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1 minute ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It was taken last week, when Kamala as a candidate was merely an idea and not reality.  Bandwagon/vibes effect is real and not shown in these numbers.

It’s going to take a week plus before polling reflects reality. Everyone trying to drop some snap polls 1 or 2 days later 

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8 hours ago, bolverk said:

Continued opposition to a ceasefire at this point would go against official US foreign policy. If he still holds the same stance today that he did in December, that will be a problem. He is on record as favoring a two-state solution, so that's good and in line with the policy stance we've officially held for at least 30 years.

One thing to consider is that Kamala is married to a Jewish husband. If she were to also choose a Jewish running mate, it could provide her with the cover she would need as president to make some hard calls. Of course, that hypothetical wouldn't help her garner votes from a needed voting bloc in Michigan to get elected before she could even cross that bridge.

Thanks for doing the digging.

I've looked at some of y'all's discussion. I don't see the religion of one's running mate or husband doing anything to sway American voter opinion of whatever she may decide. Y'all are smart guys and you seem to be assuming the electorate will give more than cursory consideration, when they give any at all, to substantive presidential decisions.

They don't. They won't. 

The main factor in any choice for VP should be simply can you find much to hate about him? It likely has to be a "him" because a lot of shitheads in this country can find something to hate about most women. This includes woman doing some of the hating. 

There will be no debate of issues that will sway anybody very much. Find somebody who can survive and even fight well during the hateful shitstorm about to come. Y'all know the candidates way better than I do, but don't overthink it or even think it much at all.

Read the two sentence summary and make your choice.

It's Idiot World, Jake.

Posted
1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

* poll of men standing around at Hoffpauir’s in Lampasas at 230pm on a Monday afternoon. 

 

7 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Polls have become like everything else -- meaningless through the deluge of bullshit.

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11 minutes ago, Snake Diggity said:

This is 99% of it.  Blacks won’t turn out nearly as much for a ticket with a gay white dude on it. 

This isn’t true.

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Posted
8 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

Christ, even this one is a doozy. 

Trump pulled 6% of the black vote in his WIN in 2016. He's not going to more than triple that number against a black woman.

 

 

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JD Vance is the perfect antidote to women looking at voting for Trump. He reminds women exactly what Republican men think of them. I love that Trump is stuck with him. 

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1 minute ago, The Dog said:

Christ, even this one is a doozy. 

Trump pulled 6% of the black vote in his WIN in 2016. He's not going to more than triple that number against a black woman.

 

 

It was like 12% in 2020. I don’t see it either. Maybe 15%

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I'm going to generalize that any woman who votes for trump is either in an abusive relationship or a window licker.
Nobody hates their own like a person that believes they can reap some perceived benefit from it.
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14 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:

It was taken last week, when Kamala as a candidate was merely an idea and not reality.  Bandwagon/vibes effect is real and not shown in these numbers.

Nah I think it's mislabeled. The overall in that poll is Trump +2 and then the crosstabs have him also winning Independents by 14. There's no way he's winning women and independents by those margins and only up by 2 in the overall.

MAGA is running with it though.

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10 minutes ago, mdmost said:

JD Vance is the perfect antidote to women looking at voting for Trump. He reminds women exactly what Republican men think of them. I love that Trump is stuck with him. 

 

For now.  Shit, I can easily see Trump pulling that ripcord as late as September if he thinks it would help.

 

 

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Posted
2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Kelly now the betting favorite here by a large margin.

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Fixing to find out how little the right actually cares about the troops. 

Again.

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Posted

Kelly would probably make the best president out of all the possibles but I refuse to give a shit about VP this election.

Gotta hand it to Arizona and their high flying senators… Goldwater, McCain, now Kelly

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16 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

Small quibble....I hope there IS a Jan 6 II, Insurrection Boogaloo.  Because yeah....this time, we're ready.  Hide the machine gun emplacements.  Wait until the treasonous combatants walk into your interlocking fields of fire.  Then.....finish them.  Send a final, definitive message about how America deals with violent traitors actively attacking the country.  Be done with it.

