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12 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

We're all just hoping that either Gene Chizik or Ed Orgeron is the next head coach at Texas.

There is another sitting National Championship coach out there, and he wears Carolina blue.

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11 hours ago, Pimphand said:

This team could (not should) have gone 12-0 that they did not falls on QB health and QB vs RB usage and are directly problems the head coach should solve for.

I was pretty much done with Sark when he kept running terrified Card out there to keep getting his ass kicked against Arkansas until the game was completely out of reach.

Maybe one day we will have so much talent everywhere that Sark cannot fuck it up but we are not there which is why we are headed to the Alamo Bowl and not playing for jack shit in a year that OU goes 6-6, A&M goes 5-7, and TCU is poised to steal our lunch money.

I like how you gave Sark until the second game of year 1. That's peak Surly.

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38 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I wanted to take a break from this thread as it’s gone off rails but I want to be sure I have this right.  We’re pissing on a guy who is about to take tcu to the playoffs in part because Sark has won two in a row vs 6-6 teams?

He should probably prove he can win consistently with his guys and not a bunch of upperclassmen he inherited from Gary P before he’s anointed the guy we missed/should have hired that we will regret for years to come 

TCU is seasoned and veteran and was lucky as fuck that kept knocking out starting QBs

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1 hour ago, immamac said:

Max Duggan is a Heisman finalist? If that is true no one should even try to win that stupid trophy anymore. 

He probably should be.  At the end of the day all he did was play winning football in the 4th quarter all season long.   If we had similar consistency we are probably 11-1 with sole loss being the officiating screwjob against Alabama.

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1 hour ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

He also decided his best bet at QB was a first time starter when he had a six yr starting senior, now likely heisman finalist as a backup QB going into the season.

He fell into utilizing one of the best QBs in college football this year because of injury to his chosen starter.

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23 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He should probably prove he can win consistently with his guys and not a bunch of upperclassmen he inherited from Gary P before he’s anointed the guy we missed/should have hired that we will regret for years to come 

TCU is seasoned and veteran and was lucky as fuck that kept knocking out starting QBs

I don’t see anyone who WANTED to hire Sonny Dykes in this thread.

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1 hour ago, closetohumping said:

I wanted to take a break from this thread as it’s gone off rails but I want to be sure I have this right.  We’re pissing on a guy who is about to take tcu to the playoffs in part because Sark has won two in a row vs 6-6 teams?

I thought we wanted to hire Sonny at one point and he told us to fuck off? Maybe that was just to be OC or something.

Anyway good for Sonny and TCU. But TCU and Baylor doing really well isn't some new thing. They are the two programs in Texas that actually win stuff while Tech, Texas, and A&M trip over themselves on an annual basis.

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3 hours ago, HenryJames said:

He took a 4-8 Louisiana Tech team to 5-7 in year one.

He took a 3-9 Cal team to 1-11 in year one.

He took a 7-6 SMU team to 5-7 in year one.

This both coaches had terrible resumes. So while we were deciding between them after getting turned down by Urban other programs a year later made real big boy moves.

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7 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

I thought we wanted to hire Sonny at one point and he told us to fuck off? Maybe that was just to be OC or something.

Anyway good for Sonny and TCU. But TCU and Baylor doing really well isn't some new thing. They are the two programs in Texas that actually win stuff while Tech, Texas, and A&M trip over themselves on an annual basis.

You’re thinking of Sonny Cumbie, who would’ve been a bad hire anyways. 

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1 hour ago, Skipper said:

He probably should be.  At the end of the day all he did was play winning football in the 4th quarter all season long.   If we had similar consistency we are probably 11-1 with sole loss being the officiating screwjob against Alabama.

No probably to it. Completed 70% of his passes, 3100 yards, 29/3. For the 3rd ranked team in country. That 4Q performance against Baylor game was outstanding. All of TCU's weapons were on the bench and Duggan made every play, run or throw to give them a chance to win the game. He wasn't going to let TCU lose, and they didn't.

Williams is the best player in the country. Duggan will finish as runnerup for the Trophy, top 3 worse. And it's deserved. 

 

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19 hours ago, Godzillatron said:

Some of y’all that are closer to the AD, any truth to the rumor that del Conte wanted Dykes but the BMDs didn’t think he was a big enough name?

Maybe they misunderstood him when he said he wanted dykes.

