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3 hours ago, immamac said:

TBH I think this is why everyone is all toxic and fucked up. Its not anything you are doing wrong to be clear. 

When your Texas Football experience is just the game from your couch and getting on surly to bitch about it, what is there to look forward to? 

What happened to people making plans around the game with people they like from the Longhorn fandom even for Away games. What happened to wanting to tailgate and afterparty? 

Part of the entire college football experience to me isn't just going to the game waiting forever to leave your parking spot and feeling however the game went. Its about the entire day - the band, the pageantry, the friends, the heckling of the other team, the big plays, the roar of the crowd, things like singing the eyes. 

If you are skipping all the good parts all the time, of course there's nothing to look forward to, it's just like kicking yourself in the nuts over and over again. 

@YChang came and joined us at KoKos and we watched the same game y'all watched, but it was a roller coaster of emotion and a final victory that I'll remember. 

Another buddy of mine got a picture of me in full disappointment after they tied it with the caption 

"TFW Kentucky ties it"

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I'm not telling anyone how to do anything, but maybe the problem with why you hate everything all the time is the way you are setting things up to hate everything all the time. 

We aren't gonna get the greatest show on turf this year - that's not the identity of this team even when it's firing on all cylinders. This team if it gets its act together is going to score points and have wins like OU at best. That was still fantastic. 

There's a lot of schedule left and a lot of fun games left after MS State.

Vandy at home is projected by revelxp tent sales to be one of the biggest morning games ever in Austin (if the people show up). Arkansas is the renewal of a rivalry that hasn't happened here since 2008. TAMU hasn't played here since 2011 and was the hottest ticket outside of TX@tOSU the entire year. A night game with nothing else going on because it's holiday time. 

There are LOTS of people that are making this about a lot more than the team. 

You really look like you're about to cry. I can relate because I had that same look almost to a "T". If the words "please, somebody murder me" ran through your head at that exact moment, then yeah, I feel you. 

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1) I hadn’t considered missing punctuation. I was trying to figure out misspellings and/or missing words.
2) If this is a Bible quote, I only know the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, and Latin versions of the original writings.

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17 hours ago, MuellerHorn said:

Arch hasn’t played well in any road game yet. I don’t believe it starts this week. I bet Texas loses. 

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2 hours ago, Napoleon said:

1) I hadn’t considered missing punctuation. I was trying to figure out misspellings and/or missing words. 👍

2) If this is a Bible quote, I only know the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, and Latin versions of the original writings. 😎

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10 minutes ago, Skipper said:

This.  Is there a single program in the country where the fans are consistently happy with their coach?  Particularly in the new era with top talent disbursed all across the country? There were serious calls for Day's head after Michigan last year.  If he were to lose to Michigan again this year, that would start up again championship be damned.  Everyone at Bama was ready to fire DeBoer after the FSU loss and, talking to Bama fans a couple of weeks ago, they are still one loss away from turning on him again.  If UGA doesn't either win the SEC championship or make a playoff run this year, UGA fans will start grumbling.    This isn't excusing Texas this year as I think our staff completely shit the bed from an offensive personnel standpoint and we're wasting a championship level defense, but I think it's going to be hard for fans of big brand programs across the country to adjust to the reality that college football (and the SEC in particular) is basically the NFL now with point spreads typically within 10 points for the vast majority of conference games which means 'unexpected' upsets every week (just like in the NFL), but with even more variability given these are younger less experienced players with inconsistent performances week to week.

The NFL also has a Playoff where there is a 14 team playoff from 32 teams? 

The fight to stop expansion doesn't make any sense anymore the more it turns into what you are talking about. For Texas to not be one of the 12 best teams us unacceptable on all levels, same with those other teams. Being left outside looking in like Alabama did is not the end of the world when it's a crowded year, but not being a part of the conversation at all is fucking unacceptable. 

