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52 minutes ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Whatever.   They've known what he is at every step along the way.  That will not change because of proof. They'll blame Biden and it will, somehow,  work. 

The only reason I could see them bailing on Trump is when they decide he is toxic for them at the polls and they will face reelection trouble.  Last Tuesday started to show that but maybe this pushes them over the edge.

 

 

 


 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

nah, who am I kidding, they’re a cult

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Shades of "Soviet solider at the Katyn Forest Massacre implored his colleagues to slow down on the killing, they're running low on ammo, so he's a hero."
Fucking hell.  "I was aware of massive child sexual abuse, but hey, I asked the abuser to stop" is pretty much the perfect "I'm the good guy" moral flex for this wretched era.  It will work.

Putin STOP!
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Fox News online has two articles a few scrolls down on the main page… ones about prince andrew and the other is “Clinton ex cabinet member” exchanged emails with JE post conviction. 
 

wsj has a couple of articles WAY far down, just saying democrats released emails that mention trump. And about discharge petition getting its signatures. 

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1 hour ago, DigglerontheHoof said:

Whatever.   They've known what he is at every step along the way.  That will not change because of proof. They'll blame Biden and it will, somehow,  work. 

Idk, this is a pretty good clusterfuck. Probably gonna have to break out Obama for this one...maybe throw in the globalists, as well. 

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33 minutes ago, bluto said:

Fox News online has two articles a few scrolls down on the main page… ones about prince andrew and the other is “Clinton ex cabinet member” exchanged emails with JE post conviction. 
 

wsj has a couple of articles WAY far down, just saying democrats released emails that mention trump. And about discharge petition getting its signatures. 

They are trying to say Giuffre denied it under oath. No one is going to believe an Esptein whore/hooker statements. Obviously has no credibility.  What will be damning is when the House releases all of Giuffres texts/emails from those years where she brags/details about hooking up with Trump and the others to her friends, girlfriends, Maxwell, etc…

Her discovery file (and the other women who fucked Trump) is going to get good.

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32 minutes ago, LateAughtsHorn said:

one...maybe throw in the globalists, as well. 

The great thing about cognitive dissonance is you can blow right through a sex trafficker with extortion material on Trump acting as a consultant to Putin and still maintain your anti-globalist stance. 

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Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

I think because it is the only piece of leverage they've had over him. I think they thought that could bring trump to heel but they seemed to have forgotten that he actually had no shame, and this term is hyperspeed plaid ludicrous speed shit so you've even got the true believers mtg and boebert turning on him. 

 

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4 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

just to reinforce this take:

 

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10 minutes ago, Lamar said:

They are trying to say Giuffre denied it under oath. No one is going to believe an Esptein whore/hooker statements. Obviously has no credibility.  What will be damning is when the House releases all of Giuffres texts/emails from those years where she brags/details about hooking up with Trump and the others to her friends, girlfriends, Maxwell, etc…

Her discovery file (and the other women who fucked Trump) is going to get good.

Just because I don’t know their ages. Were they minors when they and Trump had sex? I mean Giuffre just wrote a book prior to her suicide. Did she reference Trump raping her in it? I know Prince Andrew was directly called out as a rapist by her.

I want there to be something here to get Trump jailed/impeached I just don’t know how if there is a legit smoking gun that it wasn’t leaked prior to the election. Think about the Russia doc leaked during his run vs Hillary, the other leaks from FBI as well yet nothing showing him raping a minor ever got leaked?

I am worried that we will get a lot of “yep Trump is gross” but wasn’t directly part of sex trafficking/rape stuff to come out which after all of his other sexual assault/grab them by the pussy actions result in nada. 
 

Fuck him. 

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2 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

I think the names might be of foreign leaders, allies, foes, Bilderbergs, etc,,, domino effect might cause problems. 
 

Or, it could be just damage control. 

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1 minute ago, BrazilHorn said:

Just because I don’t know their ages. Were they minors when they and Trump had sex? I mean Giuffre just wrote a book prior to her suicide. Did she reference Trump raping her in it? I know Prince Andrew was directly called out as a rapist by her.

I’m not sure what she said in her book, but no one is going to believe her over Epstein. Her deposition/testimony is going to get shot to hell when her email/texts get dropped to the media. 