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y’all think this is true?!?? Was this what Sark was referring to when he said JT Sanders is starting to become a vocal leader??! 😂😂😂 

If true I love it but I hate it got out 

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1 hour ago, Valmy77 said:

I thought we wanted to hire Sonny at one point and he told us to fuck off? Maybe that was just to be OC or something.

Anyway good for Sonny and TCU. But TCU and Baylor doing really well isn't some new thing. They are the two programs in Texas that actually win stuff while Tech, Texas, and A&M trip over themselves on an annual basis.

I’ve read on here that we went with sark because of eltife.  I don’t think Dykes would turn us down

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3 minutes ago, closetohumping said:

I’ve read on here that we went with sark because of eltife.  I don’t think Dykes would turn us down

I am sitting here cracking up at the thought of how this board would have reacted to a Dykes hire in January 2021.

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22 minutes ago, Guadaloopy said:

I am sitting here cracking up at the thought of how this board would have reacted to a Dykes hire in January 2021.

especially when the refs start bumping into him for complaining.

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CDC was talking up Dykes and Franklin. It was discussed contemporaneously on this board in the Urban Meyer thread and the later confirmed by $9.95ers long after the fact when the dust had settled. CDC wasn't taken seriously during the process because of shit like that. He also balked at letting Meyer have his own AD for football, understandably but critically. 

The BOR and BMDs wanted Meyer, then Kelly, and then jumped on the rebound girl, Seven Win Steve. Love it or hate it, but that's always been the word on it all went down.

Credit to Sonny Dykes for what he's done at TCU in year 1. It's pretty stunning, but it's also very reminiscent of the run Mel Tucker and MSU had last year, in which they won a lot of very close games in the fourth quarter. That shit is very hard to replicate or repeat.

Maybe Sonny Dykes runs the table this year. Good for him and TCU if so. I'd trade a title run for a future repeat of the last 13 years, personally, so I have zero shit to talk about something crazy like that happening. 

Maybe Dykes and TCU get run over in the playoffs as many here are predicting. I don't know if that would shock me, but I view that as less likely than TCU continuing to play at a high enough level to play with and even beat any of the other teams left in the CFP. People just handing the trophy to Georgia again are being presumptuous. 

Regardless, I don't see him or TCU sniffing an opportunity again like this any time in the vaguely near future. They're going to lose a ton of talent, including Duggan, and Dykes doing it all again with a new cast recruited by his staff seems far-fetched given his history. I wasn't a fan of the Sarkisian hire, or the Herman hire for that matter, but I would have straight up vomited had Dykes been the guy. If given the choice right now for who is coaching Texas in 2023 between Sonny Dykes and Steve Sarkisian, I guess I would flip a fucking coin and kick my neighbor's dog. 

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I don't see Sark making this work, unless he relinquishes his sorry-ass clutch on the OC job and gets a real QB whisperer and play-caller. It took him 23 games to figure out that he had not one, but two, all-america caliber running backs to lean on, every game. The last 22 plays of the regular season, he either finally got it or someone told him he would be de-scrotified if he called even one pass play in the endgame.

Besides the insistence on being OC and play-caller, he hadn't seemed to grasp that his job - his main job, perhaps his only real job - is to win the game he's playing, right here, right now. He has left both Card and Ewers in games when it was clear they were hosed, apparently for future growth. Perhaps an indication of his love for the players and their tender psyches, but equally possibly simply mindless stubbornness. Whatever the problem is, I don't think it will get fixed short of a very, very good OC. I still like the idea of Riley Minor. Of course, as always, YMMV.

 

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Posted (edited)
15 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

a real QB whisperer and play-caller.

Exactly. Give us someone like Shawn Watson. That dude whispered in Teddy Bridgewater’s ear a lot!

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Posted
7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

CDC ... balked at letting Meyer have his own AD for football, understandably but critically. 

 

Been going to mention this again for awhile now, just not gotten around to it.

My take on the Urban courtship started when one of my BIL (a TCU BMD - not sure how big, but he wrote more than one check with two commas on it, fwiw) told me after a Tech game in Lubbock where he spent some time talking with a friend who is/was a UT big dog told him that Texas was pulling out all the stops to get Urban and that they were not going to be denying anything Urban asked for. I took that as gospel, even as all sorts of weird shit went on for the next several weeks, through Signing day and running into the CFP. And then... poof! I don't recall much of an explanation at the time, but it has since come out that BIL's friend was wrong - there was something Urban wanted, we denied it, he said it was non-negotiable, and it turned out that he wasn't kidding. Gotta wonder if CDC swings a big enough dick to break that deal, but the outcome seems to indicate that he does. Maybe next time...

