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5 hours ago, hornian said:

I read this article on the Texas Tribune about an A&MDean getting fired for not forcing a professor to toe the line and teach that LGBT people exist. 

https://www.texastribune.org/2025/09/08/texas-am-video-professor-student-gender-identity-content/

Putting aside the politics of it, my main take away is that this is because some 18-22 year old undergrad got his or her or their (see what I did there?) feels hurt.
 

I kind of expect this from the older generation. But Gen Z? Being so butt hurt that someone expressed a differnt worldview that they film it and post it online and actively try to get other professor fired? That was surprising to me.  Very Karen-esque energy. 

Because they were raised by Gen Xers, possibly the worst generation ever 

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I can also recall being in high school in the late 2000s/early 2010s. Maybe it was my bubble but most guys I knew just cared about sports, video games, and girls. For fun we’d watch dumb YouTube vids and just hangout or drive around outside. Young males nowadays seem to care about sports, video games, weightlifting, and listening to podcasts. It’s not stigmatized at all to be a virgin (which isn’t a bad thing), it’s not cool to drink or do drugs (also not a bad thing), but damn if you spent all day watching red-pill videos and listening to political podcasts back in my day you were definitely some dweeb loser. That’s not the case at all today. 

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18 minutes ago, Helobious said:

but damn if you spent all day watching red-pill videos and listening to political podcasts back in my day you were definitely some dweeb loser. That’s not the case at all today. 

Nah you still are you just don't know it because you're still in a bubble.

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49 minutes ago, Helobious said:

If I go on Instagram or tiktok or X, it’s wall to wall conservative vids with insanely high views, likes, and comments. It’s all young people driving up those numbers. The demonization of young men and cancel culture has all helped make Gen Z maybe the most conservative generation of all time.

You're in the same conservative bubble as all those young boys, that's driven and reinforced by algorithmic content recommendations.

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Posted
4 hours ago, Texas Fight said:

You don’t want to make it political but you write crap like this. You seem to be part of the problem.

I’ll try to say this as apolitically as possible:  you are a moron. If you knock anyone up I’ll go halves on the abortion (and the flight if you live in Texas)

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32 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Because they were raised by Gen Xers, possibly the worst generation ever 

Boomers win that in a landslide.  If for no other reason than there are so damned many of them.

And what boomers did to GenX makes what GenX did to their children pale by comparison.

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10 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're in the same conservative bubble as all those young boys, that's driven and reinforced by algorithmic content recommendations.

And young men are no more demonized than white people generally.

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1 hour ago, Texas Fight said:

The class is Children’s Literature. Aka, Kiddie Lit. The class is not biology, political current events, or social studies, or some other course that is meant to debate men/women or social topics. It’s kids books. 

No where in that article does is say, “fired for not forcing a professor to toe the line and teach that LGBT people exist.”  No one anywhere has said lesbians don’t exist. 

 

Q.E.D.

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10 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're in the same conservative bubble as all those young boys, that's driven and reinforced by algorithmic content recommendations.

Yep.  The issue is Gen Z men, not Gen Z women

The growing ideological divide between Gen Z men and women

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Posted (edited)

Some Bible thumper piece of shit got their fee fees hurt about one or more of the texts, picked by the professor, and cried to the dean, got nowhere, and took it to general dip shit who used the nuclear option.

 

 

 

Note this post directly deals with current events with a Texas (albeit A&M) slant

 

 

 

Fuck off if you don’t like it 

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Just now, Js1 said:

Yep.  The issue is Gen Z men, not Gen Z women

The growing ideological divide between Gen Z men and women

And...if you want to look into the issue of "young men aren't getting laid nearly as much," that graph plays no small part.  Shockingly, women....particularly liberal women, aren't too keen on sleeping with retrograde misogynists who believe that women should be trad-wives and submit to their male betters.

Back to the baseline rule we would all be best served by: don't be a dick.  Just....don't be a dick.  You'll get laid more, you'll enjoy your job more, you'll have more friends (who are also less likely to be dicks).  Being a dick opens the door to just one thing: being liked by and friends with....other dicks.  We have an information ecosystem that tells young men that THE way to be manly is "be a dick," and it turns out that the downsides of that approach just makes people angrier, more frustrated, and more likely to be even more of a dick.

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14 minutes ago, Captainant said:

You're in the same conservative bubble as all those young boys, that's driven and reinforced by algorithmic content recommendations.

