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Posted
1 hour ago, aggie08 said:

Honest question that I'm sure you've answered elsewhere: what do you think happens to all of this stuff is he his elected President?

I don't think he will, and I want desperately to share your optimism of "real" (not just financial) punishment coming his way. But what if he wins this shit again?

Actually, to expand on my previous answer, I think we're fucked if the Republican party gains control of ANYTHING at the federal level. Even if, say, Nikki Haley wins. Because they'll just pardon and then hand-deliver to Putin's lapdog everything he wants.

Even if we fine him into the poor house now and throw him in jail, Republican victory means he gets back in business and out of jail.

Maybe that's why I'm not worried about the cases being delayed. It's the election that matters.

And it's the election, above all, that I'm bullish about. I don't WANT Haley to get the nomination; that gives the Republicans a chance. Trump, on the other hand, sinks the GOP. Permanently. They can't get rid of his strench any more. He's bankrupting them financially, morally, and politically.

I'd feel bad about it if my politics hadn't slowly slid left over the past three decades.

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5 minutes ago, Rimbo said:

Actually, to expand on my previous answer, I think we're fucked if the Republican party gains control of ANYTHING at the federal level. Even if, say, Nikki Haley wins. Because they'll just pardon and then hand-deliver to Putin's lapdog everything he wants.

Even if we fine him into the poor house now and throw him in jail, Republican victory means he gets back in business and out of jail.

Maybe that's why I'm not worried about the cases being delayed. It's the election that matters.

And it's the election, above all, that I'm bullish about. I don't WANT Haley to get the nomination; that gives the Republicans a chance. Trump, on the other hand, sinks the GOP. Permanently. They can't get rid of his strench any more. He's bankrupting them financially, morally, and politically.

I'd feel bad about it if my politics hadn't slowly slid left over the past three decades.

He's going to get the nomination but Haley staying in the race and getting 30-45% of the votes along the way will weigh on his ego.  The true weakness of a sociopathic narcissist personality disorder

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Posted
45 minutes ago, TexasEd said:

He's going to get the nomination but Haley staying in the race and getting 30-45% of the votes along the way will weigh on his ego.  The true weakness of a sociopathic narcissist personality disorder

Oh yeah. Haley's going to steal some of the vote away, and her attacks on him weaken him. Nobody's won the presidency with a meaningful challenger in the primary, and she's meaningful enough.

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That has to be an awkward conversation with the Mar-a-Lago concierge for Victor's translator, "Um, Mr. Orban would like to inquire as to the Forint-to-Dollar cash situation is here at the property...Kthanxbai."

Posted
On 3/1/2024 at 2:19 PM, The Dog said:

You left out a few things:

E. Jean Carroll Judgment #1 on appeal and cannot collect because he put up $5.3 million to prevent judgment

E. Jean Carroll Judgment #2 on appeal and CAN collect because he can't afford the bond

NY AG Civil Judgment on appeal and can collect because he can't afford the bond

Business partners in TRUTH are suing him because he's trying to screw them - so now he can't get that windfall until that is settled

Trump PACs are running out of money to pay his legal bills 

SCOTUS ruled that civil cases against Trump as president can proceed and he is not immune from them

Not legal but Trump trying to completely take over GOP to steal the money for his legal bills.

Should we take bets on when Russia/Saudi/Turkey pay his debts?

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Yeah um we got any laws on the books about electing a president who is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt to some of the world's worst people? 

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Yeah um we got any laws on the books about electing a president who is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt to some of the world's worst people? 

I didn't know he owed the NFL owners money as well.  

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Trump Org CFO, Weisselberg, pleading guilty (again) to a crime today. Instead of fraud like last time, it’s perjury from the civil trial case.

hopefully the judge gives him a maximum sentence because obviously 4 months in Rikers Island didn’t teach him to not break the law.

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Posted (edited)
17 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Should we take bets on when Russia/Saudi/Turkey pay his debts?

Well, Saudi handed over $1B to Jared because he's an investment guru, so . . .

