the 2023 speaker of the house voting thread of implosion

[Michael Knight 12853]

 

[hayden_horn 11358]

3 minutes ago, NameAlreadyInUse said:

Yep I still go to that Slaughter/Manchaca HEB because they have a spice blend that's awesome that isn't carried at my brand new HEB on south congress/slaughter.  And neither of them carry tamales of the caliber of my local Fiesta.  

heb, i love ya, but your tamales are trash. 

there, i feel good having typed it out. i love everything heb, but their tamales are a massive fail. 

mccarthy down for a third time. the feisty minority standing pretty strong at the moment.

do they continue supporting jordan, or do they shift to possible compromise?

oh wait, there is no compromise with these 19 crazy people. 

[Aqua Buddha 14464]

One random Dem should nominate Santos.

[NameAlreadyInUse 5102]

1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

Anyone know why this vote happens by roll call vs. electronic?  To inform who needs to be negotiated with?

Also, is there a point in time they go home for the day?

I've read in the past that if the third or fourth ballot doesn't do the trick in any given day, they usually adjourn for the day and try again tomorrow.  Presumably, this gives the candidates time to go whip votes or whatever.  Can't answer the first question. 

[hayden_horn 11358]

Just now, NameAlreadyInUse said:

I've read in the past that if the third or fourth ballot doesn't do the trick in any given day, they usually adjourn for the day and try again tomorrow.  Presumably, this gives the candidates time to go whip votes or whatever.  Can't answer the first question. 

or it's when the DTs and/or sundowning kick in. 

[PenelopeWitherspoon 19025]

32 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

Well, it's in Texas, so...

That is my point.  Texas is fucking lost.  I do not see it changing in the next 10-20 years either.  The nuts are fully in charge.

[Huckleberry 32660]

Maybe don't make him speaker but the Democrats absolutely should have their last member or two in the voting roll call vote for McCarthy once you know that won't give him a majority. You want to stoke the GOP fire? Give them "evidence" that he's negotiating with Democrats. Then just give a no comment to the media. 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Huckleberry

[Blotto 23366]

9 minutes ago, pacman said:

Scalise at least called the January 6 an act of terrorism.

So he blamed it on antifa/radical left?

[Beau Vine 53846]

 

[Kyrie Eleison 9312]

 

[Beau Vine 53846]

12 minutes ago, pacman said:

Scalise at least called the January 6 an act of terrorism.

He also criticized Pelosi for not calling for help, even though a video later surfaced of her calling for help with him standing inches away from her.

[Blotto 23366]

3 minutes ago, Aqua Buddha said:

One random Dem should nominate Santos.

And give a 10 minute speech highlighting his many diverse achievements: fought in Normandy, invented the Space Shuttle, all time Jeopardy money list winner, etc... Just fuck with that dude

[TheStoicPaisano 9904]

 

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

What can McCarthy offers Dems so they will help him over the finish line?  And why I don't think that the Dems should help the GOP from stepping on their own dicks right now, it never hurts to listen to offers. 

[Beau Vine 53846]

212-202-20 for the 3rd ballot. 

Whoops, now they're going back and getting people they missed, so it's still changing.  

I really want to see 1 or 2 of the 20 switch to Jeffries for the next vote just as a "warning gunshot into the air" just to see how much panic it causes.

Edited January 3, 2023 by Beau Vine

[Js1 84995]

1 minute ago, TheStoicPaisano said:

 

GOP will try to sub in Herschel Walker. 

Just now, Nice Guy Eddie said:

What can McCarthy offers Dems so they will help him over the finish line?  And why I don't think that the Dems should help the GOP from stepping on their own dicks right now, it never hurts to listen to offers. 

Nothing.

I wouldn't even entertain a single offer.  McCarthy doesn't do anything in good faith.  

[YGIFS 19447]

3 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Anyone know why this vote happens by roll call vs. electronic?  To inform who needs to be negotiated with?

Also, is there a point in time they go home for the day?

Arsonists don't go home right away.  They stay and watch what they burned to the ground for a little bit.  

It's what makes this kinda Speaker vote implosion so interesting.  We've all read stories about some all-nighter vote on a budget, or reconciliation, or defense bill.  But most of the members just go nap in their office or shower in the Capitol fitness center or go eat dinner while the speeches are going on.  They get a notice either on their phone or a staffer comes and tells them it's almost time and they click their vote real quick and go home.  Speaker votes have no time limit at all, this can go on for days.  They'll just go through the alphabet over and over again.  Now, they can choose to adjourn but I think they all wanna stay where they can see one another, who's talking with whom, etc.  

