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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

FSU shouldve been in that game. They didnt get put in there because everyone knew they would be non-competitive and a rating albatross. But a player getting injured shouldnt erase an undefeated season and a hard earned spot. That's kind of bullshit. 

Why?  So that the game could completely suck, everyone could have shit all to watch (instead of bama v Michigan in OT in the rose bowl) and Michigan could essentially have a bye?  It was a billion percent the right decision. 

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The interesting thing to me is I've already heard talk about a 9-3 Texas team being in from Herbstreit, Ryen Russillo, and Todd Mcshay. Last year people hyped up South Carolina a little too late, and people had dumped on Alabama before the hype train could commence.

This time it seems like pro-SEC types are anticipating the 9-3 team ahead of time.  They don't want a repeat of last year. That goes for OU as well.

Scenario 1: beat Georgia, I think we move up to #6 or so. Stomp Arkansas. Lose to A&M, probably drop to #10. 

Scenario 2: lose close to Georgia, probably drop to #17 or so. Stomp Arkansas. Beat A&M, move up to #10. 

Personally I'd rather just imagine a world where we go 10-2 because why suffer twice by worrying?

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1 hour ago, Askew said:

These are solid points and I am pretty torn. My main thinking: 1) is there that much difference between beating #5 and #3?, and 2) given how the remaining schedules look, if we arent able to bump a team out of the current top 10, we arent getting in. I only see that happening with H2H win comparison. It feels like there will be a bunch of 10-2 teams at the end.

 

the final CFP poll after the champ games had 7 2 loss teams in the top 12

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4 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

lou

police work

disagree there with you

at least until i see the klan are eliminated from atlanta

kiffin had an argument last year and he will go postal if the klan gets "screwed" this year

if we're 10-2 then absolutely we go over 10-2 klan because of scheduling fosu

if we're 10-2 and they make atlanta and lose they go over us at 10-3

His argument over a 2-loss SMU team is a lot more compelling than over a 3-loss Texas team that scheduled tOSU. I disagree with you. 

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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

FSU shouldve been in that game. They didnt get put in there because everyone knew they would be non-competitive and a rating albatross. But a player getting injured shouldnt erase an undefeated season and a hard earned spot. That's kind of bullshit. 

In a thread of bad takes, including many from you, this is probably the worst. 

No one in the last quarter century of CFB has been given more breaks than Florida State when it comes to getting dealt-in to the final game or playoff. 

2000 - Despite losing to Miami, who had the same record and had suffered a loss to a good UW team in Seattle earlier in the season, FSU gets into the BCS. What did they do? Shit themselves and scored 2 points in a dud of a title game that gave OU it's 7th national title.

2014 - FSU skated by with like 9 one-score wins in a hapless ACC to go 13-0 ahead of the playoffs. Everyone was begging a team to beat these clowns and no one in the ACC could figure it out. Rather than sacking up and letting the 4 best teams make the playoffs (Ohio State, TCU, Oregon, and Alabama), they fucked TCU over and let FSU make the semis. They rewarded everyone by taking a heaving shit on live TV while Oregon ran on a train on them. 

So, yeah, they did not deserve the benefit of the doubt in 2023 after losing their QB and playing in the shitty ACC. They played 2 ranked teams all season and then faced another overranked mess in the ACC title game in Louisville, in one of the most unwatchable games of the last decade. That FSU team had a 0% of beating Texas, UW, Michigan, or Bama. 0%. 

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2 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

In a thread of bad takes, including many from you, this is probably the worst. 

No one in the last quarter century of CFB has been given more breaks than Florida State when it comes to getting dealt-in to the final game or playoff. 

2000 - Despite losing to Miami, who had the same record and had suffered a loss to a good UW team in Seattle earlier in the season, FSU gets into the BCS. What did they do? Shit themselves and scored 2 points in a dud of a title game that gave OU it's 7th national title.

2014 - FSU skated by with like 9 one-score wins in a hapless ACC to go 13-0 ahead of the playoffs. Everyone was begging a team to beat these clowns and no one in the ACC could figure it out. Rather than sacking up and letting the 4 best teams make the playoffs (Ohio State, TCU, Oregon, and Alabama), they fucked TCU over and let FSU make the semis. They rewarded everyone by taking a heaving shit on live TV while Oregon ran on a train on them. 

