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4 hours ago, Brisketexan said:


Interestingly enough…I’m on a family vacation, and one of our cousins has been with a defense contractor for decades (think satellite targeting and such). He was relating the story of a colleague who was an AF forward observer (captain) during the Iraq war. He’d been calling in air strikes and artillery strikes for weeks. Then, an officer came to him and told him about this new thing they had, HIMARS. Within a strike or two, this guy realized he could put ordinance on target with less than 10 meters of error. He went nuts, putting strikes on all kinds of targets that required precision.
After a couple of weeks, he gets a phone call. From the pentagon. It’s a general…he freaks a bit, because general. The general just wants to ask him about his experience and opinion of HIMARS. He gushes, explains all the great things he can do with it, what a game changer it is. General thanks him for his feedback, laughs, and says “but we’re gonna need you to tone it down a bit. Those things are $1 million each, so you burned through $70 million just last week. So…be a bit more selective.”
Point being, the precision on target was a game changer, and puts traditional artillery to shame. And we’ve been playing with them for 20 years. They know how to use them.

Haha this reminds me of an Indian Princess campout back when DDD was in K or 1st grade.  One of the other dads (Longhorn engineer for Lockheed) had to take a call on his cell phone with a military officer in Iraq to help target a bunker buster or some such.  Five minutes later he's back having a cold non-alcoholic (ahem) drink in a red solo cup by the fire, telling us he couldn't tell us anything but that Saddam was having a very bad day.

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20 minutes ago, Neonmoon said:

There’s a reason they are loyal. In 1942, Australia called England and asked for protection from Japan. England said no can do. Second call was to USA. We sent the Pacific Fleet 

We got that Bloomin Onion and Crocodile Dundee out of the deal, don't you forget it.  

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2 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Can the US or Canada give Australia 15-20 acres of land on the Atlantic coast, so they can join NATO?  They went into Afghanistan with us, they are our closest Allie’s in the Pacific….

Maybe we just pick an Outback Steakhouse location at random along the coast and designate it sovereign territory.

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2 hours ago, InkaUtexas said:

Fuck yeah. Yeah, they are damn good allies.

And Iraq, and in certain places in Africa. Plus they keep the natives in the South Pacific chill, thus protecting critical locations like Bali and Giligan's Island. 

And they fought with us in that shitshow in Vietnam.

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4 minutes ago, Parliament said:

And they fought with us in that shitshow in Vietnam.

Yep, they had a recon team alongside my Dad's Mike Force. He only has praise for them. I watched the ASAS operate in Afghanistan. Dudes were chill, professional and fun to be around. 

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5 hours ago, atomheartbevo said:

Can the US or Canada give Australia 15-20 acres of land on the Atlantic coast, so they can join NATO?  They went into Afghanistan with us, they are our closest Allie’s in the Pacific….

I'd offer them the entirety of Florida, but I don't want to insult them.

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4 hours ago, BamaATL said:

Oh boy

 

This is rage inducing for me... This poor idiot has no idea where he is, who he is fighting, what the goal is or even a basic grasp of simply military concepts or terms..

The Ukrainian interviewing him is just absolutely at end because of how do you reason with that? How do you show them the folly of their ways? He is interviewing a guy that from day one was determined as cannon fodder and the poor guy has no clue that in the eyes of Russia he is completely expendable. The lack of basic knowledge, even simple ideas about the world is disturbing.  How can he make it to the front and not at least know the basic military objective of the operation is taking Kyiv?

So he did 9 years of remedial school, gets ordered to go to the front, has no idea where he is, what the objectives are, any basic concepts of strategy and then put on the front.. I guess the grand Russian strategic view is that he either he gets killed or he gets captured and is a drain on the Ukrainian system, but until then they can use the overall numbers as a way to slow down the Ukrainian advance... 

When you have one side flooding the battlefield the dregs of their society what recourse do you have but the wholesale slaughter of fools?