This team is 1 loss away from that level of unacceptable. Dropping a game leaves very little hope without significant mistakes from others, dropping 2 games Texas won't even finish in the top 25 and will start next season likely unranked and have to battle it's way all the way back as an "underdog" with easily a top 4 Roster $ value and a Top 5 coaching staff $ value. It's not congruent with any expectations and it shouldn't be a thing any of us or any fans in general should be ok with.

I don't think that it's people are unhappy with the coach, it's that they aren't losing games like Ole Miss did to Georgia just this weekend or like Georgia lost to Alabama etc. They are losing games to Florida where they look completely fucking incompetent. The Ohio State loss was so incredibly frustrating because it was so obvious how any offense at all and hitting the broad side of a barn with Arch would have resulted in a more respectable loss at least, and a win at best. 

Kentucky was another completely incompetent game on the offensive side of the ball. The line didn't improve and made some pretty horrific backslides which at this point of the season and with the level of talent and $ invested in the OL it's just not a fucking acceptable answer. The staff makes too much god damned money to trot out a shit product. 

 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Napoleon said:

Could someone translate that?

How would that sentence be said in American English?

 

2 hours ago, Js1 said:

But as for you, be patient; don't give up, for your hard work will be rewarded

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2 hours ago, Napoleon said:

1) I hadn’t considered missing punctuation. I was trying to figure out misspellings and/or missing words. 👍

2) If this is a Bible quote, I only know the Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek, and Latin versions of the original writings. 😎

It's probably meant to be 2 Chronicles 15:7 here is the New International version of that verse

 7But as for you, be strong and do not give up, for your work will be rewarded.

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3 hours ago, immamac said:

TBH I think this is why everyone is all toxic and fucked up. Its not anything you are doing wrong to be clear. 

When your Texas Football experience is just the game from your couch and getting on surly to bitch about it, what is there to look forward to? 

It is a good point that I think this applies to more than just football and more than just this board the past 5ish years. 

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1 hour ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

Ohio State doesn’t hire shitty, retread coaches like Texas does.

Exactly. Which why they are the anomaly of CFB. Their "worst" coach was John Cooper, and he last coached 25 years ago, but his record at fOSU was sub par. He coached for 13 seasons and had five 10+ win seasons before retiring in 2000.

I think the reason people forget about him is 

1) he started at fOSU in 1988 and somehow still has a .715 win %

2) he was followed by Tressel, who won a NC in his second season (went to three with 1-2 record), and had numerous 10+ win seasons, went to NINE BCS bowl games  with a 5-4 record, 6 B1G titles and an 8-1 record vs Michigan,with only two seasons that weren't great (2001- 7-5; 2004- 8-4). He has an .828 win % over his 10 seasons, resigned in 2011 where Luke Fickell was interim, and then Urban came in after that in 2012. 

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16 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

 probably meant to be 2 Chronicles 15:7 here is the New International version of that verse

 7But as for you, be strong and do not give up, for your work will be rewarded.

At the press conference when he took the head coaching job at Lousville, Howard Schnellenberger infamously prognosticated, “The University of Louisville is on a collision course with the National Championship.  The only  variable is time.” That is the operative variable as to when your work will be rewarded.

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1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

The coaching and recruiting continuity at those programs is what makes the difference.

We gave Mack continuity and he turned this program into a dumpster fire, so continuity is probably not the answer. Sark tried to use the continuity argument to retain his underperfming staff and they are already turning some parts of the program into a shitshow. I am not sure what it is that makes it so difficult to maintain success at Texas like tOSU, Bama or UGA.

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Just now, UTEE97 said:

We gave Mack continuity and he turned this program into a dumpster fire, so continuity is probably not the answer.

Mack ditched continuity when he ditched the only offensive system that was successful for him and tried to emulate Bama. 

 

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27 minutes ago, immamac said:

The NFL also has a Playoff where there is a 14 team playoff from 32 teams? 

The fight to stop expansion doesn't make any sense anymore the more it turns into what you are talking about. For Texas to not be one of the 12 best teams us unacceptable on all levels, same with those other teams. Being left outside looking in like Alabama did is not the end of the world when it's a crowded year, but not being a part of the conversation at all is fucking unacceptable. 