So, yeah, they did not deserve the benefit of the doubt in 2023 after losing their QB and playing in the shitty ACC. They played 2 ranked teams all season and then faced another overranked mess in the ACC title game in Louisville, in one of the most unwatchable games of the last decade. That FSU team had a 0% of beating Texas, UW, Michigan, or Bama. 0%. 

That really isn’t much of an argument anymore. Talking heads like Klatt and Herbstreit don’t even flinch or pause when they answered absolutely not, FSU should not have gotten in over the teams that did. I don’t even remember FSU fans being up in arms about it. 

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2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

that was a different issue.  barring crazy upsets in the Big 12, the Big 12 is getting 2, ACC 1, and then G5.  B1G, ND, and SEC fighting over 8 spots.  ND losing would be nice(water is wet)

It's basically the same math as what we ended up with last year and what will probably be the standard math as long as the current format exists.  Big 12/ACC will get 3 total, G5 gets 1, ND gets with 2 losses or fewer and Big 10/SEC split the rest.

Just now, Cruz in Aledo said:

That really isn’t much of an argument anymore. Talking heads like Klatt and Herbstreit don’t even flinch or pause when they answered absolutely not, FSU should not have gotten in over the teams that did. I don’t even remember FSU fans being up in arms about it. 

They sued the ACC over it.

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5 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It's basically the same math as what we ended up with last year and what will probably be the standard math as long as the current format exists.  Big 12/ACC will get 3 total, G5 gets 1, ND gets with 2 losses or fewer and Big 10/SEC split the rest.

They sued the ACC over it.

Yeah but besides that?  Did they throw water bottles on the field?  I don’t think so. 

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6 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

That really isn’t much of an argument anymore. Talking heads like Klatt and Herbstreit don’t even flinch or pause when they answered absolutely not, FSU should not have gotten in over the teams that did. I don’t even remember FSU fans being up in arms about it. 

they still big mad on reddit , im not sure what FSU fans you're talking to but they blame it on breaking their entire Norvell tenure 

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5 hours ago, Js1 said:

Saturday dream scenario for Texas fans:

  • Georgia loses to MSST (or really struggles)
  • BYU blows out Tech to hand them loss #2
  • aggycoaster plunges against Mizzou
  • Oregon loses to Iowa
  • ND loses to Navy
  • Florida beats Kentucky (the closer to .500 Florida ends up, the better for us) 

I'd like UGA to get beat up in OT. Who do I see about that?

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17 minutes ago, Cruz in Aledo said:

That really isn’t much of an argument anymore. Talking heads like Klatt and Herbstreit don’t even flinch or pause when they answered absolutely not, FSU should not have gotten in over the teams that did. I don’t even remember FSU fans being up in arms about it. 

The FSU fanbase and their journalists/board mods have all labeled 2023 "The Snub". They think their program still hasn't recovered from it. It was a massive deal for them and remains as such to this day. 

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19 minutes ago, BigHornedLurker said:

they still big mad on reddit , im not sure what FSU fans you're talking to but they blame it on breaking their entire Norvell tenure 

 

8 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

The FSU fanbase and their journalists/board mods have all labeled 2023 "The Snub". They think their program still hasn't recovered from it. It was a massive deal for them and remains as such to this day. 

I don’t know shit about fuck, certainly when it comes to FSU. It’s a really stupid argument. It’s definitely one time the Committee made a smart decision that was totally logical. 

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2 hours ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

FSU shouldve been in that game. They didnt get put in there because everyone knew they would be non-competitive and a rating albatross. But a player getting injured shouldnt erase an undefeated season and a hard earned spot. That's kind of bullshit. 

No, it is not. For years, the college football playoff had their criteria posted on their website. It specifically said that the committee would consider important injuries. FSU had an important injury to the most important position on the field. FSU was not only aware of this, they (and everyone else) voted for and accepted this criteria for the committee. Why this is confusing for you is strange.  

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45 minutes ago, Al_4_ISU said:

It's basically the same math as what we ended up with last year and what will probably be the standard math as long as the current format exists.  Big 12/ACC will get 3 total, G5 gets 1, ND gets with 2 losses or fewer and Big 10/SEC split the rest.

They sued the ACC over it.

when you hook all college football fans on the "loss column" for about 70+ years the withdrawal is very, very painful...

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5 hours ago, TxEx84 said:

Does Oregon losing help us? I want the B1G to only get three teams in. If Iowa loses, that knocks them out. Just let the Big10 have tOSU, Ind, and Oregon. The others (USC, Iowa, Wash, Mich) need to lose.

