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Posted
23 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Didn't Trump do the RNC Acceptance speech from the fucking South Lawn of the WHite House? 

Just for the record, the Hatch Act excludes the President and Vice President from its prohibitions.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just for the record, the Hatch Act excludes the President and Vice President from its prohibitions.

It's semantics. They're still going to bitch about it. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Just for the record, the Hatch Act excludes the President and Vice President from its prohibitions.

But the Hatch Chile Act only excludes pussy-ass midwesterners and yankees from engaging in the deliciousness that is green chile grits, green chile pork stew, green chile cheeseburgers.  Can't handle spice?  you don't even DESERVE to be a swing state.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, Horn Dog said:

You did see the "IF YOU COULD ISOLATE THE TRUMP VOTING" part of the sentence right?  The listing the various minority/discriminated groups was not a "quiet our loud" statement, but rather to highlight individuals in groups voting for incredibly bad things that will directly affect them,  which they have every right to do, but I have a right to not feel bad for their subsequent consequences (again if those consequences could be isolated ONLY to trump voters). Now obviously you can't actually isolate the TRUMP VOTING portion of those groups, and there will be many more innocents in those groups who will suffer if his policies are actually enacted which I obviously could never support, so it was really just theoretical that probably should have just been left in my thoughts instead of posted.  I am sure the point will get lost, and the statement will be viewed as a bigoted comment, but it was simply a expression of frustration of incredibly ill informed members of our electorate. 

sorry didn't see that. I apologize.

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Posted

firewall guy says 1.95M total likely.  If current rates of return end up getting us to 1.95, you end up with this:

1188430 D

569416.3 R

192153.7 I

D - R + .4 I = 695,875 firewall.  That seems so easy beyond the 500k firewall needed that i wonder if i'm doing something wrong. 

 

(".4" I based on assumed 70-30 D split on I's.  even a 50-50 split on I's gives you 619,013 firewall)

Posted
2 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

But the Hatch Chile Act only excludes pussy-ass midwesterners and yankees from engaging in the deliciousness that is green chile grits, green chile pork stew, green chile cheeseburgers.  Can't handle spice?  you don't even DESERVE to be a swing state.

Tangentially related, I had a Dutch dude two weeks ago tell me their mustard meant they could handle spice. 🤣

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Posted
Just now, Pancho said:

 

Madison and Milwaukee gonna win it for Harris.  Even more so if the WOW counties vote like they did earlier this year with the referendums. 

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Posted
Just now, Js1 said:

Madison and Milwaukee gonna win it for Harris.  Even more so if the WOW counties vote like they did earlier this year with the referendums. 

 

those milwaukee burbs really really do not like black people 

Posted
2 hours ago, Red Five said:

Seems unlikely that she would need the 6 from Nevada to push her over 270. I guess a weird combination of swing state results could in theory do it. Just the thought of it being that close just raised my blood pressure.

Nevada comes into play if Trump wins Arizona. If Trump wins Arizona, assuming Harris wins WI & MI, Harris cant win with GA or NC alone. They only get her to 267. In the scenario her winning NV & Trump winning AZ, she can win with any one of PA, NC, or GA. 

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Posted
7 minutes ago, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

firewall guy says 1.95M total likely.  If current rates of return end up getting us to 1.95, you end up with this:

1188430 D

569416.3 R

192153.7 I

D - R + .4 I = 695,875 firewall.  That seems so easy beyond the 500k firewall needed that i wonder if i'm doing something wrong. 

 

(".4" I based on assumed 70-30 D split on I's.  even a 50-50 split on I's gives you 619,013 firewall)

Never mind the above.

"If current rates of return" is the issue.  The current rates can't continue until 1.95 M are returned.  You'd end up with more D ballots returned than issued.  

Posted
2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

those milwaukee burbs really really do not like black people 

They are and have been the most stubborn suburbs in the country.  

Just now, HenryJames said:

How tall is he?

6'8 lol

Posted
1 hour ago, henrygandorf said:

re: the bombshell, there is absolutely nothing that is "campaign ending", so people (journos) need to stop being drama queens. the election is in 13 days, millions of votes are out. if campaign ending means he's going to lose, well there's a pretty good chance of that happening anyway.

anything that is audio of him or even video (grainy) of him will be dismissed as a deep fake, and honestly should be at this point. i don't even want something like that dropping, because it'll be more noise and make maga angry. we need maga docile and stupid and sitting in the corner jerking off to shitty polls.

the only story that would move the needle is something about him selling state secrets, and i'm not even sure how that gets proven, because most of us already assumed he was doing that. dude stole classified documents and hid them and refused to give them back for months and months and still has some and nobody even fucking talks about it anymore. he called kamala a "shit vp" at a rally a few days ago and nobody even covered it.

it would have to involve "selling out america" and probably would need to include russia or china. so whatever that looks like, that's what this is. and whatever it is would barely get media attention because trump.

once he loses, it'll trickle out, and people will say little, because at this point, who gives a shit.

