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As we watched that trash last night, we tried to identify the most disappointing season in Texas history. If this team continues on like it’s going, this could be it:

1. Preseason #1 ranking blown

2. Epic QB recruit complete failure

3. Wasting one of the best Texas defenses in a very long time. 
4. Wasting it in a year with no dominant team.

5. Doing this all while a fat oaf an hour and a half away is undefeated with a team with far less talent. 

In many of the other disappointing years Texas at least accomplished something before blowing it. What other years were worse?

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First off, I think we got $995ed, both with Arch and whistling past the graveyard on all the talent we lost from OL and WR corps.  Second, this defense is not as good as last year's or the year before that.  Third, "dominant."

As to the third point, I think NIL is creating some kind of bizarre parity.

But yeah, this sucks.

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I don’t know man this defense is pretty damn good considering they are on the field all the time because of the shitty offense. If we could average a shitty 24-27ppg consistently they would be even better than they are. 

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Whether last years or this years is better is really not the important point. What’s important is that Texas is wasting an extremely good defense. 

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This season shows Texas has too many “insiders” who feed everyone what they want to hear so they maintain access to the program.

 

i mean this has been going on since Mack but still…

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21 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

I don’t know man this defense is pretty damn good considering they are on the field all the time because of the shitty offense. If we could average a shitty 24-27ppg consistently they would be even better than they are. 

They're good yeah.  Seems like maybe took a step back on the DL, maybe a bit improved in the secondary.

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18 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

They're good yeah.  Seems like maybe took a step back on the DL, maybe a bit improved in the secondary.

That’s exactly what we said last night. The LB’s have improved too. 

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Pre- and post-VY Mack did a great job of wasting elite talent on both sides of the ball. 

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11-2
11-2

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10-3
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12-1
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Our post VY QB left school as the all time winningest QB in CFB history…
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2010 has to be up there. We were #5 in the preseason, had a 5-star QB replacing a 3-year starter, also had a great defense, and went 5-7.  I suppose that record is still on the table for this team but I think we scratch out at least 2 more wins. 

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7 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:


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11-2
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10-3
10-3
12-1
13-1

Our post VY QB left school as the all time winningest QB in CFB history…

Yep, Our fans just say dumb shit all the time 

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Next week on the road will I thought show us a lot but it won’t. This is who we are and while we might win like the ou game or even last night it won’t change that we suck huge cock on offense and can’t be consistent even in a full game much less multiple games strung together. 

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21 minutes ago, Fastbreak said:


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10-3
10-3
12-1
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Our post VY QB left school as the all time winningest QB in CFB history…

Mack won a whole lot of games. But we also suffered some devastating losses with teams swimming in NFL talent. OU, Tech, Bama and even Colorado all took their turns beating us when we had the players to prevent it. I call that disappointment, in several cases much worse than this year's. 

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33 minutes ago, Duane Moore said:

2010 has to be up there. We were #5 in the preseason, had a 5-star QB replacing a 3-year starter, also had a great defense, and went 5-7.  I suppose that record is still on the table for this team but I think we scratch out at least 2 more wins. 

This was my initial thought as well, and I actually had this conversation with a friend.  

If I had to guess at this point, I'd say we're going to lose to Georgia and split with Vandy and aggy.  That would leave us 8-4 and headed to a bowl game instead of the playoff.  While that is a huge letdown after starting the season #1, it's not 5-7, and we're not in that old era of multi-year rebuilds.  We should have no problem coming into next year with a greatly improved O line and a more mature WR room and starting QB. 

So, I don't think there's any way that this season is as bad as 2010.  That was the beginning of a dozen years of being a national punchline, with a coach who no longer gave a shit.  Now, we should be right back to being a playoff contender next season.

 

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6 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

This was my initial thought as well, and I actually had this conversation with a friend.  

If I had to guess at this point, I'd say we're going to lose to Georgia and split with Vandy and aggy.  That would leave us 8-4 and headed to a bowl game instead of the playoff.  While that is a huge letdown after starting the season #1, it's not 5-7, and we're not in that old era of multi-year rebuilds.  We should have no problem coming into next year with a greatly improved O line and a more mature WR room. 

