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2 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

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Sadly, this is the actual answer I think.  Nothing but the realization of pain, across a wide swathe of the population, will deprogram the cult.  Or at least get enough non-voters to pay attention.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

I already told you. Let MAGA do it's thing. It's already worked once for Democrats, and Donald Trump won't be on a ballot ever again.

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1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

You aren't winning the suburban moms that that. Perhaps you could be more specific. What do you want to burn?

Democrats already have suburban moms.

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Yes.

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The only hope is this administration, as evil as they are, are so incompetent they fall on their own faces and give an opportunity to change. 

That said, after 2024, I have zero faith in the American people to work together to change anything for the better. Even with the horrendous economy we have now, that is only getting worse, we have millions of people actively celebrating hatred and refusing to blame this administration. 

This admin has screwed things up so badly it looks exactly like intentional sabotage of the American economy. 

In reality, it's a venture capital government that doesn't care about anything but maxing their own profits by bleeding the country dry of all of it's assets and access to debt. 

 

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7 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

Sadly, this is the actual answer I think.  Nothing but the realization of pain, across a wide swathe of the population, will deprogram the cult.  Or at least get enough non-voters to pay attention.

The '60s is wondering what's taking so long.

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11 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I already told you. Let MAGA do its thing. It's already worked once for Democrats, and Donald Trump won't be on a ballot ever again. It's not like MAGA is all that popular. It's never gotten over 50% of the vote.

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3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

The '60s is wondering what's taking so long.

The 60s didn't have a 24/7 propaganda machine telling the population that everything was fine and anything that you felt wasn't fine was someone else's fault. 

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4 minutes ago, Biff Tannen said:

The 60s didn't have a 24/7 propaganda machine telling the population that everything was fine and anything that you felt wasn't fine was someone else's fault. 

You might want to read up on what was coming out of the White House regarding Vietnam.

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3 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

I'm not confident, I'm just sticking to it.

Can't be on the ballet if there are no elections.  He's already trial ballooned over and over and over about if we are at war,  can't have elections.  

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Just now, SmokeyTheBear said:

Can't be on the ballet if there are no elections.  He's already trial ballooned over and over and over about if we are at war,  can't have elections.  

Go for it, Donny. Let's get this shit over with. 

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9 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

You might want to read up on what was coming out of the White House regarding Vietnam.

I’m pretty sure he was referring to Fox News and Company.   There was plenty of anti-war counter information on the news every day.  Because olds like me were watching it.   

And you might want to remember the quaint notion of the uproar caused by the fact that Nixon had an “enemies list”, which included press who did not go along with the White House take.

 

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34 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Yes, exactly like J6.

Subsequent to J6, there was an election. Trump won. In the four years between elections, Trump won the people. Notably, he wasn't using murder as a marketing tool.

It is allowable to do things that aren't popular. But you have to eventually win the people over to your side. Trump did that. What is your plan?

I recognize that you're full of shit and not asking any of this in good faith, but I've been thinking for a while that there's something to this.

If the Texas Democratic party (as an example) wants to build any type of support, they should focus on winning hearts and minds through practical action that actually improves people's lives.  Words and rhetoric aren't going to move the needle.  People aren't going to pay attention to abstract concerns about "fascism vs democracy" or finger pointing at Republicans. 

Instead they should focus on things like:

  • Welfare checks, meals and other support for the elderly and disabled
  • Providing books to kids (better yet, daycare, after school care, summer camp)
  • City beautification efforts
  • Honoring every single veteran in a visible way on Veteran's Day
  • Recruiting and training CASA volunteers and foster parents
  • Sponsoring sports leagues, teams and facilities for kids
  • Providing free sex education resources and contraception

These are just a few ideas off the top of my head.  Some require a ton of resources.  Some invite more controversy and criticism than others.  But the point is to put the focus on things that matter to people.  Don't try to fight fire with fire.  The more the regime takes away, the more the opposition should step up and give away.

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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

Attacking duly appointed law enforcement officials for following orders is kind of what leftists do. Murder is their brand.

 

1 hour ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

“Following Orders”, it seems I’ve heard that phrase before.

 

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29 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

You aren't winning the suburban moms with that. Perhaps you could be more specific. What do you want to burn?

