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13 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

This is very simplistic, but this is my take. Trump was always bad Trump, but only recently has he become clearly crazy deranged, even more racist, and authoritarian and vengeful.  Only recently does he wander around for 20 minutes dancing on stage and talk about Palmer’s genitals.

We got a look at this in 2020 and said, “no thank you.”.  Even though the cult does not care what he does, I have to think that the growing number of independents look at that and think about how much they want four more years of it.    

The short version is I think that crazy dementia Trump will turn off enough independents that those numbers will shift even more Democratic than 2020.  5% maybe. 

That’s not a bad take but I think the country is more racist, dumb, and disengaged than you are factoring in. 

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Just now, CTC2 said:

That’s not a bad take but I think the country is more racist, dumb, and disengaged than you are factoring in. 

You are entirely correct. That is my optimistic take. That includes four years of dirt napping Trump fans who did not get Covid vaccinations, and four years of new 18 to 22 year-old voters…and some abortion ballot referendums. 

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2 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

Religion is far too important to a huge portion of this country that you can't avoid them mixing. You cannot win without playing up the God card and motivating the religious group. 

And the fact that their new Jesus is orange makes that all the more crazy. 

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I’m in Snohomish co, haven’t looked at demos to see if local races are competitive or not and in which direction.  Got my ballot yesterday and will be completing it today. 
 
Further color for WA state registration, you can register online until like 5 days before Election Day and then in person only thru Election Day. I assume this is a fraud prevention measure.  I think Texas and others are dumb and unconstitutional for having registration dates so far out.  Every citizen in the country should have the opportunity to register up through Election Day, even if it becomes increasingly inconvenient to do so as that date approaches.  Encourage early registration, allow for late. 

Columbia City here.

One the craziest things when the state government has decided to get the public more power: “democracy vouchers”. I think it is $100 in vouchers they give to every voter that you can pledge for any campaign. (Maybe just local races.). It means anybody, regardless of their personal wealth or backing, can gather enough seed money to get a campaign rolling if they connect with enough voters. Trying to level the playing field.
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18 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Amazing that Trump/Cruz have nothing besides punching down on Trans people. 
 

fucking losers. 

I mean, yeah.  But I care so much about women's sports that I have to vote for the rapist.

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7 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

saw a few maga hats around the tailgate yesterday. frustratingly all Texas fans.

Somebody yelled “more like FAGA!” at the one person I saw in a MAGA hat at the Fair last Monday.  Not suggesting that you should do the same. 

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4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:


Watched the first half of the UT game at Turnstile bar yesterday (crowd was UT and Austin FC fans). Pregame, they showed celebs at the game. Crowd didn’t react till Joe Rogan was on-screen, then it was a chorus of spontaneous boos. Was nice to hear, made my wife and me smile.

Heartwarming, honestly 

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1 hour ago, BrickHorn said:

Soul Pole?

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So cool that both of my boys played baseball games at that field. And I almost forgot, I coached there as well.

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I was out yesterday and saw a woman wearing a fucking red hat with the white letters on the front.  I had an immediate internal reaction, and probably had some kind of grimace on my face as she approached.  Then, as she got closer, I read her hat:

"MAKE AMERICA SANE AGAIN"

I smiled at her, and nodded my head in appreciation.  Of course the joke is probably on me, she may have been full blown MAGA and that's an alternative slogan they are still workshopping.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I was out yesterday and saw a woman wearing a fucking red hat with the white letters on the front.  I had an immediate internal reaction, and probably had some kind of grimace on my face as she approached.  Then, as she got closer, I read her hat:

"MAKE AMERICA SANE AGAIN"

I smiled at her, and nodded my head in appreciation.  Of course the joke is probably on me, she may have been full blown MAGA and that's an alternative slogan they are still workshopping.

 

 

I do love people taking back the red hat. The best is Make America Gay Again but Sane is good too. 

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38 minutes ago, Longhorn_Fan68 said:

saw a few maga hats around the tailgate yesterday. frustratingly all Texas fans.

It's a pet peeve of mine, red and burnt orange should never be worn together. Not just because OU, Arkansas, Bama, Tech, Ohio St, Nebraska, Georgia and most of all Maga suck but just because it looks terrible.

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24 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

I’m not bedwetting and I realize this board doesn’t love Nate Silver, but I don’t disagree with any of these.   Harris has done well, but she was an underdog from the beginning and Trump understands his audience well. Meanwhile the Democrat consultant class doesn’t really understand and can’t relate to either his audience or the bulk of their own.

So you are blaming the possibility of Trump being elected on campaign consultants as opposed to just accepting that 40% of our population is just racist or dumb?  Ignoring the fact that all you have to do is turn on the tv and see R’s only agenda is making the electorate fearful and playing on the human tendency to always wanting to believe that someone is lesser than them?  Not sure that I buy that. 

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7 minutes ago, CTC2 said:

So you are blaming the possibility of Trump being elected on campaign consultants as opposed to just accepting that 40% of our population is just racist or dumb?

Oh, absolutely. First, even if I accepted your premise, that’s only 40%. Even if you take them off the table you’re still working with a healthy majority. Second, if they are the dumb ones, and you can’t convince them to vote for you, what does that make you?

