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[NorthLoop 13906]

1 minute ago, Nicole44 said:

 

Sounds like those tires will be forged of a hotter fire. 

[texasdago 7376]

3 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Sounds like those tires will be forged of a hotter fire. 

Comrade Wheeler

 

[ShaggyBevo RIP 3825]

3 minutes ago, NorthLoop said:

Sounds like those tires will be forged of a hotter fire. 

 Pretty sure I saw Wheeler's bus on a RU train flatbed. Probably won't arrive at Kyiv either.

Edited March 7, 2022 by ShaggyBevo RIP

[Chopper 15888]

New Ukrainian weapon in the War on Vlad

 

[BabaYaga 15115]

Just now, Chopper said:

New Ukrainian weapon in the War on Vlad

 

[Auto Driller 2502]

Japan starting to get a little frisky.

 

 

[Orange&White 5497]

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

 

 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

1 minute ago, Chopper said:

New Ukrainian weapon in the War on Vlad

 

Seems Russia should just bring back the Cossacks. That armor really gets in the way when you don’t have fuel and it’s muddy.

 

[InkaUtexas 24819]

 

 

[Doc Reeves 6434]

5 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

 

 

 

Rule three:

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Members of the armed forces and security forces of a country in conflict, members of militias, voluntary corps and resistance groups in a country in conflict, civilians who spontaneously take up arms during mass uprising are generally considered to be combatants.

*still you can’t mow down civilians to get the combatants. Just as our military who served hunting Isis about that. 
There will be an investigation to find out what happens and gather physical proof to bring in Internatiol Court against Russian leaders.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Doc Reeves

[Parliament 13979]

2 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

 

 

You make a great point.  You know how Russian soldiers can avoid having war crimes committed on them?

Just put your weapons down and fuck off back to Russia.  Not likely the Ukrainian civilian war criminals will chase you all the way back to your house.

[Scary Stranger 1708]

2 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

 

 

Yeah, those look like they just parked some out there to blow up for a photo op.

[Slacks 6666]

5 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

 

 

I've been thinking this the whole time...  Fallujah and whatnot.

[Cheeseweasel 26437]

9 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

Japan starting to get a little frisky.

 

 

Japan invades Russia is NOT on my Bingo card.

[956 Worldwide 33957]

4 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

 

 

Most of these buildings are being hit with MRLS or even cruise missiles from miles away and there are no Russian soldiers anywhere near the buildings.  We’ve barely seen any house to house or urban combat. These are war crimes. 

[InkaUtexas 24819]

1 minute ago, 956 Worldwide said:

Most of these buildings are being hit with MRLS or even cruise missiles from miles away and there are no Russian soldiers anywhere near the buildings.  We’ve barely seen any house to house or urban combat. These are war crimes. 

And The Hague rarely goes after soldiers, instead they want the leadership. 

[Chopper 15888]

9 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

There's video of their soldiers committing war crimes. There's probably written orders or intercepted electronic orders carried by RU soldiers into the field. There's russian clusterbombs. There's verified attacks on journalists. There's russian missiles, whose trajectory can be traced, in demolished UKR civilian buildings...

1 minute ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Japan invades Russia is NOT on my Bingo card.

Me neither. But certain Russian provinces that would prefer to be independent from Moscow declaring independence after seeing the vulnerability of the Russian military is on mine. Hopefully more velvet revolutions or whatever they'll be called are on the way.

[Orange&White 5497]

Just now, Chopper said:

There's video of their soldiers committing war crimes. There's probably written orders or intercepted electronic orders carried by RU soldiers into the field. There's russian clusterbombs. There's verified attacks on journalists. There's russian missiles, whose trajectory can be traced, in demolished UKR civilian buildings...

 

Which is precisely why I add the caveat that I was only talking about the attacks on civilian buildings. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

 

[956 Worldwide 33957]

This is one fuck who needs to be on a deck of cards.

 

[Nicole44 21941]

12 minutes ago, Cheeseweasel said:

Japan invades Russia is NOT on my Bingo card.

Be a major power move or at least put them more on the world stage to threaten. With all the weak ads shit coming from China. And fuck the Chinese government. They can get bent over and have a Molotov cocktail shoved up their ass. 

