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19 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Good stuff, but I really wish commentators would stop bringing up the Nazi salute, let alone opening with it, when criticizing Musk. 

You immediately lose the people you're trying to convince with the salute stuff. Yeah, he probably did it on purpose, but that's a culture war moment that is triggering for some.  Stick to the mountain of Elon bullshit that is 100% tangible. 

That's not 100% tangible? 

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1 hour ago, troph said:

SIAP

scott Galloway evicerating  Trump and musk all over… 

 

 

Not sure why they had to bleep Nazi in that second one, but right on.

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17 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

 

Watch as Trump settles this bullshit to funnel government money into this militia group to turn them into his own SS

That suit should be DOA.  They were convicted.

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1 minute ago, immamac said:

That's not 100% tangible? 

Many don't believe he gave a Nazi salute. Even if he did, it was just to troll, and everyone took the bait. Musk has done more meaningful damage to Americans than culture war bullshit.

There's a discipline needed to beat these fuckers and convince the convincible, and we don't have it. 

 

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It’s going to be classic when there is a bailout of the Trump coin after it totally collapses. But the terms will be “eligible if investment was over 1 million dollars”.

Privatize gains and socialize losses has been the republican playbook for decades.

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Many don't believe he gave a Nazi salute. Even if he did, it was just to troll, and everyone took the bait. Musk has done more meaningful damage to Americans than culture war bullshit.

There's a discipline needed to beat these fuckers and convince the convincible, and we don't have it. 

 

I want to agree with you and at the same time throttle you.  Not your fault. 

I was on vacation with the in laws right after that occurred and I brought it up to FIL.  IMMEDIATELY, he says it was "taken out of context".  And he's not even as big of a magat as the MIL.  But they are hard wired to reflexively claim FAKE NEWS! about anything that threatens their "team".  

There's also a subsection of people who aren't paying attention and when you bring up the most horrifying, ridiculous shit that ACTUALLY OCCURS, they are quick to hand wave it away because they just don't want to believe it could be that bad.

All that said, the idea that we can't use the truth and facts to educate people breaks my brain.  You're probably right.  I don't have it.  Because fuck these people.  I would rather go down with honor than capitulate to the dumbest among us.

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28 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

That suit should be DOA.  They were convicted.

Unless the gov’t wants to pay them. 

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21 hours ago, Red Five said:

In fact, let's play this out. Let's say the dems do investigate. And let's say that we all learn with 100% confidence that Trump made many trips to the island, and had sex numerous times with underage girls. Do you know what would happen next? Everyone in his orbit would shift to a pro-pedo stance. Then you'd see arguments on cable tv over whether we should all be pro or anti pedo. Assholes like Scott Jennings on CNN would suddenly be openly talking about how ridiculous our age of consent laws are, etc. 

I fear this is likely correct. Hard to believe some of y’all still haven’t figured out that there are no red lines for this cult.

Trump’s supporters have been following him out to sea for a decade now, excusing every transgression and whip-sawing on their own cherished principles over and over again in the process. They’re hopelessly far from solid ground now. The only fixed point in their ocean of moral chaos is Trump. For them, good and evil are defined at every moment only by his whim. Because there is literally nothing left to grab hold of.

The Bible? Pshaw. They’ve rewritten that shit in their heads 10 times over at this point.

The Constitution? Don’t get me started on MAGA’s devotion to the contextual opportunist approach to interpreting that once-sacred document.

Cherished 20th Century American values? Nope. These fuckers learned history through an incoherent patchwork of utopian tall tales fed to them by conmen. 

Trump is their only moral compass. 

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14 hours ago, Bullneck said:

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I missed this. I went to youtube to look it up, and there it is.

https://youtu.be/noJgJb-prDU

I reach for new words and old ones. I started with boorish, but the definition included "rough." Trump is an uncalloused creampuff, so that won't quite do.

I may have stumbled upon the most apt word choice of my life. He's a clod.

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It really stands out when he is in the presence of national leaders from just about anywhere else. It seems like a ventriloquist act where the foreign leader is the straight man to a dunce puppet.

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Just now, DDD Dad said:

Unless the gov’t wants to pay them. 

That should be one where the judge refuses to approve a settlement and dismisses it sua sponte.

Also, venue is totally wrong yet they didn't file in Cannon's court.

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1 minute ago, BrickHorn said:

Trump is their only moral compass. 

... who himself has no moral compass. The republican party everyone!

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1 minute ago, TwiceHorn said:

That should be one where the judge refuses to approve a settlement and dismisses it sua sponte.

Also, venue is totally wrong yet they didn't file in Cannon's court.

