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2 minutes ago, Senator Mendoza said:

That entire draft was painful. Wish Kyle Shanahan had thrown Texas a bone with that last pick, but I guess not. Hopefully 2022 is a banner year on the field and the 2023 draft reflects that.

Would've gotten clowned even more than they already are for having their only draft pick being called "Mr. Irrelevant" 

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Just now, TexasMan said:

Would've gotten clowned even more than they already are for having their only draft pick being called "Mr. Irrelevant" 

Still would have rather had a pick than not. Not getting one means we have to explain why to every kid we recruit this year because we all know every school we recruit against will push the "highly ranked class, 0 draft picks" narrative. 

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2022 Draft by college

Georgia 15
LSU 10
Cincinnati 9
Penn State 8
Oklahoma 7
Alabama 7
Ole Miss 6
Ohio State 6
UCLA 6
Baylor 6
Tennessee 5
Michigan 5
Wisconsin 5
Virginia Tech 4
Texas A&M 4
Minnesota 4
Iowa State 4
Kentucky 4
Washington 4
Arizona State 4
San Diego State 4
Michigan State 4
North Carolina 4
South Carolina 3
Oklahoma State 3
Arkansas 3
Houston 3
Purdue 3
Illinois 3
Florida 3
USC 3
Nebraska 3
SMU 2
Coastal Carolina 2
Texas Tech 2
Mississippi State 2
Maryland 2
Missouri 2
South Dakota State 2
Montana State 2
Central Michigan 2
NC State 2
Pittsburgh 2
Tulsa 2
Rutgers 2
Iowa 2
Memphis 2
Wake Forest 2
California 2
Western Kentucky 2
Toledo 2
Kansas State 2
Louisiana 2
UTSA 2
Nevada 2
Washington State 2
North Dakota State 2
Notre Dame 2
Clemson 2
Utah 1
Jackson State 1
Miami (FL) 1
BYU 1
UCF 1
Auburn 1
Virginia 1
Wyoming 1
Fayetteville State 1
Youngstown State 1
North Dakota 1
Ouachita Baptist 1
UConn 1
Indiana 1
Valdosta State 1
Boise State 1
Northwest Missouri State 1
Lenoir–Rhyne 1
Western Michigan 1
Liberty 1
Marshall 1
Sam Houston State 1
Air Force 1
Samford 1
UAB 1
Colorado State 1
Florida State 1
Missouri State 1
Kansas 1
South Alabama 1
Northern Iowa 1
Appalachian State 1
Villanova 1
South Carolina State 1
Fordham 1
Boston College 1
Fresno State 1
Southern 1
Chattanooga 1
Southern Utah 1
Miami (OH) 1
Stanford 1
Yale 1
Oregon 1
Georgia Tech 1
Oregon State 1
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Sigh…but “We’re Texas!”

For only the second time since 1937, Texas was shut out of the NFL draft with no Longhorns getting selected in the league’s 87th annual selection meeting, which ended on Saturday.
 

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Sigh…but “We’re Texas!”

For only the second time since 1937, Texas was shut out of the NFL draft with no Longhorns getting selected in the league’s 87th annual selection meeting, which ended on Saturday.
 

Nicole bringing the breaking news

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17 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

I personally don’t give a fuck that we didn’t have anyone drafted. I wasn’t operating under the illusion that we had a bunch of talented upperclassmen on the roster.

We went 5-7, didnt make a bowl, had a bunch of player issues, and Herman did a horrendous job of talent development. Is anyone surprised?

 

the bigger question in my mind is:

How did LSU have 10 players drafted and lose 7 games plus their bowl game to Kansas State?

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Besides internet trolls and media hyperbole, it’s really not that big of a deal. Bijan is likely first RB taken next year. Overshown & Jamison are mid rounders that can work up. Coburn, Rocshon, Watts, Billingsley, can jump in with good seasons. This likely the last of the shitty draft turnouts for the foreseeable future

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2022 Draft by college
Georgia 15
LSU 10
Cincinnati 9
Penn State 8
Oklahoma 7
Alabama 7
Ole Miss 6
Ohio State 6
UCLA 6
Baylor 6
Tennessee 5
Michigan 5
Wisconsin 5
Virginia Tech 4
Texas A&M 4
Minnesota 4
Iowa State 4
Kentucky 4
Washington 4
Arizona State 4
San Diego State 4
Michigan State 4
North Carolina 4
South Carolina 3
Oklahoma State 3
Arkansas 3
Houston 3
Purdue 3
Illinois 3
Florida 3
USC 3
Nebraska 3
SMU 2
Coastal Carolina 2
Texas Tech 2
Mississippi State 2
Maryland 2
Missouri 2
South Dakota State 2
Montana State 2
Central Michigan 2
NC State 2
Pittsburgh 2
Tulsa 2
Rutgers 2
Iowa 2
Memphis 2
Wake Forest 2
California 2
Western Kentucky 2
Toledo 2
Kansas State 2
Louisiana 2
UTSA 2
Nevada 2
Washington State 2
North Dakota State 2
Notre Dame 2
Clemson 2
Utah 1
Jackson State 1
Miami (FL) 1
BYU 1
UCF 1
Auburn 1
Virginia 1
Wyoming 1
Fayetteville State 1
Youngstown State 1
North Dakota 1
Ouachita Baptist 1
UConn 1
Indiana 1
Valdosta State 1
Boise State 1
Northwest Missouri State 1
Lenoir–Rhyne 1
Western Michigan 1
Liberty 1
Marshall 1
Sam Houston State 1
Air Force 1
Samford 1
UAB 1
Colorado State 1
Florida State 1
Missouri State 1
Kansas 1
South Alabama 1
Northern Iowa 1
Appalachian State 1
Villanova 1
South Carolina State 1
Fordham 1
Boston College 1
Fresno State 1
Southern 1
Chattanooga 1
Southern Utah 1
Miami (OH) 1
Stanford 1
Yale 1
Oregon 1
Georgia Tech 1
Oregon State 1

