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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

I don't think he did it for the writeoff. That's the point, he would have just paid himself to pay cohen in the situation you are explaining. 

At the end of the day, Trump is a cheap motherfucker and doesn't want to pay anything to anybody. If he'd just written Stormy a $130K personal check and not tried to run it through the campaign, he would've been free-and-clear on this. If he'd just walked away in November 2020, none of this other shit would've ever come to light and would've simply been dismissed and he could've led the rest of his life in comfort and luxury but he's fucking demented and deranged. And cheap. Did I mention that he's cheap?

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I realize that his base will excuse away the convictions and convince themselves that he’s the real victim. But when are they going to get tired of his constant insipid whining? Every time he opens his mouth he is complaining and crying about being wronged. It’s insufferable. Fucking whiny snowflake. 

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5 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

I was told there would be riots. 

Funny how weak Trump is when he’s actually held accountable.

Yep. I didn’t see anybody standing by to do jackshit. Instead, it was a bunch of crying snowflakes melting down.

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10 minutes ago, immamac said:

I don't think he did it for the writeoff. That's the point, he would have just paid himself to pay cohen in the situation you are explaining. 

Let's say the motive is to save his marriage. Is it easier to hide an affair using your business as a slush fund, or your personal account that your wife probably has access to? 

Even if there was no tax motive or election motive, it is still plausible a businessman would use his business to conceal a personal hush money payment. But, to use the business + lawyer method that was used here, you have to account the payment as a legal expense, even though there is no business purpose. This is a misdemeanor in NY.  

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12 minutes ago, C-Man said:

At the end of the day, Trump is a cheap motherfucker and doesn't want to pay anything to anybody. If he'd just written Stormy a $130K personal check and not tried to run it through the campaign, he would've been free-and-clear on this. If he'd just walked away in November 2020, none of this other shit would've ever come to light and would've simply been dismissed and he could've led the rest of his life in comfort and luxury but he's fucking demented and deranged. And cheap. Did I mention that he's cheap?

All of this.  One simple personal check and it’s done.

Just now, Askew said:

Let's say the motive is to save his marriage. Is it easier to hide an affair using your business as a slush fund, or your personal account that your wife probably has access to? 

Fairly certain that Melania does not have access to his accounts, and has her own account he puts money into.

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31 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

100% agree, but everything I'm reading is that he's very unlikely to go to jail due to his age and lack of prior criminal record.

Is that about right, Surly legal minds?

Sidebar: I'm not sure why his age matters, when he wouldn't be going to Gen Pop anyway.  Besides, the motherfucker is a 34-time felon, and he should be shanked to death in a shower like the rest of us.

That's what his lawyer Blanche said on CNN yesterday.  Of course, a few seconds later, Blanche said it was up to the prosecution to call witnesses who would exonerate his client.

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5 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

All of this.  One simple personal check and it’s done.

Fairly certain that Melania does not have access to his accounts, and has her own account he puts money into.

Fair enough and likely true. I am just stating my general assumption that a spouse usually has less access to business records than personal records. 

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6 minutes ago, Askew said:

Let's say the motive is to save his marriage. Is it easier to hide an affair using your business as a slush fund, or your personal account that your wife probably has access to? 

Even if there was no tax motive or election motive, it is still plausible a businessman would use his business to conceal a personal hush money payment. But, to use the business + lawyer method that was used here, you have to account the payment as a legal expense, even though there is no business purpose. This is a misdemeanor in NY.  

He's cheated on every woman he's ever had a relationship with, right? Why pay this one of hundreds to keep quiet? Because he was running for POTUS. And then he didn't want to use his money. This + That = Big Fucking Problem

 

6 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

All of this.  One simple personal check and it’s done.

Fairly certain that Melania does not have access to his accounts, and has her own account he puts money into.

Not a chance she's on any of his accounts -- probably for this very reason.

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2 minutes ago, Askew said:

Fair enough and likely true. I am just stating my general assumption that a spouse usually has less access to business records than personal records. 

