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12 hours ago, Captain Ron said:

 

 

 

This is the clip from Maher

 

 

This is like the hat trick of shit I hate - Bill Maher clips, Pier Morgan clips and linking to rat-fucking Twitter.

I enjoyed Piers claiming multiple times that Elon is an engineer. Idiots.

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2 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

I enjoyed Piers claiming multiple times that Elon is an engineer. Idiots.

I didn't watch it, and won't, but that may be parsing it a bit fine for the layman.  Musk has a degree in physics.  Physics is not engineering, I get it, but they're pretty related.  I've worked with plenty of people with physics degrees who operated in an engineering role and did great.

I mean, let's hate Musk for the right reasons.

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15 hours ago, jimmyjazz said:

I didn't watch it, and won't, but that may be parsing it a bit fine for the layman.  Musk has a degree in physics.  Physics is not engineering, I get it, but they're pretty related.  I've worked with plenty of people with physics degrees who operated in an engineering role and did great.

I mean, let's hate Musk for the right reasons.

The dumbest guy in my fraternity got a degree in physics.

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Heh, Elmo and SpaceX lost in the trespassing suit from the Cards Against Humanity folks

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/cards-against-humanity-gets-settlement-from-spacex-plans-pack-of-elon-musk-cards/

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A year after suing SpaceX for “invading” a plot of land on the US/Mexico border, Cards Against Humanity says it has obtained a settlement and will provide supporters with a new pack of cards about Elon Musk.

The party-game company bought the land in 2017 in an attempt to stymie President Trump’s wall-building project, but alleged that SpaceX illegally took over the land and filled it with construction equipment and materials. A September 2024 lawsuit filed against SpaceX in Cameron County District Court in Texas sought up to $15 million to cover the cost of restoring the property and other damages.

Cards Against Humanity, which bought the property with donations from supporters, told Ars today that “we’ve been in negotiations with SpaceX for much of the last year. We held out for the best settlement we could get—almost until the trial was supposed to start—and unfortunately part of that negotiation was that we’re not allowed to discuss specific settlement terms. They did admit to trespassing during the discovery phase, which was very validating.”

A court document shows that SpaceX admitted it did not ask for or receive permission to use the property. SpaceX admitted that its “contractors cleared the lot and put down gravel,” parked vehicles on the property, and stored construction materials. An Associated Press article yesterday said that “Texas court records show a settlement was reached in the case last month, just weeks before a jury trial was scheduled to begin on Nov. 3.”

The game company said a victory at trial wouldn’t have resulted in a better outcome. “A trial would have cost more than what we were likely to win from SpaceX,” the company’s statement to Ars said. “Under Texas law, even if we had won at trial (and we would have, given their admission to trespassing), we likely wouldn’t have been able to recoup our legal fees. And SpaceX certainly seemed ready to dramatically outspend us on lawyers.”

That'll be a fun set to pick up

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Posted
2 hours ago, Captainant said:

Heh, Elmo and SpaceX lost in the trespassing suit from the Cards Against Humanity folks

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/10/cards-against-humanity-gets-settlement-from-spacex-plans-pack-of-elon-musk-cards/

That'll be a fun set to pick up

And we wonder why the oligarchs can get away with everything.  Well, actually we don't wonder.

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Posted
21 hours ago, tbone_ said:

That’s a great band name

For a Psychobilly band and yes I would drink beer at a bar that had a band playing with that name. 

Posted
50 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:


We need to make being a nerd uncool again. 

 

That's not nerd shit, that's dork shit. Big difference. In reality, they just sucked down all of Wikipedia and gave it a little Grok spin. 

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34 minutes ago, F250 said:

That's not nerd shit, that's dork shit. Big difference. In reality, they just sucked down all of Wikipedia and gave it a little Grok spin. 

Conceded, it is in fact dork shit and not nerd shit.  Even worse, this is insect person mentality. 
 

Has there ever been a worse rebrand than the Bay Area from counter-culture capital to striver bug-man capital. The one symbolized free coolness you aspired to attain; the second soul-crushing lameness you cannot escape. 

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7 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Conceded, it is in fact dork shit and not nerd shit.  Even worse, this is insect person mentality. 
 

Has there ever been a worse rebrand than the Bay Area from counter-culture capital to striver bug-man capital. The one symbolized free coolness you aspired to attain; the second soul-crushing lameness you cannot escape. 

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Yeah, these people are dorks. 

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On 10/21/2025 at 4:17 PM, jimmyjazz said:

I didn't watch it, and won't, but that may be parsing it a bit fine for the layman.  Musk has a degree in physics.  Physics is not engineering, I get it, but they're pretty related.  I've worked with plenty of people with physics degrees who operated in an engineering role and did great.

I mean, let's hate Musk for the right reasons.

To be fair, though, his degree is a BA, which is pretty lame in a hard science field.

But yeah, I have seen physics and even applied math people do well as engineers.  But I think a whole ton of that has to do with the courses they took.

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Can't edit, but his wiki bio says he was accepted to a materials science program at Stanford.  Weirdly, their webpage says 

Applicants who hold a previous degree in a subject other than Materials Science and Engineering are welcome to apply. We welcome applications from students from a wide range of academic backgrounds. 

That's so weird to me.  Do they make you take remedial undergrad courses in materials?  Do those count toward the degree?

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Posted (edited)
On 10/21/2025 at 10:06 AM, HenryJames said:

Me losing an argument in junior high.

Eh. That argument is probably > 50% a winner in jr high

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Depending on your bubble score
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On 10/21/2025 at 4:17 PM, jimmyjazz said:

I didn't watch it, and won't, but that may be parsing it a bit fine for the layman.  Musk has a degree in physics.  Physics is not engineering, I get it, but they're pretty related.  I've worked with plenty of people with physics degrees who operated in an engineering role and did great.

I mean, let's hate Musk for the right reasons.

The best group manager I ever had as a software engineer had a doctorate in experimental elementary particle physics from U of Chicago.

It also helped that she wasn't a Nazi.

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Posted (edited)
33 minutes ago, HenryJames said:

Why are you like this?

Because you asked, I have been intrigued about the application of the title "engineer" to those without formal qualifications for quite some time.  Musk is far and away not the only one.

And many "engineers" lack any kind of degree at all.

Engineering didn't arise as an academic discipline until the mid-late 19th century.  Originally, it was taught in European military academies for those trained to provide infrastructure support to other units, ie "military engineering" and was just a part of military officer training, not a degree per se.  French universities, or a French university, adapted a curriculum for non-military students and called it "civil engineering."  And the field has become increasingly specialized ever since.

I used to kind of resent the term "software engineer," but have to admit that it fits.

I will say this about "atypical engineers," and that is that just being some wild-ass idea guy like Elmo is not engineering, period, paragraph.  To legitimately claim the title, I think you have to be involved in the nitty-gritty actual solution of problems.

So there you go.  🤪🤪😬😬

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Engineering is just problem solving with applied scientific knowledge, so it applies to a vast umbrella of disciplines. Your "qualifications" don't actually make a shit, all that matters is if you can do the work. Some of the smartest engineers I've ever met don't have a degree at all, they're just super autistic about their chosen area of expertise.

I don't do software anymore, but it always made me chuckle when people sneered at the "software engineer" moniker, because it is absolutely apt. Anyone who has built or even done a fair amount of work with a codebase of any significant size will tell you just how difficult and challenging it can be.

I work as a systems engineer nowadays and most of it might as well be tee ball in comparison to some of the shit I had to work on as a software engineer. There are certainly challenges, maddening ones even, but it feels like a lazy river in comparison and I'm not working 60-80 hour weeks doing it.

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