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1 minute ago, Lamar said:

I’m not sure what she said in her book, but no one is going to believe her over Epstein. Her deposition/testimony is going to get shot to hell when her email/texts get dropped to the media. 

I'm curious why you say that. I'm missing something. Why would those emails/ texts not be in discovery for her deposition/ testimony, and be used by opposing counsel to shoot it to hell? 

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1 hour ago, Pancho said:

 

Jesus, you know you're a creepy piece of shit when they're okay coming to a sex trafficker's house as long as you're not there.

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21 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

He's freaked out because there might be something in there about his tiny mushroom dick or just being the weird, creepy guy in the corner at the orgy. There won't be anything that leads to removal from office or criminal consequences. 

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9 minutes ago, hayden_horn said:

I'm curious why you say that. I'm missing something. Why would those emails/ texts not be in discovery for her deposition/ testimony, and be used by opposing counsel to shoot it to hell? 

You honestly don't think these corrupt motherfuckers aren't sitting on her emails/texts, etc... or the other umpteen victims?  There is 100% emails/texts where the women are talking about who they were with, when, and what all they did, how much they were paid for what they did, etc...  Giuffre obviously is a liar based on what Epstein has said in his emails to Maxwell, news reporters, etc...

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46 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

 

Multiple agencies with multiple copies, along with what the  counsel had.  Kash could clean up his copy, but then when someone else produces something Kash didn't...

 

 

 

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Multiple agencies with multiple copies, along with what the defense counsel had.  Kash could clean up his copy, but then when someone else produces something Kash didn't...

 

 

 

… then the non fbi copy will just be deemed a hoax (is how that post should have ended)

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So at what point in a normal administration would Trump resign from office (assuming what’s in there is the kind of stuff we think is probably in there)? After the vote? After the release of the files? Or already.

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5 minutes ago, Francisco 2.0 said:

 

Multiple agencies with multiple copies, along with what the  counsel had.  Kash could clean up his copy, but then when someone else produces something Kash didn't...

 

 

 

There needs to be some serious legal reform in this country.  Whatever the government has for evidence, depositions, emails, discovery, photos, etc... should also be in the hands of the defendant lawyers and the victims lawyers.  It total bullshit that the government has all of this information that the other parties do not get to see.

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56 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Whatever Dotard is so freaked about, enough to drag Boobert into the Situation Room with the Attorney General and FBI Director (Jesus, still can’t believe that one happened)…. How is whatever is in there that is so damaging still in existence? These people will obviously do whatever they are told. Why hasn’t anything that damaging for Trump not yet been taken care of?

Keep in mind, Trump is so pathologically narcissistic that he will mark up a hurricane map rather than admit that he was wrong.  He's never going to concede anything that makes him look bad. 

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Im not that up on this whole scandal but even if Giuffre never mentioned Trump and perhaps Trump never met her, but aren’t there dozens or more victims? It would stand to reason that Epstein wouldn’t have each of his personal victims meet high level men but is the idea that she was the only victim passed around these men? I assumed the opposite.

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1 minute ago, Nice Guy Eddie said:

Im not that up on this whole scandal but even if Giuffre never mentioned Trump and perhaps Trump never met her, but aren’t there dozens or more victims? It would stand to reason that Epstein wouldn’t have each of his personal victims meet high level men but is the idea that she was the only victim passed around these men? I assumed the opposite.

There's so much information provided telephone game style, it's hard to keep up with what's "real". Here's Giuffre's 2016 deposition for a little light reading.

https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/7010864-Virginia-Giuffre-Maxwell-Deposition/

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the relevant part if you don't want to click through:

Spoiler

On the menu today: This is one of those days where I’m likely to get accused of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” by those in the MAGA camp, even though I’m writing about President Trump breaking his campaign promises to the MAGA camp. Just like Republicans are considered at fault for noticing Democratic misdeeds — “pounce!” — you and I will be at fault for noticing that President Trump is not releasing the remaining Epstein files, wants to maintain or slightly increase the current number of Chinese students at U.S. universities, and is now arguing that America needs H1-B visas because he believes Americans cannot perform the jobs that need to be done.

You can blame the Democrats, or the media, or me, but a lot of days, the person who creates the most problems for Donald Trump is . . . Donald Trump.