Not sure why the judge would have any say so to approve of a civil settlement if no minors or class action is involved. 

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1 minute ago, DDD Dad said:

Not sure why the judge would have any say so to approve of a civil settlement if no minors or class action is involved. 

Guess it depends on the form of the settlement.  If they want a nice consent judgment where the government admits to all kinds of fictitious wrongdoing, the court doesn't have to sign off on that.

If they're content with giving them a bunch of money on a dismissal, it still requires leave of court, if the government answers.

Also note that the FBI agent is sued in her individual capacity, which may affect things.  That is, the gubmint doesn't represent the totality of the defendants.  She's gonna need some backbone or good pro Bono representation, though.

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That suit should be DOA.  They were convicted.

Unless the gov’t wants to pay them. 

Yeah, DDD knows what’s up. It’s not a lawsuit. It’s a vehicle for transferring $100 million government dollars into the pocket of a private militia loyal to Trump. It’s a scam. Like this entire Regime.
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22 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

Nah, one can get away with a whole lot in the USA, but pedophilia and mistreating dogs are the two no-gos.  

The current president and everyone else involved with epstein got away with pedophilia.

So, it's dogs (with an asterisk) and what else?

I need to do so getting away with and am inquiring with intent to follow the rules as best as possible. 

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1 hour ago, Hank Kingsley said:

Many don't believe he gave a Nazi salute. Even if he did, it was just to troll, and everyone took the bait. Musk has done more meaningful damage to Americans than culture war bullshit.

There's a discipline needed to beat these fuckers and convince the convincible, and we don't have it. 

 

Oh shut the fuck up man.

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32 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 


Yeah, DDD knows what’s up. It’s not a lawsuit. It’s a vehicle for transferring $100 million government dollars into the pocket of a private militia loyal to Trump. It’s a scam. Like this entire Regime.

 

I'm just speculating on ways a judge can put the kibosh on it.

At one point, plaintiff and defense lawyers who had either filed or been removed to John McBryde's court were agreeing to dismiss, re-file in state court in Johnson County, and defendants agreed not to remove.  McBryde got wind of this and started refusing to dismiss injury cases without reviewing any agreement between the parties.

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4 minutes ago, Slacks said:

The current president and everyone else involved with epstein got away with pedophilia.

So, it's dogs (with an asterisk) and what else?

I need to do so getting away with and am inquiring with intent to follow the rules as best as possible. 

I think people are misunderstanding me.  You can get away with ANY crime if you are never caught.  You can get away with a lot of crimes even when you are caught if you have the right mix of wealth and power at your disposal.  Being a pedo isn't one of those crimes, mistreating dogs isn't one of those crimes.

As of this moment Dotard is not caught, and I doubt he is, but if he was and the evidence was there...no he would not get away with it.

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3 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I think people are misunderstanding me.  You can get away with ANY crime if you are never caught.  You can get away with a lot of crimes even when you are caught if you have the right mix of wealth and power at your disposal.  Being a pedo isn't one of those crimes, mistreating dogs isn't one of those crimes.

Catholic priests, the entire Epstein thing, and PSU disagree... 

And the only person I know to get in trouble for mistreating dogs is Vick. 

People may faux complain about these things, but ain't shit happening...

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21 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

I think people are misunderstanding me.  You can get away with ANY crime if you are never caught.  You can get away with a lot of crimes even when you are caught if you have the right mix of wealth and power at your disposal.  Being a pedo isn't one of those crimes, mistreating dogs isn't one of those crimes.

As of this moment Dotard is not caught, and I doubt he is, but if he was and the evidence was there...no he would not get away with it.

Just admit that you had an icy cold take and move on. It would be a lot less embarrassing than tripling down.

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2 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

That suit should be DOA.  They were convicted.

Same with the Ashli Babbitt wrongful death lawsuit and we know how that turned out. It’s a bad faith sue and settle scheme

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39 minutes ago, Ghost of NMAS said:

Trump could be filmed banging a kid on top of a pile of murdered dogs and his core base wouldn't give a shit

I don’t think a single GOP Congressperson would vote any differently 

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11 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Same with the Ashli Babbitt wrongful death lawsuit and we know how that turned out. It’s a bad faith sue and settle scheme

Well, the Babbitt suit had a few more factual issues, but still a winner for the government.

I don't think you can make these kinds of claims, as a matter of law, after a conviction that is undisturbed on appeal.

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36 minutes ago, royiv said:

Just admit that you had an icy cold take and move on. It would be a lot less embarrassing than tripling down.

