Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

I’m actually convinced that DJT is so surrounded by fraud he has had a complete break from reality and doesn’t realize he’s being tricked and used as a tool. It’s pathetic. 

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Like 1
Posted
1 minute ago, immamac said:

I’m actually convinced that DJT is so surrounded by fraud he has had a complete break from reality and doesn’t realize he’s being tricked and used as a tool. It’s pathetic. 


100% true 

IMG_0743.jpeg.39d5861fefe81b724ef9f5f4823e739c.jpeg

 

this is all leading to one thing ….

how can Trump lose Michigan and Detroit ?? He had 24000 blacks at his black church event !!!!  File the lawsuits !!!

how can Trump lose New Jersey ?? He had 100,000 at his rally !!! File the lawsuits !!!

…….

  • Hook 'Em 2
  • Like 2
Posted
28 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:


100% true 

IMG_0743.jpeg.39d5861fefe81b724ef9f5f4823e739c.jpeg

 

this is all leading to one thing ….

how can Trump lose Michigan and Detroit ?? He had 24000 blacks at his black church event !!!!  File the lawsuits !!!

how can Trump lose New Jersey ?? He had 100,000 at his rally !!! File the lawsuits !!!

…….

The best possible thing that can happen is for Joe Biden to win the 2024 election then to publicly execute trump with his own hands and then immediately pardon himself, followed by his resignation or death by suicide depending on how much you don’t like the guy. 

this would heal America. Lol

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Haha 2
  • Drool 1
Posted
7 minutes ago, immamac said:

The best possible thing that can happen is for Joe Biden to win the 2024 election then to publicly execute trump with his own hands and then immediately pardon himself, followed by his resignation or death by suicide depending on how much you don’t like the guy. 

this would heal America. Lol

please leave your erotic fanfic out of this thread.

  • Hook 'Em 4
  • Haha 3
Posted (edited)

Trump is probably thinking he should give a speech the day before the election that if he's elected he'll send anyone who voted for him $1,000.  Which he won't really do.

If he gets elected he's pardoning himself for everything he can.

If he doesn't get elected Jack Smith is frying him anyway.

All upside, no downside.  Did I really type that?

Edited by Bullneck
Posted
1 hour ago, immamac said:

I’m actually convinced that DJT is so surrounded by fraud he has had a complete break from reality and doesn’t realize he’s being tricked and used as a tool. It’s pathetic. 

Or he’s a grifter with decades of “fake it till you make it” behind him, culminating in a run as a successful reality tv show star, and he knows his fans will buy anything he says, and that the people who would be bothered by his lies would never have voted for him anyways. It makes perfect sense for him to constantly lie, because telling the truth won’t do him any good.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, immamac said:

I don't think people realize how incredibly bad you have to be as president to not get re-elected. 

Really not true. You can be pretty good and not get reelected. The specific pattern is presidents who expend political capital to do things that yield long term benefit at the cost of short term political benefit.

Since the Civil War the only one term presidents who have been bad at the job (i.e, we were worse of because of their presidency) were Hoover and Donald Trump.

Edited by Bozo_Casanova
  • Hook 'Em 1
Posted
25 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Really not true. You can be pretty good and not get reelected. The specific pattern is presidents who expend political capital to do things that yield long term benefit at the cost of short term political benefit.

Since the Civil War the only one term presidents who have been bad at the job (i.e, we were worse of because of their presidency) were Hoover and Donald Trump.

Gerald Ford, the only president to never be elected. 

Jimmy Carter who is widely regarded as a complete nincompoop and potato, but really nice guy

George HW Bush, do I need to elaborate?

Trump. 

That's it for the alive people voting single term presidents. The fuck kind of shit are you talking? 

Posted
32 minutes ago, immamac said:

Jimmy Carter who is widely regarded as a complete nincompoop and potato, but really nice guy

George HW Bush, do I need to elaborate?

Trump. 

That's it for the alive people voting single term presidents. The fuck kind of shit are you talking? 

Uh, history shit, for starters. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/02/19/opinion/how-does-trump-stack-up-against-the-best-and-worst-presidents.htmlBut great illustration of what I’m talking about. 
 

1) Jimmy Carter, who is qualified to run a nuclear power plant and once shut down a reactor core in meltdown was an actually a pretty OK president who did a lot of good and important things:

- Camp David accords, ending the series of wars between Israel and Egypt and effectively closing the question of Israel in the region.

- Pivoted US foreign policy establishment towards stopping the expansion of the Soviet Union’s sphere of influence, laying the ground for collapse, while simultaneously negotiating 

- SALT II

- Established diplomatic relations with China

- Created the departments of Energy and Education 

- Laid the groundwork for lower natural gas prices and lower dependence on fuel imports.

etc

2) Ford- inherited a very tough situation and bad choices on every front, but couple of things:

- got the Helsinki Accords done

- Tax Reduction Act of 74, which probably made inflation worse (as they knew it would), but reversed spiking unemployment after he left office.