 

3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

Yep.  The issue is Gen Z men, not Gen Z women

The growing ideological divide between Gen Z men and women

What's the issue? Men have stayed constant over 25 years. The significant change is with women.

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Posted
Just now, Laguna said:

 

What's the issue? Men have stayed constant over 25 years. The significant change is with women.

I truly am not trying to CR this....but look when that upswing really kicked into gear.  And think about what's been said to and about women by defining leadership in this country since then, and what has actually happened to women and their rights in that timeframe.

Shitting on people and telling them that they are second-class citizens tends to get a reaction from them.

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17 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

And young men are no more demonized than white people generally.

Well, that's pretty bad then, because no one has it harder than the Whites.

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Posted

LOL "hey uh, anyone know what was happening culturally, politically and societally in this country around 2014/15/16? Nobody? Hm.... can't put my finger on it" 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Brisketexan said:

A lot of this.  See @DDD Dad, who IIRC was active in the Fed Soc in law school....and these days, is quite opposed to their actions, mission, etc.

Interesting way to tell us you TRIED to have an inappropriate relationship with a pretty young coed, but none were interested.  SAD.

Correct.  I actually was the founding member and first president of my chapter at UF Law.

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36 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

And...if you want to look into the issue of "young men aren't getting laid nearly as much," that graph plays no small part.  Shockingly, women....particularly liberal women, aren't too keen on sleeping with retrograde misogynists who believe that women should be trad-wives and submit to their male betters.

Back to the baseline rule we would all be best served by: don't be a dick.  Just....don't be a dick.  You'll get laid more, you'll enjoy your job more, you'll have more friends (who are also less likely to be dicks).  Being a dick opens the door to just one thing: being liked by and friends with....other dicks.  We have an information ecosystem that tells young men that THE way to be manly is "be a dick," and it turns out that the downsides of that approach just makes people angrier, more frustrated, and more likely to be even more of a dick.

I think as usual it's more nuanced than the thesis' you tend to codify and cement your thinking around (no offense, just a pattern): 

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The virgin allegations emerged about a decade ago. Young people “are so sexually inactive that it practically boggles the mind,” a writer for Bustle proclaimed, in 2016, invoking a then recent study that suggested that celibacy had lately doubled among people in their early twenties. Two years later, The Atlantic gave this evident trend its working name, with a cover story on “The Sex Recession.” (The illustration: a bird and a bee turned away from each other, looking both sullen and shy.) The youth had stopped fucking. They were a “new generation of prigs, prudes, and squares,” a blog declared; they were “anxious, lonely and addicted to porn,” according to the Telegraph. They were dragging the rest of the population down with them, the Washington Post argued, blaming the “Great American Sex Drought” on young people, and particularly young men, for being losers, more or less—having no girlfriends, living with their parents, preferring video games and social media to real, live, naked bodies.

The pandemic didn’t help: in 2021, nearly forty per cent of Californians aged eighteen to thirty had had no sexual partners the previous year.

The Zoomer sex recession is puzzling in part because sex has seemingly never been less stigmatized or easier to procure. The electronic devices in our pockets contain not only a vast universe of free porn but also apps on which casual sex can be arranged as efficiently as a burrito delivery from DoorDash. Today, it is a mainstream view that desire isn’t shameful, that kinks can be healthy, that a man should make an effort to give a woman an orgasm, that people can do what they want in the bedroom as long as everyone involved is pleased. And yet, presented with a Vegas buffet of carnality, young people are losing their appetite. How should we understand this? And what, if anything, should we do?

 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/30/the-case-against-the-sexual-revolution-louise-perry-book-review-the-second-coming-carter-sherman

Posted
8 minutes ago, Vegas64 said:

I think as usual it's more nuanced than the thesis' you tend to codify and cement your thinking around (no offense, just a pattern): 

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2025/06/30/the-case-against-the-sexual-revolution-louise-perry-book-review-the-second-coming-carter-sherman

Never said it's the only thing, just that it's a part.  As with most every social issue, it's a complex picture, many parts of which we aren't even close to understanding.  For example, I think that the ubiquity of porn -- and graphic porn -- has a part to play.  I've read things about young men's expectations of sex, and what it should be like, and what their partner should be like, that make my jaw drop.  Yeah, if that's how you think it should be, I could see how the clash of your expectations and the reality of who willing partners might be creates some issues.  And that's just one dimension of the problem.

