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I certainly can’t complain about GT’s plummet in both polls. I’m glad we have a bye week. I hope they spend it making the defense run until they barf up their spleens. Kings performance should have been plenty for a win  

It’s wild that Virginia and GT have one loss each, and they are both N.C. State, and for UVA it doesn’t count as a conference loss. 

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26 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

I remain gruntled that A&M is behind Indiana.  That's lunacy, but I still smile.

Why? They are dominating people. Two top 10 wins with a 10 point win over #3 Oregon. A&Ms best win is a 2 loss ND. Seems fair right now. 

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8 minutes ago, Buzzrock said:

I certainly can’t complain about GT’s plummet in both polls. I’m glad we have a bye week. I hope they spend it making the defense run until they barf up their spleens. Kings performance should have been plenty for a win  

It’s wild that Virginia and GT have one loss each, and they are both N.C. State, and for UVA it doesn’t count as a conference loss. 

Wait, why not?

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Just now, David Dennison said:

Wait, why not?

UVa scheduled its series with NCSU outside the ACC scheduling system to preserve its rivalry after expansion. 
 

I didn’t even know it was much of a rivalry but you learn new things all the time. 

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1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Texas isn’t getting dinged. OU’s just capturing the coveted “best legs” voter demographic. 
 

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Herbie is a douche but I agree that should be a penalty for, reasons.   
 

Seems like only a few years ago people for flagged for not having their knee pads lowered.   I guess this has been going on for a decade now?

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Just now, Jimbob said:

Herbie is a douche but I agree that should be a penalty for, reasons.   
 

Seems like only a few years ago people for flagged for not having their knee pads lowered.   I guess this has been going on for a decade now?

Time to implement an NFL rule of no skin between the belt and shoes. It’s ridiculous, I’m waiting for some dude to visit the volleyball equipment manager. 

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5 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Texas isn’t getting dinged. OU’s just capturing the coveted “best legs” voter demographic. 
 

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2 hours ago, dcar00 said:

I'm guessing behind ND because of loss to 3-6 Florida.

Yeah that sure is a blight on our resume.  What the fuck happened to the D?  But both of our losses were on the road and we have two ranked wins to their one.  We also have it just means more going for us.

I think both teams fall in 10-12 range.

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5 hours ago, satyanash said:

A&M has a bye before they play us. Just the way the scheduling cookie crumbled.

Who has a bye the week before your last game?   You spread them out to heal and rest during the season....but the week before your last game?  Gzzzzzz.

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1 minute ago, Cairn Horn88 said:

Who has a bye the week before your last game?   You spread them out to heal and rest during the season....but the week before your last game?  Gzzzzzz.

Lol they play a FCS team. Basically a bye 

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2 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Time to implement an NFL rule of no skin between the belt and shoes. It’s ridiculous, I’m waiting for some dude to visit the volleyball equipment manager. 

Guess we are lucky he wasn't wearing rugby shorts to kick in!

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It’s really simple - OU won somewhat impressively on the road in prime time against a helmet school.  Meanwhile Texas barely won at home at 11am against Vandy. Texas was up 34-10 and played with their food. Vandy + Florida + OT Kentucky + OT Mississippi State = not the most impressive 2 loss team. 

style points matter, unfortunately. That is unless Texas finishes as a 2 loss team. 

we FA in Gainesville and now we are FO. could still be a 3 loss play off team but not without help. 

sark, stop fucking around. Spread that shit out, put Arch in the gun and sling it around.

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And I would add a 2 loss ND is in we already knew that. While OU ahead of us is frustrating they have bama and we have Georgia on the road same weekend. But we have aggy and they have Missouri and lsu. If we both lose Nov 15 but we beat the Ags we leap ahead of them last week of the season with a better win (if not earlier).

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3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Texas isn’t getting dinged. OU’s just capturing the coveted “best legs” voter demographic. 
 

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8 hours ago, scramblyn said:

It’s really simple - OU won somewhat impressively on the road in prime time against a helmet school.  Meanwhile Texas barely won at home at 11am against Vandy. Texas was up 34-10 and played with their food. Vandy + Florida + OT Kentucky + OT Mississippi State = not the most impressive 2 loss team. 

style points matter, unfortunately. That is unless Texas finishes as a 2 loss team. 

we FA in Gainesville and now we are FO. could still be a 3 loss play off team but not without help. 

sark, stop fucking around. Spread that shit out, put Arch in the gun and sling it around.

Do head to heads not matter?? 
 

of course it does, that’s why Virginia is ranked above Louisville,  except in the case of Texas/Oklahoma.
 

shit doesn’t make sense at all. . These voters are dumb af! 

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3 hours ago, Hank_Hill said:

Well, you’re leaving out the part where we beat the fuck out of OU.