Yes, because Iowa still has to go on the road at USC. I think they drop that one. 

6 hours ago, Vertigo said:

Agree, why wouldn't we want Georgia to win? If we go on the road next week and finally get over the hump in Athens, that is going to be the win that gets us into the playoffs even if we do drop one of the last two games. 

That's what I believe. A win at Georgia will give us more credibility than losing there and winning the last two at home. That said, if we can win in Athens then it's likely we beat aggy as well. 

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BTW, all of this talk about schedule strength and who deserves to be in and blah blah blah, for those frustrated with Notre Dame basically playing a 2 game schedule, losing both, and still all but certain to be in barring Pitt or Navy saving the day, do not go look at ND's schedule for 2026. Only 10 games scheduled so far, but the other 2 additions will just MAC or Sun Belt teams. They basically play no one and will absolutely cakewalk to the playoffs next year. It's pathetic. 

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2 hours ago, Wulaw Horn said:

Why?  So that the game could completely suck, everyone could have shit all to watch (instead of bama v Michigan in OT in the rose bowl) and Michigan could essentially have a bye?  It was a billion percent the right decision. 

They wouldve been the 3 seed if they made it. So we wouldve been playing Michigan at the Rose Bowl. 

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12 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

BTW, all of this talk about schedule strength and who deserves to be in and blah blah blah, for those frustrated with Notre Dame basically playing a 2 game schedule, losing both, and still all but certain to be in barring Pitt or Navy saving the day, do not go look at ND's schedule for 2026. Only 10 games scheduled so far, but the other 2 additions will just MAC or Sun Belt teams. They basically play no one and will absolutely cakewalk to the playoffs next year. It's pathetic. 

They should be considered G5 and only be eligible as a highest rated G5 team until they join a real conference.

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31 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

BTW, all of this talk about schedule strength and who deserves to be in and blah blah blah, for those frustrated with Notre Dame basically playing a 2 game schedule, losing both, and still all but certain to be in barring Pitt or Navy saving the day, do not go look at ND's schedule for 2026. Only 10 games scheduled so far, but the other 2 additions will just MAC or Sun Belt teams. They basically play no one and will absolutely cakewalk to the playoffs next year. It's pathetic. 

They do have some better teams coming up in 2027 and beyond with Auburn, Texas, Bama, Indiana, Florida

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1 hour ago, Josef Pwag said:

No, it is not. For years, the college football playoff had their criteria posted on their website. It specifically said that the committee would consider important injuries. FSU had an important injury to the most important position on the field. FSU was not only aware of this, they (and everyone else) voted for and accepted this criteria for the committee. Why this is confusing for you is strange.  

not going to look it up, you can research and counter if you wish, but that caveat was meant/intended to account for a loss that had *already* *occurred* due to a key player being out injured

it was never intended, and i do not think the language stated, that the caveat in question allowed the committee to discount a ranking based on losses that were *going* *to* occur

as ctj posted, nolenation thinks of 2023 the way we think of teaff, 08 lubbock, 08 switzer, 15 oSu, etc.

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1 hour ago, The_Great_Hornsby said:

They wouldve been the 3 seed if they made it. So we wouldve been playing Michigan at the Rose Bowl. 

...and Dusty Mangum highlights.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

BTW, all of this talk about schedule strength and who deserves to be in and blah blah blah, for those frustrated with Notre Dame basically playing a 2 game schedule, losing both, and still all but certain to be in barring Pitt or Navy saving the day, do not go look at ND's schedule for 2026. Only 10 games scheduled so far, but the other 2 additions will just MAC or Sun Belt teams. They basically play no one and will absolutely cakewalk to the playoffs next year. It's pathetic. 

I thought I saw an article recently that ACC will start scheduling them more vs Miami fsu Clemson. Not that those teams are great but ACC I believe is trying to make their schedules look “better”

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6 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Florida would smash Rutgers 

Florida is still trash, though and the fact we lost to them, was pathetic. 

Same as Arkansas. They got blasted by Notre Dame or someone like that, the SEC said you can't pimp that win because Arkansas is terrible. But when aggy and other SEC teams barely beat them, it's just the grind of the SECSEC.

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2 minutes ago, Vic Mackey said:

Florida is still trash, though and the fact we lost to them, was pathetic. 

Same as Arkansas. They got blasted by Notre Dame or someone like that, the SEC said you can't pimp that win because Arkansas is terrible. But when aggy and other SEC teams barely beat them, it's just the grind of the SECSEC.

