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1 minute ago, Hank_Hill said:

Pretty sure I’ve been told the criminal faucet to the 51st state is one way

That's the water faucet, it just goes south, to LA.  But only if Trump turns it on.

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10 minutes ago, Not that Bob said:

Assuming that is a stationary security camera, how the hell does it pan and zoom in on the runner?

Obviously, you’ve never seen Enemy of the State

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1 hour ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

 

this is insane. fucker drops probably 15 feet then gets up and runs off. Not a single person walking or driving around notices him drop from the roof. wtf

They were on their phones.

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10 minutes ago, F250 said:

Have you ever had to secure network traffic in China? Once you migrate to state capitalism the needs of the state take priority over any company. 

Me personally, no. But a couple of my customers had China resources/interests and they basically firewall them off into their own sub-company and treat it like a clean room environment because of the concern over State spying or meddling. Never shall anything cross the firewall, and information here stays here and stuff from there stays there. In theory at least.

 

But literally and technically, you can't just go and turn off VPN's. That's now how that works, or how any of this works. By the same token, we wouldn't allow HTTPS traffic either and we're back to sending passwords in the clear. There's going to be a real sticking point between what law enforcement wants, and what would completely destroy modern commerce and information assurance

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

Me personally, no. But a couple of my customers had China resources/interests and they basically firewall them off into their own sub-company and treat it like a clean room environment because of the concern over State spying or meddling. Never shall anything cross the firewall, and information here stays here and stuff from there stays there. In theory at least.

 

But literally and technically, you can't just go and turn off VPN's. That's now how that works, or how any of this works. By the same token, we wouldn't allow HTTPS traffic either and we're back to sending passwords in the clear. There's going to be a real sticking point between what law enforcement wants, and what would completely destroy modern commerce and information assurance

Well, I have and because of multiple interactions with the Chinese government I will never step foot into China. I actually had an Australian employee call me because he was about to be arrested on his first visit to our China office and ask me to drop our VPN outside of China because he didn't want to go to prison in China. 

I had previously received letters from the Chinese government about removing TLS and SSH along with implementing web filtering for fucking everything. There were issues with my staff locking down network equipment before sending it to China and finding backdoors once implemented there. 

China doesn't give a fuck about corporate security, the state comes first. That's where state capitalism leads.

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1 minute ago, F250 said:

China doesn't give a fuck about corporate security, the state comes first. That's where state capitalism leads.

[Laughs nervously at Intel wifi chip on my mobo]

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Going to China in a few months for travel with a Chinese coworker who goes back and forth all the time. Pretty pumped tbh. Let you know if I get got( or, guess I won’t)

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This isn't strictly news on the shooting, but given the absolute lack of information from the feds and how the shooter has just disappeared leaving a frothing wake of hatred and broad calls for retribution... What if this was a foreign actor taking an inciting action?

The Utah FBI office had been gutted a few months ago for reasons we can't discuss here, but the result is a vacuum of experience and skills at counter intelligence in that AO of the FBI. That's a nice soft target with a big payoff, if your end goal is to accelerate things and crank up the temperature and weaken our social cohesion.

That's wild speculation, but it is an interesting lens to look at the fact that we know so far

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1 minute ago, Captainant said:

What if this was a foreign actor taking an inciting action?

God, if we could only be so lucky. Another country dumb enough to risk getting caught and giving us a common flag to rally against while we're in the middle of destroying ourselves more efficiently than our enemies could ever dream.

We're not that lucky.

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3 minutes ago, Hank_Hill said:

Going to China in a few months for travel with a Chinese coworker who goes back and forth all the time. Pretty pumped tbh. Let you know if I get got( or, guess I won’t)

It's pretty weird getting letters from the government of China directed at you with your name on the letter. But at the time I would toss then in the trash and think "America!" 

Now I worry about our own American government doing the same thing as the Chi Coms.

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2 minutes ago, Captainant said:

If you don't distort the image, it looks like a large cell phone 

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I thought about that, especially with the last in this series of pics.  But it seems super sized for a cell phone unless this guy is super short .  If it is a cell phone, then where is the gun unless it was planted ahead of time?