You might be an "I" and figure if the start with the "A's", that gives you time to go put your feet up or grab a drink.  But enough people ahead of you abstain, you may miss your vote as well.  They're locked in like a church youth group sleepover.  As we've posted before, this thing will be one on who votes present/who abstains/who was stuck in the bathroom/who has low blood sugar and goes to eat/etc.  218 is no longer the target.  And the target will keep changing each round.

The GOP Speaker Race will not be decided on an internal debate centrist pragmatism  or far right MAGA ideology.  It will be won by which candidate wrangles the abstain/present vote and fools enough people to pass out in their offices.  

 

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[The Dog 43716]

the democrats have exactly zero motive to help the republicans out of this mess.

[DDD Dad 14144]

So based on the most recent vote 11 republicans would need to leave before Jeffries could take the speaker spot?

[hobbes2702 12769]

12 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

heb, i love ya, but your tamales are trash. 

there, i feel good having typed it out. i love everything heb, but their tamales are a massive fail. 

mccarthy down for a third time. the feisty minority standing pretty strong at the moment.

do they continue supporting jordan, or do they shift to possible compromise?

oh wait, there is no compromise with these 19 crazy people. 

I have noticed a difference on the tamales in Sa vs Austin.

[StassneyHorn 6515]

Someone needs to nominate Trump or DeSantis for shits n gigs

[Hermanator 6863]

Republicans have gone from being leopards eating faces to monkeys fucking footballs.  

[Gatorubet 30023]

Roy being interviewed. 

[The Dog 43716]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

So based on the most recent vote 11 republicans would need to leave before Jeffries could take the speaker spot?

that's not happening.

[Beau Vine 53846]

5 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

[Bozo_Casanova 26180]

20 minutes ago, Michael Knight said:

 

That’s interesting. In other words, they want Democrats to bail them out.

 

So if I’m a Democratic deal maker, I would go to McCarthy’s people and say that we can make 16 of our folks disappear, in return for a rules package that rolls back every single HFC concession and includes Democratic committee chairs on judiciary and Ways & Means, and no Hastert rule. 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Bozo_Casanova

[Gatorubet 30023]

whichever Democrat has the largest vote win percentage needs to offer Trump as speaker in the next go round. I mean just to make republicans go on record as not voting for Trump would be hysterical.  

[YGIFS 19447]

1 minute ago, Gatorubet said:

Roy being interviewed. 

I was wondering why I just got so drowsy.  

Chip Roy, what ambien takes when ambien is having trouble sleeping.  

 

also, I'm hearing the surprise nominee that may throw a monkeywrench into a pile of monkeys fucking each other wrenches.  That new candidate?  You guess it.

Frank Stallone.

[Beau Vine 53846]

And Fox News coverage just went to The Five and the first thing they're discussing is Damar Hamlin.  

Jesse Waters is praising the NFL's response and saying the players know the risks.

[Bateshorn 9853]

20 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Anyone know why this vote happens by roll call vs. electronic?  To inform who needs to be negotiated with?

Also, is there a point in time they go home for the day?

The board is Yeah, Nay, Present.  It’s not equipped for this type of vote.  The Members have a unique card they stick in a slot at locations on the floor and hit a button to record their vote. The totals are projected up on the wall above the gallery behind the lectern. 

[YGIFS 19447]

1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

That’s interesting. In other words, they want Democrats to bail them out.

 

So if I’m a Democratic deal maker, I would go to McCarthy’s people and say that we can make 16 of our folks disappear, in return for a rules package that rolls back every single HFC concession and includes Democratic committee chairs and no Hastert rule. 

That is a good idea.  McCarthy knows it can burn him down the path.  But at this point, he's not even at the trailhead yet.  It won't hurt him as bad as some of the other crummy options on the tatble.  "Listen, 16 of us just got a group table at Cheesecake Factory over on H Street.  I'm handing you our list of requests into your left coat pocket.  Be smart, Kev.  We can still get some shit done together."  

[Beau Vine 53846]

5 minutes ago, Beau Vine said:

And Fox News coverage just went to The Five and the first thing they're discussing is Damar Hamlin.  

Jesse Waters is praising the NFL's response and saying the players know the risks.

Gutfeld is now praising Skip Bayless and I have to turn this off.

[Gatorubet 30023]

Roy: “SWAMP!!”. 

Drink!

[DDD Dad 14144]

9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

that's not happening.

That wasn't my question.  But thanks for playing.

[Hermanator 6863]

4 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

That is a good idea.  McCarthy knows it can burn him down the path.  But at this point, he's not even at the trailhead yet.  It won't hurt him as bad as some of the other crummy options on the tatble.  "Listen, 16 of us just got a group table at Cheesecake Factory over on H Street.  I'm handing you our list of requests into your left coat pocket.  Be smart, Kev.  We can still get some shit done together."  

