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10 hours ago, Anastasis said:

You are confusing two very different dimensions, muddling class and income distributions. I understand why the politicians do it. Not sure why you echo it. 

You of all people should know I’m not, but since I separated them by implication I would have expected that to tip you off.

Let me restate to make the point clear: the use of monetary and fiscal policy but especially the tax code to support and inflate asset values for top earners had the effect of taking the middle class “lifestyle” out of reach for the middle income people. There is still a middle class, it is simply less financially secure and affluent than it was a generation ago. 

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Biden signing an executive order about AI, including asking Congress to pass data privacy legislation for Americans (and MAGA will be like WHY DOES BIDEN WANT TO PROTECT MY PRIVACY WHAT IS HE HIDING, FUCK HIM I'M GOING TO PUT ALL OF MY INFORMATION ONLINE AND START WITH MY CREDIT CARDS)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/

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Today, President Biden issued a landmark Executive Order to ensure that America leads the way in seizing the promise and managing the risks of artificial intelligence (AI). The Executive Order establishes new standards for AI safety and security, protects Americans’ privacy, advances equity and civil rights, stands up for consumers and workers, promotes innovation and competition, advances American leadership around the world, and more.

As part of the Biden-Harris Administration’s comprehensive strategy for responsible innovation, the Executive Order builds on previous actions the President has taken, including work that led to voluntary commitments from 15 leading companies to drive safe, secure, and trustworthy development of AI.

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Republicans will argue that AI has the same right to free speech as Americans do, yada, yada, so free speech covers the right for disinformation, yada, yada, corporations are people too and so is AI.  Why can't the rurals figure out the argument for disinformation and corporations with rights means they can lie to swindle civilian rights?  

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Dark Brandon wins again:

General Motors Reaches Tentative Agreement With UAW, Potentially Ending 6-Week Strike

General Motors and the United Auto Workers union have reached a tentative contract agreement that could end a six-week-old strike against Detroit automakers.
TOM KRISHER and FRANK BAJAK
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31 minutes ago, Bullneck said:

Dark Brandon wins again:

General Motors Reaches Tentative Agreement With UAW, Potentially Ending 6-Week Strike

General Motors and the United Auto Workers union have reached a tentative contract agreement that could end a six-week-old strike against Detroit automakers.
TOM KRISHER and FRANK BAJAK

Thank god, last time Biden broke a strike in favor of the corporations we had a massive fucking toxic train derailment a couple weeks later

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8 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Biden signing an executive order about AI, including asking Congress to pass data privacy legislation for Americans (and MAGA will be like WHY DOES BIDEN WANT TO PROTECT MY PRIVACY WHAT IS HE HIDING, FUCK HIM I'M GOING TO PUT ALL OF MY INFORMATION ONLINE AND START WITH MY CREDIT CARDS)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/

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I quite like this idea. We have already proven ourselves unready for the internet. People, by and large, sure as shit cannot handle AI. Seems, at least to some degree, this blunts the potential for misuse. 

7 hours ago, StassneyHorn said:

Great, thanks for libbing up AI

I can't tell anymore but I do hope that is satire

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21 hours ago, Anastasis said:

Mid to upper middle class. People need to divorce themselves from the idea that middle income equals middle class. You are confusing two very different distributions. The American middle class has been defined by a few different aspects of lifestyle: 1) Attainable home ownership; 2) Security in the basic necessities of life; 3) Educational opportunity; 4) Leisure time; 5) Retirement security. There are some other aspects for sure, but I think those are pretty core. The reality is that middle income is not able to support those aspects in the US. It use to be, and not too long ago. But the disconnect between the income distributions and "class" segmentation is apparent at this point and only growing. But we can fix this. We just need more aircraft carrier groups on deployment. 

 

20 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

Except those aren’t middle class anymore. Middle income IS middle class. We’ve just destroyed the lifestyle we once associated with the middle class to fund asset bubbles. 

 

10 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

 

You of all people should know I’m not, but since I separated them by implication I would have expected that to tip you off.

Let me restate to make the point clear: the use of monetary and fiscal policy but especially the tax code to support and inflate asset values for top earners had the effect of taking the middle class “lifestyle” out of reach for the middle income people. There is still a middle class, it is simply less financially secure and affluent than it was a generation ago. 

Other than the bolded, which is kinda the main point of what I was responding to, I think that we are in basic agreement. 