Winning elections is their first and only job. The business of campaigns is sales and marketing and nothing beyond that matters if they don’t succeed at that part of it.

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3 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Oh, absolutely. First, even if I accepted your premise, that’s only 40%. Even if you take them off the table you’re still working with a healthy majority. Second, if they are the dumb ones, and you can’t convince them to vote for you, what does that make you?

Winning elections is their first and only job. The business of campaigns is sales and marketing and nothing beyond that matters if they don’t succeed at that part of it.

You are absolutely correct here.

 

I do take exception to a few things on his list, the economy and the very strange notion the country shifted rightward, but I agree overall.

 

I certainly like reports enthusiasm for Trump is down in other areas, but I can tell you it's through the roof here. I've never seen this much Trump shit out.

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I was out yesterday and saw a woman wearing a fucking red hat with the white letters on the front.  I had an immediate internal reaction, and probably had some kind of grimace on my face as she approached.  Then, as she got closer, I read her hat:

"MAKE AMERICA SANE AGAIN"

I smiled at her, and nodded my head in appreciation.  Of course the joke is probably on me, she may have been full blown MAGA and that's an alternative slogan they are still workshopping.

 

 

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Keep your eyes on Kaufman County this fall. Yes Trump won it 66/32 in 2020 but it saw a 13 point swing in favor of Democrats. That was the largest increase in the entire state (and if I remember correctly, it was the second largest swing for any county in the entire nation). Do you know what Texas county saw the largest increase in voter registrations since November 2020? Kaufman County. 

I don't think it would flip blue but any close election should cause Republicans to panic big time. Even a 59/41 is panic worthy for the GOP. A Republican hasn't dropped below 60% in KC since 1996 (although that was also a three man presidential race, if it was two man that election would be 1988).

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2 hours ago, Doc Sam Beckett said:

Many people say, look I haven't seen it myself, but the guys at the club say it's at least this big. That's how Arnie's Army started. 

 

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Homeboy literally dressed up as Ronald McDonald:

Orange hair

Make-up

White collar with the red tie.

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They played some post-McDonald's Dotard comments on MSNBC. He was talking about how offensive it is that Harris keeps lying about having worked at McDonald's. Then the anchor just moved on to the next thing without mentioning any of it.

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Just now, G650 said:

I do take exception to a few things on his list, the economy and the very strange notion the country shifted rightward, but I agree overall.

What Democrats forgot in the mid-90s is that an economy experiencing a wealth and consumption expansion at the top without an income expansion in the middle is experienced as a shitty economy by most people, and offering them safety net programs as a solution adds insult to injury.

There is not better single example of the disconnect between Democrats and the middle class than their genuine confusion about this fact. You can’t treat middle class people like poor people. They didn’t fail, the economy is rigged against them and their standard of living has collapsed over the last 15 years, after a slow decline during the previous 35.  Can you really blame some of them for wanting to give Democrats a big fuck you? As much as they have lost - defined benefit pensions, market rate affordable healthcare and housing and cars, vacations, savings, good public schools, dignity, community, humanity, etc- can you blame them for being angry when the latest career politician grin-fucks them with drivel like “Im going to create an opportunity economy?”

and then they go on TV and instagram and see a world full of healthier, more popular, better looking richer people everywhere they look. And their friends are using social media to curate their lives, and they start doing it too, but deep inside they know their lives are substandard. Because they are.

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1 hour ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

I was out yesterday and saw a woman wearing a fucking red hat with the white letters on the front.  I had an immediate internal reaction, and probably had some kind of grimace on my face as she approached.  Then, as she got closer, I read her hat:

"MAKE AMERICA SANE AGAIN"

I smiled at her, and nodded my head in appreciation.  Of course the joke is probably on me, she may have been full blown MAGA and that's an alternative slogan they are still workshopping.

 

 

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4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

What Democrats forgot in the mid-90s is that an economy experiencing a wealth and consumption expansion at the top

I mean, completely set aside the top. The working class have seen their only relative gains in almost 50 years vis a vis the middle and upper class. It's just not remotely accurate to say.

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Holy shit there are 10 choices for potus/vp on my ballot. I guess if a person wants to vote for a pair that matches all of their views, they could likely do so in Washington. 
 

Also in the voter pamphlet Trump listed 45th president of the United States under both elected experience and community service. 

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18 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Can you really blame some of them for wanting to give Democrats a big fuck you?

When a huge chunk wanting to give Democrats a big fuck you voted for the Overton Window set by the Reagan Revolution which has had the generational effects Democrats said it would, yes. 

How that factors into an election strategy and how you convince people in "I'm Voting For The Felon" t-shirts they've been conned, I dunno. But yes, you can blame the people who have repeatedly voted against their own interests. 

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10 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

Holy shit there are 10 choices for potus/vp on my ballot. I guess if a person wants to vote for a pair that matches all of their views, they could likely do so in Washington. 
 

Also in the voter pamphlet Trump listed 45th president of the United States under both elected experience and community service. 

he did donate his salary after all!

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1 hour ago, Radical Larry said:

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They even had fake drive-through customers who rehearsed beforehand lol.

 

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