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1 hour ago, Pig Bellmont said:

He’s trolling. “DC is safer, also I don’t live there”. He’s fucking with you and all of us. We all read how the new US attorney in DC won’t charge people for carrying assault weapons and we’re watching the deployment of US military- not in SE, NE, or Anacostia - but to monuments and tourist spots. Everyone who has two brain cells knows this isn’t about crime.
 

Oh but don’t say how many federal agents that refuse to identify themselves act like a police force that’s secret. Bc if you accurately compare their actions to SS and Nazis then that’s somehow proving you just don’t understand how to debate anyone.

Just baiting and bomb throwing bullshit. Next he’ll probably post about trans people in the military 

Anyways, people need to get better at ignoring trolls

Maybe. This guy posts so much stupid shit on here, I also struggle to believe it's not an act just to rile people up.  Then I remember who was twice elected to office, and it becomes more believable that people are this misinformed and proudly belligerent about it.  The current state of education in this country is likely to exacerbate this problem, rather than alleviate it.

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Posted
11 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

Due process is sort of necessary in order to determine whether a person is a citizen or not in the first place.

Yeah....for emphasis.

Taking the position that "non-citizens" don't get due process is as ludicrous as saying "people guilty of a crime don't get due process."  You can't tell which side of the line those people are on....until you make a determination....that can only be accomplished via....DUE PROCESS.

Otherwise, all the admin has to do is unilterally declare that DalTx is not a citizen, nab him, toss him on a plane, and bury him at CECOT for the rest of his life.  Arguing his position is as dumb as it fucking gets, but "as dumb as it fucking gets" is absolutely the name for our current timeline, so here we are.

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Posted
20 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

Yeah....for emphasis.

Taking the position that "non-citizens" don't get due process is as ludicrous as saying "people guilty of a crime don't get due process."  You can't tell which side of the line those people are on....until you make a determination....that can only be accomplished via....DUE PROCESS.

Otherwise, all the admin has to do is unilterally declare that DalTx is not a citizen, nab him, toss him on a plane, and bury him at CECOT for the rest of his life.  Arguing his position is as dumb as it fucking gets, but "as dumb as it fucking gets" is absolutely the name for our current timeline, so here we are.

It's doubly dumb because being here "illegally" isn't even a crime, it's a fucking civil matter.

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Posted
22 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's doubly dumb because being here "illegally" isn't even a crime, it's a fucking civil matter.

No, no, being here illegally is the worst crime you can possible commit against the United States

Not inciting a riot against elected officials to overturn the results of an election, not draining US taxpayers to enrich your friends and family, not using foreign policy and foreign aid to illicit damaging information to use against your election opponent, not rewarding a private citizen for fucking with voter rolls with government contracts

Where was I gong with this again? 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's doubly dumb because being here "illegally" isn't even a crime, it's a fucking civil matter.

And we know it's a politically charged issue not because of laws, but because of races.

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Posted
On 8/18/2025 at 3:53 AM, Stringer said:

So, you’re pro a nationalized police force? Is that constitutional?

"Yes" - The Supreme Court of the United States, brought to you by Donald Trump. 

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On 8/19/2025 at 12:29 PM, Beau Vine said:

No, I'm afraid he really is this stupid.

I rest my case:

18 hours ago, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

 

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On 8/20/2025 at 12:28 AM, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

You claim to be an attorney correct?

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Posted
On 8/20/2025 at 8:36 AM, DalTxHornFan said:

Love debate on merits.  Ad hominem is very weak.

 

On 8/20/2025 at 12:28 AM, DalTxHornFan said:

Yeah, we have been doing that drill for years.  Non-citizens have no due process.  Economic cases have no basis for amnesty.  Cloward-Piven strategy at work. No thank you. 

 

On 8/20/2025 at 12:38 AM, DalTxHornFan said:

You sound really silly.  But thanks for playing.


 

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Posted (edited)
20 hours ago, Brian Fantana said:

It's doubly dumb because being here "illegally" isn't even a crime, it's a fucking civil matter.

In yet another facet of our fucked-up immigration policy, first time unlawful or improper entry into the United States is indeed a crime, albeit a misdemeanor.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

Second and subsequent unlawful entries are a minor felony.

