’s rhetoric.
  • Conversational tone: The casual, somewhat meandering approach, with interjections like "Hannibal Lecter" and mentions of "fake news," is characteristic of his off-the-cuff speaking style.
  • Frequent shifts in focus: Instead of directly addressing the question about inflation, the speaker shifts to topics like trade with China, farmers, and immigration.

All these elements are consistent with how Trump often addresses questions in a broader, less focused manner.

sad that AI it just another member of the liberal media 

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Posted
1 hour ago, BamaATL said:

So my precinct had a turnout of 8k in 2020, at a percentage of 60% Republican, or 4800 votes.  If we pick up 5 percent that's 400 votes, just my precinct.  I live in a district with close to 200k votes.  2020 the totals were approximately 120k votes, if we cut in 5 points its 110k votes, negating the state total by 10k.  That's a big deal.  

You know your precinct better than we do. There's no substitute for what you personally witnessed in line today. I just hope that those percentages improve because high turnout in Trump precincts, without knowing anything else about that turnout, sounds like bad news.

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1 minute ago, chainsaw said:

You know your precinct better than we do. There's no substitute for what you personally witnessed in line today. I just hope that those percentages improve because high turnout in Trump precincts, without knowing anything else about that turnout, sounds like bad news.

The Dem turnout was huge today, Republican stagnant.  

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4 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

You know your precinct better than we do. There's no substitute for what you personally witnessed in line today. I just hope that those percentages improve because high turnout in Trump precincts, without knowing anything else about that turnout, sounds like bad news.

I love how everyone reading his post misses the fucking headline - you DO know something else about that turnout, he told you....it's not about how many people are turning out, it's about the BREAKDOWN of people who are turning out, and how it's different:

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Also, unscientifically and just from observation, the crowd skewed markedly younger in comparison from 2020, I would guess down from an average age of 60sih then to roughly 50ish this time.  Overheard in line behind several Republicans, "This doesn't look good."  Lots of women, lots, by my guess approximately 2 to 1.  So younger, more women, about the same amount of racial diversity.  Lots less olds, lots.  

Younger, more heavily female than before.  Geez, I am FAR from the sunshine pumper around here, but the post itself is sharing good news, not a message of "more Trump voters in my Trumpy precinct are showing up than last time."

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Posted
5 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

The Dem turnout was huge today, Republican stagnant.  

Are the registration statistics of the people who actually showed up today going to be published today?

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Just now, Js1 said:

I mean, sharing anecdotes is good and people should.  The nerds at Target Smart and the UF project will break down the numbers by party/age/sex, so we can just wait for that.

I just don't understand why someone saying "turnout was super high in my precinct and skewed younger" is immediately met with "okay BUT...."

Like god damn, let people live.

There ya go, folks -- if Js1 and I agree on a proper take like we do here, hell done froze over.

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8 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

Are the registration statistics of the people who actually showed up today going to be published today?

Not to my knowledge, but I think I've been a little confusing on what I'm saying so, here goes.  The numbers I was referencing were along the lines that if the same amount of people voted as last time, we would peel off 5% of a district Republican's know they have to have to make Georgia even competitive (Atlanta is a steamroller, they have to have the margins, and my district is a margin).  They will run it up in rural counties and districts, but with very small total numbers.  What I saw today was a massive uptick in likely Dem voters, whereas Republicans were very stagnant or subdued.  Extremely encouraging, not because I think we will win my district (that would be great to tell treason tour guide Barry Loudermilk to hit the bricks) but because we are going to eat the margin they desperately need.  

Since 2 today, I have received three texts from Loudermilk's campaign (something that has never happened, by the way, not once the election has actually started, I get run of the mill campaign shit prior every year) each about getting out to vote.  What that tells me is there own internal people are worried, again, probably not for Loudermilk, but for the margins.  

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5 minutes ago, BamaATL said:

Not to my knowledge, but I think I've been a little confusing on what I'm saying so, here goes.  The numbers I was referencing were along the lines that if the same amount of people voted as last time, we would peel off 5% of a district Republican's know they have to have to make Georgia even competitive (Atlanta is a steamroller, they have to have the margins, and my district is a margin).  They will run it up in rural counties and districts, but with very small total numbers.  What I saw today was a massive uptick in likely Dem voters, whereas Republicans were very stagnant or subdued.  Extremely encouraging, not because I think we will win my district (that would be great to tell treason tour guide Barry Loudermilk to hit the bricks) but because we are going to eat the margin they desperately need.  

Since 2 today, I have received three texts from Loudermilk's campaign (something that has never happened, by the way, not once the election has actually started, I get run of the mill campaign shit prior every year) each about getting out to vote.  What that tells me is there own internal people are worried, again, probably not for Loudermilk, but for the margins.  

I am gruntled.

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Wanted to call that out because I think you're on to something, and you're on to the different ways different people/worldviews react.

