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Charlie Kirk assassinated at an event in Utah (by a 22 YO groyper)


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3 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

The only meaningful thing democrats should do at this point, if they ever get all 3 branches, is to completely pull fox license and cite all the made up bullshit lawsuits. But we all know democrats are giant pussies.

I would suggest going bigger. The days after the next Dem president is sworn in, he should prevail on the Democratic Congress to pass legislation to expand the Supreme Court by 4 and have his nominees ready for a vote post haste.

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For fucks sake. TEA threatening to take action against teachers for social media comments on assassination. 
They sign a Code of Ethics which governs all kinds of "personal life" stuff. They can't say being gay is "bad" on their personal FB page , for example. You okay with them not being able to post that? Some districts don't like it if a teacher posts a photo of them holding a margaritas or in a bikini. I know a teacher that got in trouble because she went out drinking with one of her students' moms and posted about it on FB. Maybe you think it's okay to post stuff about how certain races are always the ones causing trouble? White teachers have been in trouble for singing along to rap songs on TikTok and using the n-word that is in the lyrics. You okay with that? Or do you only get upset when they are punished for something you agree with?

Lot of stupid people out there without filters who think they can do or say whatever. I doubt half of the people on this site would post even 10% of what they do if we were required to use our real names and everything was searchable via Google. I know I'd probably be in trouble for stuff I post in the IPIHB section.

Btw - my wife is a teacher. She doesn't even comment on or "like" posts that some of her "friends" post that are political or potentially inflammatory because too many people like to look up who reacted "in the wrong way" and start contacting employers to complain.
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1 hour ago, Satchel said:

I would suggest going bigger. The days after the next Dem president is sworn in, he should prevail on the Democratic Congress to pass legislation to expand the Supreme Court by 4 and have his nominees ready for a vote post haste.

This being Democrats we're talking about, they probably couldn't whip enough votes in their own caucus to change Senate rules to get rid of the filibuster and pass said legislation.

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2 hours ago, Anastasis said:

If it was a script, most likely the perp that sent the messages and was planning the thing for a week. 

Come on guys. 

The problem with your theory is it doesn't address the weird syntax and punctuation. If it read like a 22 yr old no one would say shit. Tik tok is full of videos with people making fun of these texts. Its not some far out conspiracy theory like you say it is. 

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How long til Kimmel & Colbert get together and start a podcast? Then when the Daily Show gets the inevitable ax from supersensitive Trump, the TDS crew can join them as well.

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5 minutes ago, Thatguy said:

The problem with your theory is it doesn't address the weird syntax and punctuation. If it read like a 22 yr old no one would say shit. Tik tok is full of videos with people making fun of these texts. Its not some far out conspiracy theory like you say it is. 

Yeah my immediate reaction was that it read like a conversation from the1800s or something. Seems like I wasn't the only one.

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41 minutes ago, wood said:

Yeah my immediate reaction was that it read like a conversation from the1800s or something. Seems like I wasn't the only one.

A conversation where the shooter explains that he was planning on never telling anyone about it until he died of old age.  Except for the fact that he supposedly left a note saying "HURR DURR I'M GONNA SHOOT CHARLIE KIRK!" and specifically told his trans lover where to find it. Then proceeds to tell his trans lover every little thing involving the shooting that happened over text down to the grainiest of minutiae like parked squad cars, vehicles lingering, and drop points.  Oh, and he also somehow manages to mess up his own meme that he engraved onto the bullet casings when speaking about it through the texts.  What he engraved was Notices Bulge OWO, yet in the texts he says notices bulge uwu.  

This ultra smart, 4.0, 35 on the ACT, full ride scholarship genius sure does sound like a fucking moron, don't he?  Doesn't seem to understand a lot of simple things like: there being cameras in public places and on peoples' houses and how that would allow the police to see his face and track his movements, how leaving the murder weapon almost right next to the scene of the crime was gonna be a problem, and how even if you delete text messages off your phone some carriers keep them for a certain amount of time and even if not, the messages can be recovered off the phone anyway, which makes confessing to everything over text a bit of a whoopsie.  