Pretty sure she has ZERO access to any of his accounts/records, business or personal, unless it's a divorce situation. But I'm assuming there's a pre-nup in place so there'd be little need to do any forensic accounting.

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Just now, Red Five said:

It's amazing how backwards everything is for about half the country. Instead of crying "How could this happen in America???", the question should be "How on earth did a career criminal conman get elected president in the first place?". We need to have a serious dialogue in this country about how that did actually happen. Good luck with that though.

I think this is an overreaction. I think a ton of people are using this as smelling salts. It was a jury trial not a bench trial. 

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1 minute ago, C-Man said:

That toothpaste is already out of the tube. They're lost. We must beat him in November and then we can *maybe* start the healing process with those lost MAGA souls.

unfortunately... beat him in November likely just means another 4 years of a Trump/MAGA election cycle.

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2 minutes ago, C-Man said:

That toothpaste is already out of the tube. They're lost. We must beat him in November and then we can *maybe* start the healing process with those lost MAGA souls.

Right, but if Trump loses, it was a rigged election.

And if Trump dies in the meantime, he was assassinated.

Fox News has completely broken over 1/3 of this country, and there's no putting them back together again.

I'm afraid that either Trump wins in November, or that mob is gonna make us all forget about Jan 6th.

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1 minute ago, MonkeyDoughnut said:

unfortunately... beat him in November likely just means another 4 years of a Trump/MAGA election cycle.

No. It's over if they lose again and lose ground in the house or senate. Trump is a loser. The Republican party will self destruct if the lose. 

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 Trump Nation was all prepared to celebrate like the Boogers in Auburn just before this happened.  They never conceived they might LOSE!

Yeah, yeah.  Now the Horns have Bond.   I’m sute he’ll excel on the 40 Acres.  More power to him.

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I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

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6 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think this is an overreaction. I think hope a ton of people are using this as smelling salts. It was a jury trial not a bench trial. 

i hope its an overreaction as i hope its really making some think 

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3 minutes ago, immamac said:

I think this is an overreaction. I think a ton of people are using this as smelling salts. It was a jury trial not a bench trial. 

No way.  There was enough dirt on him even before the 2016 election.

The bankruptcies, filandering, lost on 2 civil tax cases, the stiffed vendors, associations with known drug traffickers.

Trump should have have gone before the first primary if not sooner.

The press got so caught up in all the chaos, that they forgot to actually do their job. That and Barack Obama was black and Hillary was a woman.

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6 minutes ago, pyrohornIII said:

Yeah, but Hillary's crimes were real, Trump's were/are fake news

Right.  They actually believe there was a secret child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor, but Donald Trump bragging about sexual assault, palling around with Epstein, and being accused by like 17 women doesn't raise their eyebrows.

These are the same people who think Fauci is full of shit and vaccines don't work, then when they get Covid they take horse dewormer that they got from their uncle the country vet, because they heard on Facebook from a housewife who did her shitter research that that's the real cure.

This has become a divide of the people who can read, think, and tell a good news source from bullshit against those who can't, and those who can't have 95% of the guns.

Ain't no way this ends well.

 

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Posted (edited)
11 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

Right, but if Trump loses, it was a rigged election.

And if Trump dies in the meantime, he was assassinated.

Fox News has completely broken over 1/3 of this country, and there's no putting them back together again.

I'm afraid that either Trump wins in November, or that mob is gonna make us all forget about Jan 6th.

well they're going to be short a few guys... And you'd have to think more than a few Trumpkins are taking the prosecutions as a shot across the bow.  I think if Jan 6th is tried again, the outcome for the participants will be significantly worse.   In the form a much more robust and belligerent police force.

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/36-months-jan-6-attack-capitol-0#:~:text=Sentencings%3A,sentenced to periods of incarceration.

Arrests made: More than 1,265 defendants have been charged in nearly all 50 states and the District of Columbia. (This includes those charged in both District and Superior Court).