3) Bush I is regarded as well above average now and will eventually likely be regarded as one of the best presidents of the 20th century for a variety of reasons, but to my mind  three things stand out:

- masterful handling of the international coalition against Saddam Hussein, concluding with the correct but inconvenient choice not to depose the dictator and leave the regime intact.

- masterful handling of the economy, especially the tax hike to reduce the deficit, which laid the groundwork for our last best chance (destroyed by his son) to control spending on debt maintenance. 
 

- ADA, Clean Air Act amendments and a bunch of other legislation that made tangible improvements to the lives of human beings. 
 

You should a book, QED

 

  • Hook 'Em 5
  • Like 1
Posted

I'm aware of all these things. I've read a lot of books. You are just wrong and you tried to flex on a pretty innocuous and frankly sane statement to seem like a super smarty-pants. Sorry it didn't work out for you. 

Posted
2 minutes ago, immamac said:

I'm aware of all these things. I've read a lot of books. You are just wrong and you tried to flex on a pretty innocuous and frankly sane statement to seem like a super smarty-pants. Sorry it didn't work out for you. 

The Rock Reaction GIF by WWE

Posted

Here’s the list of Blacks for Trump folks

”I haven’t heard of most of these names.  And this guy Cain here is dead.”

well, cross him off then

Posted
2 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 


im curious how much he paid for her silence ?

Higher than the Daniels Line, so more than $130,000.  Raping a child has to cost more than silencing a porn star.  i hope, anyway.

But it was probably the death threats that did it.

Posted
2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

I always thought this case was made up. Was this actually real?

Does this person actually exist?


she worked at mar a lago

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation
 

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/2016/nov/04/donald-trump-teenage-rape-accusations-lawsuit-dropped
 

go read her testimony 

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Rage+1 1
Posted
8 hours ago, immamac said:

I don't think people realize how incredibly bad you had to be as president to not get re-elected. 

fify.  You may not have noticed, but normal left the building a while ago and now everything we know is wrong….or at least suspect. 

Posted
3 hours ago, Gatorubet said:

fify.  You may not have noticed, but normal left the building a while ago and now everything we know is wrong….or at least suspect. 

The word you're looking for is cult.

Posted (edited)
9 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

I always thought this case was made up. Was this actually real?

Does this person actually exist?

Not made up, no.  But, this does illustrate that in a civil suit, you can allege all kinds of wild stuff and it is understood that that is subject to proof and also subject to discovery, where one can attempt to secure evidence/proof of one's wild allegations.

Broadly speaking, when you file the lawsuit, you don't have to have proof of your wild allegations. Depending on the posture of the suit, you may not have to demonstrate the proof of your wild allegations until trial, or a bit before after you have had the opportunity to conduct discovery (summary judgment).  See, e.g. E. Jean Carroll, but see also Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani.

The allegations in a civil lawsuit are not even "testimony."  Presumably, they are what the plaintiff would testify to under oath in a deposition and at trial, but that is part of the discovery process.

We really have no idea whether Jane Doe's allegations are truthful or can be proven.  The suit was dismissed voluntarily before the veracity of the allegations could be tested.

On the other hand, the wild allegations in Powell's and Giuliani's suits were tested early because they sought immediate relief and tossed for lack of evidence.

Edited by TwiceHorn
Posted
12 hours ago, immamac said:

I'm aware of all these things. I've read a lot of books. You are just wrong and you tried to flex on a pretty innocuous and frankly sane statement to seem like a super smarty-pants. Sorry it didn't work out for you. 

What Bozo posted is factually accurate, and I think he's correct that history will judge Carter and GHWB, especially the latter, much more kindly than the uninformed popular opinion.

But, this America, man.  The uninformed popular opinion is what gets people elected, or unelected as the case may be.

  • Hook 'Em 4
Posted
10 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Not made up, no.  But, this does illustrate that in a civil suit, you can allege all kinds of wild stuff and it is understood that that is subject to proof and also subject to discovery, where one can attempt to secure evidence/proof of one's wild allegations.

Broadly speaking, when you file the lawsuit, you don't have to have proof of your wild allegations. Depending on the posture of the suit, you may not have to demonstrate the proof of your wild allegations until trial, or a bit before after you have had the opportunity to conduct discovery (summary judgment).  See, e.g. E. Jean Carroll, but see also Sidney Powell and Rudy Giuliani.

The allegations in a civil lawsuit are not even "testimony."  Presumably, they are what the plaintiff would testify to under oath in a deposition and at trial, but that is part of the discovery process.

We really have no idea whether Jane Doe's allegations are truthful or can be proven.  The suit was dismissed voluntarily before the veracity of the allegations could be tested.

On the other hand, the wild allegations in Powell's and Giuliani's suits were tested early because they sought immediate relief and tossed for lack of evidence.

The person is real and the civil lawsuit was filed. That’s all that can be said as fact. Right?

I am surprised no one has tried to expose this story further. 

Posted
35 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

The person is real and the civil lawsuit was filed. That’s all that can be said as fact. Right?

I am surprised no one has tried to expose this story further. 

