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42 minutes ago, speed817 said:

Killer may be on this thread asking for anything new....

I was about to ask what are the chances the killer/killers have been members of this board?

Also, I'm craving some froyo after watching that. 

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1 hour ago, bschoolprof said:

anything new for the initiated?  

First episode ended with a lengthy interview with one of the mothers that was shot in '09 that was heart-wrenching. The footage was from an unfinished documentary. 

Pretty interesting. 

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This case deeply touched me especially because it happened in the area I grew up and my wife use to get yogurt there all the time before the murders.  I will wait for all episodes to drop before watching.  Never understood how this case didn’t get solved.

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21 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

Never understood how this case didn’t get solved.

Yeah.  It's not like forensics and other investigative means were of stone-age quality in 1991.  They were eventually able to find the killer of Michael Morton's wife, and that happened in 1987.

This case was so horrific that I lived halfway across the country at the time and we heard about this on the news in North Carolina.  

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31 minutes ago, Horn80 said:

This case deeply touched me especially because it happened in the area I grew up and my wife use to get yogurt there all the time before the murders.  I will wait for all episodes to drop before watching.  Never understood how this case didn’t get solved.

 

6 minutes ago, South Austin said:

Yeah.  It's not like forensics and other investigative means were of stone-age quality in 1991.  They were eventually able to find the killer of Michael Morton's wife, and that happened in 1987.

This case was so horrific that I lived halfway across the country at the time and we heard about this on the news in North Carolina.  

They mentioned in the first episode that DNA testing was pretty new at that time.

The biggest problem was the fire and especially the water used to put the fire out. Boatloads of forensic evidence was washed away.

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some nostalgic clips of early 90s Austin brought back a ton of memories.

Oh, and that "we are the world" style tribute song from the Austin musicians.. tuuuuurible.

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Forgot this was coming to HBO but rolled across it last night. Hit record and Mrs C-Man (who loves this shit) and I will start it this week.

This was my freshman year at UT. I remember it being very, very unnerving.

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well I did not grow up in austin but for some dumb reason I had always thought this happened next to campus at the TCBY on mlk/lavaca.  learn something new every day. 

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2 hours ago, TrashMaster G said:

First episode ended with a lengthy interview with one of the mothers that was shot in '09 that was heart-wrenching. The footage was from an unfinished documentary. 

Pretty interesting. 

That was tough to watch. I looked over at my wife after that and she was very upset. We have 2 daughters and one works at a yogurt shop now, so it hit a bit close to home. 
 

I was 11 when it happened and remember the city feeling different afterwards for quite a while. 

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1 hour ago, MissingInAction said:

I was in high school when this happened. Luckily I was 18 or my mother would have locked me in my room until the murderer was found.

Sounds like you don't have an alibi 

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Posted
12 minutes ago, atomheartbevo said:

Was it Lobo that talked about potential coverups?  The whole thing always seemed weird as hell with the cops.

Contaminated crime scene, myopic and biased investigation, questionable and extremely flawed prosecutions. It was a perfect storm of fuckups.  Everyone was in CYA mode in the aftermath destroying any hope for a true investigation.

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5 hours ago, Herpa Derpa said:

Contaminated crime scene, myopic and biased investigation, questionable and extremely flawed prosecutions. It was a perfect storm of fuckups.  Everyone was in CYA mode in the aftermath destroying any hope for a true investigation.

I recall shitty police work with an extremely difficult crime scene, which tracks with all of what you wrote. Sadly too typical in investigations, I recall them getting on a specific, incorrect trail and refusing to move away from it.

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11 hours ago, futureman said:

well I did not grow up in austin but for some dumb reason I had always thought this happened next to campus at the TCBY on mlk/lavaca.  learn something new every day. 

I bet you do

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I’m not enjoying this documentary at all. I suppose that no one is supposed to though. 
 

I guess it’s weird that so many people enjoy murder documentaries.   I hadn’t really thought about it through this lens before. 

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8 hours ago, Herpa Derpa said:

Contaminated crime scene, myopic and biased investigation, questionable and extremely flawed prosecutions. It was a perfect storm of fuckups.  Everyone was in CYA mode in the aftermath destroying any hope for a true investigation.

2 hours ago, BurntEyes said:

I recall shitty police work with an extremely difficult crime scene, which tracks with all of what you wrote. Sadly too typical in investigations, I recall them getting on a specific, incorrect trail and refusing to move away from it.

My feeling always was this was the moment where the small-town charm that Austin tried to hold onto into the early 90s really bit it in the ass.

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1 hour ago, Elvis said:

I’m not enjoying this documentary at all. I suppose that no one is supposed to though. 
I guess it’s weird that so many people enjoy murder documentaries.   I hadn’t really thought about it through this lens before. 

What's the saying...there's two kinds of women, those who enjoy true-crime documentaries and TV shows, and those who enjoy creating content for them.

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As someone whose family went through a scenario where a loved one lost their life tragically and way too soon, this is cathartic. I’m so glad that they’re focusing on these kids lives before they died and how much they were loved. A couple of thoughts: 

1. When the brother mentioned forgetting a little of his sister everyday, gut-wrenching. You try so hard to remember everything, and overtime they become shadows. 
2. What in the actual fuck with the manager and identifying the bodies? That poor, poor woman. 
3. The interview with the mom at the end was devastating. Here you have this person who has tried to be so strong over the years. She’s obviously funny, and a great mother. Then, in having to recount the worst night of her life becomes this ball of grief and pain. It’s so hard to watch. These families have had their lives ripped apart every day since those murders and they still don’t know why. The interview began clumsily, but that was completely engrossing. 
 

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9 hours ago, Elvis said:

I guess it’s weird that so many people enjoy murder documentaries.   I hadn’t really thought about it through this lens before. 

There is indeed a fascination with human depravity, and like everything else, filmmakers, studios, and streaming companies cash in on it.  I went through a period in college when I consumed true crime books, and every now and then I watch a true crime documentary if I can tell that it's well produced.

My wife, though, watches that stuff like it's oxygen.  I heard a report on NPR a few years ago that women in particular are drawn to true crime stories, in particular those that involve crimes against women, because they have a strong empathetic connection to them, especially if they have been the victim of some kind of sexual assault or sexual abuse.

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47 minutes ago, South Austin said:

I heard a report on NPR a few years ago that women in particular are drawn to true crime stories, in particular those that involve crimes against women, because they have a strong empathetic connection to them

And some are just doing research. @Nicole44

 

 

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That ending interview with the mom was so raw. She did an outstanding job conveying what that night was like and what the grief feels like.
 

It’s good the interviewer woman realized how stupid and annoying she was and still is. 

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