I have an ancestor who played a major part in Shays’s Rebellion.  it did not work out too well for most of them.   It appears that sometimes you have to accept the authority of the government.

 

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21 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

White women (and I am one) should be fucking shamed if they vote for Trump. To be absolutely clear though, I think educated white women are largely in the bag.  It is the uneducated that most likely swing Trump. It is shocking how people vote against their interests. Then again, they are the common clay of the new west.

I live in the middle of a pretty damned red area in DFW.  The white women around here are confirmed devotees of:

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Just now, Gatorubet said:

I have an ancestor who played a major part in Shays’s Rebellion.  it did not work out too well for most of them.   It appears that sometimes you have to accept the authority of the government.

 

Lol I have an ancestor that was a North Carolina Regulator Leader… crown put a 1000 acre bounty on his head and they burned his house down after the battle of Alamance. 

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Just now, Hugo Stiglitz said:

Lol I have an ancestor that was a North Carolina Regulator Leader… crown put a 1000 acre bounty on his head and they burned his house down after the battle of Alamance. 

Was he married to a time traveller from 1940's England? 

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Posted
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

There’s no world in which young voters are voting for Trump by 20 points. zero, none, zilch, nada 

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1 hour ago, squib said:

Only a Lad

 

Always loved this song--and the lyrics fit so well here. 

He didn't want to learn things---he liked to burn things. 

I'm rooting for a youth movement (not pictured above) so I'll go with Grey Matter

"They say you're stupid
That you're too young to vote"

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Posted (edited)
14 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Was he married to a time traveller from 1940's England? 

Oh you watch Outlander… That show did not portray my ancestor by name but Murtah fit the description of him (except Irish, not Scottish) and played it well. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

* poll of men standing around at Hoffpauir’s in Lampasas at 230pm on a Monday afternoon. 

Liberty students/ Kirk phone book 

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Posted (edited)
39 minutes ago, Goredho said:

 

Polls have become like everything else -- meaningless through the deluge of bullshit.

Numbers work out, it's just that Trump must be up with voters 30-34 around 113% to -13%.

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Posted
1 hour ago, NorthLoop said:

That's the saddest thing that's ever been posted on this website. 

I now have my doubts that the deconstructed burger at Doral is in fact "delicious".

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If it's Kelly, I hope they've got some polling (that's much more reliable than presidential polling these days) indicating that people still go completely nuts for astronauts, because otherwise he makes zero sense and he'd have to resign his senate seat to campaign.  The astronaut on the ticket seems like it would make a lot more sense in the 70s or 80s than today.

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2 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

If it's Kelly, I hope they've got some polling (that's much more reliable than presidential polling these days) indicating that people still go completely nuts for astronauts, because otherwise he makes zero sense and he'd have to resign his senate seat to campaign.  The astronaut on the ticket seems like it would make a lot more sense in the 70s or 80s than today.

He does not have to resign to campaign.

Kelly is allowed to maintain his seat as a U.S. senator during a run for vice president. While Arizona is one of the few states with a resign-to-run-law, which places limitations on state elected officials from running while serving in office, Arizona Legislative Council Executive Director Steven Primack told Arizona Luminaria that Kelly holds a federal office and isn’t subject to these statutes.

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2 minutes ago, Js1 said:

He does not have to resign to campaign.

Kelly is allowed to maintain his seat as a U.S. senator during a run for vice president. While Arizona is one of the few states with a resign-to-run-law, which places limitations on state elected officials from running while serving in office, Arizona Legislative Council Executive Director Steven Primack told Arizona Luminaria that Kelly holds a federal office and isn’t subject to these statutes.

Thanks. Still doesn't seem like one of the best options to me. He's got no executive experience and no real relevant experience at all except for his very young senate career. If he's the pick, it better be because there's some new summer pop album all about astronauts or some shit. 

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