Preaching to the choir on how shitty of a loss that Florida loss is. Unacceptable performance that game by us

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4 hours ago, fellside said:

The interesting thing to me is I've already heard talk about a 9-3 Texas team being in from Herbstreit, Ryen Russillo, and Todd Mcshay. Last year people hyped up South Carolina a little too late, and people had dumped on Alabama before the hype train could commence.

This time it seems like pro-SEC types are anticipating the 9-3 team ahead of time.  They don't want a repeat of last year. That goes for OU as well.

Scenario 1: beat Georgia, I think we move up to #6 or so. Stomp Arkansas. Lose to A&M, probably drop to #10. 

Scenario 2: lose close to Georgia, probably drop to #17 or so. Stomp Arkansas. Beat A&M, move up to #10. 

Personally I'd rather just imagine a world where we go 10-2 because why suffer twice by worrying?

Even Joel Klatt is saying 9-3 Texas is likely in. That's not a pro-SEC voice like the other ones I mentioned.

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Guys. After playing an awesome 18 holes today in Newport Beach and thinking about.  I think a 9-3 Texas gets in if a whole bunch of other things happen too. But it’s ours to lose.  So let’s win the whole goddamn thing 

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I had no idea there were so many Catholics on Surly. 

Multiple people have been defending them in this thread and their 0-2 season. 0-2 season cause that's their record against teams that aren't shit. 

And the 2 "great" teams they beat? Aggie and fraudulent Miami from the shit conference ACC that they don't even lead. 

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Games of consequence this weekend:

#5 Georgia @ Miss St.     11:00   ESPN

#7 BYU  @  #8 Tx Tech    11:00   ABC

#3 aggy @ #22  Missouri  2:30   ABC

LSU   @  #4  Bama             6:30   ABC

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Would be interesting to see who gets in if the following happens - 

Texas wins out, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

OU wins out, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Ole Miss wins out, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

ATM loses 1 to Texas, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

Bama loses 1 to OU, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

Georgia loses 1 to TX, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Maybe all 6 would get in, but who would be sitting home if they had to pick 5 of those?  Hard to ignore any of the 4 blue bloods at 10-2 (giving GA a blue blood day pass), while Ole Miss and ATM sitting nervously at 11-1.  And someone will have another loss from the CCG.  

I'm too lazy to figure out who goes to the SEC title game with the 4 way tie in this situation, but I'd guess that might further stir the pot for CFP.  

While very unlikely everything plays out that way, the only remaining games that wouldn't be chalk are Texas/Georgia and OU/Bama on the road.       

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7 hours ago, closetojumping said:

ACC title game in Louisville, in one of the most unwatchable games of the last decade

I had forgotten about this debacle. It was like watching middle school football. My god. 

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41 minutes ago, blutow said:

Would be interesting to see who gets in if the following happens - 

Texas wins out, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

OU wins out, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Ole Miss wins out, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

ATM loses 1 to Texas, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

Bama loses 1 to OU, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

Georgia loses 1 to TX, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Maybe all 6 would get in, but who would be sitting home if they had to pick 5 of those?  Hard to ignore any of the 4 blue bloods at 10-2 (giving GA a blue blood day pass), while Ole Miss and ATM sitting nervously at 11-1.  And someone will have another loss from the CCG.  

I'm too lazy to figure out who goes to the SEC title game with the 4 way tie in this situation, but I'd guess that might further stir the pot for CFP.  

While very unlikely everything plays out that way, the only remaining games that wouldn't be chalk are Texas/Georgia and OU/Bama on the road.       

That would put Texas and Bama in the CCG

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7 hours ago, closetojumping said:

BTW, all of this talk about schedule strength and who deserves to be in and blah blah blah, for those frustrated with Notre Dame basically playing a 2 game schedule, losing both, and still all but certain to be in barring Pitt or Navy saving the day, do not go look at ND's schedule for 2026. Only 10 games scheduled so far, but the other 2 additions will just MAC or Sun Belt teams. They basically play no one and will absolutely cakewalk to the playoffs next year. It's pathetic. 

Norte Dame should be sued for being a fraud.  

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1 hour ago, blutow said:

Would be interesting to see who gets in if the following happens - 

Texas wins out, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

OU wins out, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Ole Miss wins out, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

ATM loses 1 to Texas, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

Bama loses 1 to OU, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

Georgia loses 1 to TX, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Maybe all 6 would get in, but who would be sitting home if they had to pick 5 of those?  Hard to ignore any of the 4 blue bloods at 10-2 (giving GA a blue blood day pass), while Ole Miss and ATM sitting nervously at 11-1.  And someone will have another loss from the CCG.  