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A challenger emerges

Gavin Newsom Officially Announces He Is Running for President By Steamrolling and then Spanking A Little Chinese Kid on the Ass

https://www.barstoolsports.com/blog/3491380/gavin-newsom-officially-announces-he-is-running-for-president-by-steamrolling-and-then-spanking-a-little-chinese-kid-on-the-ass

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My OU date and a friend’s date were smokeshows of the day back in Oct 2010 and had pics of our coolers online, before the site become AnTi-WoMeN. Hearing people talk about it now is painful. Like conservatives not knowing Babylon Bee isnt real or the libruls screaming at them for not knowing it’s fake.

 

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On 10/29/2023 at 10:16 AM, Incredulity said:

Counterpoint:

let the asset bubble triple the value of my primary residence.  Millionaire cheat code unlocked.  
 

Home prices in 20 years have gone from elevated to shocking to completely absurd.  

 

In all seriousness the reality of being a millionaire vs. the perception of the word in society at the moment is completely disconnected.  The Biden billionaire wealth tax proposal that kicked in at 100 million is of the same disconnect.
 

TLDR your money isn’t worth what it used to.

Im sure you feel the same way about healthcare and higher education and will vote for people willing to move us towards those changes. Or not because gays and fetuses or something.

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1 hour ago, 'stache said:

Im sure you feel the same way about healthcare and higher education and will vote for people willing to move us towards those changes

I absolutely think healthcare and higher education are a clusterfuck in this country.

I would guess we are diametrically opposed to how to even attempt to fix them.

It isn't single payer and "free" college.

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12 minutes ago, 'stache said:

Lol, I'm sure your people in the House will get right on those fixes as soon as they resolve drag queen storytime and Hunter's dong. 

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

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4 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?


You're not curious. If you were, you'd know that Republicans have literally no interest in doing anything when it comes to government, with the exception of lining their pockets.

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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

You know the answer. Despite every fox news anchor calling every democrat a leftist loon the vast majority of the party is still pretty conservative, barely left of center. Only a handful are brave enough to push for what works in just about every prosperous first world countries with high qualities of life. Barely left of center or people who continue to lie about elections to please a guy facing multiple indictments who openly supports enemy regimes? Choice is pretty simple.

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1 minute ago, 'stache said:

You know the answer. Despite every fox news anchor calling every democrat a leftist loon the vast majority of the party is still pretty conservative, barely left of center. Only a handful are brave enough to push for what works in just about every prosperous first world countries with high qualities of life. Barely left of center or people who continue to lie about elections to please a guy facing multiple indictments who openly supports enemy regimes? Choice is pretty simple.

In addition, lets continue to pretend that having less than 60 reliable votes in the Senate means jack shit with regard to "controlling it" with respect to passing legislation. 

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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

which party controlled House, Senate and Presidency at the same time most recently....

 

yet still no single payer... curious?

I fucking hate my insurance and am still not sold on single payer.  I don't know what the solution is to this day and I've been writing papers on it since I was in fucking high school 30 years ago.  

However, do try and remember how many attempts the Republican Party squandered to correct the Affordable Care Act (which itself is woefully flawed not because of it's inability to come up with a public option, but because it just shifted money around so we all felt we were getting more affordable care with lower monthly premiums---but ended up with markedly higher deductibles and out-of-pocket maximums).  FDR is actually to blame for it all, as irony would have it.  

Also, remember just like repealing ObamaCare and Draining the Swamp and Making America Great...this was the leadership slate:

2017-2019:  House-MAGA, Senate-MAGA, Oval-MAGA, SCOTUS-MAGA

2019-2021:  House-Democrat, Senate-MAGA, Oval-MAGA, SCOTUS-MAGA

That's 87.5% control of our federal government by MAGA for 4 solid years.  Not much to show for it except the foundation of a Civil War that I for one cannot fucking wait for because it's dipshit v. dipshit while I sit on a beach earning 20%.  

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Oh, I Understand.  
 

O’care was never even implemented because Barack kept delaying and deleting the mechanisms that were supposed to increase the size of the insurance pool.  Than the R’s chopped it up even more.  So no one could every know if it could have worked.

MAGA would have repealed it but Trump couldn’t keep his fucking mouth shut about McCain so he torpedoed the repeal.  I don’t have any idea what repeal +1 would have looked like, I’m sure it would’ve been a screwing.

There isn’t enough money to afford the leftists pipe dream universal healthcare.   Yes we should have a safety net, but it shouldn’t include 5 surgeries to cut off the diabetic limbs of Cletus because he won’t stop eating Ring Dings.
 