Imagine you are a non-black person invited to the classic "black people barbecue."

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There are a shitload of people who would be intimidate and freaked out about that.  And I mean more than the "well, I'm going to something I'm not entirely culturally familiar with."  I mean, flipped out thinking "no way will I go to that."  Other folks -- and I'd venture to guess most people on this board -- might have some nervousness about going to something that isn't the scene/cultural dynamic they're most used to, but they'd also think "but I bet the grub is going to be tasty as shit and it will be a DAMNED good time."

Appy that to an invitation to a quinceañera, a bar mitzvah, dinner at a mostly white country club, etc., for someone who is not a member of the dominant cultural group there.  A lot of people will freak out.  A lot of other people will be excited to try something different and have a good time with new people.  I'm betting that if you did an experiment where you rated people on their level of discomfort/willingness to attend such events, and then asked about their political preferences, there would be a healthy correlation to political preferences as well (not 100%, but a solid correlation).

The hell of it is, over my life, I've seen many of those "Trumpy" types (who aren't comfortable being surrounded by people of other races) end up at such events....and they end up having a fucking blast as their fear/resistance breaks down.  Meaning that we are heavily divided by and told to fear people by people who are selling lies, and want us at each other's throats.  At the end of the day, almost all of us would end up happy as hell after spending a day at a barbecue with people of a different race/subculture, if the people who stoke the fear and hate machines would just shut the fuck up.

Which is why I want Donald Trump to die, ASAP, so badly.  The moment he chokes on a Big Mac will be the greatest day ever.

I think other races are used to this because we are in it on the daily. My people are 14%. Even less where I live. Even less less where I work. So going to a gathering where I am the only black person is just another Tuesday. Same with most non-whites.

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After watching clips of that interview in Chicago today, can we just outsource our media to the British? They do a much better job of holding politicians accountable.

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Posted
7 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

I think other races are used to this because we are in it on the daily. My people are 14%. Even less where I live. Even less less where I work. So going to a gathering where I am the only black person is just another Tuesday. Same with most non-whites.

Absolutely.  Minorities (as in "an actual minority of the local population") have to figure that out quickly.  And it can be uncomfortable as hell, particularly because the overall dominant group (in the US, that's historically been white people) doesn't even realize if they're being unfriendly/not welcoming to a minority.  Whereas minorities are acutely away of what it feels like to be an "outsider," so they can be more welcoming.  Sure, you're gonna get some "white boy" cracks at the black people barbecue.....but odds are, they're going to be funny and well-intentioned.  Whereas a minority showing up at the country club dinner....the crowd might not be so well-intentioned.

With the obvious caveat that every crowd and dynamic is different, there's no universal truth: a white dude can be treated like shit at a black people barbecue, and a white country club crowd can be amazing hosts to minority guests.  We're speaking in generalities here.  

But to your point, just understanding that to be a black person in Whiteville USA is to spend every day as just a little bit of an outsider.  So, maybe try to understand and have some empathy for that -- imagine being a white dude in a 95% black community, every day for the rest of your life.

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23 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

Hmmm.  Montana:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

50-60k isn't going to do much to the presidential level (Trump won by 100k) but Bullock only lost by 61k in 2020.  And Tester is an incumbent. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Hiphopopotamos said:

 

You know what's great about that?  I posted it on FB because we totally know that will change everyone's mind but, honestly, I do feel like a lot of his passive "he's a Republican so he gets my vote" supporters don't realize the things he says.  It is simple.  The question is asked and there is a transcript of the answer.  No commentary.  Just the answer.  If just enough doubt can be sowed to get someone to either switch their vote or simply not vote, it is a victory.  Honestly, sowing apathy onto their side is a win.

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Posted
3 hours ago, shakahorn said:

Trump's answers remind me of a smartass comment I make whenever anyone tells me "I got a question for you."  I say, I have an answer, it might not be the right answer, it might not be the answer you want to hear, it might not even make any sense, but I always got an answer.

Sounds like Mrs. Wood (no pics). She'll make up absolutely insane, impossibly wrong shit before she'll ever say "Sorry, I don't know". 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

Other folks -- and I'd venture to guess most people on this board -- might have some nervousness about going to something that isn't the scene/cultural dynamic they're most used to, but they'd also think "but I bet the grub is going to be tasty as shit and it will be a DAMNED good time."

Nah man... invite me over.  We were tubing over Memorial Day Weekend at one of those son's river places and I really really wanted every massive Mexican family cookout to invite me over. Then again, I speak Spanish and I'm all about going to Mexican meat markets because they have the best marinated meat.  Racist while people are dumbasses.  Not only are they dumbasses because they are racists (duh) but they are missing out.  More for me.

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4 hours ago, mdmost said:

Because it doesn't matter when you can spin anything into "they're tough on me" or "this guy has never liked me" and make it a grievance. That's all he plays to now. The grievances of men, white women, olds, and younger voters that are assholes. 

There you go



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