So, I don't think there's any way that this season is as bad as 2010.  That was the beginning of a dozen years of being a national punchline, with a coach who no longer gave a shit.  Now, we should be right back to being a playoff contender next season.

Oh, I think Mack gave a shit, alright.  He gave a shit about Mack.  But not much else.

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Year after shock the nation tour was atrocious. Year after the Georgia cotton bowl loss wasn’t good either.  This season is still ahead of both of those.

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We were talking about 5-7 type seasons vs seasons of unfulfilled expectations. While 5-7 seasons are obviously terrible, most of the time going into that type of season you knew they weren’t title contending caliber. So while those types of years are obviously disappointing, I think they are less disappointing than years when Texas really should be very good but then fails to deliver. 

The Miami Cotton Bowl season ended terrible but at least they had a conference championship and they improved from years of mediocrity. 

The Big 12 Championship fail with Simms was a big one, especially because they learned before game time that someone lost (Tennessee?) and that with a win they would go to the national championship game. 

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Just now, Dbeasy said:

We were talking about 5-7 type seasons vs seasons of unfulfilled expectations. While 5-7 seasons are obviously terrible, most of the time going into that type of season you knew they weren’t title contending caliber. So while those types of years are obviously disappointing, I think they are less disappointing than years when Texas really should be very good but then fails to deliver. 

The Miami Cotton Bowl season ended terrible but at least they had a conference championship and they improved from years of mediocrity. 

The Big 12 Championship fail with Simms was a big one, especially because they learned before game time that someone lost (Tennessee?) and that with a win they would go to the national championship game. 

I’m talking about the season after it. Ranked and fell of the map. Same in 84. Great seasons (like last year) followed by total garbage the next seasons. But take heart, I’m not seeing much else to compete with the dumpster fire that has become this season.

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2 hours ago, Pancho said:

This season shows Texas has too many “insiders” who feed everyone what they want to hear so they maintain access to the program.

 

i mean this has been going on since Mack but still…

This. 
 

It’s been a problem for a long time.  Look at the first post talking about how much more talent this team has than a rival. 
 

Based on what?

This has been a fanbase problem for a long time.  “We’re Texas so we must have the best talent and most NIL money and best facilities and best coaches because we’re Texas”.  Jump into reality at some point. 
 

What you want to believe and what you have been told to believe doesn’t mean it’s reality.  Do you really think Burton or Ketch or anyone else is going to put out a publication that says “well, Texas sucks and has no talent this season”?

Sunshine pumping sells.  How do you not know this by now?

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2 minutes ago, Vanilla Strange Gato said:

This. 
 

It’s been a problem for a long time.  Look at the first post talking about how much more talent this team has than a rival. 
 

Based on what?

This has been a fanbase problem for a long time.  “We’re Texas so we must have the best talent and most NIL money and best facilities and best coaches because we’re Texas”.  Jump into reality at some point. 
 

What you want to believe and what you have been told to believe doesn’t mean it’s reality.  Do you really think Burton or Ketch or anyone else is going to put out a publication that says “well, Texas sucks and has no talent this season”?

Sunshine pumping sells.  How do you not know this by now?

Definitely. 

For years and multiple coaches all we hear is we out talent everyone. It's certainly not true when it comes to the UGa and OSUs of world and it may not be true at all. 

This season, with the Arch hype and the failure to seriously temper OL expectations may be the worst $9.95 yoink in a long history of them. 

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Any season we beat OU, especially when they're higher ranked, automatically removes Texas from any "most disappointing season" consideration for me.

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It's always a crap shoot when you're breaking in a new QB and OL. 5-2 and the way we're doing is hard to watch, but it's not completely unexpected.

Is it disappointing that we're not 7-0? Sure. Winning is fun. Is it the most disappointing season ever? Not even close. 1997 was the most disappointed I've ever been. 2010 is up there too. We're only halfway through this one, so I'll let it play out before I decide just how disappointing it is.