UTSA had 2. How many of all these out of state school draftees were Texas high schoolers? That would be interesting.

To have zero in a year as rich and deep as this one is a problem. You have super seniors, seniors, and juniors. Did any scouts show up for Pro Day?
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4 minutes ago, Texzilla58 said:


UTSA had 2. How many of all these out of state school draftees were Texas high schoolers? That would be interesting.

To have zero in a year as rich and deep as this one is a problem. You have super seniors, seniors, and juniors. Did any scouts show up for Pro Day?

Pro Day?  A set up to succeed show?  How about a season’s worth of tape including those 6 straight losses in real games?

We see what we want to see, the NFL sees reality.

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The avg recruiting class was 8th in past 5 years.  

And to pour salt on wounds check out where most NFL recruits came from: 

Where 2022 NFL Draft picks played high school football (Day 1-2 picks in parentheses): 
TX- 37 (11) 
GA- 29 (11) 
FL- 23 (11) 
CA- 22 (10) 
AL- 12 (10) 
OH- 12 (3) 
LA- 10 (4) 
TN- 10 (3) 
NC- 10 (2) 
MD- 9 (4) 
MO-7 (2) 
NJ- 6 (3) 
IL- 6 (1) 
SC- 6 (1) 
VA- 6 (0)

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2 hours ago, Shaggy3.0 said:

well, we did hire tom fuckin herman,  so there's the reason.

Yep, sign 53 recruits over two years. Run them all off so that only 20% are still on the team when they are draft eligible.

Bright side, technically, we only had two players with NFL aspirations and 0 for 2 isn't too terrible.

Fuck.

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Pro Day?  A set up to succeed show?  How about a season’s worth of tape including those 6 straight losses in real games?
We see what we want to see, the NFL sees reality.


Not exactly.

Kerstetter has played against more NFLers/draftees than any non-SEC OT, has graded damn good. Not worth a 7th rounder? Thompson ran a good 40 at the combine. Will hit you. Not worth a 7th rounder?


They’re pulling stuff out their ass all the time.
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11 minutes ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

The avg recruiting class was 8th in past 5 years.  

And to pour salt on wounds check out where most NFL recruits came from: 

Where 2022 NFL Draft picks played high school football (Day 1-2 picks in parentheses): 
TX- 37 (11) 
GA- 29 (11) 
FL- 23 (11) 
CA- 22 (10) 
AL- 12 (10) 
OH- 12 (3) 
LA- 10 (4) 
TN- 10 (3) 
NC- 10 (2) 
MD- 9 (4) 
MO-7 (2) 
NJ- 6 (3) 
IL- 6 (1) 
SC- 6 (1) 
VA- 6 (0)

amazing such a short list , no one from PA, MI, OR, WA, KY (even though those schools had draftees) ? 

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1 hour ago, Make em eat Taco Bell said:

amazing such a short list , no one from PA, MI, OR, WA, KY (even though those schools had draftees) ? 

List doesn't appear to be correct, or is cut off for some reason.  The #2 pick is from Michigan and played HS football there.  Dude hasn't moved outside of like a 50 mile radius his whole football career now that he was drafted by the Lions.

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1 hour ago, Bullneck said:

Maybe we should be happy we were competitive in the games we in last year.  🤪

That's right,  we might have great coaches and not know it. 

But back to reality,  it really shows us where we are. 

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6 hours ago, Helobious said:

Strong was the shittier coach but knew what decent talent looked like. Herman was the better coach but was utter trash at identifying talent.

He was better at both. He’s just an ass and wasn’t that good of a coach. This year’s team was terrible. Our best players were a true freshman, a true sophomore and a should-have-been HS senior living in Columbus. All will be drafted in top 3 rounds. 

It is really really hard to have a good team and put skill position players in a position for success when your line sucks as bad as ours does. Both lines have been bad for 5 years and our OL has been straight trash for 15 years. No idea why we’ve had this collective failure through at least 3 coaching staffs. It’s like Strong and Herman didn’t even try to right Mack’s terrible OL recruitment and development. 

Until further notice, we are a joke.  

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2 hours ago, Had Enough said:

 


Not exactly.