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Posted
16 hours ago, Red Five said:

Yeah um we got any laws on the books about electing a president who is hundreds of millions of dollars in debt to some of the world's worst people? 

Too obvious. 

Posted
24 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And previously unneeded. 

True. It's so obviously foul that nobody anticipated it. It's obvious, as you surely know, that he should be barred from office. To me, it's obvious that he should be incarcerated awaiting trial due to the profoundly dangerous crimes he's accused of which we either watched live on TV (Jan. 6), saw videotapes (Trump's chandeliered bathroom storage facility for highly classified documents), or audio tape (coercing a Georgia state official in hopes of altering legal election results).

Obvious counts for nothing in the face of the most odious internal threats to the US. I don't know if anybody's noticed, but our legal system is working a little slow considering what we know. 

Again, I'm not writing anything you don't know. I just remain agog and jabber about it.

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Posted
53 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And previously unneeded. 

Ah well I guess that means we just lay back and enjoy it as trumpco grabs lady justice by the pussy? Trumps entire gambit (and of pretty much every demagogue fascist) is to do things so beyond the pale that it stuns his opposition into inaction. There's more squabbling over the right way to respond than there is actually dealing with the motherfucking goddamn fascists in our government. 

Our lack of imagination combined with the lack of will to punish a member of our oligarch class is how we end up with our mess. The courts have completely been mangled by republican fuckery and our highest court is making overt moves to delay any type of trial until after the election. Where he can of course do the exact same shit as last time because there have BEEN ZERO MEANINGFUL FUCKING CONSEQUENCES FOR HIM!

Motherfucker is about to start getting classified briefings again, it's just stupid at this point. 

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Well previously, a candidate for any significant office would have been raked over the coals for owing debt to foreign nations and similar entanglements and likely distrusted and not elected. 

But here we are on the fact free time line where trump crimes are made up and biden crimes are real. 

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Posted
4 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Ah well I guess that means we just lay back and enjoy it as trumpco grabs lady justice by the pussy? Trumps entire gambit (and of pretty much every demagogue fascist) is to do things so beyond the pale that it stuns his opposition into inaction. There's more squabbling over the right way to respond than there is actually dealing with the motherfucking goddamn fascists in our government. 

Our lack of imagination combined with the lack of will to punish a member of our oligarch class is how we end up with our mess. The courts have completely been mangled by republican fuckery and our highest court is making overt moves to delay any type of trial until after the election. Where he can of course do the exact same shit as last time because there have BEEN ZERO MEANINGFUL FUCKING CONSEQUENCES FOR HIM!

Motherfucker is about to start getting classified briefings again, it's just stupid at this point. 

What everyone is skipping is that societies and cultures have LONG had a script for how to handle people who would upend the system by opting out of/doing an end-around on the rule of law.  It's a very simple script.  It has been written in blood, time and time again.

The rule of law is, ultimately, ill-equipped to handle bad actors with sufficient power who simply say "naaah, don't think I'm gonna buy into that 'follow the law' shit."  That means that the players have opted out of the rule of law, and the solutions it can impose.  That's okay.  That opt-out simply means an opt-in to the alternative system.

Here is how THAT system works:

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That simple, binary choice: if you opt out of the rule of law, then you have necessarily opted in to rule of the gun, is the very fucking thing that many of us (ledge dwellers) have been sounding the alarm about for pushing 10 years now.  That's the entire point.  We're busy arguing whether the penalty should be clipping or unsportsmanlike conduct on the dude who just pulled a gun on the field and shot the opposing RB.  The system of rules and yellow flags and 15 yard penalties is not equipped to handle a LB who pulls a gun and shoots opposing players.  The only system that is equipped to handle that is a system of "meet lawlessness with lawlessness."  Which is, again, why much of our alarmist shouting has been at the fucking GQP voters who are CHOOSING this.  "Please don't choose this path, this is how it fucking ends, every fucking time!" has fallen on deaf ears.  We apparently are intent on fully FA, so we can fully FO.

