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10 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

I don't think he became an odd duck/recluse, I think he always was one.

Either that or Grimes broke him.

Well, I grant you he's always been a goofy fuck. I'll also note that I've had some "wealthy" 2% "friends" (20+ acres in Hollywood Hills) and some athletes/musicians the hanger ons are a problem. 

That said he ran a business. He's in the lime light by his own choice. 

Yet.. he's a fucking hermit on Christmas. It's bizarre and honestly I l note it because to me it make me think mental illness. I will NOT shame someone suffering from mental illness, but when I see behaviors that make me think of it in a public figure I'm going to point it out. Particularly one so polarizing and in the political hemisphere as Musk. 

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3 minutes ago, chainsaw said:

It's not difficult for a halfway competent publicist to selectively lift facts from Elon Musk's CV and get you to believe he's the most interesting man in the world.

But he's impossible to spend any amount of time with because he's that much of a blowhard (and his on-paper "accomplishments" are not rightfully his accomplishments).

As we learned hundreds of pages ago, he's a fraud.

But he's also a piece of shit. So the only way anyone would spend time with him is if they're getting paid, or if they think it will pay off somehow.

I don't disagree with any of this, but at some point you're either running off everyone or your choosing to be alone. 

Rich people have to choose to be alone, blowhard, goofy weirdo or not. 

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5 minutes ago, BurntEyes said:

I don't disagree with any of this, but at some point you're either running off everyone or your choosing to be alone. 

Rich people have to choose to be alone, blowhard, goofy weirdo or not. 

He doesn't want to be alone. He wouldn't be such an attention seeker otherwise. What happens with him is that people get close to him, then they realize he's exhausting to be around, and they either maintain a distance from him or totally abandon him. The people he wants to be around, don't want to be around him. The people who want to be around him, he thinks they are beneath him and not deserving of the opportunity.

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Either that or Grimes broke him.

This is my working theory, along with covid. I followed him really closely around when I first got my model 3 in 2018 and he was relatively normal back then. Grimes combined with Covid completely broke his brain. 

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25 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is my working theory, along with covid. I followed him really closely around when I first got my model 3 in 2018 and he was relatively normal back then. Grimes combined with Covid completely broke his brain. 

I don't think so. 

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Does anyone know non-MAGA types who have purchased a Tesla in the last year or two? I don't. In terms of determining new Tesla purchases in general, it's tough to gauge in the wild because models rarely change. Obviously any Cybertruck is new and I've seen maybe ~5 in Houston. I rarely go to the suburbs.

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11 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

I don't think he became an odd duck/recluse, I think he always was one.

Either that or Grimes broke him.

https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2024/05/i-read-everything-elon-musk-posted-for-a-week-send-help/

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I Read Everything Elon Musk Posted for a Week. Send Help.

If your media diet looked like his, you’d be red-pilled too.

And this was back in May. His posting/replying has only gotten more prolific. 

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6 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

I'm sure he'd shown signs of douchnozzleness previously but I first really started paying attention when he tried to get involved when the boys soccer team got trapped in the cave in Thailand. Leon called the main guy working the problem a "pedo" after the guy basically blew off Leon's idea to rescue the kids. At that point, I knew something was really wrong with the dude.

You realize that people don't change without traumatic injury right? Plasticity is not a thing for humans. 

He's always been this way and unless he's really good at hiding some major traumatic event this is just how he's always been. Plenty of evidence out there. 

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18 minutes ago, C-Man said:

 

I'm sure he'd shown signs of douchnozzleness previously but I first really started paying attention when he tried to get involved when the boys soccer team got trapped in the cave in Thailand. Leon called the main guy working the problem a "pedo" after the guy basically blew off Leon's idea to rescue the kids. At that point, I knew something was really wrong with the dude.

That’s when I noticed it, too. Had to look it up and that was in 2018.

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21 minutes ago, immamac said:

You realize that people don't change without traumatic injury right? Plasticity is not a thing for humans. 

He's always been this way and unless he's really good at hiding some major traumatic event this is just how he's always been. Plenty of evidence out there. 

He was always a little weirdo fraudster with no social skills and a lot of libertarian tendencies, but he used to understand that his product appealed primarily to liberals and that he needed to exercise some self restraint to keep from alienating his customers. But some combination of his failed relationship with Grimes (more specifically, her leaving him for Chelsea Manning), his kid coming out trans (and disowning him), covid lockdowns, his earnest embrace of neonazi conspiracy theories, and his increased drug use has actually made him even worse. You can say he was always like this, and yeah he actually always sucked, but he wasn't openly a fucking nazi five years ago.  

