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The early returns on the military resisting unlawful orders aren't looking good at all.

Hegseth and Trump purged all the leaders in the Pentagon that would’ve been an impediment in this shit-show.
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The party of small government, right Ana?
 
 

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11 minutes ago, Pancho said:

 

I can understand their rationale, since Russian-friendly Serbia doesn’t recognize their independence and they feel the need to be on the dickhead’s good side. They’re placing a bet that Il Dookie won’t eventually stab them in the back. We'll see how that goes for them.

For those who use Penzey's spices, they're running a 50% off special on their taco seasonings, all sizes.  I believe it's today only.  I love their stance on Republicans in general and this administration in particular.

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More hints that FEMA will be done away with in its entirety.  When the feds do contribute money to an area it in the future it will be done differently:

“We’re going to give it out directly. It’ll be from the president’s office. We’ll have somebody here, could be Homeland Security.”

Wanna bet which set of states (red versus blue) will get the lion's share of the money?

 

 

a man is sitting at a table in a restaurant with the words quelle fuckin ' surprise written on the bottom

 

Trump Says Army Bases Will Revert to Confederate Names
The move would reverse a yearslong effort to remove names and symbols honoring the Confederacy from the military.

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President Trump, during a speech at Fort Bragg, N.C., said on Tuesday that he would restore the names of all Army bases that were named for Confederate generals but were ordered changed by Congress in the waning days of his first administration.

His move skirts the law mandating the removal of Confederate symbols from the military through the same maneuver used to restore the name of Fort Bragg, which was briefly renamed Fort Liberty. In a statement, the Army said it would “take immediate action” to restore the old names of the bases originally honoring Confederates, but the base names would instead honor other American soldiers with similar names and initials.

For example, Fort Eisenhower in Georgia, honoring President Dwight D. Eisenhower — who led the D-Day landings during World War II — would revert to the name Fort Gordon, once honoring John Brown Gordon, the Confederate slave owner and suspected Ku Klux Klan member. This time around, however, the Army said the base would instead honor Master Sgt. Gary Gordon, who fought in the Battle of Mogadishu in Somalia.

Mr. Trump, however, contradicted that explanation in his announcement, at one point saying that the Army would be “restoring” the name of one Army base in Virginia — Fort Gregg-Adams — to “Fort Robert E. Lee,” previously named for the commander of the Confederate army. The Army said in its statement that the base would be renamed to honor Pvt. Fitz Lee, a member of the all-Black Buffalo Soldiers who was awarded a Medal of Honor after serving in the Spanish-American War.

Mr. Trump made the announcement as he took a victory lap for the renaming of the Army installation at Fort Bragg, N.C., which had been originally named for Braxton Bragg, the Confederate general. Fort Bragg was renamed to Fort Liberty after Congress moved to strip the base of its Confederate name in 2020, mandating a new one.

“Can you believe they changed that name in the last administration for a little bit?” Mr. Trump asked, as soldiers in the crowd loudly booed. “Fort Bragg is in. That’s the name. And Fort Bragg it shall always remain. That’s never going to be happening again.”

Delivering a campaign-style speech surrounded by hundreds of Army troops, Mr. Trump sought to turn the page on what was an embarrassing political defeat late in his first term. An overwhelming majority of Congress — Democrats and Republicans — overrrode his veto amid the fallout of protests after the murder of George Floyd to pass a bill that included a provision to rename the nine Army bases honoring Confederate generals.

Those bases were ultimately renamed for people who “embody the best of the United States Army,” according to the naming commission that recommended the initial changes. They included decorated officers, enlisted troops who survived harrowing trials in battle, and one civilian: Dr. Mary Edwards Walker, a Civil War surgeon and the only woman ever awarded a Medal of Honor.

One of the officers, Lt. Col. Charity Adams Earley, was honored by Congress earlier this year, with Speaker Mike Johnson presenting an award for the Six Triple Eight — the only all-Black, all-female Army battalion to serve in Europe during World War II — to her descendants.

If Mr. Trump’s effort to again rename the bases is successful, all of their names will be struck.

The original naming of the nine Army bases was part of a movement to glorify the Confederacy and advance the Lost Cause myth that the Civil War was fought over states’ rights and not slavery.