[956 Worldwide 33957]

5 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Which is precisely why I add the caveat that I was only talking about the attacks on civilian buildings. 

They aren’t fighting like we did in Fallujah or anywhere.  They pull up at any bit of resistance, park, and indiscriminately bombard. Russians are not going house to house and calling in for support. 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

So hard to tell what’s going on, but if WaPo is reporting this then it’s government leaking that out for whatever effect. 

[DigglerontheHoof 20449]

The 3 biggest asshole countries from WWII are all feeling froggy again.  Cool, cool, cool.

[Parliament 13979]

You leave New Zealand out of this!

[BabaYaga 15115]

Anyone seeing indications from any outlets about more Russian troops heading to Ukraine?  Reconcile this with the statements that the vast majority are already committed - are they all out of quarters?

[tokamak 6321]

4 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

So hard to tell what’s going on, but if WaPo is reporting this then it’s government leaking that out for whatever effect. 

...why not?

[InkaUtexas 24819]

You always plan for multiple outcomes. 

[956 Worldwide 33957]

6 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

So hard to tell what’s going on, but if WaPo is reporting this then it’s government leaking that out for whatever effect. 

I don’t know anyone who thinks the Ukrainians are winning or that the situation is anything but dire, long term. Lots of us think that the Russians aren’t on schedule, are taking more hits than they thought they would, and that’s about as much as Ukraine can hope for. 
 

Also, this planning had leaked before the war even started. 

Edited March 7, 2022 by 956 Worldwide

[Brisketexan 103139]

10 minutes ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

So hard to tell what’s going on, but if WaPo is reporting this then it’s government leaking that out for whatever effect. 

 

4 minutes ago, InkaUtexas said:

You always plan for multiple outcomes. 

I mean.....fucking this.  You'd be an idiot NOT to plan for that contingency.

Failing to plan for alternate scenarios/contingencies is what got Russia in the pickle it's in.  Repeating that mistake would be galactically stupid.

Also, y'all notice how GRUhorn is always there to sow doubts, to bolster the Russian line?  I do.  Pay attention.  It's important to see and acknowledge what you're seeing.

[BachelorTrek 2884]

12 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Be a major power move or at least put them more on the world stage to threaten. With all the weak ads shit coming from China. And fuck the Chinese government. They can get bent over and have a Molotov cocktail shoved up their ass. 

You forgot you need to light it first. Lulz.

[Neonmoon 38126]

31 minutes ago, Orange&White said:

Unpopular take ahead:

Not that I am siding with Russia on this, but won't it be difficult for the Ukes, or anyone, to prove "War Crimes" related to destroying residential building? Obviously anything pertaining to illegal weapons and targeting obvious civilians is a different story.

The main Ukrainian government twitter and social media are continually reporting on how their civilian citizenry is taking up arms against the Russians. If a Russian soldier pulls onto a street and there is gunfire coming from every widow of every apartment building and they fire back or call in some heavy gunfire to that location, that doesn't seem to be committing any War Crimes as much as just fighting a war.

Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that hard to prove

 

 

 

[Nicole44 21941]

Air combat!!!!

 

[Immaculate Vibes 114]

4 minutes ago, Brisketexan said:

 

I mean.....fucking this.  You'd be an idiot NOT to plan for that contingency.

Failing to plan for alternate scenarios/contingencies is what got Russia in the pickle it's in.  Repeating that mistake would be galactically stupid.

Also, y'all notice how GRUhorn is always there to sow doubts, to bolster the Russian line?  I do.  Pay attention.  It's important to see and acknowledge what you're seeing.

I try to cut through to what’s actually happening. Through all the rah rah bs. The other link I shared today was a nuts and bolts intelligence assessment  that included how Ukraine could better defend power plants etc. You see what you want to see Brisket. 
 

The fact that that story is in WaPo states way more about the state of affairs in Ukraine than all the battlefield tweets of questionable veracity. 

Edited March 7, 2022 by Immaculate Vibes

[Brisketexan 103139]

2 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

Yeah, I don't think it's going to be that hard to prove

 

 

 

Yeah.  The deliberate targeting of civilian infrastructure is already proven.