You are correct that the process of removing or deporting unlawful entrants is a civil matter, but it can also result in criminal charges.

Historically, though, we have not criminally charged first-time or even second-time unlawful entrants.  Only chronic re-enterers get charged criminally.

22 minutes ago, Sawbonz said:

You claim to be an attorney correct?

No, a financial consultant that does a lot of expert witness work.

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Posted
9 minutes ago, ChickenSandwich said:

No homicides in DC for the last 7 days seems like a good thing.

What about having a pedo covering up for other pedo's as president, is that a good thing?

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Posted
6 minutes ago, elguapo said:

What about having a pedo covering up for other pedo's as president, is that a good thing?

Look man, if I have to support a pedophile to make sure that federal troops get sent in to police Georgetown, you'd better believe I'm game.

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Posted (edited)
5 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

In yet another facet of our fucked-up immigration policy, first time unlawful or improper entry into the United States is indeed a crime, albeit a misdemeanor.  https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1325

Second and subsequent unlawful entries are a minor felony.

You are correct that the process of removing or deporting unlawful entrants is a civil matter, but it can also result in criminal charges.

Historically, though, we have not criminally charged first-time or even second-time unlawful entrants.  Only chronic re-enterers get charged criminally.

No, a financial consultant that does a lot of expert witness work.

U.S. penalties, on paper and as applied, for unauthorized entry are among the most lenient in the world and are not even close to the top of why immigration policy is awful. Basic border control and immigrant screening is a simple state capacity and security issue and a longstanding policy choice not to really do it is a big reason you’ve seen this incredible backlash.

Immigration policy is broken because it hasn’t been seriously tackled in decades and so it reflects old realities and there has been no democratic process around it and a (correct) vibe that the system does not serve either desirable potential immigrants or U.S. citizens and workers but rather relatively small pockets of self-interest. 
 

The portion of America that’s foreign born is higher than it has been since the early 20th century, which coincided with another big nativist backlash. This was absolutely inevitable and foreseeable, Americans are not unique in having these sentiments, and it’s really been a failure to sensibly manage migration flows in a way that balances interests and rights that caused it. 

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15 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

U.S. penalties, on paper and as applied, for unauthorized entry are among the most lenient in the world and are not even close to the top of why immigration policy is awful. Basic border control and immigrant screening is a simple state capacity and security issue and a longstanding policy choice not to really do it is a big reason you’ve seen this incredible backlash.

Immigration policy is broken because it hasn’t been seriously tackled in decades and so it reflects old realities and there has been no democratic process around it and a (correct) vibe that the system does not serve either desirable potential immigrants or U.S. citizens and workers but rather relatively small pockets of self-interest. 
 

The portion of America that’s foreign born is higher than it has been since the early 20th century, which coincided with another big nativist backlash. This was absolutely inevitable and foreseeable, Americans are not unique in having these sentiments, and it’s really been a failure to sensibly manage migration flows in a way that balances interests and rights that caused it. 

Well, I consider having a law that is alternately enforced or not enforced, according to whim of administration to be fucked up and symbolic of a legal scheme that is in bad need of reform. But it's not the biggest fucked up thing, no, you're right there.

It appears that a lot of the world is pretty similar to the US, though, misdemeanor first offense, often not enforced, and harsher penalties for repeat offenders.  https://www.hsdl.org/?view&did=829757

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Posted
On 8/20/2025 at 11:50 AM, Brian Fantana said:

It's doubly dumb because being here "illegally" isn't even a crime, it's a fucking civil matter.

Title 8 of the U.S. Code, Section 1325, which classifies improper entry by an alien as a misdemeanor for a first offense, punishable by up to six months in prison, a fine, or both. Repeat offenses can be charged as a felony, with penalties up to two years in prison.

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1 minute ago, Thetexashammer said:

Title 8 of the U.S. Code, Section 1325, which classifies improper entry by an alien as a misdemeanor for a first offense, punishable by up to six months in prison, a fine, or both. Repeat offenses can be charged as a felony, with penalties up to two years in prison.

Where in his quote does he talk about an action this statue prohibits?