Game thread rage for me is mostly a bit. I'm too old to get really disappointed or angry about sports. But boy is it fun to hyperbolically complain on an internet message board in real time. 

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Anyone who listens to 995ers needs to stop .

We lost a veteran qb , line , wrs and people just assumed we were going to reload and repeat again because arch derr

Yea Sarks screwing some things up , we aren't at OSU reload level , but the sky isn't falling down to Charlie Strong levels either .

Main thing I want to see going into next season is Sark focusing on the team at large and hiring an OC to focus on the offense 

 

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16 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's always a crap shoot when you're breaking in a new QB and OL. 5-2 and the way we're doing is hard to watch, but it's not completely unexpected.

Is it disappointing that we're not 7-0? Sure. Winning is fun. Is it the most disappointing season ever? Not even close. 1997 was the most disappointed I've ever been. 2010 is up there too. We're only halfway through this one, so I'll let it play out before I decide just how disappointing it is.

Game thread rage for me is mostly a bit. I'm too old to get really disappointed or angry about sports. But boy is it fun to hyperbolically complain on an internet message board in real time. 

Was there a #1 ranking coming into 1997 or 2010?

Was the first College Game Day of the season doing a long segment on why the starting QB should just be given the Heisman right now because he’s going to be so good?

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3 hours ago, Pancho said:

This season shows Texas has too many “insiders” who feed everyone what they want to hear so they maintain access to the program.

 

i mean this has been going on since Mack but still…

One thing is clear: both at Florida and last night Sark’s body language conveyed someone who didn’t want to be there. A neighbor who doesn’t watch football came over to return something that they borrowed. Looked at the tv saw the score and said “is that y’all’s Coach? He looks like Texas is getting beat really bad or something. You can still win this.” 
 

his body language isn’t the only thing but damn he barely reacted when we took the lead off the Shipley FG. Before we went to OT. He legit just shuffles down the field head down when the defense is on the field. 
 

@Thatguy is right about the RBs. His handpicked skill guys aren’t panning out in the same way these guys he didn’t pick that are showing to be playmakers are. Like he doesn’t want to move off his guys meanwhile Niblet pops up and he’s balling but like a happy accident. It’s clear he wanted to run everything thru Baxter and he has no pivot for that. You cannot half ass CEO as a HC and also call plays. It don’t work. And sark is not talented enough as an OC to overcome that. Whether we replace Arch or not. Sark is not talented enough to overcome it. His floor is rapidly rising to meet his ceiling and on top of which he seems like he doesn’t even fucking want to be here. What gives? 

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This is my least favorite team in 30 years. I stopped watching at half time yesterday because my 11 year old daughter wanted to watch a scary movie. “Absolutely any thing is better than watching this bullshit.”

The good thing is that they’ve been so consistently disappointing, it’s been relatively easy to disengage.

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A word of caution about disappointment, expectations, and instant gratification, especially at the QB position: If we look at the post-Colt McCoy era, we’ve seen disappointment resulting from expecting immediate greatness from new starting QBs on several occasions.  Garrett Gilbert was as blue-chip as they come, was abysmal taking the starting job after McCoy, and was booed out of town…….then he found success elsewhere and even lasted a few years in the league.  Shane Beuchele followed a similar script later.  There are other names I won’t go into depth on.  So how should we all digest such data now when, once again, the expected savior turns out, at best, to be a project that needs a lot of growth?  Show him the bench and the door after his first year as a starter?  Or perhaps history shows we should take our lumps now (this season), and “hope” to reap some benefits later?  “Trust the process” in the NIL transfer era at a place like Texas takes some discipline, I know, but maybe history says it might be the smarter long-term approach to the problem

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20 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

One thing is clear: both at Florida and last night Sark’s body language conveyed someone who didn’t want to be there. A neighbor who doesn’t watch football came over to return something that they borrowed. Looked at the tv saw the score and said “is that y’all’s Coach? He looks like Texas is getting beat really bad or something. You can still win this.” 
 

his body language isn’t the only thing but damn he barely reacted when we took the lead off the Shipley FG. Before we went to OT. He legit just shuffles down the field head down when the defense is on the field. 
 