Russian leadership will never be allowed outside Russia's borders* again.

 

* Except to visit the handful of "friendly" states left for them.

[BachelorTrek 2884]

8 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Anyone seeing indications from any outlets about more Russian troops heading to Ukraine?  Reconcile this with the statements that the vast majority are already committed - are they all out of quarters?

Chechens
the Belarus ones that didn't disobey orders
Kazahks (under the table?)
Syrians (paid $200-300 total for 6 months of it, if that's to be believed)
Plus I read somewhere they did a new round of conscripts in ruskie-land. 

[956 Worldwide 33957]

1 minute ago, Immaculate Vibes said:

I try to cut through to what’s actually happening. Through all the rah rah bs. The other link I shared today was a nuts and bolts intelligence assessment  that included how Ukraine could better defend power plants etc. You see what you want to see Brisket. 

That tweet is dumb as fuck. I know the guy is a think tanker and covered the GWOT but it’s really dumb as fuck. That story was out there before the war. We know that we offered to get Zelenskyy out well into the war.  No one had ever suggested in their wildest estimates that Ukraine can hold out forever. 
 

In short, typical Russian style attack on a scarecrow. 

[Brisketexan 103139]

Just now, Immaculate Vibes said:

I try to cut through to what’s actually happening. Through all the rah rah bs. The other link I shared today was a nuts and bolts intelligence assessment  that included how Ukraine could better defend power plants etc. You see what you want to see Brisket. 

I see what's right in front of me.  I take it all with a grain of salt.  I damned well know that Russian military action is inflicting real losses on an outgunned Ukraine.

But regarding what you are.....I've seen it for a long time.  With respect to you, with respect to Brexit, with respect to Russian dezinformatsiya regarding American politics, vaccines, etc.

You are aligned with the  dezinformatsiya on EVERY.  SINGLE.  ISSUE.  

I've been around too long to believe in coincidences.

[Chopper 15888]

18 minutes ago, tokamak said:

...why not?

I think it's already been conclusively answered but from a quick dig, it appears the dude is a neocon desperately in search of an edgy take and he latched on to one small sentence and blew it up out of proportion.

edit to add, fighting in urban areas will be advantageous to Ukrainians.

Edited March 7, 2022 by Chopper

[Auto Driller 2502]

Russia has already lost. It’s just a matter of how much deeper they want to dig the hole.

Already their demands have been significantly reduced. They’re sending WWI armored trains to try to resupply their demoralized, unmotivated, and hopelessly lost invasion force. They just need to give up.

[MillerEP 30232]

Ouch, as somebody who LOVES games, this would hurt:

https://www.pcgamer.com/take-two-and-ubisoft-suspend-sales-in-russia-over-ukrainian-invasion/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com

Take-Two and Ubisoft suspend sales in Russia over Ukrainian invasion
By Andy Chalk published about 1 hour ago

The publishers join Electronic Arts, Activision-Blizzard, CD Projekt, and others in speaking out against Russian aggression.

Take-Two Interactive and Ubisoft have announced that they are halting sales of their games and services in Russia as a result of its invasion of Ukraine.

"We have watched recent events unfold in Ukraine with concern and sadness," Take-Two Interactive vice president of corporate communications Alan Lewis said in an email sent to PC Gamer. "After significant consideration, last week, we decided to stop new sales, installations, and marketing support across all our labels in Russia and Belarus at this time."

Ubisoft confirmed its policy change in a one-line update to last week's blog post on the state of Ukraine and its employees in the country: "In light of the ongoing tragedy in Ukraine, we have decided to suspend our sales in Russia."

The publishers are the latest game companies to suspend business in Russia because of the invasion, following CD Projekt, Electronic Arts, Activision Blizzard, and Epic Games. Microsoft has also stopped "all new sales" of its products and services in the country, as well as "many aspects of our business in Russia in compliance with governmental sanctions decisions."

Non-gaming companies including Airbnb, Spotify, Volkswagen, Oracle, Netflix, Nike, Boeing, Netflix, PayPal, and many others have also stopped sales or manufacturing in Russia, while international economic sanctions have cratered the value of the country's currency, inflicting significant pressure on Russia's leaders but also causing hardships for much of its population.