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2 hours ago, Modessit said:

They sign a Code of Ethics which governs all kinds of "personal life" stuff. They can't say being gay is "bad" on their personal FB page , for example. You okay with them not being able to post that? Some districts don't like it if a teacher posts a photo of them holding a margaritas or in a bikini. I know a teacher that got in trouble because she went out drinking with one of her students' moms and posted about it on FB. Maybe you think it's okay to post stuff about how certain races are always the ones causing trouble? White teachers have been in trouble for singing along to rap songs on TikTok and using the n-word that is in the lyrics. You okay with that? Or do you only get upset when they are punished for something you agree with?

Lot of stupid people out there without filters who think they can do or say whatever. I doubt half of the people on this site would post even 10% of what they do if we were required to use our real names and everything was searchable via Google. I know I'd probably be in trouble for stuff I post in the IPIHB section.

Btw - my wife is a teacher. She doesn't even comment on or "like" posts that some of her "friends" post that are political or potentially inflammatory because too many people like to look up who reacted "in the wrong way" and start contacting employers to complain.

Yes. I'm actually okay with that. Because it demonstrates either drunken looseness with words, or worse, an entitled comfortability with the word and lack of awareness. Not to mention the lack of awareness that you're being recorded. I guess you're so "dope" that you just walk around saying "nigga" to your homeboys? No. You'd get laughed out of any circle with actual homies in it. Get fucked.   

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6 minutes ago, SpiralOut said:

A conversation where the shooter explains that he was planning on never telling anyone about it until he died of old age.  Except for the fact that he supposedly left a note saying "HURR DURR I'M GONNA SHOOT CHARLIE KIRK!" and specifically told his trans lover where to find it. Then proceeds to tell his trans lover every little thing involving the shooting that happened over text down to the grainiest of minutiae like parked squad cars, vehicles lingering, and drop points.  Oh, and he also somehow manages to mess up his own meme that he engraved onto the bullet casings when speaking about it through the texts.  What he engraved was Notices Bulge OWO, yet in the texts he says notices bulge uwu.  

This ultra smart, 4.0, 35 on the ACT, full ride scholarship genius sure does sound like a fucking moron, don't he?  Doesn't seem to understand a lot of simple things like: there being cameras in public places and on peoples' houses and how that would allow the police to see his face and track his movements, how leaving the murder weapon almost right next to the scene of the crime was gonna be a problem, and how even if you delete text messages off your phone some carriers keep them for a certain amount of time and even if not, the messages can be recovered off the phone anyway, which makes confessing to everything over text a bit of a whoopsie.  

This isn't actually bad, you just need to put trans in quotes or add an asterisk or something because transmaxxing needs to be something the mainstream picks up however fucker it seems. Its a huge piece of this. Like these kids go so far right with Fuentes and these fucks that they actually fall over the continuum and start over on the farthest side of the spectrum. So far right and inceled that you prison bitch your sexiest homie in the name of defying mainstream culture and owning the libs? Everybody get in the big gay pile!!!

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6 hours ago, RomaVicta said:

I have stated and still believe that we'd be better off if white men were made to step away from running things for a lengthy period of time. I often refer to Henry Rollins who wrote something to the effect:

You know, they say it's a man's world. Well, so far it's a poorly run carnage fest.

I concur. I've never said it was a realistic wish, but I would like to see women and minorities in control. Read An Indigenous People's History of the US. It's a perfect record.

I don't give a shit about attracting white men or joining them in a political movement where the above is not at least recognized to some extent. I've also written many times that constant self-congratulation is not a good approach in any movement.

Not all white men are bad. Many of us are just blind. Me included. I vote for women and minorities unless the choice is disastrous. That's where change would come even if the desire for it is futile.

Thanks for responding.

Just to be clear because I haven’t seen this before, Kirk was a racist because he disagrees with DEI initiatives and said SJL was an idiot. (which she was). But openly suggesting to remove all white men from government based on their gender and skin color is a-ok?