This team is 1 loss away from that level of unacceptable. Dropping a game leaves very little hope without significant mistakes from others, dropping 2 games Texas won't even finish in the top 25 and will start next season likely unranked and have to battle it's way all the way back as an "underdog" with easily a top 4 Roster $ value and a Top 5 coaching staff $ value. It's not congruent with any expectations and it shouldn't be a thing any of us or any fans in general should be ok with.

I don't think that it's people are unhappy with the coach, it's that they aren't losing games like Ole Miss did to Georgia just this weekend or like Georgia lost to Alabama etc. They are losing games to Florida where they look completely fucking incompetent. The Ohio State loss was so incredibly frustrating because it was so obvious how any offense at all and hitting the broad side of a barn with Arch would have resulted in a more respectable loss at least, and a win at best. 

Kentucky was another completely incompetent game on the offensive side of the ball. The line didn't improve and made some pretty horrific backslides which at this point of the season and with the level of talent and $ invested in the OL it's just not a fucking acceptable answer. The staff makes too much god damned money to trot out a shit product. 

 

I wasn't necessarily talking about Texas this year.  To the larger point, it's pretty clear Sankey saw the NFL parity coming and that's why he's open to playoff expansion + more guaranteed SEC spots.  Particularly with a 9 game conference schedule.

As for Texas, certainly not excusing this season as it's clear we are wasting a championship caliber defense.  If we could pair it with even a top 30 offense we would be an elite team.  But offense is a complete failure across the board and I don't think fixable.  We don't have a true #1 WR or #1 RB which might not be a disaster if they weren't paired with an absolutely horrible OL and a QB that misses layups every single game.  I think there should be changes to the staff that misjudged personnel this bad + massive re-trades on any budget consuming NIL deals or let guys walk (i.e., Wingo/Moore if they are getting paid like #1's) + competition at every position.  Offense is bad enough that blowing it all up with 4+ new starters that aren't currently on the roster is probably the best option.

 I'm not out on Sark at all as he's built the program that actually has high expectations again but I think we got extremely complacent on offense and Sark needs new voices in the room (and I'm definitely supportive of the idea to take coordinating/play calling off of his plate so he's not spread so thin).  I heard through the grapevine BEFORE the FL game that Sark's demeanor this season is completely different (i.e., he's pissed off all the time) and now I think pretty easy to see why.  I'm guessing he saw this trainwreck coming in training camp.

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16 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Mack ditched continuity when he ditched the only offensive system that was successful for him and tried to emulate Bama. 

 

I thought the poster meant continuity at the top i.e., a long tenure for the HC. All the great coaches have revolving doors at the assistant coaches level but that doesn't affect their programs. Mack just got complacent just like Sark after his big contract. We can't seem to find the coaches who can stay hungry despite their huge contracts.

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Just now, UTEE97 said:

I thought the poster meant continuity at the top i.e., a long tenure for the HC. All the great coaches have revolving doors at the assistant coaches level but that doesn't affect their programs. Mack just got complacent just like Sark after his big contract. We can't seem to find the coaches who can stay hungry despite their huge contracts.

When I think continuity, I also think continuity of your system, your culture, your expectations, etc.

Mack really let all that rot after 2009.  The big thing was changing the offensive system without the right assistants or players to run it. 

One thing Saban and Day have done is maintain the continuity of their culture.  Even if you change assistants, the culture and expectations never changed. Saban was willing to adapt to changes in college football by bringing in coaches who could run it with the players recruited to Bama.  

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30 minutes ago, UTEE97 said:

We gave Mack continuity and he turned this program into a dumpster fire, so continuity is probably not the answer. Sark tried to use the continuity argument to retain his underperfming staff and they are already turning some parts of the program into a shitshow. I am not sure what it is that makes it so difficult to maintain success at Texas like tOSU, Bama or UGA.

