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6 hours ago, Cap33 said:

About the necklace, yes, both it and her clothes from that shoot could have been on loan to the stylist. And there are many similar-looking necklaces out there that aren't $62K. It's pretty common to see a well-known Tiffany or Cartier design "duped" at a lower price. Just google Kamala's Tiffany necklace for them to appear ready to purchase for the low price of $165.

But I hope (and bet) it's fucking real and hers and that she keeps wearing it. And then I hope some TikTok account runs pictures of Melania carrying various Hermes handbags and talks about their price tags because each runs anywhere between $10K and $75K (or more). 

It's so stupid. Successful grown folks have good shit, and everyone knows that. 

2 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:


Because he’s low energy 

My wife and I were talking about this today. I think he's either scared and depressed because of the turn of events of the last 2 weeks, has covid, or both.  I would be shocked if he dropped out of the race, but I don't think Scaramucci's speculation is the craziest thing I've heard, particularly given crowds at Harris events. They really don't matter a lot in terms of the elections but they matter a lot to President Trump.  If he's way behind in the polls in 3-4 weeks he's going to start looking for a face-saving option. 

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14 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

That dude's head shape is wild. I seriously thought it was some mocking photoshop of someone else at first.

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I thought it might be this guy for a moment:

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https://www.theverge.com/24214575/tim-walz-uber-lyft-driver-pay-veto-vp-minnesota

 

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Last year, when Minnesota’s progressive politicians coalesced around a bill to raise the minimum pay for Uber and Lyft drivers in the state, their ostensibly left-of-center governor surprised them all by pulling a move he had yet to use while in office: he vetoed it. 

Uber and Lyft were threatening to stop operating in Minnesota if the bill was signed into law, and Governor Tim Walz was worried about losing a mode of transportation that many Minnesotans relied on. But he also didn’t want to ostracize his progressive allies, many of whom have been laboring for years to force the multibillion-dollar ridehail companies to cough up a little more for their beleaguered drivers.

 

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Now that he’s been catapulted to the national stage as Vice President Kamala Harris’ running mate, it’s worth reexamining how Walz navigated a tricky situation with two major tech companies and their progressive opponents — and how the ultimate solution left some major issues around the gig economy unaddressed. 

“I think these workers, these drivers in the gig economy — we’re looking at a brand new model of how things are done,” Walz told a local reporter in May 2023 after vetoing the initial legislation. “They’re independent contractors and I think there’s no doubt about it, there’s got to be some protections. There’s gotta be minimum wage, there’s got to be protections on how they get deactivated. So I’m in agreement with them. I don’t believe the vehicle that passed the legislature at the very end was the vehicle to do that.”

 

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Supporters of the bill expressed their disappointment. The Minnesota Uber/Lyft Drivers Association said on X (then Twitter), “It is surprising that [Tim Walz] sides with corporates [sic] over poor drivers who campaigned and voted for him like he would be their savior.”

But their disappointment would be short-lived. A year later, Walz signed a bill into law that would raise pay for drivers by an estimated 20 percent while also providing a new type of insurance for injuries incurred on the job and making it harder for Uber and Lyft to deactivate drivers from their respective platforms.

 

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Walz proved deft at handling the issue, signaling to Uber and Lyft that he was willing to compromise while also keeping progressive groups at the table. He formed a working group that was tasked with gathering data on driver pay and corporate profits, among other elements. To be sure, the new law didn’t raise driver pay as much as the original proposal — $1.28 per mile and 31 cents per minute, versus $1.40 per mile and 51 cents per minute. 

But it seemed to work. Uber and Lyft backed off their threat to leave the state. And Minnesota gained the distinction as only the second state in the US, after Washington state, to regulate rideshare driver pay through legislation. (New York’s attorney general announced minimum pay rates for drivers as part of a settlement with Uber and Lyft last year.)

Walz used the opportunity to tout his commitment to raising standards for working-class people while keeping transportation prices low for regular Minnesotans. “The idea that if you put in a hard day’s work, you get paid a fair wage for it,” he said at the bill signing ceremony on May 28th. “That at work you should be safe, you should be taken care of, and that we’re providing a service that Minnesotans depend on.

The new law also requires Uber and Lyft to provide insurance to drivers that goes beyond what’s already covered by their car insurance. (Drivers wanted insurance to cover injuries from assaults from riders, for example.) It also restricts how Uber and Lyft deactivate drivers from their platforms. 

But there are also some big pieces missing from the bill, such as anything that would require Uber and Lyft to classify its drivers as employees rather than independent contractors. Driver groups and labor organizers have been pushing states to reclassify drivers as employees so they can qualify for certain legal benefits, like minimum wage, overtime pay, unemployment insurance, worker’s compensation, and paid sick leave. 

Uber and Lyft are extremely intent on keeping drivers as contractors. And Walz proved unwilling to tackle that particular issue, perhaps realizing that the courts would be the ultimate arbiters. 