Mr. Trump and other conservatives had raged against the name changes, which were finalized under the Biden administration, arguing that “wokeness” was softening the military and wiping away important elements of American tradition and heritage. Mr. Trump, who has repeatedly defended monuments honoring Confederates, vowed during the 2024 campaign to revert the name of Fort Bragg to honor Braxton Bragg, who was widely considered by his fellow Confederates and many historians to have been a poor commander.

Mr. Trump’s pledge was brought to fruition in March, but with a twist that seemed both a rewriting of history and an internet troll. Fort Liberty again became Fort Bragg, not in honor of the Confederate general but in memory of Pvt. Roland L. Bragg, a previously obscure infantryman who had served at Fort Bragg and fought in the Battle of the Bulge during World War II.

Pete Hegseth, the defense secretary, announced a similar name change shortly after that appeared intended to sidestep the law banning the honoring of Confederates: Fort Moore — renamed in 2023 for Lt. Gen. Harold G. Moore and his wife, Julia — would again be called Fort Benning. Instead of honoring Henry L. Benning, a Confederate and white supremacist, the base would be named for Cpl. Fred G. Benning, who served during World War I.

Another name change by the Army on Tuesday appeared particularly tortured to fit the old name while still ostensibly honoring different soldiers: Fort Walker, named for the Civil War surgeon, would be renamed again to Fort A.P. Hill. That base was originally named to honor Ambrose Powell Hill, a Confederate officer who was killed late in the war. The Army said on Tuesday that the base would be renamed “Fort Anderson-Pinn-Hill” to honor Lt. Col. Edward Hill, First Sgt. Robert A. Pinn and Pvt. Bruce Anderson who fought for the United States during the Civil War.

 

 

4 minutes ago, jw4381 said:

He pees his pants just like us!!!!

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States need to withhold taxes that go to the feds and reinvest them in state military, emergency management, education, infrastructure. 

He's pushing us to realign into a confederacy that's easy to secede from and we need to take him up on it. 

On one hand, this is going to cripple tourism and international travel for the World Cup.  On the other, it should help drop ticket prices, no?

 

2 minutes ago, Mittens said:

On one hand, this is going to cripple tourism and international travel for the World Cup.  On the other, it should help drop ticket prices, no?

 

Sure.   If you want to sit next to Dan Patrick and Ken Paxton.  

I’ve seen videos of soccer stadium fans chanting “FUCK ICE.” Likely that chant will resurface at World Cup games. turnip will get mental when that happens on the world stage.

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The use of early 20th century graphics is certainly a choice.

Especially poignant and a little too on the nose.

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Who’s gonna call in every huffines dealership and build site to that hotline?

2 minutes ago, DDD Dad said:

The use of early 20th century graphics is certainly a choice.

Especially poignant and a little too on the nose.

From the comments to that post:

 

20 minutes ago, Mittens said:

On one hand, this is going to cripple tourism and international travel for the World Cup.  On the other, it should help drop ticket prices, no?

 

It’s not like soccer, I’m sorry, futbol is a real sport anyway. 

4 minutes ago, bluto said:

Who’s gonna call in every huffines dealership and build site to that hotline?

Don't forget Mi Cocina.  I'm looking at you, Ray Washburne.

Have they cancelled Juneteenth yet?

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

lol, Jane Coaston is the greatest 

 

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Like all Michigan sports fans online, she's been doing the lord's work reminding tOSU losers that even though they won an NC last year, they lost to Michigan. It's never not hilarious.  

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7 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Get in losers, we’re going losing. 
 

 

Lemme throw icewater on you: it does NOT take a majority to take over and destroy a country.  It only takes a large enough plurality.

Is 20% of your population fascist-loving, xenophobic shitheels?  That's not great, but that's not a critical mass that enables them to inflict real systemic damage.

Is over 1/3 of your population fascist-loving, xenophobic shitheels?  Well, now you're in trouble.  Because another 20-40% of your population will go with the fucking flow, and/or explain it all away.  And that is MORE than enough critical mass.

They are governing like they are the majority because they control the majority.  The rest of us need to realize we are an insurgency, because that's where we are.

1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

lol, Jane Coaston is the greatest 

 

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Lee killed more American soldiers than Hitler.

34 minutes ago, Firemans4Horn said:

Get in losers, we’re going losing. 
 

 

... and yet they voted for ALL of it.

so,  you know...🖕

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Shouldn't they be using the other templates?

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4 minutes ago, mchookem said:

... and yet they voted for ALL of it.

so,  you know...🖕

… and have no means to walk it back even if they wanted to now.