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26 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

Exactly. Give us someone like Shawn Watson. That dude whispered in Teddy Bridgewater’s ear a lot!

Damn right! If only Charlie had taken over that job, they might've won more than seven games.

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10 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Been going to mention this again for awhile now, just not gotten around to it.

My take on the Urban courtship started when one of my BIL (a TCU BMD - not sure how big, but he wrote more than one check with two commas on it, fwiw) told me after a Tech game in Lubbock where he spent some time talking with a friend who is/was a UT big dog told him that Texas was pulling out all the stops to get Urban and that they were not going to be denying anything Urban asked for. I took that as gospel, even as all sorts of weird shit went on for the next several weeks, through Signing day and running into the CFP. And then... poof! I don't recall much of an explanation at the time, but it has since come out that BIL's friend was wrong - there was something Urban wanted, we denied it, he said it was non-negotiable, and it turned out that he wasn't kidding. Gotta wonder if CDC swings a big enough dick to break that deal, but the outcome seems to indicate that he does. Maybe next time...

Meyer allegedly wanted two things on unconditional terms:

1) the ability to build his own infrastructure on the administrative side of things

2) funding to play the bag game

In his final discussion around the premise of taking the job, he walked the people in the room/on the zoom through the state of affairs in recruiting at that point in time. He told them that if Texas didn't put itself forward to do what was necessary on that front, and he told them Texas was starting flat-footed, then Texas would never land the talent necessary again to win at the highest level. Folks were shocked at both the brazenness in which it was discussed and that it was actually viewed that way by an industry leader. It was eye-opening.

Texas walked away having failed to confirm to Meyer that he could build his own infrastructure or that they'd let him play the bag game. In hindsight, it seems like it was pretty easy for Meyer to punt on the deal and wait for something "better". 

NIL has, of course, forced UT's patrician hand, thankfully. That considered, the inertia within the big money realm for UT NIL is legit. There's a ton of "really? this is what needs to be done?" and disbelief that needs to be cut through. That kind of work takes a while.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

CDC was talking up Dykes and Franklin. It was discussed contemporaneously on this board in the Urban Meyer thread and the later confirmed by $9.95ers long after the fact when the dust had settled. CDC wasn't taken seriously during the process because of shit like that. He also balked at letting Meyer have his own AD for football, understandably but critically. 

The BOR and BMDs wanted Meyer, then Kelly, and then jumped on the rebound girl, Seven Win Steve. Love it or hate it, but that's always been the word on it all went down.

Credit to Sonny Dykes for what he's done at TCU in year 1. It's pretty stunning, but it's also very reminiscent of the run Mel Tucker and MSU had last year, in which they won a lot of very close games in the fourth quarter. That shit is very hard to replicate or repeat.

Maybe Sonny Dykes runs the table this year. Good for him and TCU if so. I'd trade a title run for a future repeat of the last 13 years, personally, so I have zero shit to talk about something crazy like that happening. 

Maybe Dykes and TCU get run over in the playoffs as many here are predicting. I don't know if that would shock me, but I view that as less likely than TCU continuing to play at a high enough level to play with and even beat any of the other teams left in the CFP. People just handing the trophy to Georgia again are being presumptuous. 

Regardless, I don't see him or TCU sniffing an opportunity again like this any time in the vaguely near future. They're going to lose a ton of talent, including Duggan, and Dykes doing it all again with a new cast recruited by his staff seems far-fetched given his history. I wasn't a fan of the Sarkisian hire, or the Herman hire for that matter, but I would have straight up vomited had Dykes been the guy. If given the choice right now for who is coaching Texas in 2023 between Sonny Dykes and Steve Sarkisian, I guess I would flip a fucking coin and kick my neighbor's dog. 

AHEM!!

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29 minutes ago, Hookem2147 said:

It’s funny to see stuff like this because you would think we had Bijan Robinson sitting on the sideline all game next to DJ Monroe, then you realize Robinson led the entire country in all-purpose yards this year.

Too bad it wasn't all-purpose winning. Maybe if we just took off a few carries or targets from the RBs and let QB1 or QB2 throw another eight or ten incompletions?