Figuratively I want to see those who voted for this to suffer.  Greatly if need be.  Which will likely cause fairly widespread pain.  But that is what is necessary. 

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2 minutes ago, Gatorubet said:

I’m pretty sure he was referring to Fox News and Company.   There was plenty of anti-war counter information on the news every day.  Because olds like me were watching it.   

And you might want to remember the quaint notion of the uproar caused by the fact that Nixon had an “enemies list”, which included press who did not go along with the White House take.

I know what he was talking about, but the so-called credibility gap started during Vietnam because LBJ's White House was straight up lying to the American people about the war.

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3 hours ago, Snake Diggity said:

The Supreme Court ruled that ICE can target people because of how they look.  No one is talking about it.

Teachers and entertainers are being fired en masse for publicly stating opinions about a far right wing content creator and his death.

The CDC has replaced multiple tiers of their leadership with anti-vaxxers and are changing the vaccination schedule to reduce access to vaccines.

The president is sending troops to large cities against the will of locally elected officials.

The list goes on.  But there’s enough evidence that this problem is now well beyond the point where participating in the existing system (I.e. voting and protesting) can be expected to work.

It’s pretty obvious that the only actions that can address this problem are very likely illegal in the eyes of the people currently in charge of creating, interpreting, and enforcing the law.  So this thread is probably a bad idea.

I don’t know what the answer is.  But I think we are all now faced with a clear choice to either get in line or risk our lives.  Any organized resistance is going to be very difficult given how easy it is for the government to surveil everyone.

Good luck to all. 

For good measure, lets just add the the FCC will change a long standing rule that limits corporate ownership of stations from 39% to 80%, thereby allowing NextStar, Sinclair and other right wing media companies to control much of what America consumes on radio and TV. THIS IS ALL PROJECT 25 STUFF.

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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

Right now, the leftists talking point is "we are going to kill you when you least expect it". It's pasted all over the "free media".

LINK, YOU PUSSY

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18 minutes ago, fuggled said:

I recognize that you're full of shit and not asking any of this in good faith, but I've been thinking for a while that there's something to this.

If the Texas Democratic party wants to build any type of support, they should focus on winning hearts and minds through practical action that actually improves people's lives.  Words and rhetoric aren't going to move the needle.  People aren't going to pay attention to abstract concerns about "fascism vs democracy" or finger pointing at Republicans. 

Instead they should focus on things like:

  • Welfare checks, meals and other support for the elderly and disabled
  • Providing books to kids (better yet, daycare, after school care, summer camp)
  • City beautification efforts
  • Honoring every single veteran in a visible way on Veteran's Day
  • Recruiting and training CASA volunteers and foster parents
  • Sponsoring sports leagues, teams and facilities for kids
  • Providing free sex education resources and contraception

These are just a few ideas off the top of my head.  Some require a ton of resources.  Some invite more controversy and criticism than others.  But the point is to put the focus on things that matter to people.  Don't try to fight fire with fire.  The more the regime takes away, the more the opposition should step up and give away.

 

Hell, just look to California. Below is a non-exhaustive list of legislation passed just in the last 2 years. Strangely, nothing about allowing kids to pee in litter boxes or after-birth abortion. California, despite its faults, churns out legislation year after year that assists the poor, marginalized, and working class. The rest of America calls it "socialism" and then proclaims that the CA model won't work anywhere else. Ok then.

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Health Care

Group health care service plans and disability insurance must cover infertility and fertility services under SB 729, including for LGBTQ+ people, generally starting in mid-2025. The California Association of Health Plans warns of higher premiums as a result.

And the governor signed AB 869, allowing small, rural, or “distressed” hospitals to get an extension of up to three years on a 2030 legal deadline for earthquake retrofits. But he vetoed SB 1432, which would have allowed all hospitals to apply for an extension of the deadline for up to five years.

Medical Debt

Credit reporting agencies will be prohibited from including medical debt in consumers’ credit reports under SB 1061, but last-minute amendments weakened the protections. Earlier this year, the Biden administration proposed federal rules barring unpaid medical bills from affecting patients’ credit scores.

Medi-Cal

Medi-Cal, which provides health care for about 15 million low-income people, will cover hospital emergency rooms’ treatment of psychiatric emergencies under AB 1316.