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From Military.com:

Bragg Soldiers Who Cheered Trump's Political Attacks While in Uniform Were Checked for Allegiance, Appearance

It was supposed to be a routine appearance, a visit from the commander in chief to rally the troops, boost morale and celebrate the Army's 250th-birthday week, which culminates with a Washington, D.C., parade slated for Saturday.

Instead, what unfolded Tuesday at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, bore little resemblance to the customary visit from a president and defense secretary. There, President Donald Trump unleashed a speech laced with partisan invective, goading jeers from a crowd of soldiers positioned behind his podium -- blurring the long-standing and sacrosanct line between the military and partisan politics.

As Trump viciously attacked his perceived political foes, he whipped up boos from the gathered troops directed at California leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom -- amid the president's controversial move to deploy the National Guard and Marines against protesters in Los Angeles -- as well as former President Joe Biden and the press. The soldiers roared with laughter and applauded Trump's diatribe in a shocking and rare public display of troops taking part in naked political partisanship.

For this story, Military.com reached out to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's office as well as the Army and the 82nd Airborne Division directly with a series of questions that ranged from the optics of the event to social media posts showing the sale of Trump campaign merchandise on the base, to the apparent violation of Pentagon policies on political activity in uniform.

Internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by Military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's recent visit, including handpicking soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance.

One unit-level message bluntly saying: "No fat soldiers."

"If soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out," another note to troops said.

Service officials declined to comment when asked about the extent to which troops were screened, whether soldiers displaying partisan cheers on television -- a violation of long-standing Pentagon rules -- would be disciplined or if soldiers who objected to participating in the event, citing disagreements with the administration, would be disciplined or admonished in any way.

"This has been a bad week for the Army for anyone who cares about us being a neutral institution," one commander at Fort Bragg told Military.com on the condition of anonymity to avoid retaliation. "This was shameful. I don't expect anything to come out of it, but I hope maybe we can learn from it long term."

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Experts were quick to come out and say that the public silence from military leadership is a missed opportunity to reinforce the military's nonpartisan nature. Meanwhile, the political leadership at the head of the Defense Department was far from apologetic.

"Believe me, no one needs to be encouraged to boo the media," Sean Parnell, a top Pentagon spokesperson, said in a statement to Military.com. "Look no further than this query, which is nothing more than a disgraceful attempt to ruin the lives of young soldiers."

Adding to the spectacle, a pop-up shop operated by 365 Campaign, a Tulsa, Oklahoma-based retailer that sells pro-Trump and other conservative-coded memorabilia, was set up on-site with campaign-style merchandise on Army property. Soldiers were seen purchasing clothing and tchotchkes, including "Make America Great Again" chain necklaces to faux credit cards labeled "White Privilege Card: Trumps Everything."

Permitting the sale of overtly partisan merchandise on an Army base likely runs afoul of numerous Defense Department regulations aimed at preserving the military's long-standing commitment to political neutrality. The Army has historically gone to great lengths to avoid even the appearance of partisanship.

Parnell did not respond to follow-up questions about the sale of MAGA campaign gear directly to troops.

Trump used much of his speech to slam California Democrats and tout his ongoing and unprecedented surge of nearly 5,000 federalized Guard soldiers and Marines to quell immigration protests.

"We will liberate Los Angeles and make it free, clean and safe again," he proclaimed to soldiers, adding that Newsom and L.A. Mayor Karen Bass are "incompetent" and falsely said they're aiding "insurrectionists" while goading troops into booing them.

"I bet none of those soldiers booing even know the mayor's name or could identify them in a lineup; they're nonexistent in the chain of command," an 82nd Airborne noncommissioned officer told Military.com. "So, any opinion they could possibly have can only be attributed to expressing a political view while in uniform."

Trump is far from the first president to use the troops as a backdrop for a speech that had political notes. But experts say this speech crossed a line and showed the military's ethics can be vulnerable.

"What I think is so remarkable about Bragg is that it's really a breakdown on the military side," Risa Brooks, an expert of civil-military relations at Marquette University, told Military.com.

"It shows it's possible -- that the military's professional ethics could fail," she said.

In 2022, Biden received criticism for delivering a speech outside Independence Hall in Philadelphia that aimed to warn the public about the authoritarian impulses of then-former President Trump and his supporters.

He was flanked by two Marines in dress uniform.

Republicans and reporters immediately jumped on Biden, slamming him for politicizing the military.