Kerstetter has played against more NFLers/draftees than any non-SEC OT, has graded damn good. Not worth a 7th rounder? Thompson ran a good 40 at the combine. Will hit you. Not worth a 7th rounder?


They’re pulling stuff out their ass all the time.

 

Yeah I’m gonna go with the NFL knows a lot more about quality talent than any UT coaching staff post 2006, and certainly more than UT fans, and I’m not using fucking Kerstetter as an example of a draft snub. He was part of 4-5 shit lines. 

Also, pro teams are certainly shying away from the loser mentality that our program emanates. 

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Yeah I’m gonna go with the NFL knows a lot more about quality talent than any UT coaching staff post 2006, and certainly more than UT fans, and I’m not using fucking Kerstetter as an example of a draft snub. He was part of 4-5 shit lines. 
Also, pro teams are certainly shying away from the loser mentality that our program emanates. 

As shitty as we are, there were a multitude of players who have lost more games with a worse career winning percentage than our guys. As if the NFL gives a damn about your teams record. If a guy has a crappy attitude and his team is poor in part because of that attitude, then that guy probably gets docked. And in a case like Kerstetter, you have film of him going against teams with guys that you’ve drafted. And he faired well in spite of that shitty coaching that he’s received. Exceeded his recruiting expectations. Came back from a serious injury. It is that kind of coaching he received right? So maybe he’s not maxed out.

For our program, one year of the draft is not a big deal. Then when our draftable guys are pretty much 3 stars and a specialist, that too is not overly alarming. I’m not surprised our interior guys who couldn’t lock down a starting position until their last year weren’t drafted. It is not alarming that transfers that Bama and LSU failed to develop weren’t drafted. Even had we gotten 3 guys drafted in rounds 5-7, we’re still in the same spot as a program. This staff had little to do with this years draftable status players so it’s pretty weak to hold it against them.

There are some NFL guys who are very good at the personnel side, but there are likely quite a few morons just like in any industry. And there’s proof of failings when draft picks careers tank and Undrafted guys have solid careers. Those collective of geniuses passed on Poona Ford cause he’s short. They all failed. For a stupid reason.
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44 minutes ago, Had Enough said:


As shitty as we are, there were a multitude of players who have lost more games with a worse career winning percentage than our guys. As if the NFL gives a damn about your teams record. If a guy has a crappy attitude and his team is poor in part because of that attitude, then that guy probably gets docked. And in a case like Kerstetter, you have film of him going against teams with guys that you’ve drafted. And he faired well in spite of that shitty coaching that he’s received. Exceeded his recruiting expectations. Came back from a serious injury. It is that kind of coaching he received right? So maybe he’s not maxed out.

For our program, one year of the draft is not a big deal. Then when our draftable guys are pretty much 3 stars and a specialist, that too is not overly alarming. I’m not surprised our interior guys who couldn’t lock down a starting position until their last year weren’t drafted. It is not alarming that transfers that Bama and LSU failed to develop weren’t drafted. Even had we gotten 3 guys drafted in rounds 5-7, we’re still in the same spot as a program. This staff had little to do with this years draftable status players so it’s pretty weak to hold it against them.

There are some NFL guys who are very good at the personnel side, but there are likely quite a few morons just like in any industry. And there’s proof of failings when draft picks careers tank and Undrafted guys have solid careers. Those collective of geniuses passed on Poona Ford cause he’s short. They all failed. For a stupid reason.

It is a huge indictment to have no players drafted. It’s a sign of a terrible program. I agree it’s not on Sark. I disagree with the general sentiment that the NFL collective is dumb to not draft Thompson or Kerstetter. We suck. At a minimum we should own the fact that we suck. 

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It is a huge indictment to have no players drafted. It’s a sign of a terrible program. I agree it’s not on Sark. I disagree with the general sentiment that the NFL collective is dumb to not draft Thompson or Kerstetter. We suck. At a minimum we should own the fact that we suck. 

We were 5-7. It is what it is. But the draftable talent was recruited and brought in under a different staff and largely developed under a different staff. You agreed it’s not a Sark but still a huge indictment. Of where we were but not necessarily where we’re going. There’s doubt where we’re going.

The NFL collective is dumb because they draft a system QB like Baker Mayfield #1. That for years they disregarded any smallish WRs because of their size. There still are franchises that don’t realize that success starts upfront on both sides of the ball. Actually, I’m not saying the collective is dumb, but there are several that are not good at it. And even amongst those that are good, they will make poor decisions just like any others would.

We’ve lacked at Oline for years. We’ve done a terrible job at producing top flight WRs given the level of talent in-state for forever. Outside of Ossai we’ve struggled for a pass rusher for quite a few years. We didn’t need this years draft to tell us that.

The big question is it development or talent acquisition. It’s really both but which way is it weighted more towards.
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So if you are pissed off about the draft, ponder this for a moment.

In the last 40 years of college football, how many top football programs that fell as low and as bad as Texas has fallen, eventually turned it around into a consistent winning program?

I’ve got one team - Alabama, and it took the greatest coach in history to turn them around. So we’ve got that going for us. 
 

 

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