Continuity is a good thing, so long as it is accompanied by competency, not complacency. Mack always struck me as wanting to get along with everyone. That's fine if they're doing their job. I think he realized it at the end, but too late to save his job. Sarkisian needs to beware that pitfall with players and staff alike. Likewise, Sarkisian believes in forgiveness given his own fall from, and return to grace. A successful coach has to be vigilant of deficiencies and know when to cut bait.

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4 hours ago, immamac said:

TBH I think this is why everyone is all toxic and fucked up. Its not anything you are doing wrong to be clear. 

When your Texas Football experience is just the game from your couch and getting on surly to bitch about it, what is there to look forward to? 

What happened to people making plans around the game with people they like from the Longhorn fandom even for Away games. What happened to wanting to tailgate and afterparty? 

Part of the entire college football experience to me isn't just going to the game waiting forever to leave your parking spot and feeling however the game went. Its about the entire day - the band, the pageantry, the friends, the heckling of the other team, the big plays, the roar of the crowd, things like singing the eyes. 

If you are skipping all the good parts all the time, of course there's nothing to look forward to, it's just like kicking yourself in the nuts over and over again. 

@YChang came and joined us at KoKos and we watched the same game y'all watched, but it was a roller coaster of emotion and a final victory that I'll remember. 

Another buddy of mine got a picture of me in full disappointment after they tied it with the caption 

"TFW Kentucky ties it"

signal-2025-10-18-20-45-15-886.jpg

I'm not telling anyone how to do anything, but maybe the problem with why you hate everything all the time is the way you are setting things up to hate everything all the time. 

We aren't gonna get the greatest show on turf this year - that's not the identity of this team even when it's firing on all cylinders. This team if it gets its act together is going to score points and have wins like OU at best. That was still fantastic. 

There's a lot of schedule left and a lot of fun games left after MS State.

Vandy at home is projected by revelxp tent sales to be one of the biggest morning games ever in Austin (if the people show up). Arkansas is the renewal of a rivalry that hasn't happened here since 2008. TAMU hasn't played here since 2011 and was the hottest ticket outside of TX@tOSU the entire year. A night game with nothing else going on because it's holiday time. 

There are LOTS of people that are making this about a lot more than the team. 

I agree with a lot of what is said here, but while I grew up in Texas, I now live in Florida. My wife and kids and I watch the game on the weekend, but we don’t have the ability to attend home games or even fly to away games with any frequency. We attended the game in Gainesville and I still haven’t gotten over that ass-kicking.

My Texas Football experience is mostly about watching the game with my son because there is no Longhorn contingent that meets regularly in this area to watch the game.

I’m envious of those of you who can live your weekend around the games whether home or away, but it’s not a reality for me.

So the product matters. And I can handle being a two loss team that gets into the playoff or even the occasional season when we don’t, but the product fucking matters. And the product we are putting out is simply inexcusable.

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Ghost of Shag said:

My Texas Football experience is... simply inexcusable.

Read that in Robert Palmer's voice.

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Back on topic….

The bulldogs may look like a running team based on the box score stats, but when you hive off the cupcake games and really focus on AzSt, Tenn, Aggy and our common opponent in Florida, it tells a different story. Of those four games, they averaged 230 ypg passing and 122 ypg rushing. And those stats are against three average defenses and one bad, bad defense. 

On defense, the dogs allowed some eye popping rushing yards to Aggy and AzSt. And gave up 213 rushing ypg on average in those four games.

Removing our cupcakes, and looking at only OhSt, OU, KY and of course Florida, our defense gave up an average of 223 and 105 ypg, respectively. We have had a much higher defensive beta to the standard deviation of course.

What’s most telling of this cherry-picking approach is the TO battle. Where the bulldogs have given up the ball twice as many times as we have (6-3), but have also forced two more than our defense has (8-6) in the same games. 
 

TLDR:

The teams are actually well matched on defense, despite how elite we want to believe our defense is (and exactly the same results against Florida). And they aren’t really a running team. This will very likely come down to the TOs in the box score. And if any one (or more) of our RBs can find space (despite our OL), we can win this game running (pun intended). 