 

10 minutes ago, D3zii said:

Do head to heads not matter?? 
 

of course it does, that’s why Virginia is ranked above Louisville,  except in the case of Texas/Oklahoma.
 

shit doesn’t make sense at all. . These voters are dumb af! 

Y’all act like polls have never done this before, it happens every year, every week, it’s a known aspect of mouth breathing sportswriter stupidity.

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Texas doesn’t get treated like a sec school. Lost by 7 on the road against the number 1 team and played them closer than anyone else so far, lost at Florida and drops out of the top 25. Over the years I’ve seen sec schools lose to other sec schools and not even drop 1 spot. Tennessee has 3 losses and still ranked. It’s bullshit we are behind ousucks but if we win out it won’t stay that way so whatever. 

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3 minutes ago, Rockethorn1978 said:

Texas doesn’t get treated like a sec school. Lost by 7 on the road against the number 1 team and played them closer than anyone else so far, lost at Florida and drops out of the top 25. Over the years I’ve seen sec schools lose to other sec schools and not even drop 1 spot. Tennessee has 3 losses and still ranked. It’s bullshit we are behind ousucks but if we win out it won’t stay that way so whatever. 

This is true partly because assweeds like that Wilner cocksplat have a personal vendetta against Texas and are allowed to keep their vote. AP poll is fucking stupid.  But more broadly I think you’re right. And it’s also like the voters punished Texas for the voters overhyping the horns.

won’t make a shit, win and Texas finishes the regular season a top 7 team. 

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2 minutes ago, scramblyn said:

USA Today projects Texas at 9 and on the road in Lubbock for the first round. 

I'll take it, and that's an intriguing matchup for neutral fans, too.

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One spot in the rankings as tabulated is basically noise once you get past the top five or so. One or two outlier ballots can put a team over another one. It’s not worth going on tilt over and happens every year to different teams.

The only way to correct it, ironically, is to implement an actual media conspiracy via expert or editorial correction to weight or throw out ballots. 

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Its magic how the CFP rankings come out and are based entirely off of people who actually watch football mostly and then the polls magically get much closer to CFP rankings. 

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16 minutes ago, immamac said:

Its magic how the CFP rankings come out and are based entirely off of people who actually watch football mostly and then the polls magically get much closer to CFP rankings. 

I still think the CFP committee uses BCS formula but instead of using the human poll they'd traditionally use they use their rankings. 

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10 minutes ago, Bert Orange said:

You can do magic. You can have anything that you desire. Magic. 

Great...now that damn song will be in my head all day.  Thanks so much.

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1 hour ago, scramblyn said:

USA Today projects Texas at 9 and on the road in Lubbock for the first round. 

with or without a 3rd loss? Can't see them being 9 with another loss.

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3 minutes ago, Bert Orange said:

Allstate playoff predictor says same with a loss to Georgia. 

Well shit Texas at 9 overall with 3 losses?  Can't wait to see that fire storm, lol.

But fuck it...win out and don't give no fucks.

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32 minutes ago, Drew said:

with or without a 3rd loss? Can't see them being 9 with another loss.

If the loss is to GA, we'd have 3 top 10 wins (aggy, OU, vandy) and 2 of our 3 losses would be to top 5-ish teams on the road (Ohio State and Georgia) and the committee would be sending a message that quality OOC opponents matter (as they keep saying) 

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Yeah think ya'll are mistaking me for saying they shouldn't make the playoffs with 3 losses...I absolutely think they'll be in the discussion.  I just would expect them to be like 11 just above the G5 with 3.

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11 hours ago, scramblyn said:

It’s really simple - OU won somewhat impressively on the road in prime time against a helmet school.  Meanwhile Texas barely won at home at 11am against Vandy. Texas was up 34-10 and played with their food. Vandy + Florida + OT Kentucky + OT Mississippi State = not the most impressive 2 loss team. 

style points matter, unfortunately. That is unless Texas finishes as a 2 loss team. 

we FA in Gainesville and now we are FO. could still be a 3 loss play off team but not without help. 

sark, stop fucking around. Spread that shit out, put Arch in the gun and sling it around.

The refs played with our food.  If they just called the PI on Mosely WTH 4 mins remaining, we run more clock & kick a FG.  Voila 2 TD win over top 10 team.  How in the fuck do you miss that call???

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2 minutes ago, cochamps said:

The refs played with our food.  If they just called the PI on Mosely WTH 4 mins remaining, we run more clock & kick a FG.  Voila 2 TD win over top 10 team.  How in the fuck do you miss that call???

