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Just now, HenryJames said:

 

Again....we have made a financially illiterate moron the master of the fucking universe.  And we do so in the cause of "he's a brilliant businessman!"  FFS, he's good at precisely two things: conning people, and going bankrupt.

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3 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

So....let me get this straight, from the most brilliant business mind the world has ever seen:

"What I want is instead of going to the insurance companies [so, this money will NOT be going to the insurance companies.  Got it.], I want the money to go into an account for people where the people buy their own health insurance. It's so good. The insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody is gonna be happy. They're gonna feel like entrepreneurs. They're actually able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance [....by buying that insurance from...insurance companies.  So, turns out, this money WILL be going to the insurance companies.  Got it.].

Dumbest.  Fucking.  Timeline.  Imaginable.

Because, I mean.....yeah.  Cletus and Lurlene are gonna sit at the table across from BCBS, and "feel like entrepeneurs," and tell BCBS "we'll pay you $300 a month for full coverage, and not a penny more!  Take it or leave it!"  Yep.  That'll work.  Fart of the deal.

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So....let me get this straight, from the most brilliant business mind the world has ever seen:
"What I want is instead of going to the insurance companies [so, this money will NOT be going to the insurance companies.  Got it.], I want the money to go into an account for people where the people buy their own health insurance. It's so good. The insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody is gonna be happy. They're gonna feel like entrepreneurs. They're actually able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance [....by buying that insurance from...insurance companies.  So, turns out, this money WILL be going to the insurance companies.  Got it.].
Dumbest.  Fucking.  Timeline.  Imaginable.
Because, I mean.....yeah.  Cletus and Lurlene are gonna sit at the table across from BCBS, and "feel like entrepeneurs," and tell BCBS "we'll pay you $300 a month for full coverage, and not a penny more!  Take it or leave it!"  Yep.  That'll work.  Fart of the deal.

I would presume that the “accounts” for people will be accessed on a government website. I would also assume that the various options from insurers will be advertised or whatever on there. That actually might be a decent idea. I would kinda think of that whole interface/website as…

an exchange, if you will.

ETA: The money in the account could appropriately be referred to as a health care credit. I’m on board now.
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1 minute ago, scottsins said:

I would presume that the “accounts” for people will be accessed on a government website. I would also assume that the various options from insurers will be advertised or whatever on there. That actually might be a decent idea. I would kinda think of that whole interface/website as…

an exchange, if you will.

But most importantly, it absolutely, positively, will not be Obamacare.

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1 minute ago, David Dennison said:

But most importantly, it absolutely, positively, will not be Obamacare.

 

that is trump's only issue with the ACA 

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Does Laura Ingram really sit across from this guy and go-“what a genius!”?  I mean, it is the emperor’s new clothes thing, right?  These right wing shitheads have to know they are pledging their allegiance to a true buffoon, right?  Right?

I really want to send all of these clips to my 2 magat BILs and be like, “Really?”  It’s indefensible.

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28 minutes ago, tx 3 putt said:

 

that is trump's only issue with the ACA 

It's basically what he did with NAFTA. Said it was a bad deal and replaced it with what was essentially the same thing with a new moniker so he could say "look what I did!" Then turned around and claimed Mexico and Canada were ripping us off and started a tariff war (while failing to acknowledge that it was his trade deal that was now a "rip off").

I must admit, haggling with insurance companies over what I'm going to pay for a policy does sound like a fun use of my free time. 

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20 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Does Laura Ingram really sit across from this guy and go-“what a genius!”?  I mean, it is the emperor’s new clothes thing, right?  These right wing shitheads have to know they are pledging their allegiance to a true buffoon, right?  Right?

I really want to send all of these clips to my 2 magat BILs and be like, “Really?”  It’s indefensible.

You’re  making it too complicated, she/MAGA just want to own the libs, nothing else going on in their brains.

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22 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Does Laura Ingram really sit across from this guy and go-“what a genius!”?  I mean, it is the emperor’s new clothes thing, right?  These right wing shitheads have to know they are pledging their allegiance to a true buffoon, right?  Right?

I really want to send all of these clips to my 2 magat BILs and be like, “Really?”  It’s indefensible.

Act or not, it's made her fabulously wealthy. She's no dummy.