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Meant to put in from timestamp. Edited late. This is a good 5 minutes of your time to watch a guy who knows wtf he's talking about go on a full fucking rage rant.

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5 minutes ago, Bert Orange said:

Back on topic….

The bulldogs may look like a running team based on the box score stats, but when you hive off the cupcake games and really focus on AzSt, Tenn, Aggy and our common opponent in Florida, it tells a different story. Of those four games, they averaged 230 ypg passing and 122 ypg rushing. And those stats are against three average defenses and one bad, bad defense. 

On defense, the dogs allowed some eye popping rushing yards to Aggy and AzSt. And gave up 213 rushing ypg.

Removing our cupcakes, and looking at only OhSt, OU, KY and of course Florida, our defense gave up an average of 223 and 105 ypg, respectively. We have had a much higher defensive beta to the standard deviation of course.

What’s most telling of this cherry-picking approach is the TO battle. Where the bulldogs have given up the ball twice as many times as we have (6-3), but have also forced two more than our defense has (8-6) in the same games. 
 

TLDR:

The teams are actually well matched on defense, despite how elite we want to believe our defense is (and exactly the same results against Florida). And they aren’t really a running team. This will very likely come down to the TOs in the box score. And if any one (or more) of our RBs can find space (despite our OL), we can win this game running (pun intended). 

I'll be interested to see if MSU employs the same strategy as they did last year (playing to shorten the game, consistently snapping the ball with under 5 secs left and conservative play calling mixing runs and short passes just trying to keep the chains moving).  They had the true FR QB and overall were pretty terrible on both sides of the ball last year so it made sense, and if you all recall, it was an extremely frustrating first 2/3 of the game before we finally broke it open.  I have barely watched MSU this year but I feel all things equal Lebby would prefer to play (or at least mix in) Tempo if he thinks he has the personnel like at Ole Miss and OU.  With this being 4th straight 'road' game with defense playing 80+ snaps last week, I think if I were them I would mirror game plan from last year and keep our D on the field.

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

The staff makes too much god damned money to trot out a shit product. 

 

 

This. I understand cycles, trotting out a young line (or position group, etc) where you can see that, but at the same time see the potential.

That’s not this. 

Posted
3 minutes ago, immamac said:

the most fucked up part of that segment is that EVERYONE including Sark knows it's the truth.

Really good segment from Tony. The Kentucky game plan is so mind numbingly confounding that it doesnt add up as just Sark being mistaken about what to do. I think the guy is white knuckling through games and I dont understand why. He could make it much easier on himself with some simple changes. 

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I think Sark has shown a pattern of doing things he WANTS to work or thinks SHOULD work, especially against teams that he thinks are physically outmatched by Texas, instead of working with what he knows will work. He got away with it down the stretch last year even though it led to some pretty damn uncomfortable 2nd halves.

He treated games against inferior opponents last year and this year like scrimmages where he was trying to prove that he could make the offense do what he wanted it to, and as long as we didn’t lose, he felt justified in that approach.

He needs to get over that square peg round hole bullshit.

I’m also tired as fuck of hearing after poor offensive efforts that the other defense knew exactly what the play was gonna be every snap.

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1 hour ago, Skipper said:

I'll be interested to see if MSU employs the same strategy as they did last year (playing to shorten the game, consistently snapping the ball with under 5 secs left and conservative play calling mixing runs and short passes just trying to keep the chains moving).  They had the true FR QB and overall were pretty terrible on both sides of the ball last year so it made sense, and if you all recall, it was an extremely frustrating first 2/3 of the game before we finally broke it open.  I have barely watched MSU this year but I feel all things equal Lebby would prefer to play (or at least mix in) Tempo if he thinks he has the personnel like at Ole Miss and OU.  With this being 4th straight 'road' game with defense playing 80+ snaps last week, I think if I were them I would mirror game plan from last year and keep our D on the field.

In two words or less?

Ball Control.

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Just now, Nueces River Rat said:

In two words or less?

Ball Control.