Several courts have already weighed in on the debate, most notably in California, but Uber and Lyft have successfully beaten back such efforts through ballot initiatives. President Joe Biden’s Labor Department announced a final rule earlier this year that would make it harder to classify workers as independent contractors, effectively rescinding a Trump-era rule that would have relaxed those rules. But if Trump wins in November, those rules could swing back the other way

In the end, he got his deal, and Uber and Lyft vowed to stick around in Minnesota, mollifying concerns. It’s unclear whether Walz’s involvement in any way played a role in his selection as the vice presidential nominee. After all, the Harris campaign has its own ties to the ridehail industry. Harris’ brother-in-law and top advisor is Tony West, who is also the general counsel at Uber. And the vice president recently hired David Plouffe, a veteran of the Obama administration and a former vice president of strategy at Uber, to help run her presidential campaign. 

The deal won by Walz was not without its critics. Niko LeMieux, cofounder and COO of the Minnesota-based payments startup Easy Labs, criticized Walz for his dismissive attitude toward smaller rideshare companies that wanted to fill the vacuum if Uber and Lyft followed through on their threat to leave the state. Walz called the idea that any new app company could replace the rideshare giants “magical thinking,” but LeMieux argued that he was underselling the state’s entrepreneurial spirit. 

But those criticisms were set aside when Harris announced Walz as her pick. Hours after the announcement, LeMieux posted a photo of himself on X with his arm draped around the governor and a big smile on his face. After all, the past was in the past. And Walz was on his way to bigger things.

 

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16 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It's so stupid. Successful grown folks have good shit, and everyone knows that. 

My wife and I were talking about this today. I think he's either scared and depressed because of the turn of events of the last 2 weeks, has covid, or both.  I would be shocked if he dropped out of the race, but I don't think Scaramucci's speculation is the craziest thing I've heard, particularly given crowds at Harris events. They really don't matter a lot in terms of the elections but they matter a lot to President Trump.  If he's way behind in the polls in 3-4 weeks he's going to start looking for a face-saving option. 


the Trump brand will die with him 

he wasn’t expecting that

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6 minutes ago, WhatTheBuck said:

Fuck no. You don’t pay Trump’s bills. If anything you go to the towns where he owes money and hold your own events. Then you pay your own obligations and say you did it to help the community out because Trump is a deadbeat. Let the “king of debt” stay in debt. 

Plus trump ran on his supposed ability to get Mexico to pay for "the wall," he'd absolutely pounce on the opportunity that he got Kamala to pay his bills for him, and quite a few people would eat it up.

A much, much, MUCH better plan? Have the campaign bankroll a lawsuit against him from one of these towns over the unpaid fees. Put Kamala being a prosecutor and in favor of justice on display.

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8 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

Depends on the punctuation.  He's speaking quickly.  He could have said "And we can make sure that those weapons of war that I carried, in war is the only place that those weapons are at."

It's not clear that he claimed he carried weapons in war.

Or, and I thought I heard this "those weapons of war that I carried and war is the only place those weapons are at."

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Trying to sue your way back into the White House doesn't work if you get your ass blown out in most of the states. He's also slipping in the polls so he can't pull his bullshit of how "I was winning in the polls, how could I be losing at the ballot box without rigged elections". Kamala and Walz need to bring the pain so he'll drop out like the craven cunt he is. He doesn't want to suffer the indignity of a black....err Indian woman kicking his ass. I think he's so upset that getting shot at didn't hand him the White House. He really thought he was destined to win after that. Then people remembered just how much of a piece of shit he really is. 

Trump really needs that judge in New York to put him in jail in early September. That's his only remaining play to both save face, drop out, or get some sympathy points. 

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40 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

That dude's head shape is wild. I seriously thought it was some mocking photoshop of someone else at first.

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That's Tor Johnson's slow grandson

 

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43 minutes ago, OU Sucks said:

That dude's head shape is wild. I seriously thought it was some mocking photoshop of someone else at first.

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22 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Trying to sue your way back into the White House doesn't work if you get your ass blown out in most of the states.

None of these will come to trial and have a verdict in 90 days. The trial will not happen before the lawsuits happen. All that would occur is a bunch of news stories about Kamala trying to help some scammed towns get justice.

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30 minutes ago, Loch Ness Monster said:

Trump has given up? He's cooked and he knows it.

Having lived through many cycles, never seen the Dem enthusiasm so high. LFG!

He's not. But, if/when he thinks he is, things will get weird.

(we have not yet seen weird)

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

That was her Black side as my momma used that tone many time on a young Pancho 

 

 

I was just thinking anyone who doubts she is black never had a black woman teach any of their high school classes. I got that tone many a time (also a few well aimed chalkboard erasers I had to duck)

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3 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm sure the can't win progressives will cry like the little bitches they are about her shutting down the protestors. Frankly, they can get fucked. The person you're protesting can help make things a lot better for Gaza if you'd shut the fuck up and get out of the way. 

