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1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

Also, admitting that I couldn't see you because I was so far ahead of you is one of your greatest own-goals ever. 

I believe what I said was that you couldn't see me because your head doesn't turn all the way around like the girl in The Exorcist. 

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2 hours ago, BurntOrange&White said:

Be sure to wear a name tag that says CloseTo J

Too obvious;  Claus DaJumpe is better.  It also allows for a fake french accent to further alienate the locals.  

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14 hours ago, Knoxtnhorn said:

Speaking of.  In Scipio's latest version of his Texas football mag - at least I think it's Scipio - he states that some dude did a study in 2020 where college fans were polled about their biggest rival.  I believe Texas was the response for 9; the next closest 3.  I'm wracking my brain.  What are the 9?

aggy

arky - LSU?

Tech - should be aggy

Baylor

Houston

TCU - should be SMU

 

 

13 hours ago, billfromlaketravis said:

I think I remember that article. There were some insane responses. West Virginia I believe was the surprise team of the 9.

WVU

piggy

aggy

OU

Tech

TCU

Baylor 

Coug High 

Rice


That’s my best guess. If Okie State, Iowa State, and Kansas State listed Texas the their primary rival during the dark Big 12 era after 2011, it wouldn’t shock me. 

 

12 hours ago, Hagbard Celine said:

#1 is 0u

#2 is 0u

#3 is 0u

#4 uga

#5 tosu

#6 gatahh

#7 pig

aggy is never on any list

beating aggy is meaningless

78-0 over aggy is the minimum acceptable pleasing result

It was 11. The website of the original study appears to be gone but a blurb from KPCR still lives. Duke was second with 7. 

Teams that listed Texas as their rival: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia, Nebraska, Houston, Kansas

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1 minute ago, HuttNuts said:

 

 

It was 11. The website of the original study appears to be gone but a blurb from KPCR still lives. Duke was second with 7. 

Teams that listed Texas as their rival: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia, Nebraska, Houston, Kansas

Okie State is just some demented shit. OU is your rival. Always ways. Always will be.

Nebraska is unstable ex sour grapes. Colorado is the correct answer

3 minutes ago, HuttNuts said:

 

 

It was 11. The website of the original study appears to be gone but a blurb from KPCR still lives. Duke was second with 7. 

Teams that listed Texas as their rival: Oklahoma, Texas A&M, Texas Tech, Baylor, TCU, Oklahoma State, Kansas State, West Virginia, Nebraska, Houston, Kansas

Oklahoma State is just some demented shit. OU is your rival. Always was. Always will be. 
 

The others make sense in the former Big 12 weekly bar fight bullshit. 

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I'm glad the CFP is now codifying the Bama/Ole Miss/South Carolina rule from 2024 - DONT LOSE TO BAD OR AVERAGE TEAMS AND EXPECT NOT TO BE PENALIZED

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Posted
6 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

I am sure there is a better thread to post this, so someone should, but I'm in a hurry and saw this update on SOS changes with the CFP analysis and committee. Pretty fucking big deal. It's great for Texas and anyone who actually schedules aggressively OOC and it's great for rewarding those kinds of games in general. 

 

I hope this will quiet some of the whinging from the pussies who don't want to schedule good OOC games and prefer that we go the SEC cupcake route.

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4 minutes ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Okie State is just some demented shit. OU is your rival. Always ways. Always will be.

They may not like Texas, and they may look forward to that game, but no way in hell do I believe most OSU fans consider Texas a bigger rival than bedlam. I'm not really buying WVU, KU, or KSU either.  thats some made up clickbait bullshit, which probably explains why the site sportsrivalry.com no longer exists. 

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5 minutes ago, Blotto said:

They may not like Texas, and they may look forward to that game, but no way in hell do I believe most OSU fans consider Texas a bigger rival than bedlam. I'm not really buying WVU, KU, or KSU either.  thats some made up clickbait bullshit, which probably explains why the site sportsrivalry.com no longer exists. 

A professor did it as some sort of survey for a study. The results surprised him and they went out and got it published. It's not like it was just some clickfarmer leveraging the Texas brand. I forget the methodology, but I feel like there was a plurality of voting involved, not just naming one opponent.

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13 minutes ago, Blotto said:

They may not like Texas, and they may look forward to that game, but no way in hell do I believe most OSU fans consider Texas a bigger rival than bedlam. I'm not really buying WVU, KU, or KSU either.  thats some made up clickbait bullshit, which probably explains why the site sportsrivalry.com no longer exists. 