Whether people agree with me and what people think of me on this site is of major importance to my day-to-day life.  Guess I need to go curl up in a fetal position and cry.  🙄

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Well, the Babbitt suit had a few more factual issues, but still a winner for the government.
I don't think you can make these kinds of claims, as a matter of law, after a conviction that is undisturbed on appeal.

Ashli Babbitt was “convicted.”

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1 hour ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

We're playing politics. They're playing war. They're winning bigly.

Thumbing our nuts and whining about the Dems is no defense or offense againt an actual enemy of the republic.

You can't argue with an infection; you must kill it.

A zombie apocalypse is the perfect metaphor about where we are.

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Hadn’t heard about this, and missed the performance on CNN; George Clooney has a play about the beginnings of TV news broadcasts, called “Good Night, and Good Luck.”  It was performed live on CNN. Slate says it is “right on time.”

https://slate.com/culture/2025/06/george-clooney-broadway-good-night-good-luck-cnn-tonys.html

 

Likely more preaching to the choir. But, I’ll watch it and hope for a little skateboarder energy.

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1 minute ago, Willfully Horn said:

Hadn’t heard about this, and missed the performance on CNN; George Clooney has a play about the beginnings of TV news broadcasts, called “Good Night, and Good Luck.”  It was performed live on CNN. Slate says it is “right on time.”

https://slate.com/culture/2025/06/george-clooney-broadway-good-night-good-luck-cnn-tonys.html

 

Likely more preaching to the choir. But, I’ll watch it and hope for a little skateboarder energy.

It's the stage version of the movie he did awhile back.  We saw it on Broadway and it's very powerful.