Not to mention shes actually one of the only people in the entire government actually calling for people to listen to palestinians. She *agrees* with the protestors. More likely, those people were republican plants, tbh.

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I think it's been posted, but it could stand being repeated.

Harris is also now winning independents, something Biden was not doing. Harris is up 9 points with independents (53%-44%). She was down 14 points with them last month. And in early July, Trump was beating Biden by 4 points with the group.

Harris has also improved with white voters overall. Harris has gone from 40% with white voters overall to 46% in this survey, which is closer to where Biden was, and that’s very high for a Democrat. In fact, no Democrat has scored that high with white voters in a presidential election since Jimmy Carter in 1976. Biden got 41% in 2020, Barack Obama in 2008 won 43%.

That improvement is mostly because of college-educated white women. White voters without degrees, a core Trump base group, are heavily in Trump’s favor and their margin is unchanged. Two-thirds of college-educated white women, though, are now in Harris’ camp, which would be far higher than the percentage that sided with Biden in 2020.

 

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10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm sure the can't win progressives will cry like the little bitches they are about her shutting down the protestors. Frankly, they can get fucked. The person you're protesting can help make things a lot better for Gaza if you'd shut the fuck up and get out of the way. 


 

I voted 3rd party!!!

 

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15 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm sure the can't win progressives will cry like the little bitches they are about her shutting down the protestors. Frankly, they can get fucked. The person you're protesting can help make things a lot better for Gaza if you'd shut the fuck up and get out of the way. 

She handled it like a champ. Everyone but those dipshits knows the score. They can fucking figure it out.

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18 minutes ago, mdmost said:

I'm sure the can't win progressives will cry like the little bitches they are about her shutting down the protestors. Frankly, they can get fucked. The person you're protesting can help make things a lot better for Gaza if you'd shut the fuck up and get out of the way. 

Also, she FUCKING MET WITH THEM before the rally and they still protested.  Goddamn morons.

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7 hours ago, locodos said:

Still better than what JD Vance would do to them

This! This is why this site will be the GOAT of the internet. Funny fucking assholes everywhere.

 

 

Dibs on the band name "Funny Fucking Assholes"

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52 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

My dad is a veteran and never saw combat. He was an aircraft mechanic in the airforce, worked on all sorts of planes in vietnam. Fuck JD Vance if he thinks my dad wasn't a real vet because he didn't go to live combat.

edit: suffice to say, my dad thinks JD Vance is a fucking idiot and is 100% aboard Team Kamala.

You're not my brother, are you? 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

I was just thinking anyone who doubts she is black never had a black woman teach any of their high school classes. I got that tone many a time (also a few well aimed chalkboard erasers I had to duck)

Reminds me of "The Wire", where Police Major Bunny Colvin is speaking at the assembly and getting heckled, and the black woman comes in and the kids all go "oh shit".   "Walter, I  know your mother...she didn't raise any CLOWNS, did she?"   Kid shitting his pants "no ma'am". 

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1 hour ago, Sawbonz said:

I was just thinking anyone who doubts she is black never had a black woman teach any of their high school classes. I got that tone many a time (also a few well aimed chalkboard erasers I had to duck)

The only time I ever got detention in highschool was from my black History teacher because I kept wearing my UT ball cap to class every day. She gave me a couple of warnings, then one day I came in and got exactly that tone. She was a very close family friend that we had known since well before I was in school, so it felt exactly like a mom's tone.

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58 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

My dad is a veteran and never saw combat. He was an aircraft mechanic in the airforce, worked on all sorts of planes in vietnam. Fuck JD Vance if he thinks my dad wasn't a real vet because he didn't go to live combat.

edit: suffice to say, my dad thinks JD Vance is a fucking idiot and is 100% aboard Team Kamala.

My Son was infantry (now a pilot) and saw a lot of combat.  

My GF's son was an Air Force mechanic, never deployed, had/has a bit of a beer belly worked 8 hours a day and went home.   I respect his service too.  Everybody's got a job to do.  My kid can't fly a combat mission if somebody doesn't fuel his Apache, and...wash the fucking windshield.    If you served honorably, you served honorably.   

We don't need everybody to be Audie Murphy. 

Dave Grohl was working (too) hard on an already good song. Somebody said to him (Rick Rubin?) "hey Dave, every song doesn't have to be "Imagine"

2 minutes ago, WelfareBuysMyWeed said:

The only time I ever got detention in highschool was from my black History teacher because I kept wearing my UT ball cap to class every day. She gave me a couple of warnings, then one day I came in and got exactly that tone. She was a very close family friend that we had known since well before I was in school, so it felt exactly like a mom's tone.

I was gonna ask if she was aggy, then I remembered that she was black. 

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