I'm too lazy to figure out who goes to the SEC title game with the 4 way tie in this situation, but I'd guess that might further stir the pot for CFP.  

While very unlikely everything plays out that way, the only remaining games that wouldn't be chalk are Texas/Georgia and OU/Bama on the road.       

My guess Bama would be on the outside looking in.   The loss to FSU would really bite them in the ass because everyone else has better loses and wins.    We’d redeem ourselves with two quality wins late over top five teams and wins over a ranked Vandy and OU who would’ve beaten Bama in your scenario would virtually cancel out our loss to Florida.  

Who gets in the SEC title game?  Who the heck knows?  It might be like some of the math that has to be done to figure high school football seeding where positive and negative points are used in head to head contests.   Honestly if we were to finish out beating UGA and aggy, it might be to our advantage to sit out the SEC Title game and secure our position at possibly hosting a first round playoff game and why risk getting that third loss and allow the media narrative to dictate it either way.  

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21 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Ok. Is the argument that Bama, Ole Miss, and UGA should be replaced with Utah, Georgia Tech, and Louisville? 

Ole Miss in particular should wait until they have done something besides win one score games. 

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13 minutes ago, notre dame joe said:

Ole Miss in particular should wait until they have done something besides win one score games. 

I'd love to see Notre Dame/SMU in University Park. 

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6 hours ago, blutow said:

Would be interesting to see who gets in if the following happens - 

Texas wins out, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

OU wins out, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Ole Miss wins out, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

ATM loses 1 to Texas, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

Bama loses 1 to OU, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

Georgia loses 1 to TX, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Maybe all 6 would get in, but who would be sitting home if they had to pick 5 of those?  Hard to ignore any of the 4 blue bloods at 10-2 (giving GA a blue blood day pass), while Ole Miss and ATM sitting nervously at 11-1.  And someone will have another loss from the CCG.  

I'm too lazy to figure out who goes to the SEC title game with the 4 way tie in this situation, but I'd guess that might further stir the pot for CFP.  

While very unlikely everything plays out that way, the only remaining games that wouldn't be chalk are Texas/Georgia and OU/Bama on the road.       

 

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In this bonkers scenario you have Alabama vs Ole Miss in Atlanta. So unless one of those teams is boat-raced in that game, you'd have to think they are both in. 

Then if you have Texas, Georgia and Oklahoma all in a pile, you can just take head to head and you would have Texas in front of both of them. 

And if Texas also beat A&M, you would see Texas ranked ahead of them too. 

So strangely you could see:

1. Ohio State/Indiana

2.Ohio State/Indiana loser (if good game) 

3. SEC championship winner

4. Texas

5. Texas A&M

6. SEC championship loser (in a non blow out) 

7. Big 12 Winner if 12-0 BYU or 11-1 Texas Tech

8. Oregon if 11-1

9. Georgia

10. Oklahoma

11. ACC winner

12. G6 team

In this case if you had those 6 SEC teams at 10-2 or better, with Bama and Texas, OU and Georgia being the 10-2, and Bama being in SEC CG, you would push Notre Dame and a second ACC or Big 12 team out. 

Because it would come down to comparing OU and Georgia versus those teams:

OU would have losses to top 5 Texas, and top 5/6 Ole Miss.

Georgia would have losses to top 5 Texas and top 5/6 Alabama

Notre Dame would have losses top 5 A&M and who knows, but not top 15 Miami

If Louisville won ACC champ, GA Tech would have losses to Top 10 Georgia, unranked NC State and No. 11 Louisville (for example)

If GA Tech won ACC, Louisville would have losses to No. 11 Ga Tech, Top 20 UVA... (11-1 Louisville, with only an OT loss to UVA, losing close to GA Tech in ACC title, would make it tough call between them and OU/Georgia for final spot). 

This is really the only place where they would need to break out the talk of SOR and strength of schedule, as it would probably end up not even close between 11-1 and ACC loser, and for example 11-1 and Big 12 conference game loser BYU. 

If they got into the SOS argument to choose all the at largest, it would clearly separate out the Big 12 and ACC teams (even if only had 1 regular season loss, as they would be so so far behind the SEC clump) and while ND would be closer, it wouldn't be that close, plus comparing resumes (best wins and losses) it also wouldn't be close. 

