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27 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

Despite its presence in the Model Rules (and preambles are typically regarded as surplusage anyway), it's still a near- or completely meaningless phrase, aspirational rather than enforceable.  See, e.g. "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State" and scads of other gobbledygook in legal prose from the Constitution on down.

 

Perhaps that’s why it looks like an ethical crisis from the outside. When the preamble of the rules say “it is a lawyer’s duty to _____” most people would think  that fulfillment of the duty is the purpose of the rules, and the subsequent language is the descriptive text of some of the ways one would fulfill that duty, but not limited to those things. 
It seems odd to dismiss it as gobbledygook.

And of course the preamble to the second amendment isn’t gobbledygook either to anyone even remotely familiar with the context and circumstances of the drafting of the bill of rights, but lawyers gonna lawyer. 

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On 5/10/2025 at 2:31 PM, Superhero said:

Is MAGA presence so high in the DOJ, FBI, ICE and many other agencies that they are just going along with the surveillance, arrests and deportation?

Is there a point when officers just say fuck you, I'm not going to arrest a protestor or judge or whatever?

In the history of human civilization have you ever heard of a police force that tells an incoming authoritarian to fuck off? That their authoritarianism isn't going to fly and that steps up to stop it?

If so, let me know because I don't know of that ever happening. The people that do that kind of policing job are almost exclusively wannabe authoritarian shitheads themselves. 

This type of illegal fascist shit is what approximately 90% of them want to do. The other 10% just go along with it because they're too scared to defy the 90%.

13 hours ago, Pancho said:

 

The sooner Democrat leaders acknowledge and accept we are currently in a civil war, and they actually take steps to start fighting that war, the better the chance we defeat fascism. You can't win a war against fascism without leadership even acknowledging they're in one.

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6 minutes ago, PenelopeWitherspoon said:

Donald Trump is one of the dumbest people on the planet. It's embarassing.

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

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6 minutes ago, Slacks said:

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

Yeah, sadly this.  He’s fluent in stupid.  He only caters to stupid and those who benefit from stupid’s vote. 

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6 minutes ago, Slacks said:

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

Again, I believe it’s not so much his genius as it is the willingness of millions to accept being intentionally being lied to. It’s astonishing.

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6 minutes ago, Satchel said:

Again, I believe it’s not so much his genius as it is the willingness of millions to accept being intentionally being lied to. It’s astonishing.

He harnessed it and has taken over the government... Instead of a coup, America overwhelmingly agreed to it. 

He did not bumblefuck his way to this. He has always had the skill of self promotion. 

I mean... He rode Barack Obama's birth certificate into politics. (Which, BTW, he clearly has had access to, and we haven't heard a word about because it no longer matters.)

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43 minutes ago, Slacks said:

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

Stupid people talk in simple easy messages because that’s how they think. 

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5 hours ago, Slacks said:

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

Wait, you’re defending the guy who suggested we should drink disinfectant to fight the coronavirus as not being dumb? It doesn’t take intelligence to be a meathead bullshitter  

If you don’t know he’s a moron, it means you’re a moron. Don’t be a moron. 

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7 hours ago, Slacks said:

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

You are completely wrong. The guy is just an idiot. So he talks like an idiot, and it just so happens there's a lot of idiots. 

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3 hours ago, Willfully Horn said:

This video was worth the time it took to watch.

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I saw that yesterday and then learned it was from May of 2024.  I despise these accounts reposting old shit as new.  It was BTC(cohen) account that I saw it 

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8 hours ago, Slacks said:

He's not. 

He knows he is catering to people who are intentionally lazy with regard to information, and therefore dumb. 

Look at what he wrote... (paraphrasing) 

"The defense department is getting a gift airplane for free. Democrats would rather pay top dollar for it. How stupid is that?" 

Easy message. 

"They're eating the pets." = "Savages" 

Easy message. 

"We are going to pay less for drugs and Mexico is gonna pay for it."

Easy message. 

This is the thing he's done his whole life. He's pretty fn genius with word delivery. It's probably just a natural trait that manifests as talent, but that's what genius is. 

Underestimating the effects of his word salads is what got us here. 

He's a savant at the above.

Generally speaking, he's a moron.

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15 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

He's a savant at the above.

Generally speaking, he's a moron.

I agree. I mean when you think about it, even serial killers tend to be good at one thing.

If DJT actually does have a narcissistic personality disorder, then his self-centeredness,  lack of empathy,  and boundaries leads to a facade wherein people who view him from their own lens ascribe traits to him that may or may not be in his possession. @ChiTownDoc referring to the way he communicates as a 'skill' is also apt.