But as to the particular element I mentioned, as someone with a son (with peers and friends of both genders) from that generation, I've heard it first hand.  In shorthand, the girls say out loud that guys who are Andrew Tate disciples (to use a shorthand for that ethos/approach) are an immediate no-go.  And from the boy's perspective . . . NOT being one of those puts him a class ahead, and the pickings are easy.  And yes, these are necessarily generalities, exceptions abound.

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Going to college used to be a Rumspringa for our young.

Go out to the world for 4 years and be quasi-autonomous and independent.

Go explore.

Try on new ideas and new strategies, learn new things, stretch yourselves and experience things in a quasi-safe place. It typically has a beginning and an end, and you will be better, more well-rounded and thoughtful for the wear. Maybe some things get unlocked or perhaps you just get to validate and reinforce some things you held dear already. Whatever. The point is to actually engage in experience(s).

In a digital world dominated by online, parasocial and social media relationships where life is experienced through screens (even a lot of classes via zoom, apparently), we've lost a lot of the experiential aspects of college I think.

And with the lose of real life, physical experiences I think we've lost the critical mass aspects that now, in a sort of vicious cycle, make those experiences more risky and dangerous. 

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The thread title seems to presuppose that young people now are more intolerant than young people used to be.  

People -- young, old, and middle-aged -- have always been intolerant of people who look, talk, walk, smell, or seem different in just about any way.

You might be more aware of it now because of the omnipresence of social media and cameras in everyone's pocket.  But there's nothing new or surprising about this.

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Posted
34 minutes ago, Foosters said:

listen to this bitch "our president proclaimed that there are only two genders so this is illegal."

h/t @Michael Knight

What a miserable cunt. A&M should be ashamed of itself, but alas they are not.

Posted
20 minutes ago, TexArcher said:

People -- young, old, and middle-aged -- have always been intolerant of people who look, talk, walk, smell, or seem different in just about any way.

I do not abide smelly people. 

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Posted
2 hours ago, Texas Fight said:

My stance is that the OP made up an inflammatory summary of the situation, calls out a generation of the population for some mental issue, and then says he doesn’t want to make this thread political. I think he is part of the problem. 

Your stance is just flat out wrong. I read the article. I summarized it. My summary was correct.

Now, you are twisting that into an "inflammatory summary of the situation" when all of the information you've been provided shows that the summary was in fact correct. And the only reason you find it to be inflammatory is because of made up reasons like "this is kiddie lit there's no need to discuss gender" when the syllabus that was posted shows that the class was intended to have a review of gender in the course, and the stated reason for firing was discussing gender. 

If the summary of these facts is "inflammatory,"  it's because of your opinion of the facts. Which is fine, have your own opinion.

Also, LOL to your "summary" of my OP calling out a "generation of the population for some mental issue" when I literally started the thread comparing Gen-Z to Karens. I'm pretty sure being a Karen is not a "mental issue" (other than being entitled, but I don't think you'll find that as a diagnosis in the DSM). 

 

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This is only partially related, but it brings up something that has been bothering me for a long time in my boys' peer groups and social media shithole, which is the rise of casual racism as a hilarious joke.

I'm still wrestling with it, and in some ways it's similar to the shock humor I grew up with in terms of dead baby jokes, Garbage Pail Kids, and Andrew Dice Clay.  Maybe I'm just showing that I'm an old, but it makes me very uncomfortable and concerned, and I try to explain that to them.

On the one hand, I can hope that on a generational level, maybe it's "meta" and such behavior from previous generations (particularly their grandparents') is so ludicrous as to be amusing to them in an ironic way.  So in one way, they think they're done with racism as a serious mode of thought, and feel comfortable having a laugh at that.  /sweetsummerchild.gif

On the other, that requires that the recipient be aware and intelligent enough to recognize it as such -- not instilling a whole lot of confidence in me.  Mine are smart enough to get that but have grown up in a relatively small town without a lot of diversity, so it's been on me to help them to understand that a portion of their peer group can't make that distinction, and that their minority friends get stuck in the position of trying to laugh it off, but also having to know that segment of their "friends" goes home to see those attitudes modeled in a very real and unironic way.