"The only thing worse than Biden's speech trashing his fellow citizens is wrapping himself in our flag and Marines to do it," Rep. Darrell Issa, R-Calif., wrote on social media at the time.

Another Trump administration official, James Hutton, said Biden "used U.S. Marines as props" and slammed the move as "despicable conduct in attacking more than half of Americans."

Ari Fleischer, a conservative commentator at the time, said the speech was not only "inappropriate" but that the Marine Corps had "some explaining to do" for allowing the speech to occur.

Neither Fleischer, Hutton nor Issa appears to have made any posts criticizing Trump's speech as of publication.

Going back decades, presidents have all used troops as background and set dressing for addresses and appearances that at times skirted the line between the nonpartisan nature of the military and the politics of the presidency.

Biden's White House press secretary, Karine Jean-Pierre, noted to reporters after Biden's speech in 2022 that "it is actually normal for presidents from either side of the aisle to give speeches in front of members of the military, including President ... Ronald Reagan and President George H.W. Bush."

"It is not an unusual sight or is not an unusual event to have happened," she added.

Brooks also agreed and noted that many of the instances of troops being used as props "are mostly instigated by the civilian side."

However, many of those examples were presidents choosing the setting to speak to the troops about military policy and issues that affected them personally, and with the exceptions of polite applause and laughs at presidential jokes, troops have not been especially vocal or reactive to the rhetoric being offered.

"Trump has gone farther than any other politician in the tenor and content of his comments, overtly treating events with troops in the audience as campaign rallies, and overtly and directly criticizing his opponents," Brooks said.

Long before the unprecedented speech at Fort Bragg this week, Trump has been blurring the lines between politics and military events. In the early days of his first term, he spoke to troops at MacDill Air Force Base in Florida and told the assembled troops "we had a wonderful election, didn't we?"

"And I saw those numbers, and you liked me and I liked you. That's the way it worked," he added.

Trump also went on to use the Pentagon's Hall of Heroes to sign a ban on travel from Muslim-majority countries during his first term. Marines appeared in a 2020 Republican National Committee video that he shot at the White House. That same year, then-Joint Chiefs Chairman Gen. Mark Milley appeared alongside Trump in Lafayette Square outside the White House after federal officials forcibly cleared a street of peaceful protesters for a photo opportunity in front of a local church.

Milley later apologized for his presence.

Despite the silence from military brass this week, other experts, military observers and a handful of former leaders, have condemned the speech or the ensuing silence.

Retired Army Lt. Gen. Russel Honore, best known for serving as the task force commander that coordinated military relief efforts for Hurricane Katrina, called the speech "inappropriate."

"I never witnessed that s..t like this in 37 years in uniform," Honore wrote on social media Tuesday.

"Once you see one instance of this happening, it potentially normalizes it," Brooks warned. "It opens the door to more instances and more overt violations of the nonpartisan ethic."

 

 

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Not a student of history I see

9 minutes ago, bolverk said:

Adding to the spectacle, a pop-up shop operated by 365 Campaign, a Tulsa, Oklahoma-based retailer that sells pro-Trump and other conservative-coded memorabilia, was set up on-site with campaign-style merchandise on Army property. Soldiers were seen purchasing clothing and tchotchkes, including "Make America Great Again" chain necklaces to faux credit cards labeled "White Privilege Card: Trumps Everything."


Broadcasting Fox News in military base public spaces for 20+ years looks to be paying off for all the wrong people.

1 hour ago, Firemans4Horn said:

 

Hello, ICE? I’d like to report a foreign invasion. The address is 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. 

3 hours ago, bolverk said:

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Have you seen this thing? It has a great character who was treated very unfairly. Inspector Javert. He's just trying to enforce the law but then you have the criminal Jean Valjean who lies. I call him Lying Jean Valjean. He lies about who he is. Why would he lie about that? 

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What if we got the entire internet to call that number and report Melania Trump...?

4 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

What if we got the entire internet to call that number and report Melania Trump...?

Like anybody knows where the hell she is. The one place she most certainly is not is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. So I guess that narrows it down a bit. 

26 minutes ago, Surly Bevo said:

Like anybody knows where the hell she is. The one place she most certainly is not is 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. So I guess that narrows it down a bit. 

Well, yeah, but I'm still calling it in with that address.

My smartassery will not be stifled by facts.  It's all I've got left.

