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3 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

never forget !!!!

 

It's amazing we went from that to this. It's like when a snowball starts rolling downhill or something.

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2 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

It's amazing we went from that to this. It's like when a snowball starts rolling downhill or something.

How much more outrage was there over that suit than what we will see over the president saying he doesn't care about violence if it comes from his supporters?

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On 9/11/2025 at 10:40 AM, Vegas64 said:

I don't think I agree with you here. The only reason I know the name Charlie Kirk is because of this messageboard. After his death like 3 friends talked about it. I was on a call with peers at work and someone asked outloud "Who is this Kirk guy that died? just got an alert" from a team of people who watch CNBC daily. I think if you are super active online it probably feels the way you bolded, but I'm not seeing it in real life.

The markets have been shrugging off everything. Tariffs, for the most part. Bombing Qatar (Hamas) was a huge deal with huge implications-- barely registered on mainstream media fronts. All anyone cares about in the world I see everyday has been a) Oracle's out of the blue story b) "did you see the new iphone air? when are airbuds 3.0 coming?", and most importantly and the bullhorn in every room c) AI bubble/boom. And that seems to be all the market cares about as well right now.

tl;dr Long way to say, I don't agree it feels like a climax. Kirk is not a Lincoln or Franz Ferdinand or anyone else of widespread fame/infamy. He seems to be known, loved or hated, by the chronicaly online and vocal minority.

 

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Bozo_Casanova said:

But we intuitively understand why, because it sadly, tragically fits into the way things are going. We don’t know how this chapter of history ends (it will end, but we don’t know how or when), but it feels like we’re in the climax, the moment when things get really bad. 

 

@Bozo_Casanovanow that we have some level of detail, wanted to circle back on this and if it changes your initial comments about feeling like we are in a climactic situation. As @Chopper eloquently said, "Charlie Kirk was killed by a furry meme bullet fired by a 4chan-poisoned groyper while working a race-baiting dog whistle into an argument about trans mass shooters." If that is/are the facts, I don't see how this is the cataylst that brings anything to a head or makes things worse. In fact it's probably one of the few "soft landing" outcomes that could have splashed cold water on this whole thing.

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1 minute ago, Vegas64 said:

 

@Bozo_Casanovanow that we have some level of detail, wanted to circle back on this and if it changes your initial comments about feeling like we are in a climactic situation. As @Chopper eloquently said, "Charlie Kirk was killed by a furry meme bullet fired by a 4chan-poisoned groyper while working a race-baiting dog whistle into an argument about trans mass shooters." If that is/are the facts, I don't see how this is the cataylst that brings anything to a head or makes things worse. In fact it's probably one of the few "soft landing" outcomes that could have splashed cold water on this whole thing.

Yeah, except for the fact that Cankles McTaco Tits base will disregard the truth as always.

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3 minutes ago, VABuckeye said:

Yeah, except for the fact that Cankles McTaco Tits base will disregard the truth as always.

I think in this case, disregarding the truth might be to move on from the topic and let other news cycle.

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In fact, you can make an argument this is the worst case outcome for Trump. He doesn't get to rail against his ops AND epstein file mania in the zeitgeist has not worn off completely and could be rekindled by this weekend.

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These brainwashed maga lunatics are turning on each other already, and we haven't even gotten a full 7 months into the trump disaster of an economy yet. Wjat happens once these people lose their jobs in massive numbers and keep seeing trump and his politicans, billionaires, and talking heads flaunting their money? 

What happens when trump kicks the bucket and there's absolutely zero unifying force left between all these hate machine brainwashed political cults? Seems like they'll continue to turn on each other. 

 

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Just now, Hermanator said:

These brainwashed maga lunatics are turning on each other already, and we haven't even gotten a full 7 months into the trump disaster of an economy yet. Wjat happens once these people lose their jobs in massive numbers and keep seeing trump and his politicans, billionaires, and talking heads flaunting their money? 