It just worries me that it gives them false confidence that the world they're going into has gotten over it, and it softens their resistance to racism by blurring the lines of what's "acceptable" humor and what's a foothold for things that we taught them were unacceptable.

Well, look at me, I'm ramblin' again.  These are ill-formed thoughts, but it's been making me uncomfortable and giving me, as they would say, the ick.

I should have just said that yes, social media is the worst, and also, the dismal tide.

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Posted
1 hour ago, Js1 said:

LOL "hey uh, anyone know what was happening culturally, politically and societally in this country around 2014/15/16? Nobody? Hm.... can't put my finger on it" 

2014/15? 

Anyway, yes this is all pendulum swinging stuff. Can anyone think of any taboo speech over the last several years, before last November?

 

All this stuff goes way back. Tweet is from 2023. Has no one seen PCU?

 

 

 

Posted
4 minutes ago, Laguna said:

2014/15? 

Anyway, yes this is all pendulum swinging stuff. Can anyone think of any taboo speech over the last several years, before last November?

 

All this stuff goes way back. Tweet is from 2023. Has no one seen PCU?

 

 

 

Dude you're quoting a clearly partisan "anti-woke" organization as some sort of reasonable source. Their website has a hotline to "blow the whistle on DEI". I thought pronghorn was banned?

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Posted
40 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The younger people killed tablecloths, cursive, printers and copiers, alcohol and sex

Most powerful 

It's kind of funny though, how things are cyclical.  There's a current growing trend among young homeowners, to add in all sorts of fancy decorations-- to create a curated space of maximalist possession.  It seems to me, to be an attempt to connect to the past.  They're putting in faux moldings and antique furniture and doilies and, yes, tablecloths!  They're also hand-writing letters and invitations in cursive, or even calligraphy.  

Who knows, maybe alcohol and sex will make a comeback, too.

Hopefully we won't forever be stuck with this:

Apparently vaping wedding photos are now are thing and I'm not sure why  😂😬🤯

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3 minutes ago, utee94 said:

It's kind of funny though, how things are cyclical.  There's a current growing trend among young homeowners, to add in all sorts of fancy decorations-- to create a curated space of maximalist possession.  It seems to me, to be an attempt to connect to the past.  They're putting in faux moldings and antique furniture and doilies and, yes, tablecloths!  They're also hand-writing letters and invitations in cursive, or even calligraphy.  

Who knows, maybe alcohol and sex will make a comeback, too.

Hopefully we won't forever be stuck with this:

Apparently vaping wedding photos are now are thing and I'm not sure why  😂😬🤯

Wat

Posted
48 minutes ago, Js1 said:

The younger people killed tablecloths, cursive, printers and copiers, alcohol and sex

Most powerful 

Did they kill plastic straws? I feel like that was a self-own. 

Posted

Big surprise.

Gov. Greg Abbott calls for Texas A&M University to fire professor for gender lesson in viral video

Gov. Greg Abbott urged Texas A&M University to fire a professor who told a student to leave class after they raised objections over a lesson involving gender identity.

Posted
4 minutes ago, Damor said:

This is only partially related, but it brings up something that has been bothering me for a long time in my boys' peer groups and social media shithole, which is the rise of casual racism as a hilarious joke.

I'm still wrestling with it, and in some ways it's similar to the shock humor I grew up with in terms of dead baby jokes, Garbage Pail Kids, and Andrew Dice Clay.  Maybe I'm just showing that I'm an old, but it makes me very uncomfortable and concerned, and I try to explain that to them.

On the one hand, I can hope that on a generational level, maybe it's "meta" and such behavior from previous generations (particularly their grandparents') is so ludicrous as to be amusing to them in an ironic way.  So in one way, they think they're done with racism as a serious mode of thought, and feel comfortable having a laugh at that.  /sweetsummerchild.gif

On the other, that requires that the recipient be aware and intelligent enough to recognize it as such -- not instilling a whole lot of confidence in me.  Mine are smart enough to get that but have grown up in a relatively small town without a lot of diversity, so it's been on me to help them to understand that a portion of their peer group can't make that distinction, and that their minority friends get stuck in the position of trying to laugh it off, but also having to know that segment of their "friends" goes home to see those attitudes modeled in a very real and unironic way.

It just worries me that it gives them false confidence that the world they're going into has gotten over it, and it softens their resistance to racism by blurring the lines of what's "acceptable" humor and what's a foothold for things that we taught them were unacceptable.