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1 minute ago, Bill Brasky said:

I thought about that, especially with the last in this series of pics.  But it seems super sized for a cell phone unless this guy is super short .  If it is a cell phone, then where is the gun unless it was planted ahead of time?

Yeah I'm right there with ya on the gun - I don't see a rifle on the person jumping down and I don't know how one person on their own moves it from the roof to the woods without carrying it or dropping it down ahead of them. 

There's still much to be discovered and much to be debunked. There's been a rush to point fingers and repeat the most inflammatory thing, and the FBI's best lead at the moment seems to be their tip line. It's crazy the FBI director fired a seasoned SAC that was a counterintelligence and counterterrorism expert from Utah, and then THIS happens a month later and they've got their dicks in their hands

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He pretty clearly to me has the gun with him on the way down either in a bag or wrapped in something (think they said they found it in a towel).

Granted I have very good eyesight still. It isn't super obvious - there aren't a ton of pixels comprising the image for something that far away. 

I'm assuming he had put the gun up there already. Like, not in broad daylight. Or had help putting it up there. 

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Yeah, if you look at the 22 second mark of that Rawsalerts tweet and blow it up full screen, you can see him set a bag or something down as he's climbing over the side and then pick it up with his right hand right before he drops down to the ground. 

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Posted (edited)
7 hours ago, TwiceHorn said:

This is an example of people attributing things to the FBI that aren't attributable to the FBI because of the movies or some shit.

 

what do you mean? Do you really think law enforcement pulled Kohberger over in bumfuck Indiana because he was "following to closely"?  Nobody in the history of driving has ever been pulled over for tailgaitng. Or do you think if feds announcedtheyre looking for Bryan Kohberger in a nationwide manhunt, he'd still be alive at his parents house? 

 

I mean I dont know, I've never been a killer so some might thinking pulling off the perfect crime is in their DNA. if FBI last night flat out says "killers name is John Smith, college student at UVU"...do you think the chances of him being detained alive drop immediately? I mean I personally would rather be dead instantly than be caught and spend 4 life sentences in prison for the rest of my life.

 

Playing stupid and begging for the publics help with tip lines, websites, rewards helps massage the killers ego thinking he's gonna get away with it. or who knows. Maybe hes at the bottom of Salt lake right now with anchors attached to his feet 

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9 hours ago, Surly Bevo said:

I can completely understand why folks might not notice.

Normal people don't go about their day in hypervigilance mode.  It's one of the many reasons eye witnesses are generally not all too reliable.

In addition, there were speakers amplifying the talk so if one's attention is directed towards the stage, it isn't it more likely to be the person(s) facing the crowd who have the most opportunity to witness anything and perhaps connect a sound with a visual anomaly?

 

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So allegedly they have the suspect in custody. The assassin’s minister turned him in? Or something similar. Flipping channels and Trump is sitting on the set of Fox & Friends describing how LE apprehended the suspect. The minister’s friend is a US Marshall? I think is what Trump is saying? Idk. I got an alert on my phone. 
 

I had to rewind it bc I am trying to follow what he’s saying. 

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7 hours ago, ztejas said:

He pretty clearly to me has the gun with him on the way down either in a bag or wrapped in something (think they said they found it in a towel).

Granted I have very good eyesight still. It isn't super obvious - there aren't a ton of pixels comprising the image for something that far away. 

I'm assuming he had put the gun up there already. Like, not in broad daylight. Or had help putting it up there. 

watching again, id say you are correct.  

definitely has a slender bag.  

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Ok so basically Trump had a scheduled appearance on F&F and 5 mins before he appears on set he is told they have the shooter. A minister who has a US Marshal friend went to the Marshals set up the arrest and allegedly the shooter’s parent or dad was also involved like an intervention. 

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2 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Ok so basically Trump had a scheduled appearance on F&F and 5 mins before he appears on set he is told they have the shooter. A minister who has a US Marshal friend went to the Marshals set up the arrest and allegedly the shooter’s parent or dad was also involved like an intervention. 

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Pretty strange that POTUS is breaking this news. He's desperate to get everyone to forget about his many wonderful secrets with Epstein 

 

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Just now, Captainant said:

Pretty strange that POTUS is breaking this news. He's desperate to get everyone to forget about his many wonderful secrets with Epstein 

 

There probably was no way he wasn’t breaking this news. Lol. 😂 but I can’t figure out from what he said if the minister is also the shooters dad. I’ve listened twice and I think he’s saying that but not at all sure. 