Can confirm the last game up in Morgantown there were more upside down longhorn flags at the tailgates than WVU flags. Still lots of moonshine sharing though. I miss that road trip.

Edit, forgot about this:

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Posted
4 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

A professor did it as some sort of survey for a study. The results surprised him and they went out and got it published. It's not like it was just some clickfarmer leveraging the Texas brand. I forget the methodology, but I feel like there was a plurality of voting involved, not just naming one opponent.

This is how I recall it as well. Not "who is your top rival" but "which schools are your rivals?". I think Texas appeared on the most number of responses. 

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13 minutes ago, irishtexan said:

This is how I recall it as well. Not "who is your top rival" but "which schools are your rivals?". I think Texas appeared on the most number of responses. 

I believe this is correct: "a" rival, not "the" rival.

Obviously OU is Okie State's top rival and Pitt is WVU's.

Posted
31 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

 

 

In theory it’s a big deal, but will it matter?

I’d assume we’re going to line up all the P4 one loss teams then the two loss then three loss.  Figure out where to slot the non-P4s.  The SEC and Big 10 will continue to assume their schedules are worth 1 or 2 more losses but know they won’t get all the slots but will work to take all they can get.  I do think that we’ll end up at the front of the line of our loss category with our schedule, which would likely be with or without this adjustment.

From a scheduling standpoint for 90% of the teams, a loss would be more detrimental even against a high quality opponent than a win over a middling opponent.  They’ll never have the depth to sustain over the long season if scheduling hard.  Whatever rationale they currently have, they’ll still have.

In the end, I think you’ll have teams scheduling based on their own perspectives with this having a limited impact.

Posted
47 minutes ago, TrashMaster G said:

I hope this will quiet some of the whinging from the pussies who don't want to schedule good OOC games and prefer that we go the SEC cupcake route.

I only spend about a month out of the year here on the football board, do you happen to remember the names of some of these weeping gashes sect of posters who whine about OOC games and want an 8 game SEC schedule? You know, for posterity. 

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I’m talking from experience. I was shit talking Mack during the ole Miss game of his final year and booing him and some old guy got in my face and choked me as I laughed at him and said Mack is getting fired. He was removed from the stadium. 

Thank you for not telling anyone. I’d hate to lose my teaching job.
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2 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I only spend about a month out of the year here on the football board, do you happen to remember the names of some of these weeping gashes sect of posters who whine about OOC games and want an 8 game SEC schedule? You know, for posterity. 

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Posted
1 hour ago, billfromlaketravis said:

Okie State is just some demented shit. OU is your rival. Always ways. Always will be.

Nebraska is unstable ex sour grapes. Colorado is the correct answer

Oklahoma State is just some demented shit. OU is your rival. Always was. Always will be. 
 

The others make sense in the former Big 12 weekly bar fight bullshit. 

Fans and OSU alumni for 3 generations likely believe their primary cfb role is taking a raw dogging to OU to boost OU end of season ranking

Posted
5 hours ago, Js1 said:

If your gun wasn’t loaded while you’re cleaning it, the King of England could just walk in and start shoving you around!

I don't need to be careful - I have a gun!

Posted
22 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I only spend about a month out of the year here on the football board, do you happen to remember the names of some of these weeping gashes sect of posters who whine about OOC games and want an 8 game SEC schedule? You know, for posterity. 

Don't recall off the top of my head, but I'm sure a well-placed comment or two could smoke some of them out.

Posted
22 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

In theory it’s a big deal, but will it matter?

I’d assume we’re going to line up all the P4 one loss teams then the two loss then three loss.  Figure out where to slot the non-P4s.  The SEC and Big 10 will continue to assume their schedules are worth 1 or 2 more losses but know they won’t get all the slots but will work to take all they can get.  I do think that we’ll end up at the front of the line of our loss category with our schedule, which would likely be with or without this adjustment.

From a scheduling standpoint for 90% of the teams, a loss would be more detrimental even against a high quality opponent than a win over a middling opponent.  They’ll never have the depth to sustain over the long season if scheduling hard.  Whatever rationale they currently have, they’ll still have.

In the end, I think you’ll have teams scheduling based on their own perspectives with this having a limited impact.

People make decisions based on emotion and then justify those decisions with whatever reason, rationale or logic they can summon or leverage. The committee leans heavily on their internal formulas to justify their decisions. They did that this past year. They admit doing that in this press release. 

So, yes, it will matter. Will it make everyone happy? No. Will many autists who follow all of this whine that we're not leaving it totally up to machines or a formula or transparently receiving the decision-helping tools? Yes. 