I'll help you out: it doesn't. Being here "illegaly" is what he talked about. Presence in this country without authorization MAY be the result of a criminal act, but is itself, with no other information at hand, not a crime. If no other information can be ascertained, then only civil actions and remedies can be brought to bear. For a look into the reality of how this plays out, see TH's post above, #320. I point this out to show you that your comment, while not only being a textbook example of misapplication of law to facts, is also totally unneccessary and redundant.

Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, Thetexashammer said:

Title 8 of the U.S. Code, Section 1325, which classifies improper entry by an alien as a misdemeanor for a first offense, punishable by up to six months in prison, a fine, or both. Repeat offenses can be charged as a felony, with penalties up to two years in prison.

but you agree that if the government suspects someone on the street of being guilty of improper entry, that person has no right to due process, no right to see a judge, no right to present evidence of lawful entry or legal status, and can be summarily rendered to 3rd world torture sites, right?

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Posted (edited)
1 hour ago, softlynow said:

Where in his quote does he talk about an action this statue prohibits?

I'll help you out: it doesn't. Being here "illegaly" is what he talked about. Presence in this country without authorization MAY be the result of a criminal act, but is itself, with no other information at hand, not a crime. If no other information can be ascertained, then only civil actions and remedies can be brought to bear. For a look into the reality of how this plays out, see TH's post above, #320. I point this out to show you that your comment, while not only being a textbook example of misapplication of law to facts, is also totally unneccessary and redundant.

Sure, simply being is not a crime. I can be, you can be, anyone can be. None of that is criminal Except when the "being" came about as the result of a felony and is therefore not a civil matter.

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5 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Sure, simply being is not a crime. I can be, you can be, anyone can be. None of that is criminal Except when the "being" came about as the result of a felony and is therefore not a civil matter.

Wow I didn't know you wanted to deport the first lady, falsifying visas is deadly serious business 

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Posted
26 minutes ago, Thetexashammer said:

Sure, simply being is not a crime. I can be, you can be, anyone can be. None of that is criminal Except when the "being" came about as the result of a felony and is therefore not a civil matter.

Hey, shit for brains:

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41,822 out of 59,380—or 70.4% held in ICE detention have no criminal conviction according to data current as of August 10, 2025

https://tracreports.org/immigration/quickfacts/

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Posted
3 hours ago, 956 Worldwide said:

U.S. penalties, on paper and as applied, for unauthorized entry are among the most lenient in the world and are not even close to the top of why immigration policy is awful. Basic border control and immigrant screening is a simple state capacity and security issue and a longstanding policy choice not to really do it is a big reason you’ve seen this incredible backlash.

Immigration policy is broken because it hasn’t been seriously tackled in decades and so it reflects old realities and there has been no democratic process around it and a (correct) vibe that the system does not serve either desirable potential immigrants or U.S. citizens and workers but rather relatively small pockets of self-interest. 

The portion of America that’s foreign born is higher than it has been since the early 20th century, which coincided with another big nativist backlash. This was absolutely inevitable and foreseeable, Americans are not unique in having these sentiments, and it’s really been a failure to sensibly manage migration flows in a way that balances interests and rights that caused it. 

Our immigration laws/policy is what it is because too many American companies would go under if they lost their cheap labor, along with Americans who individually love being able to get cheap labor to mow their lawns, put on new roofs, bang their wives after cleaning the pool, etc. Neither party is interested in calling out these business interests or Americans who are paying for cheap lawn care under the table, nor are they interested in making policy changes.  For all of Trump’s bluster, this will eventually fade and things will go back to the way they were.  People want cheap food and cheap labor and people like Trump especially need cheap manual labor.

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Posted (edited)
4 hours ago, elguapo said:

What about having a pedo covering up for other pedo's as president, is that a good thing?

For the record, @ChickenSandwich apparently can’t answer the very basic question of whether he thinks our pedo president protecting himself and his pedo friends is a good thing or not. 

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Posted
6 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

No homicides in DC for the last 7 days seems like a good thing.

any barking from the dog? What about smog? What did mama cook for breakfast?

Posted
6 hours ago, ChickenSandwich said:

No homicides in DC for the last 7 days seems like a good thing.

Is that true? I’m actually impressed. 

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