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22 minutes ago, Mrs Whiggins said:

I agree. I mean when you think about it, even serial killers tend to be good at one thing.

If DJT actually does have a narcissistic personality disorder, then his self-centeredness,  lack of empathy,  and boundaries leads to a facade wherein people who view him from their own lens ascribe traits to him that may or may not be in his possession. @ChiTownDoc referring to the way he communicates as a 'skill' is also apt.

Oh he definitely has malignant narcissistic personality disorder.  Textbook case.  

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In plain sight:

 
Fun fact: AG Pam Bondi, who approved Trump’s $400M jet gift from Qatar, was a paid lobbyist for Qatar, earning $115K a month.

Negotiating tip: If they will go $115k a month, they will go $120k.
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14 minutes ago, ChiTownDoc said:

Oh he definitely has malignant narcissistic personality disorder.  Textbook case.  

I wish NPD was more understood and taken seriously. And that social media has turned it into an epidemic. 

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Trump's gift makes no sense except as a way for a foreign government to buy influence over him.

A summary:

The Air Force already is under contract to buy two 747-8 aircraft.  They were built around 2015 and have been undergoing modifications to make the Air Force One's since 2020.  This process is evidently taking a long time because everyone who works on the modification has to have a high security clearance.  The new delivery date is one plane in 2027, one n 2028, which admittedly is a long time to modify a plane.

The new plane would either have to be modified to met the AF1 spec or not.  This modifications, as we have learned, take a long time.  Trump can't just step on the plane and call it AF1.  Or ... he can and just ignore the security requirements of the nation.

So either he takes the gift and flys in a luxurious new plane that was literally designed for royalty, but gives up everything AF1 is supposed to do other than basic transportation.  Or he sends the plane in for retrofitting and he'll get it back around 2032.

Or he takes the gift, updates the livery to his personal preference, flys in it a few times to make it "his" AF1 like a game-worn jersey, then parks it until he is out of office and now he has a free jet fit for a king.

Somehow merely having a personal yet aging 747 that will go wherever in the world you want to go, when you want to go, followed by cargo planes with your limo and helicopters, fully stocked with the McDonald's menu, is not enough for the man.

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Also, Hamilton warned us about this, but he used big words that are hard for us to understand:

An avaricious man, who might happen to fill the office, looking forward to a time when he must at all events yield up the emoluments he enjoyed, would feel a propensity, not easy to be resisted by such a man, to make the best use of the opportunity he enjoyed while it lasted, and might not scruple to have recourse to the most corrupt expedients to make the harvest as abundant as it was transitory; though the same man, probably, with a different prospect before him, might content himself with the regular perquisites of his situation, and might even be unwilling to risk the consequences of an abuse of his opportunities. His avarice might be a guard upon his avarice. Add to this that the same man might be vain or ambitious, as well as avaricious. And if he could expect to prolong his honors by his good conduct, he might hesitate to sacrifice his appetite for them to his appetite for gain. But with the prospect before him of approaching an inevitable annihilation, his avarice would be likely to get the victory over his caution, his vanity, or his ambition.

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4 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

Trump's gift makes no sense except as a way for a foreign government to buy influence over him.

A summary:

The Air Force already is under contract to buy two 747-8 aircraft.  They were built around 2015 and have been undergoing modifications to make the Air Force One's since 2020.  This process is evidently taking a long time because everyone who works on the modification has to have a high security clearance.  The new delivery date is one plane in 2027, one n 2028, which admittedly is a long time to modify a plane.

The new plane would either have to be modified to met the AF1 spec or not.  This modifications, as we have learned, take a long time.  Trump can't just step on the plane and call it AF1.  Or ... he can and just ignore the security requirements of the nation.

So either he takes the gift and flys in a luxurious new plane that was literally designed for royalty, but gives up everything AF1 is supposed to do other than basic transportation.  Or he sends the plane in for retrofitting and he'll get it back around 2032.

Or he takes the gift, updates the livery to his personal preference, flys in it a few times to make it "his" AF1 like a game-worn jersey, then parks it until he is out of office and now he has a free jet fit for a king.

Somehow merely having a personal yet aging 747 that will go wherever in the world you want to go, when you want to go, followed by cargo planes with your limo and helicopters, fully stocked with the McDonald's menu, is not enough for the man.


You’re over thinking it.

Step 1: He complained. Which gives him the microscopically thin veneer of cover needed when the corruption is this ridiculous.

Step 2: Get a Billion dollar gift from X country yet calling it for ‘the presidency’

Step 3: Have American public pay for retrofits he wants by calling it AF1.

Step 4: Don’t actually use it while president 

Step 5: Take full ownership after you leave.