If you don't think this is going to put more pressure on OOC scheduling, I don't know what could be done to actually alter your POV. The build-up to the early OOC games this season has been enormous. The media is giving the programs Texas, OSU, Florida, OU, Michigan, Bama, Clemson, FSU, LSU, ATM, Auburn, Baylor, and Notre Dame a ton of credit and, really for the first time, the pansy schedulers are truly being ridiculed. Indiana and Penn State are being mocked aggressively. These rule changes further embolden the CFP committee to follow suit and, if having to split hairs, lean on SOS to justify a difficult decision. 

If Texas loses close road games to Ohio State and Florida and then loses the CCG in OT again, a 10-3 Texas is getting in versus a 10-2 Indiana who lost to Oregon and PSU and played virtually no one else. This rule change likely helps someone immediately this season. Schedule tough OOC games and don't lose ugly games and you have a great shot of getting into the CFP.

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Posted
38 minutes ago, Ricky Butler said:

I hope the season never starts. This thread is so much better when it's just a bunch of handsome, tall, rich guys with big dicks talking about their favorite months.

Well, fuck. Tall, handsome, and rich doesn't apply to me . . .

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Posted
1 hour ago, TrashMaster G said:

I hope this will quiet some of the whinging from the pussies who don't want to schedule good OOC games and prefer that we go the SEC cupcake route.

The sec cupcake games in November should be banned

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Posted
1 minute ago, closetojumping said:

People make decisions based on emotion and then justify those decisions with whatever reason, rationale or logic they can summon or leverage. The committee leans heavily on their internal formulas to justify their decisions. They did that this past year. They admit doing that in this press release. 

So, yes, it will matter. Will it make everyone happy? No. Will many autists who follow all of this whine that we're not leaving it totally up to machines or a formula or transparently receiving the decision-helping tools? Yes. 

If you don't think this is going to put more pressure on OOC scheduling, I don't know what could be done to actually alter your POV. The build-up to the early OOC games this season has been enormous. The media is giving the programs Texas, OSU, Florida, OU, Michigan, Bama, Clemson, FSU, LSU, ATM, Auburn, Baylor, and Notre Dame a ton of credit and, really for the first time, the pansy schedulers are truly being ridiculed. Indiana and Penn State are being mocked aggressively. These rule changes further embolden the CFP committee to follow suit and, if having to split hairs, lean on SOS to justify a difficult decision. 

If Texas loses close road games to Ohio State and Florida and then loses the CCG in OT again, a 10-3 Texas is getting in versus a 10-2 Indiana who lost to Oregon and PSU and played virtually no one else. This rule change likely helps someone immediately this season. Schedule tough OOC games and don't lose ugly games and you have a great shot of getting into the CFP.

Just in time for Elko to get his way and stop scheduling strong OOC opponents. 

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7 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

If Texas loses close road games to Ohio State and Florida and then loses the CCG in OT again, a 10-3 Texas is getting in versus a 10-2 Indiana who lost to Oregon and PSU and played virtually no one else. This rule change likely helps someone immediately this season. Schedule tough OOC games and don't lose ugly games and you have a great shot of getting into the CFP.

And inversely, a Texas team that beats Ohio State on the road is going to get a massive amount of grace for potentially slipping up midseason against someone (or someones). Because it will likely be (like 2023) the best non-conf resume win of any team in the playoff conversation. 

Credit Texas and CDC for going:

2017/18 - USC
2019 - LSU
2020 - (should have been LSU, but fucking COVID)
2022/23 - Bama
2024 - Michigan
2025/26 - Ohio State
2027 - Michigan
2028/29 - Notre Dame

Need to get some legit for 2030/31 to bridge the gap until 2032/33 Arizona State

And none of them have been neutral site BS - we will go play at anyone's house. 

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Posted
1 minute ago, orange dream said:

Does this mean they are taking away our November game against the Aggies?

Sadly, we can't get out of that FCS game, but it's in conference so shouldn't ding our schedule too badly.

Posted
41 minutes ago, SydneyCarton said:

I only spend about a month out of the year here on the football board, do you happen to remember the names of some of these weeping gashes sect of posters who whine about OOC games and want an 8 game SEC schedule? You know, for posterity. 

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14 minutes ago, Js1 said:

And inversely, a Texas team that beats Ohio State on the road is going to get a massive amount of grace for potentially slipping up midseason against someone (or someones). Because it will likely be (like 2023) the best non-conf resume win of any team in the playoff conversation. 