Mental Health

Newsom signed more than a dozen bills aimed at boosting behavioral health care, including through California’s new court-ordered treatment program.

Abortion

California will increase penalties for obstructing or impeding access to reproductive health care services, and for posting personal information or photographs of a patient or provider. These are currently misdemeanors; AB 2099 would make them punishable as misdemeanors or felonies.

Planned Parenthood Affiliates of California also backed AB 2085, smoothing approval of new health centers, and SB 1131, supporting California’s Family PACT (Planning, Access, Care, and Treatment) program for people with family incomes below 200% of the federal poverty level.

Aging

Newsom approved a dozen bills related to aging, including measures requiring increased training for law enforcement (AB 2541) and health care professionals (SB 639) in helping people with dementia. AB 1902 requires better access to prescription labels for those who have trouble seeing or who need translated instructions. And he signed another package of bills aimed more broadly at helping people with disabilities.

Violence Prevention

The state is taking more steps to deter gun violence with two dozen new laws. Among them, SB 53 increases requirements for safely storing firearms, in keeping with a push from the White House. AB 2621 will increase law enforcement training and revise policies on using gun violence restraining orders, while AB 2917 expands when courts can impose gun violence restraining orders.

And hospitals will eventually have to screen patients, family members, and visitors for weapons at entrances under AB 2975.

Substance Use

AB 1976 will require workplace first-aid kits to include naloxone or other drugs that can reverse opioid overdoses, while protecting those who administer the naloxone from civil liability.

Youth Welfare

California is the first state to generally bar public schools from providing food containing red dye 40 or any of five other synthetic food dyes used in products including Froot Loops and Flamin’ Hot Cheetos. AB 2316 is Democratic Assembly member Jesse Gabriel’s follow-up to his legislation last year that banned a chemical found in Skittles candy.

A bill to increase transparency with the use of restraints and seclusion rooms in state-licensed short-term residential therapeutic programs became law with some high-profile help from celebrity Paris Hilton. She backed SB 1043, which will also require the state Department of Social Services to post the information on a public dashboard.

And school districts’ sex education curricula must include menstrual health under AB 2229.

Health Care

Group health care service plans and disability insurance must cover infertility and fertility services under SB 729, including for LGBTQ+ people, generally starting in mid-2025. The California Association of Health Plans warns of higher premiums as a result.

Local health officers can inspect private detention facilities, including six immigration detention centers, under SB 1132.

And the governor signed AB 869, allowing small, rural, or “distressed” hospitals to get an extension of up to three years on a 2030 legal deadline for earthquake retrofits.

Medical Debt

Credit reporting agencies will be prohibited from including medical debt in consumers’ credit reports under SB 1061, but last-minute amendments weakened the protections. Earlier this year, the Biden administration proposed federal rules barring unpaid medical bills from affecting patients’ credit scores.

Medi-Cal

Medi-Cal, which provides health care for about 15 million low-income people, will cover hospital emergency rooms’ treatment of psychiatric emergencies under AB 1316.

Mental Health

Newsom signed more than a dozen bills aimed at boosting behavioral health care, including through California’s new court-ordered treatment program.

Abortion

California will increase penalties for obstructing or impeding access to reproductive health care services, and for posting personal information or photographs of a patient or provider. These are currently misdemeanors; AB 2099 would make them punishable as misdemeanors or felonies.

Planned Parenthood Affiliates of California also backed AB 2085, smoothing approval of new health centers, and SB 1131, supporting California’s Family PACT (Planning, Access, Care, and Treatment) program for people with family incomes below 200% of the federal poverty level.

Aging

Newsom approved a dozen bills related to aging, including measures requiring increased training for law enforcement (AB 2541) and health care professionals (SB 639) in helping people with dementia. AB 1902 requires better access to prescription labels for those who have trouble seeing or who need translated instructions. And he signed another package of bills aimed more broadly at helping people with disabilities.

Violence Prevention

Assault or battery against a doctor, physician, nurse, or other health care worker within an ER could bring up to a year in county jail, a $2,000 fine, or both under AB 977. That makes it the same maximum punishment as for assaulting a medical worker in the field. California law previously set a lesser penalty for assault within an ER.

