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On 5/1/2025 at 2:57 PM, Dahobbs said:

I don't think anyone disagrees that Supreme Court could come out with a totally different answer due to Calvinball. But that has nothing to do with legitimate legal analysis, so I'm unclear on what exactly you're scolding  @wildcat09 for. Y'all agree on the clear answer. Y'all agree that the Court could go another way just because. Where's the beef?

Because he accuses me of devil's advocacy for explaining how the argument goes.

To me, if you don't understand the problems and illegitimacies in the argument/decision and just criticize the decision, you're pissing in the wind.  

I mean, you're pissing in the wind either way, but it's a real megasquirt in a gale.

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Great episode of On Point from Friday, covering the history and context of birthright citizenship and "subject to the jurisdiction thereof." It's a 45-minute-long interview/conversation with Heather Cox Richardson (full transcript is found in the link below as well).

I'd say anyone who doubts the intent of the 14th Amendment as we've commonly interpreted (until recently) absolutely should find the time to listen. The historical context that she outlines is unambiguous and affirms that, yes, we have indeed been correct that the way we view it today is EXACTLY how it was intended, as written, in the 1860s.

https://www.wbur.org/onpoint/2025/05/02/birthright-citizenship-trump-history-heather-cox-richardson

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Well, the Court may do away with nationwide injunctions to allow Trump’s patently unconstitutional directives and actions to go into effect - in this case an undoing of birthright citizenship. If a dem ever controls the White House, I bet they reverse course super quickly 

One of the last weapons we had against unconstitutional acts is likely going to be taken away. It’s fitting that Roberts will kill our constitutional order

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18 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Well, the Court may do away with nationwide injunctions to allow Trump’s patently unconstitutional directives and actions to go into effect - in this case an undoing of birthright citizenship. If a dem ever controls the White House, I bet they reverse course super quickly 

One of the last weapons we had against unconstitutional acts is likely going to be taken away. It’s fitting that Roberts will kill our constitutional order*

* Unless that judge is Judge Kacsmaryk in Amarillo, in which case all of his rulings have full nation-wide effect for.....reasons.

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45 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

Well, the Court may do away with nationwide injunctions to allow Trump’s patently unconstitutional directives and actions to go into effect - in this case an undoing of birthright citizenship. If a dem ever controls the White House, I bet they reverse course super quickly 

One of the last weapons we had against unconstitutional acts is likely going to be taken away. It’s fitting that Roberts will kill our constitutional order

 

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Am I the only one who's finding it increasingly easier to get a hard-on for Amy Coney Barrett?

No. And it’s about time somebody finally said it.
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1 minute ago, Nivek said:


Why do you use the Nazi social media platform?

1) Because there’s more there

2) Because retreat is not attack

No offense,  but lefties need to stop withdrawing from spaces they disapprove of. It’s not just an expression of privilege and cultural snobbery, it’s also a recipe to lose often. 

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1 hour ago, South Austin said:

Am I the only one who's finding it increasingly easier to get a hard-on for Amy Coney Barrett?

Wear a rubber, dude. You know she's not having an abortion. 

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7 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

1) Because there’s more there

2) Because retreat is not attack

No offense,  but lefties need to stop withdrawing from spaces they disapprove of. It’s not just an expression of privilege and cultural snobbery, it’s also a recipe to lose often. 

Withdrawing from twitter wasn't about disapproval. It was recognition that it wasn't an effective platform any longer (ignoring for this conversation that it's just a shitty user experience now). When Elon can program the algorithm to automatically disappear any liberal tweets that start getting too much attention, you gotta find a new battleground.

On the attack/retreat analogy, Washington pretty much won the American revolution by being very good at retreating. 

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30 minutes ago, wildcat09 said:

She's always been sneaky-hot. Don't let that or her relative decency (relative to Sam Alito) fool you into thinking she doesn't suck, though. 

That's a good thing, isn't it?  

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53 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

lefties need to stop withdrawing from spaces they disapprove of.

This reads to me like you’re lecturing “you shouldn’t leave that bar bc some Nazis showed up.” Nah, man. I’m not saving humanity with my tweets. Elon can have his circle jerk and I can better manage my own social media diet. 

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7 minutes ago, Pig Bellmont said:

This reads to me like you’re lecturing “you shouldn’t leave that bar bc some Nazis showed up.” Nah, man. I’m not saving humanity with my tweets. Elon can have his circle jerk and I can better manage my own social media diet. 

No. Twitter is not a bar, and I am lecturing.
Even in its current state, twitter is the world’s most important and influential attention gathering platform, and attention is the currency of politics in 2025. We withdraw at our peril, for multiple reasons. 

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No. Twitter is not a bar, and I am lecturing.
Even in its current state, twitter is the world’s most important and influential attention gathering platform, and attention is the currency of politics in 2025. We withdraw at our peril, for multiple reasons. 

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one, chief. It’s a cesspool of disinformation and propaganda and its chatbot is spewing white apartheid drivel now.