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I doubt he's long for his "DOGE" position - I'm traveling, and staying at various relatives who lean a certain way, and certain TV channels are on constantly, and there's a lot of anger from various politicians and celebrities/talking heads who are really pissed off that he and Vivek are pushing to throw open the doors to a fuckton of H-1Bs/immigrant workers being imported for high-paying jobs in the US.  Vivek tried to blame it on some shit about Saved by the Bell or Urkel from Family Matters, but regardless these people are all over social media and the news talking about Musk and Vivek not being "MAGA" and having fooled Trump.

I thought Musk wouldn't last into February or March, but I'm not sure he'll make it through January - between all of the memes and talk about how Trump is Musk's puppet and that Musk is really the President, and now the stuff with Musk trying to bring in a fuckton of foreign workers, something is going to stick in Trump's ear.

Maybe we should start a pool.  I will be shocked if he's still on this committee come January 31st.  Musk should have kept the H-1B stuff on the down low until later on, but this is where his inability to read the room comes into play.

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26 minutes ago, royiv said:

That’s when I noticed it, too. Had to look it up and that was in 2018.

That was the first I started seeing him go into the weirdo world. It’s gotten progressively worse and Covid and grimes was when it really ramped up. 

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12 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

That's what I mean, I don't fucking get it. How is someone who's operated in business and lived his life become such an odd duck and recluse? 

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Howard Hughes is looking at you oddly. 

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

You realize that people don't change without traumatic injury right? Plasticity is not a thing for humans. 

He's always been this way and unless he's really good at hiding some major traumatic event this is just how he's always been. Plenty of evidence out there. 

 

1 hour ago, royiv said:

That’s when I noticed it, too. Had to look it up and that was in 2018.

 

52 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

He was always a little weirdo fraudster with no social skills and a lot of libertarian tendencies, but he used to understand that his product appealed primarily to liberals and that he needed to exercise some self restraint to keep from alienating his customers. But some combination of his failed relationship with Grimes (more specifically, her leaving him for Chelsea Manning), his kid coming out trans (and disowning him), covid lockdowns, his earnest embrace of neonazi conspiracy theories, and his increased drug use has actually made him even worse. You can say he was always like this, and yeah he actually always sucked, but he wasn't openly a fucking nazi five years ago.  

 

38 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

That was the first I started seeing him go into the weirdo world. It’s gotten progressively worse and Covid and grimes was when it really ramped up. 

 

27 minutes ago, immamac said:

 

I mean, come the fuck on guys. 

Yeah, as I said, he's probably been this guy from the beginning but I wasn't paying enough attention to him before he "went public" with his batshittery in the Thai cave thing. He hasn't been around forever. He was worth a paltry $2B in 2012. Hell, it wasn't until the Twitter acquisition where he completed his transformation into full-on Bond villain.

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

You realize that people don't change without traumatic injury right? Plasticity is not a thing for humans. 

He's always been this way and unless he's really good at hiding some major traumatic event this is just how he's always been. Plenty of evidence out there. 


I think it's drugs. Ketamine and others. 

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15 minutes ago, Horn Under a Bad Sign said:


I think it's drugs. Ketamine and others. 

Yup. One call to Kash Patel and it will be Edith Jones affirming a 200 year sentence for conspiracy to possess controlled substances.

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8 hours ago, Biff Tannen said:

This is my working theory, along with covid. I followed him really closely around when I first got my model 3 in 2018 and he was relatively normal back then. Grimes combined with Covid completely broke his brain. 

This is who he has always been. I suspect that if someone did an unauthorized biography of his life you would find stories like this stretching the entirety of it. It’s just magnified now due to his obscene wealth and negative impact upon society. 

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1 hour ago, NoName said:

One of the conservative network dudes who lost his blue check is now going back to Elon = Dittman. 👀

 

The conversation he's referring to can be found here.

Elon is not sane.  

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1 minute ago, TexasHooch said:

Here he i(Errr I mean Dittman) is arguing with Loomer directly last night.

 

Elon is so fucking stupid. It’s like if Mack Brown tried electronically change the pitch of his voice but kept using the phrase “scares you to death” and name dropped Sally a few times. We know it’s you dude. Your voice is so unique that auto tune can’t even fucking mask who you are. 

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From a few hours ago

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/musk-vivek-ramaswamy-h1b-visa-maga-immigration-what-to-know/

Musk and Ramaswamy's views have sparked an online spat between factions of Trump's supporters over immigration and the tech industry, whose businesses rely on the H-1B visa to bring in thousands of foreign engineers and other skilled workers each year from India, China and other nations.