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9 minutes ago, Tex Long said:

Too bad it wasn't all-purpose winning. Maybe if we just took off a few carries or targets from the RBs and let QB1 or QB2 throw another eight or ten incompletions?

Sounds like something a chicken fucker would say

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11 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Meyer allegedly wanted two things on unconditional terms:

1) the ability to build his own infrastructure on the administrative side of things

2) funding to play the bag game

In his final discussion around the premise of taking the job, he walked the people in the room/on the zoom through the state of affairs in recruiting at that point in time. He told them that if Texas didn't put itself forward to do what was necessary on that front, and he told them Texas was starting flat-footed, then Texas would never land the talent necessary again to win at the highest level. Folks were shocked at both the brazenness in which it was discussed and that it was actually viewed that way by an industry leader. It was eye-opening.

Texas walked away having failed to confirm to Meyer that he could build his own infrastructure or that they'd let him play the bag game. In hindsight, it seems like it was pretty easy for Meyer to punt on the deal and wait for something "better". 

NIL has, of course, forced UT's patrician hand, thankfully. That considered, the inertia within the big money realm for UT NIL is legit. There's a ton of "really? this is what needs to be done?" and disbelief that needs to be cut through. That kind of work takes a while.

I took the recruiting - gaming - payola as being a given for any coach worthy of being hired at a major player. It's a bit surprising that admin/BMD would even consider balking at discussing the matter at all, at all. No sensible coach would allow the school to stick knowledge of, much less participation in, any even slightly  unsavory activity in the coach's files. But, yeah, I see it as part of the build your own internal o-chart with suitable patsies in place, just in case something comes out, for which you wouldn't want to have to take responsibility. 

If this was the Pope 'splaining it as a duality, fine, but I still see it as a single issue. I was -and am - surprised to find that the clean hands patrol is peopled by such short-sighted individuals.

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Posted
24 minutes ago, BERT said:

AHEM!!

Interestingly enough, if you disregard his 3-2 record in 2015 when he drank himself out of his job, Sark's win tally in his 8 full seasons is currently 56-44.

With a strong bowl performance, we can upgrade to "7.125 Win Steve" 

Exciting times. 

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10 minutes ago, Blotto said:

Interestingly enough, if you disregard his 3-2 record in 2015 when he drank himself out of his job, Sark's win tally in his 8 full seasons is currently 56-44.

With a strong bowl performance, we can upgrade to "7.125 Win Steve" 

Exciting times. 

Sure thing

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1 hour ago, Tex Long said:

I don't see Sark making this work

 

Depends mainly on if the improvement the defense showed wasn't a mirage. If they play great next year then suddenly Sark's position looks really different. But I am skeptical that will continue. Coaches in the Big 12 are pretty good at ripping your defense apart once they have enough film and a lot can change over an offseason. But we'll see.

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It took him 23 games to figure out that he had not one, but two, all-america caliber running backs to lean on, every game. The last 22 plays of the regular season, he either finally got it or someone told him he would be de-scrotified if he called even one pass play in the endgame.

Um he ran the fuck out of both of those guys the last two years. But there is more to running the ball than just having running backs. You need blockers who can clear the way. Currently we aren't physically dominant up front to just be one dimensional against everybody. TCU had us locked down. Now some have argued we just should have rammed into the purple brickwall over and over and maybe it would have crumbled. Maybe. 

I just don't think running the ball over and over again without any variation is a viable strategy to a championship in today's game. You have to pass, or at least have the other team worried about you passing. 

I have no reason to think that Brooks and Blue will be a serious drop off after Roschon and Bijan next season and the line will hopefully be better. And surely the passing game has got to get better. 

My problem with writing off Sark this early is that his first two teams were very flawed personnel wise with exploitable weaknesses. Now granted I don't think we were 5-7 bad last year...but there are signs that maybe things might work out if he keeps recruiting strong.

Or it might all fall apart and Sark sucks and on to the next chump. That is the expected outcome based on past results for this program. But hey we'll see. At least our basketball team is good.

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1 hour ago, closetojumping said:

I wasn't a fan of the Sarkisian hire, or the Herman hire for that matter, but I would have straight up vomited had Dykes been the guy. If given the choice right now for who is coaching Texas in 2023 between Sonny Dykes and Steve Sarkisian, I guess I would flip a fucking coin and kick my neighbor's dog. 