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14 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Just to be clear because I haven’t seen this before, Kirk was a racist because he disagrees with DEI initiatives and said SJL was an idiot. (which she was). But openly suggesting to remove all white men from government based on their gender and skin color is a-ok?

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On 9/16/2025 at 1:50 PM, used2b said:

 Again the book is Blackpill by Elle Reeve. Or just look up any of her writings or podcast visits, etc. 

Found this on Spotify.

Will check it out

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1 hour ago, Enchubben said:

Just to be clear because I haven’t seen this before, Kirk was a racist because he disagrees with DEI initiatives and said SJL was an idiot. (which she was). But openly suggesting to remove all white men from government based on their gender and skin color is a-ok?

No, you're not being clear. You're taking the side of the poor, oppressed white men WHO FUCKING OWN AND RUN JUST ABOUT EVERYTHING. 

You take the position that racism goes both ways when, actually, one side has been known to operate out of racism while the other side is subject to it. Or perhaps you see the American Experience being the same for all since its inception.

I am a white man. I think white men running the country from a sense of superiority to non-white men has caused a lot of problems. White man government in this country has led to the poorly run carnage fest referred to earlier. I'd like to see a stop to it. I've stated that I'd like to see white men step aside for about 20 years. I haven't recommended nor would I support laws or extra-legal efforts to round them up into concentration camps or "holding camps" cheerfully named Alligator Alcatraz by masked, armored, unidentifiable, heavily-armed thugs motoring around in SUVs and military vehicles.

You are correct in the quoted post that someone is indeed an idiot. Or willfully obtuse.

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Just to be clear because I haven’t seen this before, Kirk was a racist because he disagrees with DEI initiatives and said SJL was an idiot. (which she was). But openly suggesting to remove all white men from government based on their gender and skin color is a-ok?

Yes. White men have been the oppressor class forever, so yes, it’s fine. That’s also why it’s not racists when minority says fuck white men - they are fighting back against the oppressive class.
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3 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Just to be clear because I haven’t seen this before, Kirk was a racist because he disagrees with DEI initiatives and said SJL was an idiot. (which she was). But openly suggesting to remove all white men from government based on their gender and skin color is a-ok?

It’s a start. 

Posted
14 minutes ago, speed817 said:

What the actual fuck???

 

I’ve been saying this from the beginning. All of these Netanyahu posts about Charlie and what Charlie stood for regarding Israel are fucking weird.

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24 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Yikes. I’ll say this, kudos for owning up to your racist, sexist ideologies. 

Compare and contrast to Charlie’s views on race: 

 

All he wanted was to live in a World where people are color blind and judged by their actions and content of their character…. and also pilots, congresswomen, judges, and First ladies are only white.  Modern day MLK, IMO.

At least people in the ‘60s admitted they thought others were inferior.  You lie to yourself just to be able to sleep at night.

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9 hours ago, chainsaw said:

Tucker is much, much smarter than Trump. Which is what makes him very dangerous if he were to have political aspirations. Unlike Trump, Tucker Carlson understands that you need the support of the masses before you graduate from G5 to P4 authoritarian fascism. If you make the leap without the resources to do so, the program falls apart.

Karl Rove on the other hand, I don't know what his deal is these days.

I don't think Rove has ever been very MAGA.  That's not to say he's not a supporter of P2025/common gooder type stuff, I just don't think he likes the gross populism and the deviance from conservative political aims that Trump MAGA indulges.

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7 hours ago, Zeus said:

lol the thread still titled “by a groyper” you boomers are hilarious 

 

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You realize that these are both fake posts, right? How can someone possibly be this gullible?

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52 minutes ago, Enchubben said:

Yikes. I’ll say this, kudos for owning up to your racist, sexist ideologies. 

Compare and contrast to Charlie’s views on race: 

 

You are such a useful idiot. Why did Kirk target the Austin Fire Chief for excessive Kerr county flood deaths?

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41 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

All he wanted was to live in a World where people are color blind and judged by their actions and content of their character…. and also pilots, congresswomen, judges, and First ladies are only white.  Modern day MLK, IMO.