It’s no harder to understand than just overt corruption with shitty cover story and putting the dumb masses on the hook to upgrade it.

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7 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

Also, Hamilton warned us about this, but he used big words that are hard for us to understand:

An avaricious man, who might happen to fill the office, looking forward to a time when he must at all events yield up the emoluments he enjoyed, would feel a propensity, not easy to be resisted by such a man, to make the best use of the opportunity he enjoyed while it lasted, and might not scruple to have recourse to the most corrupt expedients to make the harvest as abundant as it was transitory; though the same man, probably, with a different prospect before him, might content himself with the regular perquisites of his situation, and might even be unwilling to risk the consequences of an abuse of his opportunities. His avarice might be a guard upon his avarice. Add to this that the same man might be vain or ambitious, as well as avaricious. And if he could expect to prolong his honors by his good conduct, he might hesitate to sacrifice his appetite for them to his appetite for gain. But with the prospect before him of approaching an inevitable annihilation, his avarice would be likely to get the victory over his caution, his vanity, or his ambition.

lord of the rings golem GIF

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44 minutes ago, Texas Jeff said:

Trump's gift makes no sense except as a way for a foreign government to buy influence over him.

A summary:

The Air Force already is under contract to buy two 747-8 aircraft.  They were built around 2015 and have been undergoing modifications to make the Air Force One's since 2020.  This process is evidently taking a long time because everyone who works on the modification has to have a high security clearance.  The new delivery date is one plane in 2027, one n 2028, which admittedly is a long time to modify a plane.

The new plane would either have to be modified to met the AF1 spec or not.  This modifications, as we have learned, take a long time.  Trump can't just step on the plane and call it AF1.  Or ... he can and just ignore the security requirements of the nation.

So either he takes the gift and flys in a luxurious new plane that was literally designed for royalty, but gives up everything AF1 is supposed to do other than basic transportation.  Or he sends the plane in for retrofitting and he'll get it back around 2032.

Or he takes the gift, updates the livery to his personal preference, flys in it a few times to make it "his" AF1 like a game-worn jersey, then parks it until he is out of office and now he has a free jet fit for a king.

Somehow merely having a personal yet aging 747 that will go wherever in the world you want to go, when you want to go, followed by cargo planes with your limo and helicopters, fully stocked with the McDonald's menu, is not enough for the man.

Well, any plane the president on does become AF1. The current VC-25 which has things like nuclear-shielded wiring and EW countermeasures is not really a 747 in any sense of the word, it’s a 747-shaped flying command center. 
 

They should never even try to have a meeting on this plane as there is no way to debug it. 
 

Modifying this jet to meet VC-25 standards would likely cost more than the 747’s value even with the royal family mods. I think your gut on this on is correct, he plans to take delivery and use it a few times stateside and then have his own 747 for life. His library foundation is going to be an incredible grift machine. 

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10 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Are we really about to have a debate on whether it’s ok for a US president to accept a $400 million dollar gift from a foreign country?

But it's free. What are you, some CROOKED DEMOCRAT?

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I don't understand why Boeing hasn't been able to deliver the 2 new 747s but is there actually a problem with the current two planes?

It's unreal that we're allowing a country to give our President a gift worth $400m. And on top of that, the US taxpayer is going to pay to modify and then hand it over to Trump when he's out of office. 

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

I don't understand why Boeing hasn't been able to deliver the 2 new 747s but is there actually a problem with the current two planes?

It's unreal that we're allowing a country to give our President a gift worth $400m. And on top of that, the US taxpayer is going to pay to modify and then hand it over to Trump when he's out of office. 

Our only hope is that once they finally deliver, the new 747s are so ass cheeks because of all the corners Boeing cuts now in the name of profit that they explode in mid air and take his ass out.

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Yeah, I mean, everyone hates Big Pharma and their price-gouging, so this is actually something that will have universal appeal.  And of course that's why he's doing it now as his approval rating is shitting on itself.

But this will make 100% of Republicans hypocrites when they back him on this.  This is the opposite of small federal government and a free market.

Yet something tells me they'll have no problem contradicting everything they've ever said before now.  Dance, you profiteering little puppets.

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Just now, Brian Fantana said:

Our only hope is that once they finally deliver, the new 747s are so ass cheeks because of all the corners Boeing cuts now in the name of profit that they explode in mid air and take his ass out.

I would assume that Trump will never walk onto the two new planes. He will prioritize the retrofit of his new 747. The next President will most likely have to use the old 747s while Boeing goes back to working on the new ones. It's getting complicated that there are five 747s in the mix now: 2 current, 2 in build status and the Qatari one.



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