 

Counterpoint: Fuck 'em, let 'em froth. 

 

Posted
1 hour ago, SydneyCarton said:

I think the right wing media is already at battle stations becuase whoever has this shit was shopping it for a payday, and Trump declined. 

Then it can’t sink him. If it could and he was offered to pay to make it go away, Elon would have bought it. 

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Posted
13 minutes ago, Bateshorn said:

Tangentially related, I had a Dutch dude two weeks ago tell me their mustard meant they could handle spice. 🤣

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Yeah.  They're fucking pathetic.  When my daughter lived in Sweden, her flatmates would bitch about her cooking because it used a lot of onions and "onions are spicy."  Pathetic.

5 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

Whatever.  Laws don't apply to billionaires, especially white ones.  Late-stage capitalist oligarchy out front shoulda told ya.

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Posted (edited)
9 minutes ago, heso said:

Nevada comes into play if Trump wins Arizona. If Trump wins Arizona, assuming Harris wins WI & MI, Harris cant win with GA or NC alone. They only get her to 267. In the scenario her winning NV & Trump winning AZ, she can win with any one of PA, NC, or GA. 

Yep, she's at 251 if she wins MI/WI.  Then she needs:

PA  (exactly 270)
GA + NC (283)
One of GA/NC + AZ (278)
NV + any one of PA/NC/GA (273-276) 

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Posted (edited)
22 hours ago, chainsaw said:

He has no paths if he loses NC, right?

Stop me if you've heard this, but the word is Pennsylvania.

8 hours ago, Chuckie Finster said:


I mean this genuinely, how do we function as a society when we have people like Vance openly stating that he wants to eliminate the WAY HIS WIFE BECAME A CITIZEN and there’s no pushback, no news stories, no controversy. Just business as usual and follow the cult leader at all costs.

Look around. We don't. We're past the point of no return on that. Even if Harris wins this election, Democrats and their coalition aare going to have to hold the line every time. Obviously it will break at some point, be it in 2024, 28, 32, whatever. And when it does we'll get Project XXXX.

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That'll have him shaking in his boots!

Who does the Justice Department consult about what's illegal? Seems like they might have a few guys on the payroll to help with that determination. How much nut-thumbing on this one?

No rush, of course.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, heso said:

Then it can’t sink him. If it could and he was offered to pay to make it go away, Elon would have bought it. 

I didn't say it was going to sink him. I said the media will mostly ignore it. 

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Honest question… whats to stop Elon from just going dumb and dumber tipping scene to ppl walking into polling place, literally $100 bill stack peeling em off on Election Day. He gets charged/arrested but Trump wins bc of it (say Elon drops $50M into the operation), Trump pardons him bc federal crime. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, gmr548 said:

Stop me if you've heard this, but the word is Pennsylvania.

Look around. We don't. We're past the point of no return on that. Even if Harris wins this election, Democrats and their coalition aare going to have to hold the line every time. Obviously it will break at some point, be it in 2024, 28, 32, whatever. And when it does we'll get Project XXXX.

Theoretically, it should get easier to hold the line every 4 years if this fever breaks, which it might as more people die and more youngers vote. But you have to give the fever a chance to break, or just fucking quit. Personally, I'll take another 4 years to get closer to having the money to peace the fuck out. 

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Bateshorn said:

There's only one poll I care about, and it's the Final Selzer poll for Iowa.  Harris ain't winning Iowa, but if Ann Selzer has her competitive-ish, I'll feel pretty good.  If she shows Trump running away with it, then it's gonna be a nail biter for sure. 

This.

Selzer should drop the final poll on Nov 2 (or around then).  October 31 (the last Saturday before the election) was when she dropped the Trump +7 and Ernst +4 poll.  Trump won by 8.2 and Ernst won 6.6

She also had Trump +7 against HRC in 2016 and he won by 9.4

If she has Trump up only 3-5, hold onto your butts, because Harris is winning easily - probably a sign she's very strong in the upper Midwest and winning MI/WI/PA with ease.  6-7 points, it'll be more like 2020 in terms of closeness.  8+ - well fuck. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, bluto said:

Honest question… whats to stop Elon from just going dumb and dumber tipping scene to ppl walking into polling place, literally $100 bill stack peeling em off on Election Day. He gets charged/arrested but Trump wins bc of it (say Elon drops $50M into the operation), Trump pardons him bc federal crime. 