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1 hour ago, bolverk said:

From Military.com:

Bragg Soldiers Who Cheered Trump's Political Attacks While in Uniform Were Checked for Allegiance, Appearance

It was supposed to be a routine appearance, a visit from the commander in chief to rally the troops, boost morale and celebrate the Army's 250th-birthday week, which culminates with a Washington, D.C., parade slated for Saturday.

Instead, what unfolded Tuesday at Fort Bragg, North Carolina, bore little resemblance to the customary visit from a president and defense secretary. There, President Donald Trump unleashed a speech laced with partisan invective, goading jeers from a crowd of soldiers positioned behind his podium -- blurring the long-standing and sacrosanct line between the military and partisan politics.

As Trump viciously attacked his perceived political foes, he whipped up boos from the gathered troops directed at California leaders, including Gov. Gavin Newsom -- amid the president's controversial move to deploy the National Guard and Marines against protesters in Los Angeles -- as well as former President Joe Biden and the press. The soldiers roared with laughter and applauded Trump's diatribe in a shocking and rare public display of troops taking part in naked political partisanship.

For this story, Military.com reached out to Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth's office as well as the Army and the 82nd Airborne Division directly with a series of questions that ranged from the optics of the event to social media posts showing the sale of Trump campaign merchandise on the base, to the apparent violation of Pentagon policies on political activity in uniform.

Internal 82nd Airborne Division communications reviewed by Military.com reveal a tightly orchestrated effort to curate the optics of Trump's recent visit, including handpicking soldiers for the audience based on political leanings and physical appearance.

One unit-level message bluntly saying: "No fat soldiers."

"If soldiers have political views that are in opposition to the current administration and they don't want to be in the audience then they need to speak with their leadership and get swapped out," another note to troops said.

Service officials declined to comment when asked about the extent to which troops were screened, whether soldiers displaying partisan cheers on television -- a violation of long-standing Pentagon rules -- would be disciplined or if soldiers who objected to participating in the event, citing disagreements with the administration, would be disciplined or admonished in any way.

"This has been a bad week for the Army for anyone who cares about us being a neutral institution," one commander at Fort Bragg told Military.com on the condition of anonymity to avoid retaliation. "This was shameful. I don't expect anything to come out of it, but I hope maybe we can learn from it long term."

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I get the criticism of the military brass who failed to prepare their soldiers for Trump’s craven political stunt. But the real tragedy is having a norm busting POTUS who used soldiers (for whom he has no respect) to feed his ego. He’s a broken, immoral, disordered monster.

1 hour ago, bolverk said:

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They should take him to that play in which Alexander Hamilton is a Negro.

5 hours ago, 27-25 said:

More hints that FEMA will be done away with in its entirety.  When the feds do contribute money to an area it in the future it will be done differently:

“We’re going to give it out directly. It’ll be from the president’s office. We’ll have somebody here, could be Homeland Security.”

Wanna bet which set of states (red versus blue) will get the lion's share of the money?

 

 

Interesting. Flood Insurance is currently run through FEMA. If it goes back to private companies, everyone is screwed. 

2 hours ago, mdmost said:

Have you seen this thing? It has a great character who was treated very unfairly. Inspector Javert. He's just trying to enforce the law but then you have the criminal Jean Valjean who lies. I call him Lying Jean Valjean. He lives about who he is. Why would he lie about that? 

So there’s this guy, Javert—tremendous law and order guy, okay? Nobody respects the law more than Javert. He believes in rules. Big believer in justice, no exceptions. Some people say too much justice—too tough! But not me. He’s doing what he thinks is right. Very strong!

Now there’s this other guy, Jean Valjean—total disaster at first, stole a loaf of bread, can you believe it? One loaf. Sad! But then he turns it around—starts a business, helps people, really classy stuff. But Javert? He’s not buying it. He says, “Once a criminal, always a criminal.” Very tough, very focused. He’s like a border wall with legs—nothing gets by him!

But then— Javert starts to crack. He sees Valjean being a good guy and He can’t take it. Doesn’t compute. Law or mercy? Rules or humanity? It’s a mess. A big, beautiful existential crisis. Eventually, Javert can’t handle it, and—boom—he’s out. Walks off the job forever. Very tragic. Very French.

In the end, great story, tremendous drama. Very emotional. People cry. I don’t cry, but people do. They cry to me! Big strong guys, with tears in their eyes coming to me all the time they say “sir,” -they always say sir. Javert—strong guy, but not so strong in the end. Very sad.

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