Credit Texas and CDC for going:

2017/18 - USC
2019 - LSU
2020 - (should have been LSU, but fucking COVID)
2022/23 - Bama
2024 - Michigan
2025/26 - Ohio State
2027 - Michigan
2028/29 - Notre Dame

Need to get some legit for 2030/31 to bridge the gap until 2032/33 Arizona State

And none of them have been neutral site BS - we will go play at anyone's house. 

Hopefully the 2030/31 games get us out of the Midwest (unless it's Wisconsin, that would rule)

Posted
15 minutes ago, Js1 said:

And inversely, a Texas team that beats Ohio State on the road is going to get a massive amount of grace for potentially slipping up midseason against someone (or someones). Because it will likely be (like 2023) the best non-conf resume win of any team in the playoff conversation. 

Credit Texas and CDC for going:

2017/18 - USC
2019 - LSU
2020 - (should have been LSU, but fucking COVID)
2022/23 - Bama
2024 - Michigan
2025/26 - Ohio State
2027 - Michigan
2028/29 - Notre Dame

Need to get some legit for 2030/31 to bridge the gap until 2032/33 Arizona State

And none of them have been neutral site BS - we will go play at anyone's house. 

Texas going @Bama, @Michigan and then @Ohio State three years in a row has to be something unprecedented. 

I was pretty surprised to see that Bama has started scheduling multiple P4 OOC opponents each season. I'm hoping Texas follows suit, especially if the conference keeps dragging its feet on the 9 game schedule. 

I heard a while back that there was talk about extending the Notre Dame match-up into 2030/2031 once Florida became a conference foe. I guess that's not going anywhere because it would have been easy to add announce.

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Posted
4 minutes ago, texifornia said:

Hopefully the 2030/31 games get us out of the Midwest (unless it's Wisconsin, that would rule)

I feel like Oregon would be bad ass, considering it’s a program we recruit against a lot. Partial to Colorado so I can go to the game in Boulder 

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45 minutes ago, Js1 said:

And inversely, a Texas team that beats Ohio State on the road is going to get a massive amount of grace for potentially slipping up midseason against someone (or someones). Because it will likely be (like 2023) the best non-conf resume win of any team in the playoff conversation. 

Credit Texas and CDC for going:

2017/18 - USC
2019 - LSU
2020 - (should have been LSU, but fucking COVID)
2022/23 - Bama
2024 - Michigan
2025/26 - Ohio State
2027 - Michigan
2028/29 - Notre Dame

Need to get some legit for 2030/31 to bridge the gap until 2032/33 Arizona State

And none of them have been neutral site BS - we will go play at anyone's house. 

100%  an OSU win means a 2 sec loss Texas team still easily gets an at large bid in my estimate.

Strike First and Strike Hard this season. 

Posted
1 hour ago, Ricky Butler said:

I hope the season never starts. This thread is so much better when it's just a bunch of handsome, tall, rich guys with big dicks talking about their favorite months.

Mine's September. 

 

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Posted
17 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

People make decisions based on emotion and then justify those decisions with whatever reason, rationale or logic they can summon or leverage. The committee leans heavily on their internal formulas to justify their decisions. They did that this past year. They admit doing that in this press release. 

So, yes, it will matter. Will it make everyone happy? No. Will many autists who follow all of this whine that we're not leaving it totally up to machines or a formula or transparently receiving the decision-helping tools? Yes. 

If you don't think this is going to put more pressure on OOC scheduling, I don't know what could be done to actually alter your POV. The build-up to the early OOC games this season has been enormous. The media is giving the programs Texas, OSU, Florida, OU, Michigan, Bama, Clemson, FSU, LSU, ATM, Auburn, Baylor, and Notre Dame a ton of credit and, really for the first time, the pansy schedulers are truly being ridiculed. Indiana and Penn State are being mocked aggressively. These rule changes further embolden the CFP committee to follow suit and, if having to split hairs, lean on SOS to justify a difficult decision. 

If Texas loses close road games to Ohio State and Florida and then loses the CCG in OT again, a 10-3 Texas is getting in versus a 10-2 Indiana who lost to Oregon and PSU and played virtually no one else. This rule change likely helps someone immediately this season. Schedule tough OOC games and don't lose ugly games and you have a great shot of getting into the CFP.

Actual results that prove it.  Take your Baylor.  They lose to Auburn then lose two more in the Big 12.  Does 9-3 Baylor go over 10-2 Indiana?  If Baylor loses out, then there’s a chance they think twice when scheduling future games.  They don’t know they’re out or in at 10-2, but they do know they’re out at 9-3.  Also with the loss to Auburn, they’ve now opened the door for a 4-loss Auburn to knock them out.  Some ADs are willing to risk that; others are not.