Saint Darrell was asked whether he thought ball control or rushing yardage was the more important, since both were  a bit over 90% accurate in predicting wins. DKR said "Neither. Our research shows scoreboard control is a hundred percent accurate... whoever had more points, wins every time."
 

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3 hours ago, El Hornarino said:

I'm so ready to win with defense and special teams I joined the Cult of Horus.  You may remember Horus was the Egyptian god of kingship, healing, protection, and winning ugly games with low scoring offense.  The last bit isn't recognized as such by Egyptologists, but take a look at this:

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Also, Horus's origin story is quite interesting:

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I think we need to give some of the other receivers more run. Been upsetting to not see more of Lockett or fffffrench. Not saying they are the answers but I’m tired of hearing that out wideouts can’t separate. Yes arch missed 3+ open throws last game but before that there wasn’t tons of space to throw. 

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7 minutes ago, RockyMountainHighHorn said:

I think we need to give some of the other receivers more run. Been upsetting to not see more of Lockett or fffffrench. Not saying they are the answers but I’m tired of hearing that out wideouts can’t separate. Yes arch missed 3+ open throws last game but before that there wasn’t tons of space to throw. 

If you did a tequila shot every time Arch missed an open receiver by 2 or more yards, you would be dead. Randy Moss in his prime isn't catching these passes. 

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Not looking forward to this game because we've played like shit every road game. Will be watching with the sound off so don't hear the fucking cowbells. We'll escape with a win and secure our spot in the Armed Forces Bowl or Pop Tarts Bowl. 

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8 hours ago, Ghost of Shag said:

Bothers me that I don’t even give a shit about the game this week. If we win, we win. If we lose, we lose.

Doesn't matter because the product on the field is so terrible. Just like back in the Strong era.

I wonder what it is about programs like Ohio State that they are in the mix year in and year out. Texas should be that, but our relevance since 2010 has been such that we will have a good year or a good couple of years and then right back to mediocrity or downright ineptitude.

Might very well be coaching, and I hate that. I really thought might have one in Sark, but this is indefensible.

Flood/Sark + our talent evaluators are fraud on the OL

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2 hours ago, immamac said:

 

Meant to put in from timestamp. Edited late. This is a good 5 minutes of your time to watch a guy who knows wtf he's talking about go on a full fucking rage rant.

Can someone explain how the blocking against OU was different from UK for those of us who only saw a total shit show with no nuance?

Is Tony asking for us to stick with the outside zone running attack?

 

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The $9.95 ers have really turned this week. All of them preaching some version of what Tony Hills said in less forceful terms - Sark needs to coach to the offense he has, not the offense that he wants to be. 

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This is probably a good bounces back game for our offense. I could see this team scoring 20 or even 23 points this game. I don’t want to get too crazy tho 

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1 hour ago, BlackCat said:

Really good segment from Tony. The Kentucky game plan is so mind numbingly confounding that it doesnt add up as just Sark being mistaken about what to do. I think the guy is white knuckling through games and I dont understand why. He could make it much easier on himself with some simple changes. 

That's who he is, OC failure and booger eater.  At least at Bama, Saban would bitch slap to reset him.  In here, he gets to eat all the boogers he wants.

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4 hours ago, Js1 said:

Mack ditched continuity when he ditched the only offensive system that was successful for him and tried to emulate Bama. 

 

Like Steve Sarkisian, Mack started to sniff his own farts. 

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4 hours ago, UTEE97 said:

I am not sure what it is that makes it so difficult to maintain success at Texas like tOSU, Bama or UGA.

The other teams.

Think of how many elite players, national award winners, NFL rookies of the year, etc..  went to school somewhere other than that list.  The exact answer is a shitload of them.  There are talent gaps between schools for sure, but they're not as wide as you think.   

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11 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

The other teams.

Think of how many elite players, national award winners, NFL rookies of the year, etc..  went to school somewhere other than that list.  The exact answer is a shitload of them.  There are talent gaps between schools for sure, but they're not as wide as you think.   

And yet those programs have been able to do it.