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My apologies if this has been posted already.
“The Intern in Charge”: Meet the 22-Year-Old Trump’s Team Picked to Lead Terrorism Prevention
One year out of college and with no apparent national security expertise, Thomas Fugate is the Department of Homeland Security official tasked with overseeing the government’s main hub for combating violent extremism.
https://www.propublica.org/article/trump-dhs-thomas-fugate-cp3-terrorism-prevention
When Thomas Fugate graduated from college last year with a degree in politics, he celebrated in a social media post about the exciting opportunities that lay beyond campus life in Texas. “Onward and upward!” he wrote, with an emoji of a rocket shooting into space.
His career blastoff came quickly. A year after graduation, the 22-year-old with no apparent national security expertise is now a Department of Homeland Security official overseeing the government’s main hub for terrorism prevention, including an $18 million grant program intended to help communities combat violent extremism.
The White House appointed Fugate, a former Trump campaign worker who interned at the hard-right Heritage Foundation, to a Homeland Security role that was expanded to include the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships. Known as CP3, the office has led nationwide efforts to prevent hate-fueled attacks, school shootings and other forms of targeted violence.
Fugate’s appointment is the latest shock for an office that has been decimated since President Donald Trump returned to the White House and began remaking national security to give it a laser focus on immigration.
News of the appointment has trickled out in recent weeks, raising alarm among counterterrorism researchers and nonprofit groups funded by CP3. Several said they turned to LinkedIn for intel on Fugate — an unknown in their field — and were stunned to see a photo of “a college kid” with a flag pin on his lapel posing with a sharply arched eyebrow. No threat prevention experience is listed in his employment history.
Typically, people familiar with CP3 say, a candidate that green wouldn’t have gotten an interview for a junior position, much less be hired to run operations. According to LinkedIn, the bulk of Fugate’s leadership experience comes from having served as secretary general of a Model United Nations club.
“Maybe he’s a wunderkind. Maybe he’s Doogie Howser and has everything at 21 years old, or whatever he is, to lead the office. But that’s not likely the case,” said one counterterrorism researcher who has worked with CP3 officials for years. “It sounds like putting the intern in charge.”
In the past seven weeks, at least five high-profile targeted attacks have unfolded across the U.S., including a car bombing in California and the gunning down of two Israeli Embassy aides in Washington. Against this backdrop, current and former national security officials say, the Trump administration’s decision to shift counterterrorism resources to immigration and leave the violence-prevention portfolio to inexperienced appointees is “reckless.”
“We’re entering very dangerous territory,” one longtime U.S. counterterrorism official said.
The fate of CP3 is one example of the fallout from deep cuts that have eliminated public health and violence-prevention initiatives across federal agencies.
The once-bustling office of around 80 employees now has fewer than 20, former staffers say. Grant work stops, then restarts. One senior civil servant was reassigned to the Federal Emergency Management Agency via an email that arrived late on a Saturday.
The office’s mission has changed overnight, with a pivot away from focusing on domestic extremism, especially far-right movements. The “terrorism” category that framed the agency’s work for years was abruptly expanded to include drug cartels, part of what DHS staffers call an overarching message that border security is the only mission that matters. Meanwhile, the Trump administration has largely left terrorism prevention to the states.
ProPublica sent DHS a detailed list of questions about Fugate’s position, his lack of national security experience and the future of the department’s prevention work. A senior agency official replied with a statement saying only that Fugate’s CP3 duties were added to his role as an aide in an Immigration & Border Security office.
“Due to his success, he has been temporarily given additional leadership responsibilities in the Center for Prevention Programs and Partnerships office,” the official wrote in an email. “This is a credit to his work ethic and success on the job.”
ProPublica sought an interview with Fugate through DHS and the White House, but there was no response.
The Trump administration rejects claims of a retreat from terrorism prevention, noting partnerships with law enforcement agencies and swift investigations of recent attacks. “The notion that this single office is responsible for preventing terrorism is not only incorrect, it’s ignorant,” spokesperson Abigail Jackson wrote in an email.
Through intermediaries, ProPublica sought to speak with CP3 employees but received no reply. Talking is risky; tales abound of Homeland Security personnel undergoing lie-detector tests in leak investigations, as Secretary Kristi Noem pledged in March.
Accounts of Fugate’s arrival and the dismantling of CP3 come from current and former Homeland Security personnel, grant recipients and terrorism-prevention advocates who work closely with the office and have at times been confidants for distraught staffers. All spoke on condition of anonymity for fear of reprisal from the Trump administration.
In these circles, two main theories have emerged to explain Fugate’s unusual ascent. One is that the Trump administration rewarded a Gen Z campaign worker with a resume-boosting title that comes with little real power because the office is in shambles.
The other is that the White House installed Fugate to oversee a pivot away from traditional counterterrorism lanes and to steer resources toward MAGA-friendly sheriffs and border security projects before eventually shuttering operations. In this scenario, Fugate was described as “a minder” and “a babysitter.”
DHS did not address a ProPublica question about this characterization.
Rising MAGA Star
The CP3 homepage boasts about the office’s experts in disciplines including emergency management, counterterrorism, public health and social work.
Fugate brings a different qualification prized by the White House: loyalty to the president.
On Instagram, Fugate traced his political awakening to nine years ago, when as a 13-year-old “in a generation deprived of hope, opportunity, and happiness, I saw in one man the capacity for real and lasting change: Donald Trump.”
Fugate is a self-described “Trumplican” who interned for state lawmakers in Austin before graduating magna cum laude a year ago with a degree in politics and law from the University of Texas at San Antonio. Instagram photos and other public information from the past year chronicle his lightning-fast rise in Trump world.
Starting in May 2024, photos show a newly graduated Fugate at a Texas GOP gathering launching his first campaign, a bid for a delegate spot at the Republican National Convention in Milwaukee. He handed out gummy candy and a flier with a photo of him in a tuxedo at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago estate. Fugate won an alternate slot.
The next month, he was in Florida celebrating Trump’s 78th birthday with the Club 47 fan group in West Palm Beach. “I truly wish I could say more about what I’m doing, but more to come soon!” he wrote in a caption, with a smiley emoji in sunglasses.
Posts in the run-up to the election show Fugate spending several weeks in Washington, a time he called “surreal and invigorating.” In July, he attended the Republican convention, sporting the Texas delegation’s signature cowboy hat in photos with MAGA luminaries such as former Cabinet Secretary Ben Carson and then-Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.).
Fugate at the Republican National Convention Credit:Via Fugate’s Instagram account
By late summer, Fugate was posting from the campaign trail as part of Trump’s advance team, pictured at one stop standing behind the candidate in a crowd of young supporters. When Trump won the election, Fugate marked the moment with an emotional post about believing in him “from the very start, even to the scorn and contempt of my peers.”
“Working alongside a dedicated, driven group of folks, we faced every challenge head-on and, together, celebrated a victorious outcome,” Fugate wrote on Instagram.
In February, the White House appointed Fugate as a “special assistant” assigned to an immigration office at Homeland Security. He assumed leadership of CP3 last month to fill a vacancy left by previous Director Bill Braniff, an Army veteran with more than two decades of national security experience who resigned in March when the administration began cutting his staff.
In his final weeks as director, Braniff had publicly defended the office’s achievements, noting the dispersal of nearly $90 million since 2020 to help communities combat extremist violence. According to the office’s 2024 report to Congress, in recent years CP3 grant money was used in more than 1,100 efforts to identify violent extremism at the community level and interrupt the radicalization process.
“CP3 is the inheritor of the primary and founding mission of DHS — to prevent terrorism,” Braniff wrote on LinkedIn when he announced his resignation.
In conversations with colleagues, CP3 staffers have expressed shock at how little Fugate knows about the basics of his role and likened meetings with him to “career counseling.” DHS did not address questions about his level of experience.
One grant recipient called Fugate’s appointment “an insult” to Braniff and a setback in the move toward evidence-based approaches to terrorism prevention, a field still reckoning with post-9/11 work that was unscientific and stigmatizing to Muslims.
“They really started to shift the conversation and shift the public thinking. It was starting to get to the root of the problem,” the grantee said. “Now that’s all gone.”
Critics of Fugate’s appointment stress that their anger isn’t directed at an aspiring politico enjoying a whirlwind entry to Washington. The problem, they say, is the administration’s seemingly cavalier treatment of an office that was funding work on urgent national security concerns.
“The big story here is the undermining of democratic institutions,” a former Homeland Security official said. “Who’s going to volunteer to be the next civil servant if they think their supervisor is an apparatchik?”
Season of Attacks
Spring brought a burst of extremist violence, a trend analysts fear could extend into the summer given inflamed political tensions and the disarray of federal agencies tasked with monitoring threats.
In April, an arson attack targeted Pennsylvania Gov. Josh Shapiro, a Democrat, who blamed the breach on “security failures.” Four days later, a mass shooter stormed onto the Florida State University campus, killing two and wounding six others. The alleged attacker had espoused white supremacist views and used Hitler as a profile picture for a gaming account.
Attacks continued in May with the apparent car bombing of a fertility clinic in California. The suspected assailant, the only fatality, left a screed detailing violent beliefs against life and procreation. A few days later, on May 21, a gunman allegedly radicalized by the war in Gaza killed two Israeli Embassy aides outside a Jewish museum in Washington.
June opened with a firebombing attack in Colorado that wounded 12, including a Holocaust survivor, at a gathering calling for the release of Israeli hostages. The suspect’s charges include a federal hate crime.
If attacks continue at that pace, warn current and former national security officials, cracks will begin to appear in the nation’s pared-down counterterrorism sector.
“If you cut the staff and there are major attacks that lead to a reconsideration, you can’t scale up staff once they’re fired,” said the U.S. counterterrorism official, who opposes the administration’s shift away from prevention.
He Died Without Getting Mental Health Care He Sought. A New Lawsuit Says His Insurer’s Ghost Network Is to Blame.
Contradictory signals are coming out of Homeland Security about the future of CP3 work, especially the grant program. Staffers have told partners in the advocacy world that Fugate plans to roll out another funding cycle soon. The CP3 website still touts the program as the only federal grant “solely dedicated to helping local communities develop and strengthen their capabilities” against terrorism and targeted violence.
But Homeland Security’s budget proposal to Congress for the next fiscal year suggests a bleaker future. The department recommended eliminating the threat-prevention grant program, explaining that it “does not align with DHS priorities.”
The former Homeland Security official said the decision “means that the department founded to prevent terrorism in the United States no longer prioritizes preventing terrorism in the United States.”
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Remember when in Andor, they brought out the green recruits to control the crowd and held be better troops back in reserve.
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3 hours ago, Bullneck said:

Martial Law . . . and, hey, walking poles!

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“Shortly after President Trump praised the National Guard for their work in Los Angeles, Mayor Karen Bass reminded residents that the troops had not arrived. ‘Just to be clear, the National Guard has not been deployed in the City of Los Angeles,’ she said on social media.”

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6 hours ago, Nivek said:

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Remember when in Andor, they brought out the green recruits to control the crowd and held be better troops back in reserve.

The one thing I'll say about this, which is generally just fucking absurd, is that we have too many agencies dicking around with domestic terrorism, and domestic/internal threats generally.  The same type of problem we had that led to 9/11.

It is and should be the FBI, full stop.  Not that that is particularly reassuring under Kashyap.

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Trump was in NJ last night taking in the UFC fights. I’m sure he will hit up his course in Bedminster to pay respects to his ex-wife and play a round. Add another 25 million to the national debt.

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7 hours ago, Nivek said:

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Remember when in Andor, they brought out the green recruits to control the crowd and held be better troops back in reserve.

What's building up in LA is going to be Ghorman Massacre type of thing. Trump wants the smoke, and he's flying Blackhawks full of weapons and CBP officers while activating the national guard on a NATIONAL scale. His presidential memo does not specify only California.

 

Anywhere, EVERYWHERE, in America - protesting is now considered an act of rebellion. They're literally drawing up battle lines and sending in soldiers.

Buckle up mods, its gonna be the 2020 summer of love all over again. Only worse.

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