Andy Chalk

Edited March 7, 2022 by MillerEP

[Doc Reeves 6434]

25 minutes ago, Nicole44 said:

Be a major power move or at least put them more on the world stage to threaten. With all the weak ads shit coming from China. And fuck the Chinese government. They can get bent over and have a Molotov cocktail shoved up their ass. 

 

[immamac 41336]

I mean if the Ukrainians beat the shit out of them so bad and then invade Russia because of the same claims they made of Ukraine and then Russians actually laid down and let them capture that would be so chefs kiss. Would be nice to have Ukrainian government running Russia. 

[Sbbruin 21567]

24 minutes ago, Parliament said:

You leave New Zealand out of this!

Hey, the New Zealand army will mess you up.

 

[TexasEd 8011]

5 minutes ago, Chopper said:

I think it's already been conclusively answered but from a quick dig, it appears the dude is a neocon desperately in search of an edgy take and he latched on to one small sentence and blew it up out of proportion.

edit to add, fighting in urban areas will be advantageous to Ukrainians.

the 999 APCs makes me smile for some reason.  Just that they typed 999

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Auto Driller said:

Russia has already lost. It’s just a matter of how much deeper they want to dig the hole.

Already their demands have been significantly reduced. They’re sending WWI armored trains to try to resupply their demoralized, unmotivated, and hopelessly lost invasion force. They just need to give up.

I'm actually getting a little hopeful -- albeit just a glimmer -- that we're closer to a resolution than we think. Word is that Putin is still talking to Macron, there's been a third round of talks with the Ukrainians, and Israel went to Moscow.

I think those are positive signs amid this shit sandwich.

[TexasEd 8011]

3 minutes ago, MillerEP said:

Ouch, as somebody who LOVES games, this would hurt:

https://www.pcgamer.com/take-two-and-ubisoft-suspend-sales-in-russia-over-ukrainian-invasion/?utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=socialflow&utm_source=facebook.com

Take-Two and Ubisoft suspend sales in Russia over Ukrainian invasion
By Andy Chalk published about 1 hour ago

The publishers join Electronic Arts, Activision-Blizzard, CD Projekt, and others in speaking out against Russian aggression.

Take-Two Interactive and Ubisoft have announced that they are halting sales of their games and services in Russia as a result of its invasion of Ukraine.

"We have watched recent events unfold in Ukraine with concern and sadness," Take-Two Interactive vice president of corporate communications Alan Lewis said in an email sent to PC Gamer. "After significant consideration, last week, we decided to stop new sales, installations, and marketing support across all our labels in Russia and Belarus at this time."

Ubisoft confirmed its policy change in a one-line update to last week's blog post on the state of Ukraine and its employees in the country: "In light of the ongoing tragedy in Ukraine, we have decided to suspend our sales in Russia."

The publishers are the latest game companies to suspend business in Russia because of the invasion, following CD Projekt, Electronic Arts, Activision Blizzard, and Epic Games. Microsoft has also stopped "all new sales" of its products and services in the country, as well as "many aspects of our business in Russia in compliance with governmental sanctions decisions."

Non-gaming companies including Airbnb, Spotify, Volkswagen, Oracle, Netflix, Nike, Boeing, Netflix, PayPal, and many others have also stopped sales or manufacturing in Russia, while international economic sanctions have cratered the value of the country's currency, inflicting significant pressure on Russia's leaders but also causing hardships for much of its population.

Andy Chalk

This reads like and effort mobilize Russia's gamers to get them out of Babuska's basement and on the street protesting.

[The Dog 42744]

 

[BrickHorn 17983]

37 minutes ago, 956 Worldwide said:

 

MISSION ACCOMPLISHED. 

[dcar00 13861]

27 minutes ago, BabaYaga said:

Anyone seeing indications from any outlets about more Russian troops heading to Ukraine?  Reconcile this with the statements that the vast majority are already committed - are they all out of quarters?

I think they mean almost 100% of the resources that were on the border when the shootin started.  

the "more troops" is bringing in the the reserves who weren't deployed yet, IMO