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Good idea to disseminate the video and images to the media.

Trump says a minister identified alleged Kirk killer

By JOSH BOAK

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Speaking on “Fox and Friends,” the U.S. president said that a minister identified the alleged killer of Charlie Kirk.

Trump said the pastor had relations with law enforcement, saying that he knew a member of the U.S. Marshals Service.

The president said this connection ultimately led to the alleged killer’s father getting involved, which resulted in the alleged killer being taken to a police station.

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1 minute ago, mdmost said:

Good idea to disseminate the video and images to the media.

It almost always works. I’m not a parent but those of you who are: I mean is there any way you wouldn’t be able to identify your kid from a picture like that? 

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Just now, Nicole44 said:

It almost always works. I’m not a parent but those of you who are: I mean is there any way you wouldn’t be able to identify your kid from a picture like that? 

Well the portion I added makes it seem like the minister knew the kid and alerted a friend who was a federal Marshall. I guess they worked to bring the kid in safely with the dad. 

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3 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

There probably was no way he wasn’t breaking this news. Lol. 😂 but I can’t figure out from what he said if the minister is also the shooters dad. I’ve listened twice and I think he’s saying that but not at all sure. 

I agree.  Someone in the king's court was assassinated.  If he can't administer justice for that, it kind of undermines his shadow of power and authority.  He was always going to be directly involved as a figurehead.

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4 minutes ago, Goredho said:

I agree.  Someone in the king's court was assassinated.  If he can't administer justice for that, it kind of undermines his shadow of power and authority.  He was always going to be directly involved as a figurehead.

Plus in this way he reminds me of my late uncle. If you want a secret known…you’d tell my uncle. Within a minute everyone knew the secret. 

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Pretty strange that POTUS is breaking this news. He's desperate to get everyone to forget about his many wonderful secrets with Epstein 
 

Gossip might be the only thing this man has ever truly loved. I actually don’t think it’s any more complicated than that, in this instance.
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2 minutes ago, MNLonghornFUKM said:

Now we wait and see if 4 Chan solved it yesterday or not

I’m most curious if it is the young man in the video that was debating Charlie. Maybe he felt slighted by the exchange and was mad there was a comeback tour? No motive will ever truly make sense. Particularly not to his wife and kids and family. 

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13 hours ago, Nicole44 said:

Does his walk look normal? Almost like a limp? 

Nothing wrong with his leg, he's just b-boy limpin'.

(RIP, MCA)

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Man in custody confessed to his father about shooting, sources say

From CNN's Evan Perez and Hannah Rabinowitz

Two of the sources said that the man in custody confessed to his father that he was the shooter.

His father told authorities and said he had secured his son until he could be formally detained.

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Father, Pastor. Same thing, right?

 

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48 minutes ago, mdmost said:

Good idea to disseminate the video and images to the media.

Trump says a minister identified alleged Kirk killer

By JOSH BOAK

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Speaking on “Fox and Friends,” the U.S. president said that a minister identified the alleged killer of Charlie Kirk.

Trump said the pastor had relations with law enforcement, saying that he knew a member of the U.S. Marshals Service.

The president said this connection ultimately led to the alleged killer’s father getting involved, which resulted in the alleged killer being taken to a police station.

 

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Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Whoa look at all the trans ideology in their bedroom gasp

I even see an arrow!

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3 minutes ago, Chopper said:

Whoa look at all the trans ideology in their dorm room gasp

I even see an arrow!

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Posted (edited)
1 minute ago, BERT said:

Why are they always skinny dorky kids? 

It’s literally the same kid who nicked don don’s ear right?

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Just now, 'stache said:

It’s literally the same kid who nicked don don’s ear right?

No, that one was a lot dorkier 

Posted (edited)
3 minutes ago, BERT said:

Why are they always skinny dorky kids? 

People like to bully those they see as weaker than themselves.  In time, monsters are created.  That Jesus guy was really onto something when he said love thy neighbor.  We don’t do that any more.

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3 minutes ago, Js1 said:

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It's good the kid had a father he could confide in. He turned out to be a real straight shooter, just as you'd expect. 

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