The state is taking more steps to deter gun violence with two dozen new laws. Among them, SB 53 increases requirements for safely storing firearms, in keeping with a push from the White House. AB 2621 will increase law enforcement training and revise policies on using gun violence restraining orders, while AB 2917 expands when courts can impose gun violence restraining orders.

And hospitals will eventually have to screen patients, family members, and visitors for weapons at entrances under AB 2975.

Substance Use

AB 1976 will require workplace first-aid kits to include naloxone or other drugs that can reverse opioid overdoses, while protecting those who administer the naloxone from civil liability.

Under AB 1775, local jurisdictions will allow retailers to sell non-cannabis food and beverages and have live music and other performances in areas where cannabis consumption is allowed. Assembly member Matt Haney, a Democrat from San Francisco, said his intent is to allow Dutch-style cannabis coffeehouses. Newsom approved the measure despite vetoing Haney’s similar bill last year, amid critics’ concern that the measure would undermine California’s nation-leading effort outlawing indoor smoking.

Youth Welfare

California is the first state to generally bar public schools from providing food containing red dye 40 or any of five other synthetic food dyes used in products including Froot Loops and Flamin’ Hot Cheetos. AB 2316 is Democratic Assembly member Jesse Gabriel’s follow-up to his legislation last year that banned a chemical found in Skittles candy.

A bill to increase transparency with the use of restraints and seclusion rooms in state-licensed short-term residential therapeutic programs became law with some high-profile help from celebrity Paris Hilton. She backed SB 1043, which will also require the state Department of Social Services to post the information on a public dashboard.

And school districts’ sex education curricula must include menstrual health under AB 2229.

But Newsom vetoed AB 2442, which would have sped licensing for providers of gender-affirming care, and SB 954, which would have provided free condoms in high schools.

Women’s Health

Selling menstrual products with intentionally added PFAS, also known as “forever chemicals,” will be banned under AB 2515. PFAS, short for perfluoroalkyl and polyfluoroalkyl substances, have been linked to serious health problems.

AB 2527 is aimed at improving treatment of pregnant women who are incarcerated. Critics wanted the original version, which banned solitary confinement, and were upset when it was amended to allow up to five days of confinement if prison officials find a safety or security threat.

AB 518 is aimed at increasing participation in the CalFresh nutrition program, part of a package of healthy-food bills.

And under SB 1300, the public will get more notice when hospitals plan to close their maternity wards. The measure will increase the notice requirement to 120 days, up from the current 90.

Social Media

SB 1504 broadens California’s Cyberbullying Protection Act regulating social media platforms to apply to minors instead of pupils. Social media platforms that intentionally violate the law could face civil penalties of up to $10,000, along with compensatory and punitive damages. Those damages could be sought by a parent, a legal guardian, or various prosecutors. Under current law, damages are capped at $7,500 and may be pursued only by the state attorney general.

SB 976 restricts “addictive feeds” to minors, including banning social media notifications to minors during school hours.

And AB 3216 will limit the use of smartphones in schools.

SB 525 by Sen. María Elena Durazo, a Los Angeles Democrat, would raise the minimum wage for California’s lowest paid health workers to $25 an hour. This raise would apply to employees such as nursing assistants, medical techs and janitorial workers. 

SB 497 would mandate that the California Labor Commissioner’s office and state courts assume employers are illegally retaliating if they take certain disciplinary actions against a worker who in the prior 90 days has made a wage claim or a complaint about unequal pay. Employers would be able to rebut the retaliation assumption by showing that there is a legitimate, non-retaliatory reason for the employee discipline. 

SB 616, authored by Long Beach Democrat Lena Gonzalez, increases the number of paid sick days employers must provide to workers from three to five, starting in 2024. Proponents originally sought seven days, but it was reduced in the appropriations suspense file. The bill also extends protections against retaliation to workers who are in a union, but excludes provisions that would have granted railroad employees access to unpaid sick leave.

 SB 487, would prohibit health insurers and the state from penalizing medical providers who have been sanctioned in other states for performing abortions, gender-affirming care or procedures that are otherwise legal in California. Current law requires the state to automatically suspend Medi-Cal providers that have lost their license in other states or federal jurisdictions. The proposed law would not prevent the state from taking action in instances where providers lost their out-of-state license due to conduct that is illegal in California.