The tech industry has long called for more H-1B visas to attract highly skilled workers to the U.S., although Trump's first administration restricted the program in 2020, arguing that it allows businesses to replace Americans with lower-paid foreign workers. 

That debate has again erupted after Musk, himself once on an H-1B visa and whose electric vehicle company Tesla has hired workers using the program, defended the tech industry's need to bring in foreign workers. Ramaswamy, for his part, wrote in an X post that American culture "has venerated mediocrity over excellence," leading to a nation that does "not produce the best engineers."

"There is a permanent shortage of excellent engineering talent. It is the fundamental limiting factor in Silicon Valley," Musk wrote on Dec. 25 on X, his social media app. 

The debate touched off this week when Laura Loomer, a right-wing influencer with a history of racist and conspiratorial comments, criticized Trump's selection of Sriram Krishnan as an adviser on artificial intelligence policy in his coming administration. Krishnan favors the ability to bring more skilled immigrants into the U.S.

Loomer declared the stance to be "not America First policy" and said the tech executives who have aligned themselves with Trump were doing so to enrich themselves. 

Loomer's comments sparked a back-and-forth with venture capitalist and former PayPal executive David Sacks, whom Trump has tapped to be the "White House A.I. & Crypto Czar." Musk and Ramaswamy, whom Trump has tasked with finding ways to cut the federal government, defended the tech industry's need to bring in foreign workers.

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What if Musk dumped a shitload of money into Trump’s campaign and whispered sweet nothings into his ear, so that he could stop Trump from restricting H-1Bs, and even increase the number coming in?  What if Vivek joined in for similar reasons?

Musk is trying to shut down California’s high-speed initiatives, he and Vivek want some loans or grants given to other EV makers rescinded, he wants to increase government contracts to SpaceX, he wants the EPA scaled back or ditched so they’d get off his back, and so on, and so forth.

All of the sudden people are discovering that a billionaire oligarch wants to do things that benefit himself?

Shocked GIF by The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon

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1 hour ago, Surly Bevo said:

Elon is what you get when you combine some underlying personality disorder with a massive sleep debt while dabbling with some drugs.  

Dabbling?

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3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

A nice side benefit of this is how MAGA is completely dropping the veil of "oh, no, we only have a problem with ILLEGAL immigration!"  That was always a lie.   And now, they are openly telling you "yep, that was a lie.  We don't want ANY immigrants.  At all."

Whereas Elon just says "look, so long as I can have functional slaves, I don't care where they come from."

Yall got Elon’s real motivations twisted. No one stans harder for Elon than Indian tech dudes on Twitter so that’s what side he’s on. 

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41 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I mean, this is all highly entertaining of course, but some of you guys are acting like any of this going on over the last day on the Xitter matters.

It does not matter.

Well, President Leon is going to find himself kicked off the Doge commission, and that's going to be fun as fuck, especially if the H-1Bs are drastically limited or completely ended.  We will see twitter weaponized against people who aren't used to it.

Musk probably doesn't even see this coming - from his twitter postings lately, he seems to be oblivious to how many people are pissed at him, and because he's always the smartest guy in the room, he thinks the people disagreeing with him are morons. He helped Trump get elected, but he doesn't understand that he's pretty useless to Trump now.

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1 minute ago, atomheartbevo said:

Well, President Leon is going to find himself kicked off the Doge commission, and that's going to be fun as fuck, especially if the H-1Bs are drastically limited or completely ended.  We will see twitter weaponized against people who aren't used to it.

Musk probably doesn't even see this coming - from his twitter postings lately, he seems to be oblivious to how many people are pissed at him, and because he's always the smartest guy in the room, he thinks the people disagreeing with him are morons. He helped Trump get elected, but he doesn't understand that he's pretty useless to Trump now.

This is all playing out on Xitter.  It's entertaining....it's also 2 days after Christmas, and nobody is paying attention.  I said it on the other thread.  This is the same shit verse 3,567 of all the other breathless pre-election "holy shit look at this insanity, can you believe this is happening" tweets from generally the same cast of characters.  

 

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45 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

This is all playing out on Xitter.  It's entertaining....it's also 2 days after Christmas, and nobody is paying attention.  I said it on the other thread.  This is the same shit verse 3,567 of all the other breathless pre-election "holy shit look at this insanity, can you believe this is happening" tweets from generally the same cast of characters.  

Ehh, it's being covered by the media, and the right-wingers like Loomer are foaming at the mouth over it, and there are people in Congress pissed about it.  Combine with the "President Musk" talk and Musk won't be around in the administration much longer.  He believes he can convince Trump of anything, and doesn't realize that everybody is disposable to Trump.

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