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

We're busy arguing whether the penalty should be clipping or unsportsmanlike conduct on the dude who just pulled a gun on the field and shot the opposing RB.  The system of rules and yellow flags and 15 yard penalties is not equipped to handle a LB who pulls a gun and shoots opposing players. 

"After the trophy presentation, we're going to be taking a long hard look at what happened on the field today. Ideally, we will have a punishment to dole out approximately four years from now."

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Posted
9 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Well previously, a candidate for any significant office would have been raked over the coals for owing debt to foreign nations and similar entanglements and likely distrusted and not elected. 

But here we are on the fact free time line where trump crimes are made up and biden crimes are real. 

Thanks for the reminder. Seriously.

It's the electorate. There is nothing secret about Trump's character or his vile actions.

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

"After the trophy presentation, we're going to be taking a long hard look at what happened on the field today. Ideally, we will have a punishment to dole out approximately four years from now."

Correct.

That's why the optimum strategy when subjected to violence outside/above the law is to respond with immediate and brutal counter-violence.

We should have mowed down insurrectionists with belt-fed .50 cals, and had law enforcement storm the White House to shut his ass down.  But humans are loathe to think creatively, and to do what is oh-so-distasteful.  Because the truth is that once one side puts you in a position where the only rational response is counter-violence, then everyone has already lost.  All it takes is for one side to shit in the punch bowl, then the punch is turned into shit punch for everyone.

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Posted
21 hours ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

Orban's thugs no doubt hauling heavy suitcases full of gold-plated tungsten "ingots" while a James Bond slap-bass plays sassily in the background.

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Posted

Why aren’t they mad that his debt isn’t to the worst Americans?  That’s not America first.  Then again, they are slaves to an Australian family’s propaganda channel and many have Austrian pistols concealed on their personages, so maybe that whole America first rally cry is farcical anyhow. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Brisketexan said:

What everyone is skipping is that societies and cultures have LONG had a script for how to handle people who would upend the system by opting out of/doing an end-around on the rule of law.  It's a very simple script.  It has been written in blood, time and time again.

The rule of law is, ultimately, ill-equipped to handle bad actors with sufficient power who simply say "naaah, don't think I'm gonna buy into that 'follow the law' shit."  That means that the players have opted out of the rule of law, and the solutions it can impose.  That's okay.  That opt-out simply means an opt-in to the alternative system.

Here is how THAT system works:

mussolini_esso_station_2.jpg?w=1084

That simple, binary choice: if you opt out of the rule of law, then you have necessarily opted in to rule of the gun, is the very fucking thing that many of us (ledge dwellers) have been sounding the alarm about for pushing 10 years now.  That's the entire point.  We're busy arguing whether the penalty should be clipping or unsportsmanlike conduct on the dude who just pulled a gun on the field and shot the opposing RB.  The system of rules and yellow flags and 15 yard penalties is not equipped to handle a LB who pulls a gun and shoots opposing players.  The only system that is equipped to handle that is a system of "meet lawlessness with lawlessness."  Which is, again, why much of our alarmist shouting has been at the fucking GQP voters who are CHOOSING this.  "Please don't choose this path, this is how it fucking ends, every fucking time!" has fallen on deaf ears.  We apparently are intent on fully FA, so we can fully FO.

You and your Esso station fascination.    

 

Hey, that would make a great band name...    Esso Station Fascination.    Can't decide if it should be an emo goth punk band or an edm dark wave rave DJ.

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Posted
21 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

Should we take bets on when Russia/Saudi/Turkey pay his debts?

Elon was in Trump's neck of the woods this weekend.  I still think he's the one that will put up the money.

Posted
18 minutes ago, bolverk said:

“Enjoy the history you have made possible today,” Mr. Troupis wrote in a text message to Mr. Chesebro at 11:04 a.m. that day.

Oops. "You will go down in history as the man responsible for 1/6! Mr. January Sixth is what I bet they'll call you in the history books!" 

Posted
8 minutes ago, Captainant said:

its outragous that we've waited THREE FUCKING YEARS to start shaking the tree on this. What the absolute fuck. I mean we all could plainly see it with our fucking eyes as it was happening, but to have receipts just brings that rage back

It just makes me so angry at Antifa.