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7 minutes ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

It's basically what he did with NAFTA. Said it was a bad deal and replaced it with what was essentially the same thing with a new moniker so he could say "look what I did!" Then turned around and claimed Mexico and Canada were ripping us off and started a tariff war (while failing to acknowledge that it was his trade deal that was now a "rip off").

 

Didn’t he do the same thing with Iran and the nuclear sanctions? Killed Obamas deal that was working during his first term and then comes in office for his second term.  Decides to drop a few bombs followed by nearly the same sanctions.

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31 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Does Laura Ingram really sit across from this guy and go-“what a genius!”?  I mean, it is the emperor’s new clothes thing, right?  These right wing shitheads have to know they are pledging their allegiance to a true buffoon, right?  Right?

I really want to send all of these clips to my 2 magat BILs and be like, “Really?”  It’s indefensible.

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2 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

On Saturday evening, Pulte arrived at President Donald Trump’s Palm Beach Golf Club with a roughly 3-by-5 posterboard in hand. A graphic of former President Franklin Roosevelt appeared below “30-year mortgage” and one of Trump below “50-year mortgage.” The headline was “Great American Presidents.”

 

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8 minutes ago, miguelito said:

 

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No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.

 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

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6 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.

 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

The GenX is strong in this one….

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22 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

Well the good news is you’ll have SO much more leverage as an individual to negotiate prices than you would if you did it collectively with millions of others.

Shit, afaik there's nothing stopping any individual from haggling with insurance companies over what they'll pay for a policy. It will be just like when normal people go to grocery stores and flex their mad wheeler dealer skillz. 

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2 hours ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

 

This guy - this is not my kind of guy.

Trump as re-President is an ongoing referendum where Americans continually reaffirm they are collectively among the dumbest, most incurious group of mutherfuckers ever to reign. Tip of the hat to institutionalized propaganda that greets us when we get out of bed each morning on our smart, handheld devices. Couldn’t have done it without you.

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3 hours ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

We all suspect people just run to Trump with some stupid idea and he goes with it.  Now, here's proof:

 

https://www.politico.com/news/2025/11/10/trumps-50-year-mortgage-plan-is-getting-panned-allies-blame-this-man-00645654?is_login_link=&template_id=OTJIR2CRKUD6&utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=dlvr.it?experience_id=EXYF89KVT5UQ&variant_id=OTV632IE7RALS

 

 

 

 

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The episode underscores the haphazard ways consequential policies are sometimes brought before the president, and how Trump’s govern-by-whim nature can backfire.

“Anything that goes before POTUS needs to be vetted,” said the person present for Pulte’s poster presentation. “And a lot of times with Pulte they’re not. He just goes straight up to POTUS.”

One of the two people familiar said there is more fallout from this idea than almost any other policy proposal of the second term, including from the MAGA base.

Conservative influencers, including Laura Loomer, Mike Cernovich, Christopher Rufo, Sean Davis of the Federalist, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene (R-Ga.) blasted the idea on social media.

“The thing that became clear from this latest episode — if it wasn’t already clear — is that Bill Pulte doesn’t know the first fucking thing about how the mortgage markets operate,” one of the two people said. “After publicly humiliating the president with his moronic 50 year mortgage plan it’s safe to assume that his days are numbered.”

A slew of experts also panned the idea.

“It would lead to buyers building equity in their homes more slowly. At the beginning of the mortgage, more of those payments tend to be interest,” Gennadiy Goldberg, head of US rates strategy at TD Securities. “This is more of a stopgap bandaid to address affordability.”

This morning, Pulte seemed to acknowledge the criticism, posting that a 50 year mortgage is just one piece of “a WIDE arsenal of solutions” that the Trump administration is developing. He also mentioned other ideas including portable mortgages, which can transfer to a new property, and assumable mortgages, which can be transferred to a property’s new buyer.

White House spokesperson Davis Ingle said Trump is “committed to making it easier and more affordable to achieve the American Dream of homeownership by eliminating unnecessary red tape, increasing supply, and lowering costs.”

“The White House and the entire Trump administration are appreciative of Mr. Pulte’s efforts, and everyone is working together to implement the President’s policies,” Ingle said.

An FHFA spokesperson told POLITICO that the inflation under former President Joe Biden destroyed the housing market. “As a result, we are studying a myriad of options to combat the damage it’s done,” the spokesperson said.