AB 28 by Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel, a Woodland Hills Democrat, would impose an 11% excise tax on retailers and manufacturers for sales of guns or ammunition. Modeled on a similar federal levy for wildlife conservation, the tax could bring in an estimated $160 million annually for violence intervention programs, school safety improvements and law enforcement efforts to confiscate guns from people who are prohibited from owning them.

AB 1078 would penalize school boards that ban books and other education materials based solely on the materials’ inclusion of history related to Black, Latino, Asian, Native American, LGBTQ people and other groups. It would amend the existing education code, which requires teaching materials to include the experiences and perspectives of diverse racial, ethnic and LGBTQ groups in curriculum. 

AB 5, by Assemblymember Rick Zbur, a Santa Monica Democrat, would require teachers to undergo an online, 1-hour training annually on how to support LGBTQ students. The training, which would be provided by the California Department of Education, would include information on clubs and other peer support groups, counseling services, anti-bullying and harassment policies, privacy and other topics. SB 760, proposed by Sen. Josh Newman, a Democrat from Fullerton, would require schools to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom, beginning in 2026. The bill would bring schools in line with California businesses and government offices, which the state has required to provide gender-neutral bathrooms since 2017.

AB 2319 was passed in an effort to improve enforcement of a 2019 law aimed at reducing the disproportionate rate of maternal mortality among Black women and other pregnant women of color.

AB 2527 is aimed at improving treatment of pregnant women who are incarcerated. Critics wanted the original version, which banned solitary confinement, and were upset when it was amended to allow up to five days of confinement if prison officials find a safety or security threat.

AB 518 is aimed at increasing participation in the CalFresh nutrition program, part of a package of healthy-food bills.

And under SB 1300, the public will get more notice when hospitals plan to close their maternity wards. The measure will increase the notice requirement to 120 days, up from the current 90.

AB 12, by San Francisco Democratic Assemblymember Matt Haney, limits the amount that landlords can require in security deposits to one month’s rent, rather than the previous two months’ rent. The bill aims to make securing housing more attainable for California renters, who often have to save up thousands of dollars to rent a home. 

AB 1418, by Inglewood Democratic Assemblymember Tina McKinnor, prohibits cities and counties from enacting “crime-free” housing programs and nuisance ordinances that require landlords to evict people when a household member is a convicted felon.

SB 497 would mandate that the California Labor Commissioner’s office and state courts assume employers are illegally retaliating if they take certain disciplinary actions against a worker who in the prior 90 days has made a wage claim or a complaint about unequal pay. Employers would be able to rebut the retaliation assumption by showing that there is a legitimate, non-retaliatory reason for the employee discipline. 

SB 616, authored by Long Beach Democrat Lena Gonzalez, increases the number of paid sick days employers must provide to workers from three to five, starting in 2024. Proponents originally sought seven days, but it was reduced in the appropriations suspense file. The bill also extends protections against retaliation to workers who are in a union, but excludes provisions that would have granted railroad employees access to unpaid sick leave.

 SB 487, would prohibit health insurers and the state from penalizing medical providers who have been sanctioned in other states for performing abortions, gender-affirming care or procedures that are otherwise legal in California. Current law requires the state to automatically suspend Medi-Cal providers that have lost their license in other states or federal jurisdictions. The proposed law would not prevent the state from taking action in instances where providers lost their out-of-state license due to conduct that is illegal in California.

AB 28 by Assemblymember Jesse Gabriel, a Woodland Hills Democrat, would impose an 11% excise tax on retailers and manufacturers for sales of guns or ammunition. Modeled on a similar federal levy for wildlife conservation, the tax could bring in an estimated $160 million annually for violence intervention programs, school safety improvements and law enforcement efforts to confiscate guns from people who are prohibited from owning them.

AB 1078 would penalize school boards that ban books and other education materials based solely on the materials’ inclusion of history related to Black, Latino, Asian, Native American, LGBTQ people and other groups. It would amend the existing education code, which requires teaching materials to include the experiences and perspectives of diverse racial, ethnic and LGBTQ groups in curriculum. 