Trump’s Continuing Epstein Evasion

There is a petition in the U.S. House of Representatives to consider and pass a resolution declaring that the Department of Justice “must publicly disclose all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials in its possession that relate to Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell.” That petition now has 218 signatures, and the House will vote on it next week. One of the lawmakers that signed the petition is Lauren Boebert, a Colorado Republican who is usually a staunch supporter of the president and is known for her, er, theatrics.

On Wednesday, the White House invited Boebert to a meeting in the White House Situation Room with Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel to discuss her demand to release the files. This was confirmed by White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt in the press briefing yesterday:

Q: In transparency, Karoline, why are White House officials then meeting with Representative Boebert in an effort to try and get her to not sign this petition calling for the release of the files?

Leavitt: Doesn’t it show transparency that members of the Trump administration are willing to brief members of Congress whenever they please? Doesn’t that show our level of transparency? Doesn’t that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns? That is the — that’s a defining factor of transparency, having discussions — having discussions with members of Congress about various issues. And I’m not going to detail conversations that took place in the Situation Room in the press briefing room.

I do not know what is in the Justice Department’s remaining unreleased files. But I do know that the White House briefing a GOP member of Congress about those files in the Situation Room makes it look like there’s something enormously consequential in those files.

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And on Truth Social, the president keeps furiously insisting that the request for public disclosure of those files is part of “the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax.” At least twice on the campaign trail in 2024, Trump was asked about releasing any information the government had about Epstein and indicated that he would. And Vice President JD Vance, in an interview with podcast host Theo Von on October 22, 2024, said: “Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list. That is an important thing. We can go down that rabbit hole.”

The position of the White House is that President Trump never did anything wrong, and there is nothing in the remaining Epstein documents that would incriminate him or make him look bad, and that the remaining documents should not in any way, shape, or form be released.

I’m sorry — not only does that not add up, but that position makes the president look guilty as sin of doing something he doesn’t want the public to know about.

 

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The whole pedophile thing is obviously the worst thing about him, but it makes him even shittier that his punctuation is fucking garbage.  Two sequential commas, Jeff?  Followed by space, comma, space?  Really.. 

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10 minutes ago, The Dog said:

the relevant part if you don't want to click through:

  Hide contents

On the menu today: This is one of those days where I’m likely to get accused of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” by those in the MAGA camp, even though I’m writing about President Trump breaking his campaign promises to the MAGA camp. Just like Republicans are considered at fault for noticing Democratic misdeeds — “pounce!” — you and I will be at fault for noticing that President Trump is not releasing the remaining Epstein files, wants to maintain or slightly increase the current number of Chinese students at U.S. universities, and is now arguing that America needs H1-B visas because he believes Americans cannot perform the jobs that need to be done.

You can blame the Democrats, or the media, or me, but a lot of days, the person who creates the most problems for Donald Trump is . . . Donald Trump.

Trump’s Continuing Epstein Evasion

There is a petition in the U.S. House of Representatives to consider and pass a resolution declaring that the Department of Justice “must publicly disclose all unclassified records, documents, communications, and investigative materials in its possession that relate to Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell.” That petition now has 218 signatures, and the House will vote on it next week. One of the lawmakers that signed the petition is Lauren Boebert, a Colorado Republican who is usually a staunch supporter of the president and is known for her, er, theatrics.

On Wednesday, the White House invited Boebert to a meeting in the White House Situation Room with Attorney General Pam Bondi and FBI Director Kash Patel to discuss her demand to release the files. This was confirmed by White House Press Secretary Karoline Leavitt in the press briefing yesterday:

Q: In transparency, Karoline, why are White House officials then meeting with Representative Boebert in an effort to try and get her to not sign this petition calling for the release of the files?

Leavitt: Doesn’t it show transparency that members of the Trump administration are willing to brief members of Congress whenever they please? Doesn’t that show our level of transparency? Doesn’t that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns? That is the — that’s a defining factor of transparency, having discussions — having discussions with members of Congress about various issues. And I’m not going to detail conversations that took place in the Situation Room in the press briefing room.

I do not know what is in the Justice Department’s remaining unreleased files. But I do know that the White House briefing a GOP member of Congress about those files in the Situation Room makes it look like there’s something enormously consequential in those files.