 IMPO markets(and yes healthcare services need to be a market) function best with robust competition for revenues.  That is so far gone from the  bastardized(read heavy gov’t involvement) market we have now.

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5 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Yeah, that's a stupid take.  Well done.


I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

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2 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

I'm guessing lots of former shut-in wells coming online, DUCs being completed, and of course longer laterals means less rigs needed

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5 minutes ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

completions be poppin, dawg

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You can show an efficient decline curve to a Texan LP, and they'd still find a way to blame its increased production on Biden.  

Gold, Silver, Sugar, Coffee.  All globally traded commodities traded at the whims of markets, currencies, and logistical options.

But Oil?  Not supply and demand and their baked in market efficiencies, not OPEC, not Putin, just the early morning futures trading whimsies of one senile old man in a cordoned off part of Maryland.  

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On 10/30/2023 at 8:10 AM, atomheartbevo said:

Biden signing an executive order about AI, including asking Congress to pass data privacy legislation for Americans (and MAGA will be like WHY DOES BIDEN WANT TO PROTECT MY PRIVACY WHAT IS HE HIDING, FUCK HIM I'M GOING TO PUT ALL OF MY INFORMATION ONLINE AND START WITH MY CREDIT CARDS)

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2023/10/30/fact-sheet-president-biden-issues-executive-order-on-safe-secure-and-trustworthy-artificial-intelligence/

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Has anyone read this Executive Order that is in tech, AI or otherwise that has a perspective? Curious to hear inputs. From some analysis I read, this document is the work of aggregating policy inputs from an extended committee of interested constituencies while also navigating the law — literally what is it that can be done to throttle artificial intelligence legally without passing any new laws that might throttle artificial intelligence. There is no clear owner of this document. There is no leading science consensus or direction that we can discern. It is impossible to separate out the document from the process and approach used to “govern” AI innovation. Govern is quoted because it is the word used in the EO. This is so much less a document of what should be done with the potential of technology than it is a document pushing the limits of what can be done legally to slow innovation.

Read this interesting blog post: https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order

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This approach to regulation is not about innovation despite all the verbiage proclaiming it to be. This Order is about stifling innovation and turning the next platform over to incumbents in the US and far more likely new companies in other countries that did not see it as a priority to halt innovation before it even happens.

I am by no means certain if AI is the next technology platform the likes of which will make the smartphone revolution that has literally benefitted every human on earth look small. I don’t know sitting here today if the AI products just in market less than a year are the next biggest thing ever. They may turn out to be a way stop on the trajectory of innovation. They may turn out to be ingredients that everyone incorporates into existing products. There are so many things that we do not yet know.

What we do know is that we are at the very earliest stages. We simply have no in-market products, and that means no in-market problems, upon which to base such concerns of fear and need to “govern” regulation. Alarmists or “existentialists” say they have enough evidence. If that’s the case then then so be it, but then the only way to truly make that case is to embark on the legislative process and use democracy to validate those concerns. I just know that we have plenty of past evidence that every technology has come with its alarmists and concerns and somehow optimism prevailed. Why should the pessimists prevail now?

 

 

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18 minutes ago, BeardIP said:

Has anyone read this Executive Order that is in tech, AI or otherwise that has a perspective? Curious to hear inputs. From some analysis I read, this document is the work of aggregating policy inputs from an extended committee of interested constituencies while also navigating the law — literally what is it that can be done to throttle artificial intelligence legally without passing any new laws that might throttle artificial intelligence. There is no clear owner of this document. There is no leading science consensus or direction that we can discern. It is impossible to separate out the document from the process and approach used to “govern” AI innovation. Govern is quoted because it is the word used in the EO. This is so much less a document of what should be done with the potential of technology than it is a document pushing the limits of what can be done legally to slow innovation.

Read this interesting blog post: https://hardcoresoftware.learningbyshipping.com/p/211-regulating-ai-by-executive-order

 

I still need to read this doc - I'm an ML practitioner and specialist in my day job, and 100% of my customers are using it in their solutions. I took a quick glance and was gruntled to see an emphasis on personal privacy and data rights, but don't know if there was anything of substance

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1 hour ago, Hornius Emeritus said:


I don't think it's a stupid take. U.S. oil production just reached an all-time high and looks like it's about to hit 13 million gallons per day. What's amazing is that the rig count is so (relatively) low --- 625.  That's down 143 rigs from last year at this time.

So US oil production is at an all time high and you don't think it's stupid to infer that Biden is holding it back?

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