AB 5, by Assemblymember Rick Zbur, a Santa Monica Democrat, would require teachers to undergo an online, 1-hour training annually on how to support LGBTQ students. The training, which would be provided by the California Department of Education, would include information on clubs and other peer support groups, counseling services, anti-bullying and harassment policies, privacy and other topics. SB 760, proposed by Sen. Josh Newman, a Democrat from Fullerton, would require schools to have at least one gender-neutral bathroom, beginning in 2026. The bill would bring schools in line with California businesses and government offices, which the state has required to provide gender-neutral bathrooms since 2017.

 

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Maybe this is already starting to happen but the Kimmel thing has given a real opportunity for those in the entertainment industry to hurt Disney with their wallets. Perfect opportunity to simply stop working for Disney owned and operated entertainment companies (instead of just virtue signaling on social media and/or at awards shows).   Will be interesting to see if any big names actually take that step.

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12 minutes ago, Foosters said:

 

Hell, just look to California. Below is a non-exhaustive list of legislation passed just in the last 2 years. Strangely, nothing about allowing kids to pee in litter boxes or after-birth abortion. California, despite its faults, churns out legislation year after year that assists the poor, marginalized, and working class. The rest of America calls it "socialism" and then proclaims that the CA model won't work anywhere else. Ok then.

 

and then there's this which I just saw:

https://edsource.org/2025/young-men-loneliness-crisis/741081

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Gov. Gavin Newsom is calling on 10,000 young men to serve as mentors, coaches and tutors through a new campaign called the California Men’s Service Challenge. 

The statewide initiative, announced on Tuesday, is the latest in an executive order directing agencies to address mental health in boys and young men. 

“We have an epidemic of loneliness, and so much of that is manifesting and metastasizing online in very profound and consequential ways, and last week only underscored that further,” said Newsom on Tuesday, referencing the killing of conservative activist Charlie Kirk at a Utah university campus. 

In California, boys and men age 15 to 44 die by suicide at three to four times the rate of women, often by firearms. Almost half of female homicide victims are also killed by a current or former intimate male partner. 

Over the course of a year, the state will partner with youth organizations, including Improve Your Tomorrow, Big Brothers Big Sisters of America, Mentor California, and the American Institute for Boys and Men, to recruit and train them as mentors for young boys. 

“The goal is to create consistent, positive relationships where men model integrity, empathy and community engagement while helping young men develop confidence and purpose,” Josh Fryday, the state’s chief service officer, told EdSource. 

Fryday said the initiative will include ongoing one-on-one and group mentoring, tutoring or reading programs, service projects, coaching youth sports and guiding young men through college and career exploration. It will be supported by California Volunteers, the state’s $275 million program for community service and civic engagement. 

 

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11 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Maybe this is already starting to happen but the Kimmel thing has given a real opportunity for those in the entertainment industry to hurt Trump with their wallets. Perfect opportunity to simply stop working for Trump allied and operated entertainment companies (instead of just virtue signaling on social media and/or at awards shows).   Will be interesting to see if any big names actually take that step.

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19 minutes ago, Skipper said:

Maybe this is already starting to happen but the Kimmel thing has given a real opportunity for those in the entertainment industry to hurt Disney with their wallets. Perfect opportunity to simply stop working for Disney owned and operated entertainment companies (instead of just virtue signaling on social media and/or at awards shows).   Will be interesting to see if any big names actually take that step.

I think we aren't the people that we (non-MAGA) think that we are and there will be no large sit-ins or strikes. TikTok, Twitch, The Voice, MNF, and FoxNews will continue to be up and running and so there will be relatively few with a will to suffer pain for reasons that they view to be relatively abstract. They aren't undocumented immigrants, they aren't public figures speaking out against Trump, they aren't college professors being told that they can't teach the truth. 

In fact, it was time those eggheads learned that nothing is better than the good ole USofA. And now that I think about it, I liked the Redskins logo and I'm tired of pressing English on the ATM. 

I don't think a few entertainers taking different jobs would make any difference whatsoever.

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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

I'm not arguing your viewpoints. You've already decided that conservatives are Nazis. I am talking from the MBA perspective, just basic marketing. What people sometimes say about Trump, that he was given billions of dollars of "free media" prior to 2016.

Let's assume your cause is just. Right now, the leftists talking point is "we are going to kill you when you least expect it". It's pasted all over the "free media". I am suggesting that you might want a better branding than assassination. What are you offering the public in exchange for armed revolution? You really need to up your marketing game.