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Great investigative work on intra-EU GRU operations tacitly facilitated by Budapest. And some public acknowledgment that Russia’s massive war memorial/war graves project is cover for intelligence work. 
 

https://vsquare.org/anton-goriev-spy-russia-hungary-slovakia-embassy/

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In June 2021 in a Bratislava supermarket parking lot, a spy working for Russia’s military intelligence, the GRU, hit a Slovak woman with his car. The 51-year-old woman was taken to hospital with serious injuries. However, unlike some other incidents in previous years, this was far from an elaborate assassination attempt from the Russian spy agency, which is known for its deadly attacks on European soil.

But this undercover GRU agent, a round-faced, short-haired man in his late 30s posing as a diplomat at the Russian Embassy in Bratislava, was in fact simply driving drunk. The man was driving his Volkswagen uncontrollably in the parking lot and on the sidewalk, and he hit the woman in said parking lot while she was loading her groceries, according to Slovak media reportson the incident.

In the beginning, Slovak police did not reveal the man’s identity, only stating that they couldn’t prosecute him in accordance with the Vienna Convention. Later, however, media reports identified the diplomat as Anton Goriev, also revealing that he refused a breathalyzer test, left the scene, and apologized the next day to the family of the woman he hit.

Goriev got away with drunk driving—but not with espionage. 

A few months later, in the spring of 2022, Anton Goriev was among the dozens of Russian diplomats officially expelled from Slovakia for espionage, VSquare and Slovak partner ICJK.sk have found based on our examination of Slovak foreign ministry documents.

 

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11 hours ago, Neonmoon said:

There’s a reason they are loyal. In 1942, Australia called England and asked for protection from Japan. England said no can do. Second call was to USA. We sent the Pacific Fleet 

After VE day the British wanted to help out the Americans in the Pacific...  You might be able to speculate at their reason for doing so.  England lost her colonies and wanted to show the flag / maintain a strong presence or perhaps it was just wanting to be good allies.  The Americans didn't want them there, most probably, for geo-political reasons but also because we didn't want them to slow us down. 

If you have the time these videos are interesting.  Notice how the British attitude changes once they got out into the Pacific theatre with their "fleet"

Also had no idea the Brits flew Corsairs...  

 

 

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7 hours ago, FartingMonk said:

I apologize to all for shitting on this thread last night.  I went and won about 5k at the casino and then proceeded to go to a bar.  I may have been a bit over served.  

So too much alcohol and you start parroting Russian talking points, but the rest of the time when you’re sober you’re just fine, right? Uh huh. 

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We value our allies. We value our shared security. And we always appreciate an open conversation.
Ukraine will be represented at the NATO summit in Vilnius. Because it is about respect.

But Ukraine also deserves respect. Now, on the way to Vilnius, we received signals that certain wording is being discussed without Ukraine.

And I would like to emphasize that this wording is about the invitation to become NATO member, not about Ukraine's membership.

It’s unprecedented and absurd when time frame is not set neither for the invitation nor for Ukraine's membership. While at the same time vague wording about "conditions" is added even for inviting Ukraine.

It seems there is no readiness neither to invite Ukraine to NATO nor to make it a member of the Alliance.

This means that a window of opportunity is being left to bargain Ukraine's membership in NATO in negotiations with Russia. And for Russia, this means motivation to continue its terror.

Uncertainty is weakness. And I will openly discuss this at the summit. 

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3 hours ago, Schulz2.0 said:

 

Russian lieutenant general Oleg Tsokov was reportedly killed near temporarily occupied Berdiansk - advisor to Mariupol mayor Petro Andriushchenko.

Tsokov was under sanctions of the EU, Great Britain and New Zealand.

Since August 2022 he commanded the 144th motorized rifle division of the 20th combined arms army of the Russian Federation.  He received the rank of lieutenant general in 2023.  In addition to the full-scale invasion of Ukraine, he took part in two Chechen wars and the war in Syria.

Russia hasn't confirmed this information. 

