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It's hard to blame Gundy in the NIL era. He lost his sugar daddy. OkieLite was always little sister even with Pickens money.

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1 hour ago, lilMAC25 said:

Team is terrible and he’s ultimately to blame.

 

i don’t think he makes it to the end of the season without being fired.

I doubt OSU would fire a coach like Gundy whom has done so much for the program in the middle of season. Ain't happening. At least, I hope not. 

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1 hour ago, EuroHorn said:

Maybe we can trade Arch for Gundy.  Gundy could still hit the broad side of a barn 

My father-in-law, as great a man who ever lived and a most frank and candid son of the depression, had a way with words.  He also held the occasional wager on college football games. On autumn Saturday mornings his kitchen table in Tuscaloosa, upon which the line sheets were spread, was like the set of The Sting.  During the desert wandering years before Saban, Alabama once had a QB2 who was a baseball pitcher.  QB1 went down to a knee injury, and the pitcher started a few games.  I believe we lost them all.  Dad’s customers continued to bet Bama anyway, every week.  He would jack up the line, pretending it had shifted.  If the actual line was Bama -6, he would “adjust” the 6 to 10 or 11 and make a few extra bucks each weekend. He knew he was safe because of the baseball QB, who was a decent athlete but a shitty passer. “That boy couldn’t hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle.” Dad would have a heyday with this SEC.

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21 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I doubt OSU would fire a coach like Gundy whom has done so much for the program in the middle of season. Ain't happening. At least, I hope not. 

Probably not. But like, everyone knows this is the end. Just waiting out the clock, like Mack Brown in 2013

Hopefully Gundy doesn’t go kill himself recruiting in Florida and then fly circles around Stillwater to avoid the firing meeting 

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12 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

My father-in-law, as great a man who ever lived and a most frank and candid son of the depression, had a way with words.  He also held the occasional wager on college football games. On autumn Saturday mornings his kitchen table in Tuscaloosa, upon which the line sheets were spread, was like the set of The Sting.  During the desert wandering years before Saban, Alabama once had a QB2 who was a baseball pitcher.  QB1 went down to a knee injury, and the pitcher started a few games.  I believe we lost them all.  Dad’s customers continued to bet Bama anyway, every week.  He would jack up the line, pretending it had shifted.  If the actual line was Bama -6, he would “adjust” the 6 to 10 or 11 and make a few extra bucks each weekend. He knew he was safe because of the baseball QB, who was a decent athlete but a shitty passer. “That boy couldn’t hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle.” Dad would have a heyday with this SEC.

Drinking started early for you this morning, I see 

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Just now, honolulu horn said:

Drinking started early for you this morning, I see 

Good one, Kahuna Horn. In my dotage (74) and since Bama’s off this week, I was reflecting on autumn Saturday mornings at my in-laws circa 1970-2000, which were joyfully entertaining.  Never been a morning drinker, but there’s a first time for everything.  Good luck tonight over the Shoustons.

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20 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Probably not. But like, everyone knows this is the end. Just waiting out the clock, like Mack Brown in 2013

Hopefully Gundy doesn’t go kill himself recruiting in Florida and then fly circles around Stillwater to avoid the firing meeting 

I don’t think he really cares anymore, he probably has plenty of money.  If he took half his salary every year and used it to buy up trailer parks, he probably owns the whole state by now.   Plus all the mineral rights, wait is meth a mineral?

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53 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I doubt OSU would fire a coach like Gundy whom has done so much for the program in the middle of season. Ain't happening. At least, I hope not. 

In today's environment? They're looking around and seeing programs improve quickly through NIL. Gundy thought he was being morally superior by not going that route. I understand he's down a qb and some guys, but that's a piss poor team he's trotting out there. And then you have similar programs in conference,  like Tech and to some extent,  ASU, who are thriving because they're playing the NIL game. 

If this keeps up, game 6. There's never been any loyalty in college football.  

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59 minutes ago, TreatyOak said:

I doubt OSU would fire a coach like Gundy whom has done so much for the program in the middle of season. Ain't happening. At least, I hope not. 

TCU did it to Patterson mid season

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The "durnit, they were doin' different stuff" comment post game hit a little too close to home.

"I thought (Tulsa) did a great job early in the game with some of the concepts that we hadn't (anticipated) on defense," Gundy said.