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1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

I'm not arguing your viewpoints. You've already decided that conservatives are Nazis. I am talking from the MBA perspective, just basic marketing. What people sometimes say about Trump, that he was given billions of dollars of "free media" prior to 2016.

Let's assume your cause is just. Right now, the leftists talking point is "we are going to kill you when you least expect it". It's pasted all over the "free media". I am suggesting that you might want a better branding than assassination. What are you offering the public in exchange for armed revolution? You really need to up your marketing game.

What the fuck are you yammering about?

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45 minutes ago, SimonBolivar said:

I don't think a few entertainers taking different jobs would make any difference whatsoever.

I know Disney + has already been a money drain.  No idea what gets ratings on ABC.   But if actors from what ever the most popular shows either stopped working or let it be known they won't be extending their contract, it would definitely hurt Disney.  Or hell, if nobody showed up for the Oscar's that would make a statement.

I'm guessing hollywood is all talk and not more than a handful take any stand.  But in theory, if there are material financial implications at ABC/Disney, at least executives at the next media organization Trump/FCC attacks will have more to weigh when deciding what to do.  I mean Trump's administration intentionally put ABC between a rock and a hard place.  There were going to be financial implications either way.  They chose the administration and I hope collective effort makes the choice harder for the next organization put in that situation.  

 

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2 minutes ago, Skipper said:

I know Disney + has already been a money drain.  No idea what gets ratings on ABC.   But if actors from what ever the most popular shows either stopped working or let it be known they won't be extending their contract, it would definitely hurt Disney.  Or hell, if nobody showed up for the Oscar's that would make a statement.

I'm guessing hollywood is all talk and not more than a handful take any stand.  But in theory, if there are material financial implications at ABC/Disney, at least executives at the next media organization Trump/FCC attacks will have more to weigh when deciding what to do.  I mean Trump's administration intentionally put ABC between a rock and a hard place.  There were going to be financial implications either way.  They chose the administration and I hope collective effort makes the choice harder for the next organization put in that situation.  

 

Meh just charge $50 more for a reinforced scooter for the morbidly obese at WDW and give them a discount if they finance it with a Disney card at a low low 36% APR. And better raise Lightning Lane another $10 each and you know if you love your kids they have to go or else you are a terrible parent.

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49 minutes ago, Degenerate Gardner said:

No need to malign the special needs folks. Most are pure and good in heart.

Those goofy bastards are just about the best thing I've got going in this crazy world.

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If there was any chance at resistance it would have organized leadership at the top. Instead, the democrats are falling over themselves to give condolences for the death of a hate monger who called for their execution, while the entire republican party blamed them and calls for their arrest. 

Corporate America is so corrupt and weak they pre-emptively bent the knee. 

The entire "leadership" of the country is either fascist or fascist enablers. Democrat politicians are making their millions too. They have shown they arent going to risk that for the constitution, rule of law, or decency. They throw their hands up and say toothless bullshit like Schumer or nothing at all like most of the rest. They know they aren't leaders and will not fight. 

This county made fun of France for their government acquiescing to Hitler, but that country was less than 20 years removed from suffering the worst casualties of any nation in WW1. They had reason to not want the fight again. 

Americans have proven a thousand times more cowardly and corrupt. This government folded like a cheap tent at the first sign of fascism and just completely gave up. Trump spent 4 years lying and crying about the election after he lost. Harris showed up at the inauguration and fucking disappeared. These people have no liberal ideals. They're just opportunists who were looking to profit while nudging the fascism in slowly until trump came and just did it full stop. 

I think it's time to wipe all of our social media presence off the internet. Lay low and look for opportunities to move out of the country. I've completely deleted anything with my name on it, even though I never mentioned anything political on there. Going to talk to my wife about doing the same. Luckily, my kids dont use social media. 

Would probably be a good idea if Imma moved this forum to a 1000 rep minimum to access like the IPIHB. Get it out of being indexed. 

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Ignore the Texas hammer. He’s one of the dumbest people on the planet and you can’t educate the stupid. You have to get other people on the right side of this issue and then the morons like hammer will follow because they can’t think for themselves. They’ve been brainwashed by disinformation. Forget him. He’s worthless. 

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