At least people in the ‘60s admitted they thought others were inferior.  You lie to yourself just to be able to sleep at night.

Yeah, I've always said I have way more respect for those that just say fuck it and wear a white hood than those that twist themselves into intellectually dishonest knots to try to keep up a veneer of respectability. That shit is manipulative and insulting. 

It also shows, that on some level they know they're wrong but they don't want to admit it because at the end of the day, they're so invested in the idea that deep down they're "special" because they were born at the top of the hegemonic hierarchy and admitting to fucked up systemic issues faced by other groups challenges their entire understanding of their place in the world. 

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5 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

This ultra smart, 4.0, 35 on the ACT, full ride scholarship genius sure does sound like a fucking moron, don't he?  Doesn't seem to understand a lot of simple things like: there being cameras in public places and on peoples' houses and how that would allow the police to see his face and track his movements, how leaving the murder weapon almost right next to the scene of the crime was gonna be a problem, and how even if you delete text messages off your phone some carriers keep them for a certain amount of time and even if not, the messages can be recovered off the phone anyway, which makes confessing to everything over text a bit of a whoopsie.  

He is also someone who decided to assassinate someone.  The dude had problems that the ACT doesn't really measure.  There are plenty of people with 4.0 GPAs who aren't geniuses, and there are plenty of geniuses who do really stupid shit.   

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There are a lot of kids who are book smart but not socially mature or good with decision making. They lack "street smarts" since they are so online. Covid screwed up a lot of kids and set them back even further. Then they stay online all the time and makes them even more socially immature. 

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23 minutes ago, Tuco said:

He is also someone who decided to assassinate someone.  The dude had problems that the ACT doesn't really measure.  There are plenty of people with 4.0 GPAs who aren't geniuses, and there are plenty of geniuses who do really stupid shit.   

religious indoctrination is child abuse

Posted
13 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

You can fake discord messages using f12 function and changing text for screenshot purposes.

 

Here is a link on how to do it for those unaware: https://www.wikihow.com/Fake-Discord-Messages-Using-Inspect-Element

Right. I'm not questioning how someone could possibly make a fake image for a screenshot. I'm questioning how you do that without having everyone else on his discord call their local news station and showing what was actually said. How do you pull something like fake texts or discord messages off without having it blow up in your face in less than a month?

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Reminder that the first real indicator of where Russia was going (their media market in the 1990s was free-wheeling and actually excellent in a lot of places) was when the Kremlin made a show about puppets stop using a puppet of him they didn’t like.  Then in 2001 they forced a sale of the network to Gazprom and then in 2002 just killed the show. There was also a blowup over a program that upset the Kremlin about some bombings of apartments blamed on Chechens. 

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7 hours ago, UpperWestside said:

She’s a racist and a trash person.

Sorry, but I’m about to go full stream of consciousness here. Reader beware.

She’s in a full mental health decline and crisis that’s she’s obviously self medicating for while being enabled by the people around her. The enabling validates her new ‘normal’ mental state which only makes matters worse.

She does need help but isn’t going to get it. 
The fact that she has any say in how the US government works, is beyond frightening. She’d have been let go from pretty much any regular job by now due to her condition which probably would have pushed her to get the help she needed.
 

This is my Holiday Inn expertise of course and personal journey through broken brainism. One thing for those of you who never dealt with mood disorders that’s hard to explain is just how much you can start to question your own reality. 
Once out of the shit and looking back, it’s really scary how much you can become unmoored. Unmoored is the best way for me to describe it because I questioned all kinds of things that used to be a given. Relationships, my own worth, and what made me truly happy, etc. You’re incredibly vulnerable. I did gain some true incite, however. That’s at least one good thing. But there’s far more healthy ways to gain the incite I did. So I do not recommend.

Without therapy and medication, your vulnerable state can lead you to some dark corners. It’s like your own brain is going through an AI hallucination. Maybe that’s the closest biological analog to when ChatGPT is going off. 