Ref fuckery Saturday was weapons grade.  They single-handedly accounted for a 15pt swing in Vandy's favor and preserve the point spread.  It was criminal 

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6 minutes ago, Js1 said:

If the loss is to GA, we'd have 3 top 10 wins (aggy, OU, vandy) and 2 of our 3 losses would be to top 5-ish teams on the road (Ohio State and Georgia) and the committee would be sending a message that quality OOC opponents matter (as they keep saying) 

Correct, this is what it comes down to. A lot of people misunderstand what "not punishing a loss to a good non-conference opponent" means. If you're trying to figure out who should be #8-11 (assuming #12 is a G5 champion) in a 12-team playoff, what does a one score loss on the road at the undefeated #1 team in the nation really mean? It means jack shit, a #8-11 team should lose to the #1 team on the road, and if it's a one score game then that means they played like you'd expect a top 10 team to play.

I mean I'll believe it when I see it but the loss column, which has always been the only thing that mattered in polls, shouldn't be the only thing that matters. If we finish 3-2 in top ten games and have only one subpar loss that is absolutely a top 11 résumé.

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

Correct, this is what it comes down to. A lot of people misunderstand what "not punishing a loss to a good non-conference opponent" means. If you're trying to figure out who should be #8-11 (assuming #12 is a G5 champion) in a 12-team playoff, what does a one score loss on the road at the undefeated #1 team in the nation really mean? It means jack shit, a #8-11 team should lose to the #1 team on the road, and if it's a one score game then that means they played like you'd expect a top 10 team to play.

I mean I'll believe it when I see it but the loss column, which has always been the only thing that mattered in polls, shouldn't be the only thing that matters. If we finish 3-2 in top ten games and have only one subpar loss that is absolutely a top 11 résumé.

I think/hope the committee will explain their reasoning tomorrow with Texas and Ohio State. I agree with the people who feel it will be treated like half a loss - game 1, on the road, defending champs, loss by a TD

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Posted (edited)
48 minutes ago, Drew said:

with or without a 3rd loss? Can't see them being 9 with another loss.

Moment in time I think, so as of tomorrow. I could be wrong 

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As a thought exercise imagine a scenario where a team plays the top 12 (other) teams in the nation for their entire season schedule. Assume all games are decided by exactly a field goal. What should their record have to be to "deserve" to be in the 12-team playoff? Additionally, assume that whatever record you pick, their results match the rankings of the opponents. So if you say 9-3 that means they only lost to the #1, #2, and #3 teams and beat #4-12.

If you were looking strictly at what power ratings would say and wanting the top 12 teams in the playoff you could make an argument that 2-10 is good enough. Because based on their results the only thing you can guess objectively is they are the #11 team in the nation. They only lost to #1-10 and they beat #11 and #12.

Obviously that would feel absurd though. But I would absolutely argue for a 6-6 team with that schedule to get into the playoff.

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11 hours ago, scramblyn said:

It’s really simple - OU won somewhat impressively on the road in prime time against a helmet school.  Meanwhile Texas barely won at home at 11am against Vandy.

Let's inject some facts here.  OU beat #14 by 6 on the road, Texas beat #9 by 3 at home.  Not a lot of difference there.

Moreover, we were ranked behind OU before Saturday's games, with a better strength of schedule and a head to head beatdown, so your assertion above is irrelevant.

And yes, the polls mean nothing.  The CFP rankings will be interesting, and I'd be surprised if we don't flip spots with OU there.

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13 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Ref fuckery Saturday was weapons grade.  They single-handedly accounted for a 15pt swing in Vandy's favor and preserve the point spread.  It was criminal 

I get that the refs were shit, and I agree. But letting Pavia run 25 yards untouched to the endzone and then having a 1-play 68 yard drive for another touchdown in the next possession kept that score closer to the spread. And we need to fix that shit. If our DBs were healthy and not letting Vandy's only star receiver/TE run down the sideline untouched for 68 yards, maybe we keep the 2 possession win. I don't think that's too much to ask, refs or not. 

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8 minutes ago, jimmyjazz said:

Let's inject some facts here.  OU beat #14 by 6 on the road, Texas beat #9 by 3 at home.  Not a lot of difference there.

Moreover, we were ranked behind OU before Saturday's games, with a better strength of schedule and a head to head beatdown, so your assertion above is irrelevant.

And yes, the polls mean nothing.  The CFP rankings will be interesting, and I'd be surprised if we don't flip spots with OU there.

Garbage time TDs and points for vandy they watched. They know it was a blowout and refs gambling fixed it to the line. 

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5 minutes ago, BurdineBandit said:

I get that the refs were shit, and I agree. But letting Pavia run 25 yards untouched to the endzone and then having a 1-play 68 yard drive for another touchdown in the next possession kept that score closer to the spread. And we need to fix that shit. If our DBs were healthy and not letting Vandy's only star receiver/TE run down the sideline untouched for 68 yards, maybe we keep the 2 possession win. I don't think that's too much to ask, refs or not. 

agreed on the pass (blown coverage) but the run should have been called back for holding. It's a big reason he was able to pull that off.

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