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Posted
15 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Oops. "You will go down in history as the man responsible for 1/6! Mr. January Sixth is what I bet they'll call you in the history books!" 

Oh, be wary, be wary!
The Sixth of January,
The Election treason and plot;
I know of no reason
Why the Election treason
Should ever be forgot!

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Posted

Coincidence his dick is 1/6th of an inch?  Or are we still going with the "we're not living in a simulation, there's a God" thing still?  

Posted
3 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

We're busy arguing whether the penalty should be clipping or unsportsmanlike conduct on the dude who just pulled a gun on the field and shot the opposing RB.  The system of rules and yellow flags and 15 yard penalties is not equipped to handle a LB who pulls a gun and shoots opposing players.  The only system that is equipped to handle that is a system of "meet lawlessness with lawlessness."

We obviously need good refs with guns.

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Posted

The simulation: “Hey, let’s give this guy the surname ‘Cheesy brother!’ Oh, wait, too much? Yeah let’s dial that back a bit”

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Posted
On 2/29/2024 at 2:39 PM, BehoId, The Underminer! said:

it's fierce!

reporting on legal stuff is so exciting.

As I read that I could smell the Sex Panther….

Posted
40 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Coincidence his dick is 1/6th of an inch?  Or are we still going with the "we're not living in a simulation, there's a God" thing still?  

If we are living in a simulation, wouldn’t there necessarily be a god- the developer?

Posted
1 hour ago, Captainant said:

its outragous that we've waited THREE FUCKING YEARS to start shaking the tree on this. What the absolute fuck. I mean we all could plainly see it with our fucking eyes as it was happening, but to have receipts just brings that rage back

“Maybe they were talking about a different election.”  - Magats

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Posted
5 minutes ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If we are living in a simulation, wouldn’t there necessarily be a god- the developer?

Well, of course.  We used to call it "Yahweh", but the fucking "Y" button on his keyboard keeps getting stuck.  

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Posted
3 minutes ago, YGIFS said:

Well, of course.  We used to call it "Yahweh", but the fucking "Y" button on his keyboard keeps getting stuck.  

Yahweh....Yesway....potato, potahto....

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https://www.wdsu.com/article/trump-cfo-allen-weisselberg-surrenders-on-criminal-charges/60075185

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NEW YORK —

Allen Weisselberg, the former chief financial officer of Donald Trump's company, pleaded guilty Monday to lying under oath during his testimony in the ex-president's New York civil fraud case. His plea deal will send him back to jail but does not require that he testify at Trump's hush-money criminal trial.

“ That poor Mr. Trump did not know he had a dishonest accountant.” - Trump fans, probably.

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Posted
1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

WTF?

What kind of prosecutor offers a deal with no return?

I would argue there is a built-in return. He has little use as a witness because he is a perjuror and a criminal.   OTOH, anything he said previously - or any witness in Trump‘s defense who mentions Weisellberg’s favorable to Trump testimony - gets to be crossed on his perjury guilty plea. 

I could be wrong, but I personally think his worth as a witness in front of a jury is pretty damn low right now.

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Posted
6 hours ago, Chewbacca said:

Elon was in Trump's neck of the woods this weekend.  I still think he's the one that will put up the money.

If he thinks Trump has any real chance he will definitely be that guy.  Then Trump will pay him back in spades if he's elected.  The dumbest timeline keeps humming along...

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, Pato del Muerto said:

If we are living in a simulation, wouldn’t there necessarily be a god- the developer?

Here we go, one of my favorite rabbit holes to go down on podcasts.  Now there's plenty of big brained people out there believing the big bang was one of many big bangs and there's multiverse/hologram theories etc.  I kind of agree that something had to start this because what is 'nothing'?  What started even the first big bang?  If this is a sim and/or if there's some all powerful being we are likely uber fucked...why would that being care about us, other than just being entertained.  I'll stop now...Sorry, got me started on this path and I can type out long cat responses like YGIFS all night long. 

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