Some accounts I'm not familiar with are saying he and other officers were staying at a hotel and that nothing remains of the hotel.

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Well-written, and not overly long, piece about Ukrainians living in the trenches that Russians had dug. Some good photos too.

Dirty Socks and Rotting Bodies: What Russians Left Behind in the Trenches
As Ukrainian troops inch forward in the counteroffensive, they are occupying positions abandoned by enemy troops. Says one: “It’s not very pleasant.”

https://archive.is/vykGf#selection-445.0-449.149

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2 hours ago, locodos said:

After VE day the British wanted to help out the Americans in the Pacific...  You might be able to speculate at their reason for doing so.  England lost her colonies and wanted to show the flag / maintain a strong presence or perhaps it was just wanting to be good allies.  The Americans didn't want them there, most probably, for geo-political reasons but also because we didn't want them to slow us down. 

If you have the time these videos are interesting.  Notice how the British attitude changes once they got out into the Pacific theatre with their "fleet"

Also had no idea the Brits flew Corsairs...  

 

 

The US Navy had just about given up on the Corsair as a carrier aircraft because the low angle forward visibility was so poor that it was very difficult to land on a carrier. It was the Brits that developed the low angle turning approach that allowed the pilot to maintain visual contact with the carrier until the last second. 

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2 hours ago, locodos said:

After VE day the British wanted to help out the Americans in the Pacific...  You might be able to speculate at their reason for doing so.  England lost her colonies and wanted to show the flag / maintain a strong presence or perhaps it was just wanting to be good allies.  The Americans didn't want them there, most probably, for geo-political reasons but also because we didn't want them to slow us down. 

If you have the time these videos are interesting.  Notice how the British attitude changes once they got out into the Pacific theatre with their "fleet"

Also had no idea the Brits flew Corsairs...  

 

 

After the fall of Singapore it was going to be extremely difficult if not impossible for the Brits to operate in the Southwest Pacific. They had to retreat to the east and 1942 was dire times in Europe and for their capacity to fight on closer to home. The Royal Navy had not been perfecting replenishment at sea like we had on the assumption that they’d have the friendly bases of their empire close by. 
 

They didn’t have the oilers, they didn’t have the radius on their own ships, and they didn’t have the shipping capacity to keep a fleet supplied in the vastness of the Pacific. A lot of what we frame as decisions is party a decision but mostly a response to reality and rational choices. The Australians are understandably upset, and for sure the UK made awful decisions and assumptions up to and through the fall of Singapore dating back to before the war, and badly misused a lot of Aussie troops. But in 1942-43 the UK didn’t have the choice to both fight in the Southwest Pacific and keep the Home Islands safe and supplied. 

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7 hours ago, Laxtonto said:

This is rage inducing for me... This poor idiot has no idea where he is, who he is fighting, what the goal is or even a basic grasp of simply military concepts or terms..

The Ukrainian interviewing him is just absolutely at end because of how do you reason with that? How do you show them the folly of their ways? He is interviewing a guy that from day one was determined as cannon fodder and the poor guy has no clue that in the eyes of Russia he is completely expendable. The lack of basic knowledge, even simple ideas about the world is disturbing.  How can he make it to the front and not at least know the basic military objective of the operation is taking Kyiv?

So he did 9 years of remedial school, gets ordered to go to the front, has no idea where he is, what the objectives are, any basic concepts of strategy and then put on the front.. I guess the grand Russian strategic view is that he either he gets killed or he gets captured and is a drain on the Ukrainian system, but until then they can use the overall numbers as a way to slow down the Ukrainian advance... 

When you have one side flooding the battlefield the dregs of their society what recourse do you have but the wholesale slaughter of fools?

Education systems are important if one wants to create an advanced society, but with that, they will have expectations on getting returns from their contributions to that society.   If one wants a group of loyal mentally weak cannon fodder to ignore the fleecing they are doing to them and their offspring, then the goal would be to create manufactured distractions while undermining education so one could remain in perpetual power.

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