My reaction to hiring Sarkisian was one of stunned disbelief. Had we hired Dykes, it would have been one of stunned disbelief.

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7 hours ago, ClubWhatever said:

I bet Loop 1604 feels terrible now.

Not really. I don’t need internet cred to feel good every day while agreeing with the surly hivemind.
 

I hope I’m dead wrong about Sark. Really doesn’t matter since I don’t make any decisions regarding his tenure. Thank God it’s basketball season. 

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3 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

My reaction to hiring Sarkisian was one of stunned disbelief. Had we hired Dykes, it would have been one of stunned disbelief.

One of my good friends called me the night before the Sarkisian hire was announced. He'd been adamant for weeks that the Sarkisian rumors were bullshit. 

Friend: "Hey man, it looks like it is actually going to be Steve Sarkisian. "

Me: "You are being trolled, or you are just fucking with me."

Friend: "No, man, I've checked in 3 places now. It's him unless I am really being fucked with for no reason."

Me: "..."

Friend: "The more I've thought about it, the more I am starting to really like it. Think about it this way ..."

Me: "Hey man, shut the fuck up. I don't need rationalizations right now. This is a terrible fucking hire and you know it. Jesus. There's no way this is true. None. I refuse to believe it."

Friend: "Ok, man, well, I have other calls to make. Time to start selling it it yourself."

I hung up the phone and took my wife and kids to dinner and convinced myself that there was no fucking way. The next day Herman was fired and Sarkisian was hired, from a public announcement perspective, within like 20 minutes of each other. I am still in stunned disbelief. But, hey, I'm hoping 2023 is the big year. Got to close well with SD1 and Portal Cycle 1, for sure. Hope is now my strategy. 

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3 minutes ago, Tex Pete said:

My reaction to hiring Sarkisian was one of stunned disbelief. Had we hired Dykes, it would have been one of stunned disbelief.

I didn’t want Dykes either. Nothing personal. I think he deserves all the accolades for taking a team that was a bottom dweller in the Big12 last year and bringing in phenomenal coordinators. It will be hard to keep Riley. My question really is a hypothetical: if Dykes had been hired bringing in the same staff, are we sitting on a perfect regular season with a chance to not only win the Big12 but positioned to be in the CFP? That’s my question. TCU needed to hit the reset button on Patterson. Whether it was ennui or whatever was going on they needed a spark. The team has bought in. Dykes is a dynamic personality and I’m sure a great recruiter and well liked and all that. He’s only as good though as his coordinators and he has a gem in Riley. But we see teams in the NFL do this all the time: go all in on what they have because they believe they are close enough. And then in year 3 all the wheels come off the wagon. But they can and have won MNC with that philosophy. No one can truly answer whether Dykes could have come in here and done that with Texas this year. But it’s still food for thought. 
 

PS—with our RB tandem (dare I say damn close to a Priest Holmes and Ricky tandem—-not as good mind you—-but damn close) I would have liked to see what Riley and Dykes could have done with it this year. Maybe they’ll make a video game…

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12 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

One of my good friends called me the night before the Sarkisian hire was announced. He'd been adamant for weeks that the Sarkisian rumors were bullshit. 

Friend: "Hey man, it looks like it is actually going to be Steve Sarkisian. "

Me: "You are being trolled, or you are just fucking with me."

Friend: "No, man, I've checked in 3 places now. It's him unless I am really being fucked with for no reason."

Me: "..."

Friend: "The more I've thought about it, the more I am starting to really like it. Think about it this way ..."

Me: "Hey man, shut the fuck up. I don't need rationalizations right now. This is a terrible fucking hire and you know it. Jesus. There's no way this is true. None. I refuse to believe it."

Friend: "Ok, man, well, I have other calls to make. Time to start selling it it yourself."

My friends immediately started the rationalizations. My only rationalization (to myself) was, "At least it isn't James Franklin." We're all still holding our dicks.

I'm still in stunned disbelief. I absolutely loathe the administration of this program over the course of my lifetime. We're driving a Ferrari with a Yugo carburetor regulating the fuel distribution. "All gas!"

 

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On 11/26/2022 at 10:03 AM, lilMAC25 said:

Im personally pretty high on Brooks. Kid can tote the rock. Not sure about pass blocking or blitz pickup.

I do not know either but, he stood up a linebacker on one of the last three plays. He also works hard on special teams. I think we got a good one.

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