I honestly don't think it would be that difficult to see in that scenario (which isn't going to happen) all 6 SEC teams. 

 

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8 hours ago, blutow said:

Would be interesting to see who gets in if the following happens - 

Texas wins out, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

OU wins out, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Ole Miss wins out, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

ATM loses 1 to Texas, 11-1 w 1 SEC loss

Bama loses 1 to OU, 10-2 w 1 SEC loss

Georgia loses 1 to TX, 10-2 w 2 SEC losses

Maybe all 6 would get in, but who would be sitting home if they had to pick 5 of those?  Hard to ignore any of the 4 blue bloods at 10-2 (giving GA a blue blood day pass), while Ole Miss and ATM sitting nervously at 11-1.  And someone will have another loss from the CCG.  

I'm too lazy to figure out who goes to the SEC title game with the 4 way tie in this situation, but I'd guess that might further stir the pot for CFP.  

While very unlikely everything plays out that way, the only remaining games that wouldn't be chalk are Texas/Georgia and OU/Bama on the road.       

A couple of things won’t happen:

1. One conference isn’t getting half the slots. The SEC isn’t going to get six in almost any scenario. At that point you’re leaving out either the second place Big Ten team, a two loss Notre Dame, or a Big XII runner up in favor of a sixth SEC team.
 

2. Two 11-1 SEC teams aren’t getting bumped for conference mates with worse overall records. MAYBE one if something happened like looking completely overmatched in a loss and another team played lights out in the CCG.

The CCG winner will almost certainly get a boost and will be in. The loser, if it takes them to two losses and not 3, and especially if they play well in the CCG. And they will figure out some reason to bump one or maybe two of the remaining SEC teams. The final outcome will be tied heavily to who advances to the CCG and the winner will get credit (relatively) and the loser (relatively) not get heavily punished. 

Being a blue blood won’t play a role. The committee last year elevated SMU over a 9-3 Bama with better wins and a tougher slate. Pretty good data point that they aren’t thinking about ratings or prestige. 

SOS/SOR will be talked about but message boards overindex this stuff and tend to overstate perceived differences in the extreme. The committee might forgive an extra loss for a team if the difference in SOS is something like 25 or 30 spots. If it’s two SEC teams with SOS at like 10 and 15, they take the better record absent something like a really bad H2H loss. SOS/SOR aren’t scientific and a gap of 5-10 spots contains a lot of noise and subjectivity. 
 

The last thing is that while “good” OOC losses might not be punished, that doesn’t mean they will be credited as a good win or even a regular win. Two very different things. At best the loss is memory holed.  

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16 hours ago, fellside said:

The interesting thing to me is I've already heard talk about a 9-3 Texas team being in from Herbstreit, Ryen Russillo, and Todd Mcshay. Last year people hyped up South Carolina a little too late, and people had dumped on Alabama before the hype train could commence.

This time it seems like pro-SEC types are anticipating the 9-3 team ahead of time.  They don't want a repeat of last year. That goes for OU as well.

Scenario 1: beat Georgia, I think we move up to #6 or so. Stomp Arkansas. Lose to A&M, probably drop to #10. 

Scenario 2: lose close to Georgia, probably drop to #17 or so. Stomp Arkansas. Beat A&M, move up to #10. 

Personally I'd rather just imagine a world where we go 10-2 because why suffer twice by worrying?

What scenario has us playing in the CCG and who would our opponent likely be? Seems like having to play that game is a liability at this point 

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14 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

not going to look it up, you can research and counter if you wish, but that caveat was meant/intended to account for a loss that had *already* *occurred* due to a key player being out injured

it was never intended, and i do not think the language stated, that the caveat in question allowed the committee to discount a ranking based on losses that were *going* *to* occur

I looked it up.

You are 100% wrong.

"other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team's performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance"

 

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Here is a link to an article that mentions this:

https://www.nytimes.com/athletic/1389110/2019/11/19/four-questions-college-football-playoff-rankings-alabama-lsu/

Just like in politics, it is fucking amazing how stupid people just invent bullshit out of the blue in their minds and think it is correct. 

 

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2. Will Alabama’s ranking be affected by Tua Tagovailoa’s season-ending injury?

The short answer: Probably not right now, but eventually. The committee is explicitly told to consider the following as it evaluates and compares teams: “Other relevant factors such as key injuries that may have affected a team’s performance during the season or likely will affect its postseason performance.”

 

 

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