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2 hours ago, Incredulity said:

The fuck are you talking about?  The AI slop you posted literally says mass shootings aren’t “gang” violence but “community” violence, which it then states includes “gang” violence.

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Just admit you were wrong.  You spouted shit and it wasn't true.  It doesn't mean you're a bad person or you did it intentionally.  But any intelligent person can discern that gang violence isn't a broad term in any way, shape or form.  We actually have specific laws in this state (that are in no way unique) that enhance crimes committed by criminal street gangs.  It's not the same thing.  It is something very specific.  

 

But call it "AI slop" (otherwise known as a useful tool for gathering information that disproved your suspect post in mere seconds) and pretend you didn't mean "gang violence" when you said "gang violaence" because you simply can't accept that you were passing along bullshit as truth.

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Just now, HOOKEM4 said:

After we prayed together, all I have to say is this, political violence cannot be the method of conflict resolution in our great nation. 

This thought took prayer?

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5 minutes ago, TwiceHorn said:

There's no consensus on what constitutes a mass shooting, the FBI doesn't track it.

You and the deceased Kirk just like to include gang violence because it implicates brown poor people and dilutes the number of armed lunatics murdering innocents.

So then there are no legitimate mass shooting statistics and anyone quoting any statistics around mass shootings are just pushing an agenda?  Ok glad we have that established and the constant bed wetting over mass shootings becoming more common can stop.

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Just now, GSU&UT said:

Is your point they would not label all Democrats as Marxist/Leftist/Communists if people on Twitter weren't celebrating? What are we doing here?

They do that anyway. What I’m referring to is the charge that “Democrats are celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death on social media.” It’s not 100% false, as much as I wish it were. There are some people celebrating, and they are getting a lot of attention, and because there are, Republicans will believe that Democrats, broadly speaking, were happy about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, that’s just where we are. But it’s not because of some label or purely propaganda. 

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I have thought long and hard about this, even reached out to my pastor. After we prayed together, all I have to say is this, political violence cannot be the method of conflict resolution in our great nation.  Thoughts and prayers go out to Charlie's family.  Tragic. 

We are a country that loves two things: hating each other and guns.

As long as no effort is made to address either of these, the two loves will continue to overlap.
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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

So then there are no legitimate mass shooting statistics and anyone quoting any statistics around mass shootings aren’t pushing an agenda?  Ok glad we have that established and the constant bed wetting over mass shootings becoming more common can stop.

Quite the departure from what you said a few minutes ago:

"This has been beaten to death.  Yes, every shooting of multiple people is included in the largely discussed mass shooting statistics.  And yes the majority of mass shooting events involve gang violence "

 
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Guys guys guys, a man is dead. Let’s honor his memory by setting aside petty grievances and not getting tangled up in asinine bad faith arguments over how much we can assign the blame for gun violence on black people.

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Just now, Bozo_Casanova said:

They do that anyway. What I’m referring to is the charge that “Democrats are celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death on social media.” It’s not 100% false, as much as I wish it were. There are some people celebrating, and they are getting a lot of attention, and because there are, Republicans will believe that Democrats, broadly speaking, were happy about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, that’s just where we are. But it’s not because of some label or purely propaganda. 

I am not happy about it. But I am also not sad about it. I think karma bit him in the ass. You reap what you sow.

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3 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

It’s amazing that he would do a large, outdoor appearance like this with no security considering the current landscape in this country. 

which imo is a dead giveaway of how these right-wingers with high public profiles privately talk about the perceived threat of left-wing violence--they don't take it seriously at all and for all their bullshit about antifa antifa antifa, they think the left is a bunch of pacifist pussies who can't even slapfight. So Kirk isn't going to shell out money for security when he thinks his lefty critics are a bunch of soyboys and it never occurs to him that the true threat is from MAGA lunatics who love their guns and have demonstrated a predilection for political violence when they get worked up over whatever bullshit their conspiratorial minds conjure up. 

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4 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They do that anyway. What I’m referring to is the charge that “Democrats are celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death on social media.” It’s not 100% false, as much as I wish it were. There are some people celebrating, and they are getting a lot of attention, and because there are, Republicans will believe that Democrats, broadly speaking, were happy about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, that’s just where we are. But it’s not because of some label or purely propaganda. 

If you're conceding the rules are never the same then I'm struggling to understand what your point is then. You're talking about a man who is directly responsible for, at the very least, radicalizing young men against trans people, women, and anyone else they deem "liberal." Of course you're going to find people celebrating if you search long enough, you might as well try to fight society itself as a concept.

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3 hours ago, Wilcox Cummingtonite said:

I don’t. Fuck the left. They are pieces of shit and we’ll never agree on anything. We need 2 nations.

Ok. Cool. Hook’’em. 
 

Be at the game Saturday?

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2 minutes ago, Gourmand said:

which imo is a dead giveaway of how these right-wingers with high public profiles privately talk about the perceived threat of left-wing violence--they don't take it seriously at all and for all their bullshit about antifa antifa antifa, they think the left is a bunch of pacifist pussies who can't even slapfight. So Kirk isn't going to shell out money for security when he thinks his lefty critics are a bunch of soyboys and it never occurs to him that the true threat is from MAGA lunatics who love their guns and have demonstrated a predilection for political violence when they get worked up over whatever bullshit their conspiratorial minds conjure up. 

Whether they think lefties are pussies or whatever is pretty irrelevant.

The pretty obvious conclusion is that they don't believe their own bullshit about left-wing violence.