So imagine, being this vulnerable, this ‘plastic’, and now you have people around you validating your ‘new realizations’ or confirming that what you thought was your reality before your current state was a lie, etc. 

Thats where she is at IMO. That’s why her marriage failed. It’s not accident this is happening also at middle age / around menopause. Add those stressors and  hormonal changes too and you’ve got yourself one crazy (sorry) cocktail of mental crisis here.

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6 hours ago, SpiralOut said:

A conversation where the shooter explains that he was planning on never telling anyone about it until he died of old age.  Except for the fact that he supposedly left a note saying "HURR DURR I'M GONNA SHOOT CHARLIE KIRK!" and specifically told his trans lover where to find it. Then proceeds to tell his trans lover every little thing involving the shooting that happened over text down to the grainiest of minutiae like parked squad cars, vehicles lingering, and drop points.  Oh, and he also somehow manages to mess up his own meme that he engraved onto the bullet casings when speaking about it through the texts.  What he engraved was Notices Bulge OWO, yet in the texts he says notices bulge uwu.  

This ultra smart, 4.0, 35 on the ACT, full ride scholarship genius sure does sound like a fucking moron, don't he?  Doesn't seem to understand a lot of simple things like: there being cameras in public places and on peoples' houses and how that would allow the police to see his face and track his movements, how leaving the murder weapon almost right next to the scene of the crime was gonna be a problem, and how even if you delete text messages off your phone some carriers keep them for a certain amount of time and even if not, the messages can be recovered off the phone anyway, which makes confessing to everything over text a bit of a whoopsie.  

How about just telling your lover you killed someone without being absolutely sure they'd be happy or okay with it? That is wild by itself. 

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2 hours ago, Enchubben said:

Yikes. I’ll say this, kudos for owning up to your racist, sexist ideologies. 

Compare and contrast to Charlie’s views on race: 

 

 

It’s so precious of you to select this clip to try an believe this was his “view” when he has countless clips out there of him using his own words to contradict the very “views” you so hope he had. 

 

I’d ask how is it that you can’t even see his basic hypocrisy and grift, but that would require you to critically think.

 

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8 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Reminder that the first real indicator of where Russia was going (their media market in the 1990s was free-wheeling and actually excellent in a lot of places) was when the Kremlin made a show about puppets stop using a puppet of him they didn’t like.  Then in 2001 they forced a sale of the network to Gazprom and then in 2002 just killed the show. There was also a blowup over a program that upset the Kremlin about some bombings of apartments blamed on Chechens. 

You know that this regime isn't the brightest when they're going after speech first and guns last. 

One fascist move after another while allowing the citizens of the opposition to continue to arm themselves? Have fun.

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Just now, Foosters said:

You know that this regime isn't the brightest when they're going after speech first and guns last. 

One fascist move after another while allowing the citizens of the opposition to continue to arm themselves? Have fun.

Why? They cling to guns as the only amendment that matters. You save that for last before you strip every other 

Posted
1 minute ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Why? They cling to guns as the only amendment that matters. You save that for last before you strip every other 

 No they don't. If tomorrow an executive order went out to confiscate all firearms registered to registered voters of the Democratic party, they'd cheer it on.

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Just now, Foosters said:

 No they don't. If tomorrow an executive order went out to confiscate all firearms registered to registered voters of the Democratic party, they'd cheer it on.

But you don’t create the thing by taking away the amendment that your loyal followers find the biggest right they have. You take the oppositions freedoms first. 

Posted
9 hours ago, Satchel said:

I would suggest going bigger. The days after the next Dem president is sworn in, he should prevail on the Democratic Congress to pass legislation to expand the Supreme Court by 4 and have his nominees ready for a vote post haste.

Dude if you think there’s any meaningful chance that anything resembling the current platform of the Democratic Party will ever hold control of the presidency or congress (much less both at the same time) any time in the next 20 years, you haven’t been paying attention.  The time for that action has long since passed.

2 hours ago, speed817 said:

What the actual fuck???

 

Very convincing.  “Just wanna say we definitely did NOT kill him.” -guy who would totally have had him killed 

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