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The Military’s Recruiting Surge

THE EDITORS

The Malevolent Brilliance of Candace Owens

RICH LOWRY

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And on Truth Social, the president keeps furiously insisting that the request for public disclosure of those files is part of “the Jeffrey Epstein Hoax.” At least twice on the campaign trail in 2024, Trump was asked about releasing any information the government had about Epstein and indicated that he would. And Vice President JD Vance, in an interview with podcast host Theo Von on October 22, 2024, said: “Seriously, we need to release the Epstein list. That is an important thing. We can go down that rabbit hole.”

The position of the White House is that President Trump never did anything wrong, and there is nothing in the remaining Epstein documents that would incriminate him or make him look bad, and that the remaining documents should not in any way, shape, or form be released.

I’m sorry — not only does that not add up, but that position makes the president look guilty as sin of doing something he doesn’t want the public to know about.

 

They have created an entire ecosystem where victimhood is the main currency. This crybaby starts this part off by preemptively crying about how he is picked on every time he points out something wrong the Democrats did or Trump did or anyone did. HE IS CRYING ABOUT BEING CALLED OUT WHEN HE CALLS PEOPLE OUT. 

Christ almighty these fucking infants. 

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Just now, Huckleberry said:

They have created an entire ecosystem where victimhood is the main currency. This crybaby starts this part off by preemptively crying about how he is picked on every time he points out something wrong the Democrats did or Trump did it anyone did. HE IS CRYING ABOUT BEING CALLED OUT WHEN HE CALLS PEOPLE OUT. 

Christ almighty these fucking infants. 

The entire way that Republican men act pretty much 100% of the time is entirely unbecoming of any grown man.

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12 minutes ago, Todd Gack said:

The whole pedophile thing is obviously the worst thing about him, but it makes him even shittier that his punctuation is fucking garbage.  Two sequential commas, Jeff?  Followed by space, comma, space?  Really.. 

there isn't a single redeeming quality about him.  not one.  yet somehow millions of people idolize him.  it will never not be shocking to me.

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1 minute ago, 4th&Five said:

there isn't a single redeeming quality about him.  not one.  yet somehow millions of people idolize him.  it will never not be shocking to me.

A complete moral failure in society that evidently was decades in the making. 

 

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5 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

there isn't a single redeeming quality about him.  not one.  yet somehow millions of people idolize him.  it will never not be shocking to me.

At least he tells the truth unlike our elected officials.

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33 minutes ago, Huckleberry said:

Christ almighty these fucking infants. 

Haven’t you heard? The infants have already been ran off, amiright, @realgreggym
 

32 minutes ago, 4th&Five said:

there isn't a single redeeming quality about him.  not one.  yet somehow millions of people idolize him.  it will never not be shocking to me.

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Ok, so what's next? If he doesn't want the other files released, they won't be released, period. Mike Johnson can't stop the vote, but I don't even know what the vote is for, can Congress literally just say to release everything and it happens? Would some of the republicans who voted this week to hold a vote then vote to not release them? Are the files still confidential litigation materials? Could dotard just designate them as classfied and tell his dipshit followers that he's doing it for national security to avoid distractions even though they totally exonerate him? The last part is what I suspect will ultimately happen. If they are released there's no way they didn't fuck with them to remove anything incriminating on dear leader, right?

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From one of the MAGA guys I work with: "The reason he doesn't want to release the Epstein files is because Epstein was a Mossad agent." I asked what about the recently released files that implicated Trump. "I haven't seen them. I don't believe he raped any kids. Thats just your liberal confirmation bias."

This guy is a big "release the files" guy. But he'll never admit Trump was involved and fucked underage girls. Cult.

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From one of the MAGA guys I work with: "The reason he doesn't want to release the Epstein files is because Epstein was a Mossad agent." I asked what about the recently released files that implicated Trump. "I haven't seen them. I don't believe he raped any kids. Thats just your liberal confirmation bias."
This guy is a big "release the files" guy. But he'll never admit Trump was involved and fucked underage girls. Cult.

Is his name Mike Johnson?
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19 minutes ago, hookem2010 said:

That stuff was all done in an official capacity as future president. So immunity

It'll be fantastic for the history of our republic to have an opinion from the U.S. Supreme Court talking about a President involved in pedophilia and sex trafficking.  Right up there with Brown v. Board of Education.

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