Because everyone would take the money and then vote for whoever the fuck they wanted to vote for...

Posted
1 hour ago, immamac said:

If someone is saying it will end his campaign I think it has something to do with straight up insurrection or activity that involved a foreign enemy.

Uh these have already happened and did nothing.

Nothing will come of it.

Posted
10 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah.  They're fucking pathetic.  When my daughter lived in Sweden, her flatmates would bitch about her cooking because it used a lot of onions and "onions are spicy."  Pathetic.

Whatever.  Laws don't apply to billionaires, especially white ones.  Late-stage capitalist oligarchy out front shoulda told ya.

Ahem...

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8 minutes ago, RomaVicta said:

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That'll have him shaking in his boots!

Who does the Justice Department consult about what's illegal? Seems like they might have a few guys on the payroll to help with that determination. How much nut-thumbing on this one?

No rush, of course.

Merrick basically line

I can be very persuasive. : r/TheSimpsons

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Posted
3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

glad to see her and her team are preparing for this

 

She ain’t stupid. She knows he did it once and he’d do it again 

Marc Elias better be getting a Medal of Freedom when she wins 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, gmr548 said:

Look around. We don't. We're past the point of no return on that. Even if Harris wins this election, Democrats and their coalition aare going to have to hold the line every time. Obviously it will break at some point, be it in 2024, 28, 32, whatever. And when it does we'll get Project XXXX.

See, I don't believe this. Politicians, above all else, are cockroaches. IF Trump gets his ass kicked in two weeks again, and MAGA candidates in purple states keep getting their teeth kicked in, the GOP will have to adapt. Look how much they're tried to distance themselves from Project 2025 WITH 100% MAGA support.

MAGA is a cult. You can't just replace David Koresh with some generic dude in a suit and expect to stay on message with enthusiasm up.

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Posted
19 hours ago, dieucla98 said:

Anyone that has to sign off on their tweet like it's an email is disqualified from any form of public conversation.

I agree.

 

 

Bernard

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Posted
9 minutes ago, Pancho said:

glad to see her and her team are preparing for this

 

 

5 minutes ago, Js1 said:

She ain’t stupid. She knows he did it once and he’d do it again 

Marc Elias better be getting a Medal of Freedom when she wins 

Elias has said he's been preparing for this shit for 6 months. Now, reports on the other side said that this time the Rs are also prepared and not going to half ass this shit, but nonetheless. Elias seems confident. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

See, I don't believe this. Politicians, above all else, are cockroaches. IF Trump gets his ass kicked in two weeks again, and MAGA candidates in purple states keep getting their teeth kicked in, the GOP will have to adapt. Look how much they're tried to distance themselves from Project 2025 WITH 100% MAGA support.

MAGA is a cult. You can't just replace David Koresh with some generic dude in a suit and expect to stay on message with enthusiasm up.

The Branch Davidians stopped being a problem when Koresh died because pretty much all of them died with him.

There's a chance that the GOP shifts back to something saner if Trump loses again or, more likely, when he finally dies. And there's a good chance nobody can really step into his shoes and politically organize the same forces that he did. But they're mainstream now. "Conservatism" is Trumpism and many of them want violence.  They're not going to deradicalize. Our best hope is probably that a group of them further radicalizes as their ability to win elections shrinks, that they attempt a violent coup, and that they all get killed.  Because the alternative is probably a very long campaign of "lone wolf" style terrorism that we all just live with.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

 

Elias has said he's been preparing for this shit for 6 months. Now, reports on the other side said that this time the Rs are also prepared and not going to half ass this shit, but nonetheless. Elias seems confident. 

I'm the only non-legal expert on this site, but in a battle between equally capable legal teams, I'm taking the side with the law and facts on their side. 

Though, it's not going to be nearly as fun as watching Rudy, Ellis, and co. get absolutely dunked on every day for two months.

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Posted
1 minute ago, aggie08 said:

I'm the only non-legal expert on this site, but in a battle between equally capable legal teams, I'm taking the side with the law and facts on their side. 

Though, it's not going to be nearly as fun as watching Rudy, Ellis, and co. get absolutely dunked on every day for two months.

Lawsuit thread this time needs a running tally at the top for every L

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Posted
1 minute ago, Red Five said:

Go ahead @Horn75, explain why you negged this. 

I’ll neg anything on here having my old account banned cause I had a different opinion from you communists 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Horn75 said:

I’ll neg anything on here having my old account banned cause I had a different opinion from you communists 

There's those critical thinking skills in use again. 

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