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1 hour ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No. Twitter is not a bar, and I am lecturing.
Even in its current state, twitter is the world’s most important and influential attention gathering platform, and attention is the currency of politics in 2025. We withdraw at our peril, for multiple reasons. 

You're arguing that we should go try and win all our money back at the triple zero roulette wheel. Twitter is juicing conservative extremism, and you're gonna be bringing piss to a shit fight if you think you'll be anything more than the whipping boy on those platforms.

Attention is the currency, and brother, not much aside from amygdala response gets the attention of chuds. Nothing matters until it affects them. Telling them how bad things are only encourages their actions to drag the bar lower.

You're not gonna win with LOGIC and FACTS when they don't give a flying fuck about those things.

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8 minutes ago, royiv said:

Gonna have to disagree with you on that one, chief. It’s a cesspool of disinformation and propaganda and its chatbot is spewing white apartheid drivel now.

And then getting called out, and then hilariously outing itself. 

7 minutes ago, Captainant said:

Attention is the currency, and brother, not much aside from amygdala response gets the attention of chuds.

It doesn’t have to. The problem with leftists is that you only talk to yourselves and act offended when the mostly apolitical majority doesn’t come to you. And that’s who the left is abandoning on Twitter.  Never mind the fact that once you leave you don’t actually see the discourse anymore (as demonstrated above).

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1 minute ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

It doesn’t have to. The problem with leftists is that you only talk to yourselves and act offended when the mostly apolitical majority doesn’t come to you. And that’s who the left is abandoning on Twitter.  Never mind the fact that once you leave you don’t actually see the discourse anymore (as demonstrated above).

The "apolitical majority" is the the equivalent to the citizenry of Weimar Germany while Hitler was rising to power. Being """apolitical""" is extremely political in itself. It leads to leaders Blacklab reflexively suppressing reporting on repressive actions by the government. 

Defending their farcical apolitical stance is giving them permission to not think critically. Fuck that noise, they need to wake up and smell the ashes of democracy that THEIR FUCKING VOTES AND INACTION delivered to us all.

 

There's no discourse because what's there to discuss? Just HOW evil the trump administration is? How far are they lying? Got any deck chairs you're looking to rearrange on the Titanic?

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11 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

And then getting called out, and then hilariously outing itself. 

Do you honestly believe that had any impact on the people on twitter that you think need to be reached? I don’t.

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2 hours ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

No. Twitter is not a bar, and I am lecturing.
Even in its current state, twitter is the world’s most important and influential attention gathering platform, and attention is the currency of politics in 2025. We withdraw at our peril, for multiple reasons. 

I get that it is still a high usage platform around the world and perhaps there is some merit in not ignoring it altogether. I personally have never had an account on there because to me it seemed like something that would not be an enjoyable experience to use it.

I do agree that attention is the main currency in politics. I can keep up with AOC on Instagram when she does a live chat. Crockett does them as well. I appreciate their candor and honesty and I feel they make effective use of social media in a good way. There are others as well, but those are just a couple of examples of Democrats who understand how to reach their constituents and other like-minded people.

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49 minutes ago, Bozo_Casanova said:

And then getting called out, and then hilariously outing itself. 

It doesn’t have to. The problem with leftists is that you only talk to yourselves and act offended when the mostly apolitical majority doesn’t come to you. And that’s who the left is abandoning on Twitter.  Never mind the fact that once you leave you don’t actually see the discourse anymore (as demonstrated above).

The problem isn't attention.  It's language.  As in, foreign language.

Non-MAGA world speaks a language that includes things like rational connections, evidence-based reasoning, shit like that.  Might as well be speaking a dead dialect of Tagalog to MAGAs, who speak a language of insane inflammatory lies and lizard-brain trigger words.

Reality: trans people and trans athletes are a non-issue, and have no impact on your life.

MAGA: TRANS SATANISTS HAVE TAKEN OVER OUR SCHOOLS AND ARE EATING THE DOGS AND EATING THE CATS AND FORCING EVERY CHILD TO CHANGE GENDERS AND THE HUMAN RACE JUST WENT EXTINCT!

In shorter form, "A lie gets halfway around the world before truth puts on its boots."

Reaching those people requires VASTLY more than "getting their attention." It involves telling them superior, more inflammatory lies than our opponents are telling them.

DONALD TRUMP SUCKED XI'S DICK AT THEIR LAST MEETING.  HE TOOK A SECRET BRIEFCASE FULL OF 1 TRILLION DOLLARS, PROMISING TO DESTROY OUR ECONOMY.  AND THE NEXT DAY, HE ANNOUNCED TARIFFS THAT HURT THE US MORE THAN THEY HURT CHINA.  AND HE ALSO SENT A SECRET MESSAGE TO JOE BIDEN SAYING "WE DID IT!"

Seriously.  We just need an "insane MAGA lie generator" running 24/7, to see what sticks.

 



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