What happens when trump kicks the bucket and there's absolutely zero unifying force left between all these hate machine brainwashed political cults? Seems like they'll continue to turn on each other. 

 

Awesome Let Them Fight GIF by Legendary Entertainment

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https://www.nytimes.com/2025/09/12/climate/epa-emissions-data-collection-halt.html

The Environmental Protection Agency moved on Friday to stop requiring thousands of polluting facilities to report the amount of heat-trapping greenhouse gases that they release into the air.

The E.P.A. proposal would end requirements for thousands of coal-burning power plants, oil refineries, steel mills and other industrial facilities across the country. The government has been collecting this data since 2010 and it is a key tool to track carbon dioxide, methane and other gases that are driving climate change.

The Friday announcement comes as the Trump administration has systematically erased mentions of climate change from government websites while slashing federal funding for research on global warming.

“Alongside President Trump, E.P.A. continues to live up to the promise of unleashing energy dominance that powers the American dream,” Lee Zeldin, the E.P.A. administrator, said in a statement. “The Greenhouse Gas Reporting Program is nothing more than bureaucratic red tape.”

Mr. Zeldin said that ending the program would save American businesses up to $2.4 billion in compliance costs. The New York Times could not independently verify that claim; representatives for E.P.A. did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

Critics said the proposal could hobble federal efforts to fight climate change, since the government cannot reduce emissions if it cannot measure how much is generated and where it is produced.

“With this move, they’re taking away the practical and material capacity of the federal government to do the basic elements of climate policymaking,” said Joseph Goffman, who led the E.P.A.’s air office during the Biden administration.

For the past 15 years, the Greenhouse Gas Reporting Program has collected data from about 8,000 of the country’s largest industrial facilities. That data has helped guide numerous decisions on federal policy and has been shared with the United Nations, which has required developed countries to submit tallies of their emissions.

In addition, private companies often rely on the program’s data to demonstrate to investors that their efforts to cut emissions are working. And communities often use it to determine whether local facilities are releasing air pollution that threatens public health.

The E.P.A. proposal would not directly eliminate emissions reporting requirements for certain oil and gas facilities such as pipelines that transport natural gas. That’s because those reports were required by Congress as part of the 2022 Inflation Reduction Act.

Instead, the E.P.A. wants to allow those specific oil and gas facilities to postpone emissions reporting until 2034. Congressional Republicans already delayed a related requirement for the facilities to pay a fee on their methane emissions until 2034.

Representatives for oil and gas industry trade and lobbying groups, including the American Petroleum Institute, did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

The proposal follows a rapid-fire series of steps by the Trump administration to weaken or dismantle environmental protections.

In July, the E.P.A. moved to repeal the scientific finding that underpins the government’s legal authority to combat climate change. And in recent weeks, the White House has directed a half-dozen agencies to thwart the country’s offshore wind industry, a key source of emissions-free electricity.

Under the 2015 Paris Agreement, the United Nations has required all developed countries to provide data on their domestic emissions each year. But the United States missed an April deadline to submit its data, and Mr. Trump began the yearlong process of withdrawing from the Paris pact on his first day back in office.

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3 hours ago, SubliminalHorn said:

We’re in the same boat. It’s like, yeah we want to remodel the kitchen, but I think to myself, I’m not fucking spending money to remodel this place for some maga ss officer and his family that moves in

Witty, dark humor humor with a very depressing kernel of truth. A+

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2 hours ago, Vegas64 said:

 

@Bozo_Casanovanow that we have some level of detail, wanted to circle back on this and if it changes your initial comments about feeling like we are in a climactic situation. As @Chopper eloquently said, "Charlie Kirk was killed by a furry meme bullet fired by a 4chan-poisoned groyper while working a race-baiting dog whistle into an argument about trans mass shooters." If that is/are the facts, I don't see how this is the cataylst that brings anything to a head or makes things worse. In fact it's probably one of the few "soft landing" outcomes that could have splashed cold water on this whole thing.

Nope.  That’s a big part of my premise. At this stage the specifics of who did it doesn’t matter. 



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