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28 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

Good one, Kahuna Horn. In my dotage (74) and since Bama’s off this week, I was reflecting on autumn Saturday mornings at my in-laws circa 1970-2000, which were joyfully entertaining.  Never been a morning drinker, but there’s a first time for everything.  Good luck tonight over the Shoustons.

I enjoyed the stories, to be clear -- roll on

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11 minutes ago, Dewey said:

In today's environment? They're looking around and seeing programs improve quickly through NIL. Gundy thought he was being morally superior by not going that route. I understand he's down a qb and some guys, but that's a piss poor team he's trotting out there. And then you have similar programs in conference,  like Tech and to some extent,  ASU, who are thriving because they're playing the NIL game. 

If this keeps up, game 6. There's never been any loyalty in college football.  

I like to think that we broke OSU in our final Big XII championship game. They haven't been relevant since. 

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That's said without any animosity toward the Pokes, who I actually root for most weekends.
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1 hour ago, TreatyOak said:

I doubt OSU would fire a coach like Gundy whom has done so much for the program in the middle of season. Ain't happening. At least, I hope not. 

TCU did with Gary and if Ok State is smart they will pull the trigger on Gundy before he burns the program down.  

Dykes might not be the long term answer for TCU, but Gary was about to blow the program up that he had worked so hard to build and a change had to be made for the good of the program.

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26 minutes ago, tx ind said:

TCU did it to Patterson mid season

As noted by others, slightly different situation, as Patterson and TCU were at odds. While the school probably isn't happy w Gundy, he did restructure his contract to provide more money for investment. I think he gets the grace of a full season. Perhaps @'stache can elaborate on the current climate. 

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Things need to be done in a certain order, or failure is almost guaranteed. 
 
They need the AD position to be stable first. 
 
(That said, Texas honored this in 2013 and screwed up totally by hiring Steve Patterson). 

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6 minutes ago, statsman said:

Things need to be done in a certain order, or failure is almost guaranteed. 
 
They need the AD position to be stable first. 
 
(That said, Texas honored this in 2013 and screwed up totally by hiring Steve Patterson). 

I truly believe Steve was hired for a specific reason.  

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56 minutes ago, tx ind said:

TCU did it to Patterson mid season

 

TCU had enough petty cash on hand.

OSU owes Gundy $15 million outright if they fire him.  The amount doesn't decrease until sometime in 2027.   

In other words, they could fire him and pay up.  Or, maybe negotiate something lower in exchange for his "retirement" this winter.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Bama Llama said:

 “That boy couldn’t hit a bull in the ass with a bass fiddle.” Dad would have a heyday with this SEC.

I always heard it phrased to accent the B-sound alliteration: "Couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle." But then, I've been known to put the ac-CENT on the wrong syl-LAH-ble.

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He’ll get the rest of the season and retire. I really don’t want an interim then questions whether to just hire that person. Need a complete reset.

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8 minutes ago, Royale with cheese said:

I always heard it phrased to accent the B-sound alliteration: "Couldn't hit a bull in the butt with a bass fiddle." But then, I've been known to put the ac-CENT on the wrong syl-LAH-ble.

Your way reads better as an alliterative line, yes indeed.  My F-I-L never missed a chance to use the word “ass” even if “butt” would sound better.  For example, he would say “signed, sealed and delivered ASS” when theorizing about a rigged bout he booked that ended up costing him $$.

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Question- googling shows the Pickens foundation still giving to OSU athletics. Maybe not Phil Knight money, but still something significant. Does the foundation limit how it’s used?

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Boone’s final gift to OSU was primarily for education and some for golf. I doubt he’d be interested in funding $40 million annual football payroll. More than half of what he gave overall to OSU was for education. 

https://news.okstate.edu/articles/communications/2023/oklahoma_state_university_receives_a_120_million_gift_from_t_boone_pickens_foundation.html

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48 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Boone’s final gift to OSU was primarily for education and some for golf. I doubt he’d be interested in funding $40 million annual football payroll. More than half of what he gave overall to OSU was for education. 

https://news.okstate.edu/articles/communications/2023/oklahoma_state_university_receives_a_120_million_gift_from_t_boone_pickens_foundation.html

Questions, talking to a TCU alum who was a business associate of Boone's and he thought, wasn't sure, but thought he remembered some poison pill aspect of Boone's gift to Ok State had a contingency of Gundy remaining as the HC.

The friend couldn't remember the details and he had been tail gating fairly hard this morning prior to the SMU game so that could be some mistakes due to bourbon, but have you heard anything similar or drunken stupor bullshit?

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