@Thatguy is right about the RBs. His handpicked skill guys aren’t panning out in the same way these guys he didn’t pick that are showing to be playmakers are. Like he doesn’t want to move off his guys meanwhile Niblet pops up and he’s balling but like a happy accident. It’s clear he wanted to run everything thru Baxter and he has no pivot for that. You cannot half ass CEO as a HC and also call plays. It don’t work. And sark is not talented enough as an OC to overcome that. Whether we replace Arch or not. Sark is not talented enough to overcome it. His floor is rapidly rising to meet his ceiling and on top of which he seems like he doesn’t even fucking want to be here. What gives? 

 

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53 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

It's always a crap shoot when you're breaking in a new QB and OL. 5-2 and the way we're doing is hard to watch, but it's not completely unexpected.

Is it disappointing that we're not 7-0? Sure. Winning is fun. Is it the most disappointing season ever? Not even close. 1997 was the most disappointed I've ever been. 2010 is up there too. We're only halfway through this one, so I'll let it play out before I decide just how disappointing it is.

Game thread rage for me is mostly a bit. I'm too old to get really disappointed or angry about sports. But boy is it fun to hyperbolically complain on an internet message board in real time. 

 

1 hour ago, 7KHorn said:

Any season we beat OU, especially when they're higher ranked, automatically removes Texas from any "most disappointing season" consideration for me.

This is fair but we have two more rivalry games that suuuuuuuck to lose. Season within the season. 1-0 with 2 to go. 

Just now, Hagbard Celine said:

@VaLonghorn99

can you please justify your neg of dbeasy?

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8 minutes ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

A word of caution about disappointment, expectations, and instant gratification, especially at the QB position: If we look at the post-Colt McCoy era, we’ve seen disappointment resulting from expecting immediate greatness from new starting QBs on several occasions.  Garrett Gilbert was as blue-chip as they come, was abysmal taking the starting job after McCoy, and was booed out of town…….then he found success elsewhere and even lasted a few years in the league.  Shane Beuchele followed a similar script later.  There are other names I won’t go into depth on.  So how should we all digest such data now when, once again, the expected savior turns out, at best, to be a project that needs a lot of growth?  Show him the bench and the door after his first year as a starter?  Or perhaps history shows we should take our lumps now (this season), and “hope” to reap some benefits later?  “Trust the process” in the NIL transfer era at a place like Texas takes some discipline, I know, but maybe history says it might be the smarter long-term approach to the problem

Both of those other qbs looked like they had potential. Arch looks like complete ass in his third year. He has issues only he can fix and I don't know if he can. Also, how did virtually everyone get it wrong regarding this team and Arch? Is college football media that ignorant and worthless?

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1 hour ago, 7KHorn said:

Any season we beat OU, especially when they're higher ranked, automatically removes Texas from any "most disappointing season" consideration for me.

How about when we tie?  I think the 1984 season is the most disappointing in my life.

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12 minutes ago, Steelers Roll Left said:

A word of caution about disappointment, expectations, and instant gratification, especially at the QB position: If we look at the post-Colt McCoy era, we’ve seen disappointment resulting from expecting immediate greatness from new starting QBs on several occasions.  Garrett Gilbert was as blue-chip as they come, was abysmal taking the starting job after McCoy, and was booed out of town…….then he found success elsewhere and even lasted a few years in the league.  Shane Beuchele followed a similar script later.  There are other names I won’t go into depth on.  So how should we all digest such data now when, once again, the expected savior turns out, at best, to be a project that needs a lot of growth?  Show him the bench and the door after his first year as a starter?  Or perhaps history shows we should take our lumps now (this season), and “hope” to reap some benefits later?  “Trust the process” in the NIL transfer era at a place like Texas takes some discipline, I know, but maybe history says it might be the smarter long-term approach to the problem

I would feel much better if Arch was our biggest problem. The entire offense is an absolute disaster at basically every position. In the time of portal and NIL that is such an indictment on our head coach that it’s fireable imo. 