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9 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I have thought long and hard about this, even reached out to my pastor. After we prayed together, all I have to say is this, political violence cannot be the method of conflict resolution in our great nation.  Thoughts and prayers go out to Charlie's family.  Tragic. 

No it can't be. 

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8 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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Well said Mr. Governor.

Kind of refreshing.

Just now, Ted Lange said:

Gas on the fire, fucking scumbag 

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He doesn't even know who the fuck killed him.

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9 minutes ago, The Dog said:

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Leaders like him? He could lead this initiative but he won’t, because 99.9% of politicians are fucking cowards that only care about their re-election. Fuck all of these politicians. Tired of these muppets gaslighting us when they are the ones with the power to change the status quo. But they won’t because they love their checks from lobbyists and donors. 

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11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

They do that anyway. What I’m referring to is the charge that “Democrats are celebrating Charlie Kirk’s death on social media.” It’s not 100% false, as much as I wish it were. There are some people celebrating, and they are getting a lot of attention, and because there are, Republicans will believe that Democrats, broadly speaking, were happy about the assassination of Charlie Kirk, that’s just where we are. But it’s not because of some label or purely propaganda. 

But they are just randos for the most part. Nobody of significance.

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20 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

The fuck are you talking about?  The AI slop you posted literally says mass shootings aren’t “gang” violence but “community” violence, which it then states includes “gang” violence.

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Are you attempting to argue that gun violence isn’t a problem? 

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13 minutes ago, Red Five said:

This thought took prayer?

 

10 minutes ago, Chuckie Finster said:


We are a country that loves two things: hating each other and guns.

As long as no effort is made to address either of these, the two loves will continue to overlap.

 

2 minutes ago, Valmy77 said:

No it can't be. 

Whoosh

 

I had a great day today. I dont root on death or murder. I do take great joy in irony. Isn't it ironic? Don't ya think?

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1 minute ago, Ted Lange said:

Gas on the fire, fucking scumbag 

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for every dem celebrating on social media, there are 5 maga fuckfaces that will use this incident however it best suits them.

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Just now, henrygandorf said:

for every dem celebrating on social media, there are 5 maga fuckfaces that will use this incident however it best suits them.

Right, half the politicians that are blaming the "left" haven't likely looked at a single post on social media that wasn't shoved into their face by an intern. This was always going to be the case, that fuckboy Big Balls getting beat up was used as an excuse to occupy DC. Another flash point anywhere else would have been the next excuse, it just so happened it was today.

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7 minutes ago, Ted Lange said:

Gas on the fire, fucking scumbag 

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"We pledge to you that we will root out the communists, Marxists, fascists, and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country.” - Trump 11/2023

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2 minutes ago, David Dennison said:

If it ends up being a right winger it will be the left's fault for radicalizing him.

 

At this point, if it ends up being a right winger they'll never find him. 

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2 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

 

 

Whoosh

 

I had a great day today. I dont root on death or murder. I do take great joy in irony. Isn't it ironic? Don't ya think?

Huh? Ok...good one?

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7 minutes ago, hobbes2702 said:

Is gun violence a problem in this country? Why does it matter if it’s gangs or not? 

Yes.

 It doesn’t matter.  But in the broadest definitions of mass shootings gang violence is included to sensationalize the statistics in an effort to push gun control.  This has been argued here(and former sites) MANY times.

I will correct my language above in that I said “all” mass shooting  statistics.  More correctly “all” mass shooting statistics presented in the MSM

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4 minutes ago, Hank Kingsley said:

At this point, if it ends up being a right winger they'll never find him. 

Soros funded and trained false flag

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9 minutes ago, Incredulity said:

Can you read?

I read this:

"the constant bed wetting over mass shootings becoming more common can stop."

The type of mass shooting where a single gunman with no other criminal objective shoots and injures/kills multiple civilians has become more common.

Do you deny this?

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27 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I have thought long and hard about this, even reached out to my pastor. After we prayed together, all I have to say is this, political violence cannot be the method of conflict resolution in our great nation.  Thoughts and prayers go out to Charlie's family.  Tragic. 

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Just now, TwiceHorn said:

I read this:

"the constant bed wetting over mass shootings becoming more common can stop."

The type of mass shooting where a single gunman with no other criminal objective shoots and injures/kills multiple civilians has become more common.

Do you deny this?

We can’t possibly know.  That’s your position, right?

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1 minute ago, Incredulity said:

Yes.

 It doesn’t matter.  But in the broadest definitions of mass shootings gang violence is included to sensationalize the statistics in an effort to push gun control.  This has been argued here(and former sites) MANY times.

I will correct my language above in that I said “all” mass shooting  statistics.  More correctly “all” mass shooting statistics presented in the MSM

So instead of just saying “gun violence is a problem” which was clearly proven today, you choose to argue about gun violence stats. You’re a really serious person

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18 minutes ago, GSU&UT said:

If you're conceding the rules are never the same then I'm struggling to understand what your point is then. You're talking about a man who is directly responsible for, at the very least, radicalizing young men against trans people, women, and anyone else they deem "liberal." Of course you're going to find people celebrating if you search long enough, you might as well try to fight society itself as a concept.

I think you missed the context here, so let’s move on.

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28 minutes ago, HOOKEM4 said:

I have thought long and hard about this, even reached out to my pastor. After we prayed together, all I have to say is this, political violence cannot be the method of conflict resolution in our great nation.  Thoughts and prayers go out to Charlie's family.  Tragic. 

This country has a long history of political violence being the method of conflict resolution.

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