Well, look at me, I'm ramblin' again.  These are ill-formed thoughts, but it's been making me uncomfortable and giving me, as they would say, the ick.

I should have just said that yes, social media is the worst, and also, the dismal tide.

I might get some push back on this but I think it's important to draw a distinction between racial humor and racism. Racial humor is fine, as long as it's actually funny, isn't punching down, isn't mean spirited, and isn't leaning into actually harmful stereotypes. The same goes with things like LGBT topics and beyond.

A good example, I think, is Dave Chappelle's recent "jokes" about trans people. He thought people were yelling at him about making jokes about trans people in general, and cried like a little bitch about being cancelled (while raking in millions from Netflix specials, mind you).

Contrary to popular belief, you can actually make jokes about trans people, trans people will laugh at them, and [almost] no one will yell at you as long as they are funny and good natured. The problem with his jokes is not that he was making trans jokes. The issue was that his jokes were lazy, unfunny, and basically just amounted to "Hey, trans people are weird right? LOL!!!!!" with no thought or imagination beyond that.

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10 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Dude you're quoting a clearly partisan "anti-woke" organization as some sort of reasonable source. Their website has a hotline to "blow the whistle on DEI". I thought pronghorn was banned?

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And? You need to relax. I didn't claim it as a "source". I didn't say to click on the account or anything. I was just sharing the movie clip. I searched for PCU on twitter. Grow up.

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10 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Dude you're quoting a clearly partisan "anti-woke" organization as some sort of reasonable source. Their website has a hotline to "blow the whistle on DEI". I thought pronghorn was banned?

I don't think prong was ever banned, I think he just kept fedposting and posting agitprop until the election and then fucked off immediately afterward. That was a fascinating account, almost certainly either a Russian drama farmer or an actual fed. The pedo bait thing he pulled in IPIHB makes me lean toward the latter.

Posted
2 hours ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Because they were raised by Gen Xers, possibly the worst generation ever 

We don't give a fuck what you think about us. 

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13 minutes ago, Brian Fantana said:

I might get some push back on this but I think it's important to draw a distinction between racial humor and racism. Racial humor is fine, as long as it's actually funny, isn't punching down, isn't mean spirited, and isn't leaning into actually harmful stereotypes. The same goes with things like LGBT topics and beyond.

A good example, I think, is Dave Chappelle's recent "jokes" about trans people. He thought people were yelling at him about making jokes about trans people in general, and cried like a little bitch about being cancelled (while raking in millions from Netflix specials, mind you).

Contrary to popular belief, you can actually make jokes about trans people, trans people will laugh at them, and [almost] no one will yell at you as long as they are funny and good natured. The problem with his jokes is not that he was making trans jokes. The issue was that his jokes were lazy, unfunny, and basically just amounted to "Hey, trans people are weird right? LOL!!!!!" with no thought or imagination beyond that.

I don't disagree with you in principle, and my poorly organized thoughts don't convey it well, but I am mentally picturing the flood of brain rot on TikTok and what's considered within bounds to shout at your derrrp buddies while playing Helldivers.

A "professional" comedian who will be held accountable socially and economically for their hot takes is another fair issue for discussion, but not what I was envisioning, but thank you, as I was very unclear.

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Posted
23 minutes ago, royiv said:

Big surprise.

Gov. Greg Abbott calls for Texas A&M University to fire professor for gender lesson in viral video

Gov. Greg Abbott urged Texas A&M University to fire a professor who told a student to leave class after they raised objections over a lesson involving gender identity.

They'd have fired that professor even more quickly if they'd been black. 

Posted (edited)
37 minutes ago, royiv said:

Big surprise.

Gov. Greg Abbott calls for Texas A&M University to fire professor for gender lesson in viral video

Gov. Greg Abbott urged Texas A&M University to fire a professor who told a student to leave class after they raised objections over a lesson involving gender identity.

She was asked to leave class. One class. For one day. And for good reason as at the core of it, she was interrupting the learning of other students. And now you want to take away the professor's job?

Fuck this shit. Fuck this place.

Edit: They are removing the professor b/c she didn't follow the course syllabus to a T (b/c surely all courses follow their syllabus like a how to manual). But that's not even what the Karen Aggy was complaining about! I highly doubt she even read the syllabus.

Again... Fuck this shit. Fuck this place.

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