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41 minutes ago, Sgt Hulk said:

This team makes 2010 look like national champions 

This defense is probably better. That offense was probably better. 

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4 hours ago, Dbeasy said:

As we watched that trash last night, we tried to identify the most disappointing season in Texas history. If this team continues on like it’s going, this could be it:

1. Preseason #1 ranking blown

2. Epic QB recruit complete failure

3. Wasting one of the best Texas defenses in a very long time. 
4. Wasting it in a year with no dominant team.

5. Doing this all while a fat oaf an hour and a half away is undefeated with a team with far less talent. 

In many of the other disappointing years Texas at least accomplished something before blowing it. What other years were worse?

pos rep because i agree with the thread title

1- happens

2 - arch is getting better - the 0u game proved it - the O-line collapsed again last night - no one can overcome this

3 - yes - just as good as last year and we've only seen one game where the offense sustained drives to keep the defense off the field

4 - tosu is pretty dominant

5 - fuck aggy

6 - what other years were worse - none - this is the worst year of fail in program history

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3 hours ago, Fastbreak said:

Wisner had a great game against OU, but in the wrapper games (UF and UK), he has gone 20 for 48 with a long of 8. It’s wild.

The OL is flat out bad. They suck at run blocking. They suck at pass blocking.

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Still have no idea why we were ranked #1 to start the year with all we lost from the last 2 years. I guess the Arch hype and to hype up the week 1 matchup between Ohio St. Texas Clemson and Penn St had no business being as high as they were. We didn't fall off as much as Clemson and Penn St but we lost to a terrible Florida team and barely escaped an even worse Kentucky team we should have beat by 3 scores. 

This team is boring as fuck to watch.

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4 minutes ago, Hagbard Celine said:

pos rep because i agree with the thread title

1- happens

2 - arch is getting better - the 0u game proved it - the O-line collapsed again last night - no one can overcome this

3 - yes - just as good as last year and we've only seen one game where the offense sustained drives to keep the defense off the field

4 - tosu is pretty dominant

5 - fuck aggy

6 - what other years were worse - none - this is the worst year of fail in program history

I don’t know how you can say Arch is getting better after he played his worst game last night. 

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38 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

his body language isn’t the only thing but damn he barely reacted when we took the lead off the Shipley FG. Before we went to OT. He legit just shuffles down the field head down when the defense is on the field. 

I fucking hated Herman so much, but at least he showed some emotion on the field, whether he was looking like a scared bitch against WVU, yelling at Gundy like a drama queen, or making fun of Drew Lock looking like a herp derp coach making fun of a college student. Sark just stands there or squats like a statue. It’s weird. Not saying I want Sark to act like a jackass like Herman, but I’m saying the team feeds off the emotion of the coach and it doesn’t seem like they’re getting anything like that right now and are just lost in the wilderness without any guidance to take their cues from. 

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1 minute ago, Vic Mackey said:

This team is boring as fuck to watch.

There have been 3-4 games where I've looked at the game clock and said some variation of "Jesus, there's still 12 more minutes of this?". The offense is really just hard to watch. 

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1 hour ago, Dbeasy said:

 

The Big 12 Championship fail with Simms was a big one, especially because they learned before game time that someone lost (Tennessee?) and that with a win they would go to the national championship game. 

OU I believe.

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3 minutes ago, Red Five said:

There have been 3-4 games where I've looked at the game clock and said some variation of "Jesus, there's still 12 more minutes of this?". The offense is really just hard to watch. 

Yep, the last few years, Texas games were completely stop down, get locked in and enjoy the 3.5 hour ride. Yesterday, they were just background noise while I was organizing my laptop. I found myself not even getting worked up that they could lose to Kentucky, I am numb to this team and Sark right now. Even last week beating OU, it didn't feel like it did in the past. This team has stripped away all enjoyment. 

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