The Texas, the Ohio States will always have room for error more than others partly due to conference affiliations.  Outside those two conferences, stacking wins is more important.  And it’s incredibly difficult to imagine an SEC conference championship participant not get a playoff invite in favor of a non-championship participant.  So what about a 10-3 Indiana as compared to a 9-3 Texas?  That would imply they lose to OSU too or made it further in conference.  A 10-2 Texas is getting in over a 10-2 Indiana is the scenario you presented tweak to the formula or not.  They can justify at that point before the additional data point.

I do think the media hype is a big deal and more impactful about getting big games than this is.

Im an advocate for scheduling the good stuff but not all those with authority will view it the same.  I’ve already got plans to watch us play at Oregon.  My argument has nothing to do with how I feel but more of how others may act.

 

Posted
35 minutes ago, closetojumping said:

Texas going @Bama, @Michigan and then @Ohio State three years in a row has to be something unprecedented. 

I was pretty surprised to see that Bama has started scheduling multiple P4 OOC opponents each season. I'm hoping Texas follows suit, especially if the conference keeps dragging its feet on the 9 game schedule. 

I heard a while back that there was talk about extending the Notre Dame match-up into 2030/2031 once Florida became a conference foe. I guess that's not going anywhere because it would have been easy to add announce.

Yeah, the 3 years in a row @ major non con opponents is a product of the early exit from the B12. They flipped the Michigan game to an away game to make Fox whole, but originally was a home game. I am not sure if we are going to get a return trip from Michigan or tOSU out of the deal, but I hope so. 

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7 minutes ago, Had Enough said:

Actual results that prove it.  Take your Baylor.  They lose to Auburn then lose two more in the Big 12.  Does 9-3 Baylor go over 10-2 Indiana?  If Baylor loses out, then there’s a chance they think twice when scheduling future games.  They don’t know they’re out or in at 10-2, but they do know they’re out at 9-3.  Also with the loss to Auburn, they’ve now opened the door for a 4-loss Auburn to knock them out.  Some ADs are willing to risk that; others are not.

What in the fuckall does "Baylor over Indiana" have to do with the best team in the country? Having 12 or 16 teams or whatever in the playoff does nothing to determine who is the best team. We all know the best teams at the end of the season. Everything else is mental masturbation. The playoff are just a money grab that devalue what used to be the best regular season of any sport. Debating the ankle biters is a game for losers. 

Neither Baylor nor Indiana belong in the same zip code as the playoffs. Jesus.

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Posted
Just now, Vertigo said:

I am not sure if we are going to get a return trip from Michigan or tOSU out of the deal

They are on the schedule for 2026 and 2027, so it would be really shitty for both of those schools to back out now.  

Posted
34 minutes ago, Js1 said:

I feel like Oregon would be bad ass, considering it’s a program we recruit against a lot. Partial to Colorado so I can go to the game in Boulder 

Give me Clemson or FSU for probably the top of OOC road trips I would like to make.   In Big 10, Oregon feels like too much of a hike although would be interested .  Wisconsin and PSU would be cool as well.

Posted
1 minute ago, Js1 said:

They are on the schedule for 2026 and 2027, so it would be really shitty for both of those schools to back out now.  

Lots of people that know or claim to know things believe both of those shit birds are going to back out on us. 

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Just now, Wulaw Horn said:

Lots of people that know or claim to know things believe both of those shit birds are going to back out on us. 

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I would love a Wisconsin game.  The weather is perfect up there this time of year.  We were there during a big game weekend a few years ago and we barhopped downtown during the game.  It was a lot of fun.

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I have doubts the playoff will favor a 3 loss team who played an extra really difficult OOC game over a 2 loss team in a power conference who didn't. 

I wish they would take a page from college basketball and institute mandatory conference matchups for one OOC game, and do it based on the previous season's final comference standings. So every season the SEC, Big 10, Big 12, and ACC play an OOC game against a team that finished in the same spot in one of the other conferences. 

So a given season the SEC and ACC are matched up where the previous year's champions play, the runner ups play, and app the way down the line until one conference runs out of teams. The Big 10 and Big 12 do the same. Then the next season it rotates where the SEC and Big 10 do it, etc.  

That way everybody is playing a power conference team OOC and of similar stature, and the first 4 weeks of the season will be stacked with monster matchups for the fans. 

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