Pretty much, yeah.  One of Jane Doe's attorneys was Lisa Bloom, Gloria Allred's daughter.  As far as I know, Ms. Bloom is "for real" and seemingly would not be involved in a lawsuit that couldn't be proven, even if it was a long shot.  She is, however, a pretty big attention horse, so you kind of never know.  And, there's quite a few reasons a lawsuit is voluntarily dismissed, but one of them is that the allegations are false or highly unlikely to be proven.

Posted
1 hour ago, TwiceHorn said:

Pretty much, yeah.  One of Jane Doe's attorneys was Lisa Bloom, Gloria Allred's daughter.  As far as I know, Ms. Bloom is "for real" and seemingly would not be involved in a lawsuit that couldn't be proven, even if it was a long shot.  She is, however, a pretty big attention horse, so you kind of never know.  And, there's quite a few reasons a lawsuit is voluntarily dismissed, but one of them is that the allegations are false or highly unlikely to be proven.

Or maybe (and surely this could never happen?) someone got paid off to keep it quiet?

Posted
2 hours ago, AnTiM said:

Or maybe (and surely this could never happen?) someone got paid off to keep it quiet?

I've heard of people who were convicted of such things when it involved campaign funds during an election.  

  • Rage+1 1
Posted

The way he synchs it up with Robert Shaw's body language, and then each time even something more ludicrous comes out of his mouth, it pans perfectly to Dreyfus' face like "What the fuck is he talking about?"  

Somebody needs to nominate this for an Academy Award for Best Short Film.  

  • Hook 'Em 1
  • Haha 2
Posted (edited)

And the butter biscuits don’t care as long as they’re getting paid:

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/11/02/michael-cohen-trump-said-black-people-are-too-stupid-to-vote-for-me.html

  • President Donald Trump once said, “Black people are too stupid to vote for me,” and suggested that all countries run by blacks are “s---holes,” Trump’s former lawyer Michael Cohen says in a new interview.
  • Also in the Vanity Fair sitdown, Cohen recalled Trump saying, “There’s no way I can let this black f-g win,” when referring to a black contestant on the reality show “The Apprentice.”
  • “Only the blacks could live like this,” Trump once allegedly told Cohen when they were driving through a rough neighborhood in Chicago.
Edited by Satchel
Posted
2 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

And then he motorcades from Chicago to Milwaukee?   That's gonna fuck up traffic something fierce.   Bwahahahahaha.

  • Rage+1 1
Posted

Well you see, at least it's a reverse commute.  I doubt he wants to attend anything other than his acceptance speech, but he does have some glad-handing to do with other RNC leadership and donors to keep the grift train running.  But yeah, his plane is too big to take off from anywhere but O'Hare and Midway.  So it's straight up I-94 to Milwaukee.  That's nearly 100 miles, that's a long ass way for a motorcade to block off dozens and dozens of on-ramps, block lanes, periodically halt oncoming traffic in sections where the highway isn't that sufficiently divided (it's a very wide highway with large divides for most of the trip but it gets narrower and not as spaced from about Gurnee to the Kenosha/Racine area).  4 business days, of which, he'll probably travel up there 3 days.  Probably midday, but still a shitshow.  He won't be coming back until late at night, 11pm or so, which won't present much of an issue heading back into downtown Chicago.  But those 3-4 days of him heading up there are cause all kinds of logistical challenges and piss off a lot of potential voters in SE Wisconsin.  

I mean, if he had Marine 1 or something else, that'd be one thing.  But they can't fly a fixed wing plane up there.  It's gotta be done with a motorcade which has to stop at the Illinois border and switch over to Wisconsin state troopers alongside his own detail.  And then resume the trip.  There's gotta be several dozen overpasses of major roads that will also have to be closed and cleared for that 100 mile stretch.  And unlike our on/off ramps, many of which are elevated in Texas, in IL/WI---they are cloverleaf style for the most part due to freezing temps.  So they are more linear feet (I don't know the calculus of it).  So there's gonna be several dozen of those that need to be sealed off but because of their length (~3x the amount of footprint than an elevated ramp), that's more personnel needed to keep not only the ramp blocked but also the circle of land inside of it to the shoulder which will need to be patrolled for anybody hiding in those tall summer grasses.  Once he gets past National Avenue/59, kinda where 'downtown Milwaukee' starts, it's business as usual for Secret Service...just another city visit for a President/former President, something they've done in their sleep hundreds of times.  

But given the layout of I-94, duration of the drive, and volume of cars on a weekday on both sides of the highway...it'll take several hundred troopers from both Illinois and Wisconsin to secure that route at several hours apiece.  Never mind what it costs the drivers who are not at work but stuck in traffic and the retail along the way that nobody can access (halfway thru the trip is a Six Flags amusement park and one of the 5 largest malls in the U.S., plus all the other gas stations and restaurants that will be shut off from traffic for what could be hours).  Total expenditures and lost revenue of all of the above could total hundreds of thousands per day, millions over the course of the week.  So his hotel can make a few bucks on 9 rooms on the Chicago River.  

Business genius 



×
×
  • Create New...