Sentencings:

  • Approximately 749 federal defendants have had their cases adjudicated and received sentences for their criminal activity on Jan. 6. Approximately 467 have been sentenced to periods of incarceration. Approximately 154 defendants have been sentenced to a period of home detention, including approximately 28 who also were sentenced to a period of incarceration.
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1 minute ago, TexArcher said:

Right.  They actually believe there was a secret child sex ring run out of a pizza parlor, but Donald Trump bragging about sexual assault, palling around with Epstein, and being accused by like 17 women doesn't raise their eyebrows.

These are the same people who think Fauci is full of shit and vaccines don't work, then when they get Covid, they take horse dewormer that they got from the uncle the country vet, because they heard on Facebook from a housewife who did her shitter research that that's the real cure.

This has become a divide of the people who can read, think, and tell a good news source from bullshit against those who can't, and those who can't have 95% of the guns.

Ain't no way this ends well.

If you believe this then we are fucked regardless of trump. 

Posted
7 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

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In case you ever wondered what the Hapsburgs would have looked like with smaller chins.

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9 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

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16 minutes ago, C-Man said:

He's cheated on every woman he's ever had a relationship with, right? Why pay this one of hundreds to keep quiet? Because he was running for POTUS. And then he didn't want to use his money. This + That = Big Fucking Problem

 

Not a chance she's on any of his accounts -- probably for this very reason.

Oh yeah im not arguing about the felony charge. I just hate the propaganda line that is being circulated in Trumpworld of 'NDAs are totally legal! His actions were fine and done all the time and this is a witch hunt!' as a way of dismissing the entire care -- the underlying behavior is definitely not legal in NY. It is a misdemeanor.

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12 minutes ago, Bama Llama said:

 Trump Nation was all prepared to celebrate like the Boogers in Auburn just before this happened.  They never conceived they might LOSE!

Yeah, yeah.  Now the Horns have Bond.   I’m sute he’ll excel on the 40 Acres.  More power to him.

Best part was the Auburn D giving Milroe (and the Auburn fans) about 5 minutes on that last play to think about it.

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12 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

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Posted (edited)
Let's say the motive is to save his marriage. Is it easier to hide an affair using your business as a slush fund, or your personal account that your wife probably has access to? 

We aren’t talking about your wife or my wife, we are talking about Donald J Trump’s wife.  The only money things they talk about is how much money she gets to buy clothes and lunch with her girlfriends - and sometimes whatever bump up to her prenup she can finagle to make her stay with him.

Weisselberg probably was in charge of/had possession of his personal checkbooks.  Edited by Gatorubet
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35 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

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Miller looks like a sad worn out dildo that's been discarded on the street of an alley in Boys Town.

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1 hour ago, elfenix said:

i have to wonder if they developed that color for suit jackets because they looked good on black and white sets? color tv sales didn't surpass black and white in the US until 1972. 

That color on a Gibson Les Paul (Jr.) is called "TV Yellow."

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26 minutes ago, RDCanecutter said:

Best part was the Auburn D giving Milroe (and the Auburn fans) about 5 minutes on that last play to think about it.

You speak the truth.  The Auburn defensive "brain trust" was so concerned about MIlroe scrambling, there was only a three man rush.  Even then, only two players made any attempt to pressure Milroe.  Weak!

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47 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I just heard our old buddy Steve on AM radio blathering about "Biden is literally importing sex trafficking rings" and "Biden is a Communist" and the DOJ is a "Communist tool of the fascist left-wing Deep State".  It's like a greatest hits tour when Aerosmith can barely function but they give it the old college try.

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and just by coincidence, Steven Miller and Steven Tyler had the same set of lips.  Though slightly different hairdos.  

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1 hour ago, Askew said:

Fair enough and likely true. I am just stating my general assumption that a spouse usually has less access to business records than personal records. 

Pretty sure Trump views marriage as a business transaction. 



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