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10 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

The other teams.

Think of how many elite players, national award winners, NFL rookies of the year, etc..  went to school somewhere other than that list.  The exact answer is a shitload of them.  There are talent gaps between schools for sure, but they're not as wide as you think.   

This is true, but one thing that differentiates the current elite programs is the volume of talent at most positions and its evaluation and development.

For now, outside of the OL, I think we have pretty good talent, but it's young/untested and the environment that stems from the ineffective OL makes it difficult for them to execute and develop.  Could we have perhaps better talent at RB and WR, yes.  But who knows what the current crop looks like if the OL was even just average.

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The $9.95 ers have really turned this week. All of them preaching some version of what Tony Hills said in less forceful terms - Sark needs to coach to the offense he has, not the offense that he wants to be. 

I think after OU it was assumed Sark finally got that. Nope.
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1 hour ago, Drifterwood said:

he WANTS to work or thinks SHOULD work

I grew up playing ball with a guy like this.  In today's world he would probably be considered on a spectrum of something.

He was incredibly smart and a good athlete but he couldn't separate what he thought should happen in a game vs. what was happening. 

If a defense didn't react the way a play was designed, he'd spin off mentally b/c "they didn't do what they were supposed to do".  He'd get so fixated on how the play was designed to work he couldn't operate in the reality of what was happening.

Not sure if that applies here but I can't help thinking about him spinning off in an intellectual tizzy instead of adjusting when I see this offense continue to run into a brick wall without deviation. 

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I think some of the 9.95 and fan talk about Sark calling the wrong gameplan or calling for the team he wants rather than the team he has missed the possibility that maybe the offense is actually just this bad.

Against power 4 opponents, our offense ranks 63 out of 68 teams. We are objectively terrible at Left Guard and Center. We are getting below average play at Right Tackle. There's no need to comment on QB play.

Maybe there isn't a magic button to run the ball as well as we did against Oklahoma every week because our line is horrible. Maybe it's even worse with Robertson in. Maybe our QB is going to miss wide open guys if he's blitzed or comfortable in the pocket. 

It's still Sark's fault. But I don't think he can simply call run plays and quick passes and make this offense good. The sample size is no longer small. It's a terrible offense. The changes needed wont come from week to week adjustments. They will come with a total overhaul in the off-season.

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22 minutes ago, Your Mom said:

The other teams.

Think of how many elite players, national award winners, NFL rookies of the year, etc..  went to school somewhere other than that list.  The exact answer is a shitload of them.  There are talent gaps between schools for sure, but they're not as wide as you think.   

Yep.  And I don't expect the Big 10 to continue to be this top heavy (with numerous "scheduled wins" even if you play your F game) but it definitely is this year.   According to KFord (who I think does a pretty good job with all his rankings), he has OSU 49th in schedule difficulty this season.   They just aren't being challenged and were essentially scheduled a playoff spot.  Texas is 11th, Bama is 15th and UGA is 16th.     But Bama missed the playoffs last year.  Both Bama and UGA look likely to make it this year but UGA could easily be a 3 (if not a 4) loss team right now.  I'll be surprised if any of OSU, Bama or UGA can make a stretch of 4 or 5 years straight in the playoffs going forward.  None will have the talent advantage they used to have.

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7 hours ago, Js1 said:

Seriously.  Ohio State doesn't miss on anything related to football, somehow.  

Even the "hot" programs right now went through meh periods - pre-Kirby, Georgia only finished in the top 5 three times under Richt.  ND went through the Willingham/Weis era, and Kelly still had a handful of 8-5 seasons mixed in during his tenure.  Michigan pre- and post- Harbaugh.  Penn State not being able to win the big games under Franklin. 

Bama went 17 years between titles after Stallings won in 1992 - DuBose, Fran and Shula eras.  USC went through all kinds of hell and are still not back to prominence. 

OU is going through it right now with Venables. 

Ohio state is going on like 80 years worth of solid to good to great hires. 
 

we should study that shit and figure out how they do it. 

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