What are they gonna do? Sign a contract then sue him if he doesn't follow through? There can be no deal because there's no way to enforce the terms of the deal. 

[Left Coast 863]

So is there even such a thing as a “moderate Republican “ anymore? Could the Dems and 5-10 centrist Republicans make a deal, nominate a regular Republican (if that’s a thing anymore) and blindside the lunatics? 
 

I’m sure this is wishful thinking.

[Beau Vine 53846]

CNN chick is saying that the 20 rebels are discussing proposing a motion to adjourn.  

The Dems have to vote against that.  

[DDD Dad 14144]

Just now, Beau Vine said:

CNN chick is saying that the 20 rebels are discussing proposing a motion to adjourn.  

The Dems have to vote against that.  

I think this is the first time I've seen Gym wearing a suit coat.

[Js1 84995]

2 minutes ago, Left Coast said:

So is there even such a thing as a “moderate Republican “ anymore? Could the Dems and 5-10 centrist Republicans make a deal, nominate a regular Republican (if that’s a thing anymore) and blindside the lunatics? 
 

I’m sure this is wishful thinking.

Someone like Brian Fitzpatrick if you want someone currently in the House. Don Bacon maybe. This timeline deserves a Speaker Bacon just for the name 

Edited January 3, 2023 by Js1

[Biff Tannen 45439]

11 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

 

also, I'm hearing the surprise nominee that may throw a monkeywrench into a pile of monkeys fucking each other wrenches.  That new candidate?  You guess it.

Frank Stallone.

Mister Ronan Sinatra?

[jimmyjazz 45428]

12 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

So if I’m a Democratic deal maker, I would go to McCarthy’s people and say that we can make 16 of our folks disappear, in return for a rules package that rolls back every single HFC concession and includes Democratic committee chairs on judiciary and Ways & Means, and no Hastert rule. 

What?  McCarthy would become Speaker and reneg on the deal.  There is no honor among thieves.

[YGIFS 19447]

3 minutes ago, Hermanator said:

What are they gonna do? Sign a contract then sue him if he doesn't follow through? There can be no deal because there's no way to enforce the terms of the deal. 

True, but that's where the term "Gentlemen's Agreement" comes along.  Half the deals in D.C. don't ever make it to paper.  Yet the machine keeps turning, for better or worse.  Even if it's not enforceable in court, it's very powerful to show a signed copy of your requests from McCarthy signed by him.  You show that around to FoxNews and MAGA nation, it's curtains for McCarthy.  He's probably not dumb enough to agree in writing to anything, but he's backed into a corner now.  And people do dumb shit in the corner.  

[Bateshorn 9853]

Stop suggesting a Democrats help McCarthy deal. It’s. Not. Going. To. Happen. 
 

The man is a known weakling and liar, the Dems will never help him. A coalition speaker will have to come from one of the remaining moderates or conservatives (like Tom Cole) that the D’s trust. And it will come with significant concessions for the Dems to abandon the first black man to be seriously  nominated for Speaker. 

[DDD Dad 14144]

Just now, jimmyjazz said:

What?  McCarthy would become Speaker and reneg on the deal.  There is no honor among thieves.

Renege.

[Nice Guy Eddie 13388]

If Chip Roy is voting against McCarthy, doesn't that indicate that Cruz is pulling strings behind this as well.  Or least he's a cheerleader of it.

[jimmyjazz 45428]

Just now, DDD Dad said:

Renege.

Graciass.

[Beau Vine 53846]

1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

If Chip Roy is voting against McCarthy, doesn't that indicate that Cruz is pulling strings behind this as well.  Or least he's a cheerleader of it.

[YGIFS 19447]

3 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

Renege'

"Is a dish best served cold.  Like gazpacho." /Rep. Greene 

[Hermanator 6863]

2 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

True, but that's where the term "Gentlemen's Agreement" comes along.  Half the deals in D.C. don't ever make it to paper.  Yet the machine keeps turning, for better or worse.  Even if it's not enforceable in court, it's very powerful to show a signed copy of your requests from McCarthy signed by him.  You show that around to FoxNews and MAGA nation, it's curtains for McCarthy.  He's probably not dumb enough to agree in writing to anything, but he's backed into a corner now.  And people do dumb shit in the corner.  

That doesn't exist anymore. These are the same people that supported stealing of classified documents and an attempt to overthrow the government and establish a dictator. There's no gentleman left on that side. They've completely sold out to tribal politics where the other side is the enemy so why would they honor a gentleman's agreement with the enemy? 

No democrat in their right mind would trust anything a Republican has to say anymore. They did that to themselves.