This is not the first time Pulte’s policy proposals have caused headaches. He was also behind the idea Trump floated earlier this year to take Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac out of government conservatorship, which also resulted in significant pushback from industry.

It was also Pulte who first lodged mortgage fraud allegations against Fed Gov. Lisa Cook that Trump later used to fire her. Cook’s firing has been blocked in the courts and the case is pending before the Supreme Court.

POLITICO has also recently reported that Republicans in Congress are also growing increasingly frustrated with him.

Now, senior administration officials are increasingly getting fed up with Pulte’s approach. Yet Pulte remains close with the President and has direct access that aides have not been able to control.

“Trump isn’t just Pulte’s biggest ally in the admin, he is perhaps his only friend,” said one person familiar with their dynamic. “During Trump 2.0, the last time anything got as much pushback as this was over the ‘Epstein Files.’ MAGA is furious.”

In theory, 50-year mortgages would mean lower monthly payments for borrowers, but it also comes at a cost to homebuyers, who would build equity much more slowly.

In a statement warning that 50-year mortgages would “not address the true cause of today’s affordability challenges,” the National Association of Realtor’s chief economist Lawrence Yun said that homeowners could still gain some equity “as long as these mortgages are soundly underwritten.”

 

 

 

This is phenomenal. We actually could save this country fairly quickly if the right people could get in front of him with the right strategy.

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His dementia is 25th Amendment worthy, but he's always been so goddamn stupid you have no baseline to compare to.

This is what I’ve always said: if he gets dementia, how will we know?
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56 minutes ago, Sbbruin said:

No! No, no, not 6! I said 7. Nobody's comin' up with 6. Who works out in 6 minutes? You won't even get your heart goin, not even a mouse on a wheel.

 7's the key number here. Think about it. 7-Elevens. 7 dwarves. 7, man, that's the number. 7 chipmunks twirlin' on a branch, eatin' lots of sunflowers on my uncle's ranch. You know that old children's tale from the sea. It's like you're dreamin' about Gorgonzola cheese when it's clearly Brie time, baby. Step into my office.

Because you’re fuckin fired!

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2 hours ago, Redneck Mutha said:

Average age of first time home buyers is 40. Average life expectancy is 80. Get 50 year mortgage:

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Hmm, that sounds suspiciously like a rent controlled apartment. 

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1 hour ago, DaysOff said:

His dementia is 25th Amendment worthy, but he's always been so goddamn stupid you have no baseline to compare to.

I see a 25th amendment celebratory crypto bitcoin opportunity…by no other than the stable genius himself. Next level. 

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1 hour ago, Al Bundy's Napoleon Hand said:

I must admit, haggling with insurance companies AI over what I'm going to pay for a policy does sound like a fun use of my free time. 

Fify

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Hmm, that sounds suspiciously like a rent controlled apartment. 

A house is just a place that rich people own that you are allowed to live in - until they decide you aren’t.
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In DC for meetings the next couple of days. My wife and I went down and walked the loop around the reflecting pool and part of the national mall. All I felt was an overwhelming sense of sadness as we walked through the memorials for the hundreds of thousands of citizens that have died in the wars commemorated there just for us to be sitting here today in the shit show that has been created by both sides. The whole system is fucked and dishonors the memories of those that gave their lives for us to get to this point.

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WASHINGTON (AP) — President Donald Trump has pardoned his former personal lawyer Rudy Giuliani, his onetime chief of staff Mark Meadows and others accused of backing the Republican’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election.
 
https://apnews.com/article/rudy-giuliani-donald-trump-pardons-2020-election-73348c1c5d2779741bf8af5b5ffb1472

I feel like Im taking crazy pills that “pre-emptive” pardons are and were ever a thing. It reeks of corruption. Like a President wouldnt even have all the facts, wouldnt know the defense, wouldnt see sworn testimony or evidence. I get that it’s a check on judicial overreach, but a “reach” hasn’t even happened yet. And, when the pardoned is a co-conspirator of the pardoner, what the actual fuck? Come on founding fathers, you fucking suck.
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Trump: "I want the money to go into an account for people where the people buy there own health insurance. It's so good. The insurance will be better. It'll cost less. Everybody is going to be happy. They're going to feel like entrepreneurs. They will able to go out and negotiate their own health insurance…Call it Trumpcare."

 

 

 



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